The gospel

[yuksel]

The Gospels

More emphatically and frequently than any other Prophet, Prophet Jesus gave good tidings of Muhammad. In the Gospel of John, Jesus promises his arrival using several names: But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Paraklit will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment (John, 16:7-8).

In these verses, Prophet Muhammad is referred to as the Paraklit. This Greek word means "the Distinguisher between Truth and Falsehood." Christian interpreters have given it various meanings, such as Counselor (Gideons International), Helper (American Bible Society), or Comforter (the Company of the Holy Bible), and claim that it refers to the Holy Spirit. However, they have never been able to establish whether the Holy Spirit came down after Jesus and did what Jesus said it would do.

If, according to Christians, the Holy Spirit is Archangel Gabriel, he came many times to Prophet Muhammad to bring Divine Revelations. Further, Jesus mentioned and predicted the Paraklit with other names but the same function, as seen below:

When Paraklit comes—the Spirit of truth—who comes from the Father, he will testify about me. (John 15:26)

I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will bring glory to me by taking what is mine and making it known to you. (John 16:12–14)

I will not speak with you much longer, for the Prince of this world is coming. And I posses nothing of him. (John 14:30)

Who has come after Jesus other than Prophet Muhammad, as the Comforter who has comforted human beings against their fear of death, worries of the future, and spiritual ailments? As the Helper, who has helped humanity attain real peace and happiness in both worlds? As the Prince of the world, who has ruled almost half the world for fourteen centuries and has become the beloved of billions? As the Spirit of truth, who has testified to Jesus, brought glory to him by declaring his Prophethood against the Jews' denial and the Christians' false deification, and restoring his religion to its pristine purity through the Book revealed to him?

What shortcomings do Western Christians attribute to Prophet Muhammad, in contrast to Jesus and other Prophets, that, while almost all Middle Eastern Christians believed in him and became Muslim within a few decades of his death, they persist in denying him?

Mawlana Jalal al-Din al-Rumi, a great Sufi saint, expresses in the following stanza the good tidings of Prophet Muhammad found in the Gospel:

In the Gospel Mustafa is mentioned with his attributes. In him is the mystery of all the Prophets; he is the bringer of happiness. The Gospel mentions him with his external form and features, and also with his personal virtues and Prophetic qualities.

The Old and New Testaments, despite the questionable authenticity of their current versions, still contain references to Prophet Muhammad. We have quoted some of these. If, one day, the original copies or the least altered copies of the Torah and the Gospel are discovered, they will contain explicit references to the last Messenger. This may be deduced from the Traditions that say Christianity will be purified of its borrowed elements.

[Supreme]

Christians everywhere are in consensus that Jesus is talking about the Holy Spirit.

[mkh4JC]

Not only that but Jesus said the Comforter would live inside of you as a Christian.

'And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him; but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.' St John 14: 16-17.

[MuslimCONVERT]

Paraclete=Who?


There has been much confusion over these verses, and who/what the Paraclete is, although the traditionally accepted view today is that these verses refer to the Holy Spirit. However it is important to note, that this verse is rather ambiguous, and many Christian historians make an interesting note. From The Anchor Bible, Doubleday & Company, Inc, Volume 29A, p. 1135 we read the following very interesting note: "…scholars like Spitta, Delafosse, Windisch, Sasse, Bultmann, and Betz have doubted whether this identification is true to the original picture and have suggested that the Paraclete was once an independent salvific figure, later confused with the Holy Spirit."

So this gets us thinking. A lot of early Christians possibly did NOT interpret this to be a Spirit. Very interesting! But, the plot thickens! Let us take another glance at the word "Paraclete."

Paraclete comes from the Greek Root word Parakletos. From this same root word comes it's derivitive, Periklytos, which means, "Praised one." Does anyone know what the Arabic word for "Praised one" is? If you guessed "Muhammad" you are right!

Now, sometimes Paraclete is translated as "Intercessor" or "Consoler." -this is in fact a misunderstanding of early translators, because the Greek word for intercessor is Paraqalon, which, although similar and from the same root, is not the word used in the Greek text.

When we take into account that the gospel was translated from Aramaic (A Semetic language similar to Arabic and Hebrew) INTO Greek, we see that it is not entirely unbelievable that this is quite likely a place where, in his original language Jesus Prophesied the coming of Muhammad (saas) by name.

Now, I think that every person in the Western world has probably watched the Passion of the Christ, the Mel Gibson film. Well, whats interesting about that film is, to make it more true to the time, Mel Gibson had the actor who played Jesus speak in Syrio-Aramaic, a language very close to the Aramaic of the time of Christ. I.E. the script writer translated the words of Jesus from the Bible, which are in Greek, back into a Semetic language. (The Semetic languages include Arabic, Hebrew, and Aramaic, because all 3 of these languages come from the same root words). Well, in this film, Jesus (saas) recites verse 16:7 from the gospel of John, and the pronunciation is as follows: "Al teethe khalone, heefe MUNAHMA…"

As it happens, Munahma is actually a Syriac pronunciation of AHMED, which is a contracted Arabic form of Muhammad. The Syriac word used, Munahma, as well as the Arabic word Ahmed AND Muhammad ALL come from the same archaic trilateral, which is HMD (pronounced Hemed). It is known as the Semetic "Praise Root."

To make a long story short, you can translate John 16:7 from Greek into Arabic, and the word that would be where Paraclete is in Greek, would actually be Ahmad. I.E. the text reads: "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, Ahmad will not come unto you."


DOES THE SHOE FIT?

Let us briefly examine the Prophesy of the Paraclete, and see if the actions of the Paraclete fit the actions of Muhammad.

1. The world cannot accept him because it does not know him, but the disciples of Jesus know him. (John 14:16) Well, even though Islam is the worlds fastest growing religion and the worlds 2nd largest religion, your average non-Muslim knows nothing about Muhammad unless they happen to have a Muslim friend. I.E. people of this world, who live for this world do not accept him, because they do not know him. Yet, the disciples were very clear on what his message would later be, because we believe all Prophets and their righteous companions had the religion of Islam in their hearts. (Islam means "surrender to God.")

2. He will teach us all things and will remind the world of what Jesus said to them. (John 14:26) Obviously Islam is the only religion that reminds the world of the TRUE message of Jesus, which is that there is only One God, who does not beget, neither is He begotten. And indeed Muhammad (saas) did teach us ALL things, because Islam is considered more of a way of life than a religion, because it governs every aspect of how a Muslim lives.

3. He will testify of Jesus (John 15:26). Indeed, the name of Jesus is mentioned more times in the Qu'ran than the name of Muhammad.

4. He will come AFTER Jesus (John 16:7) Indeed Muhammad was born almost 600 years after Jesus.

5. He will guide men to all truth (John 16:13) Of course Muslims believe that Islam takes humanity as close to the 100% truth as is possible to know in this plane of existence.

6. He will not speak of himself, but instead only what he hears from God. (John 16:13) Well, in this Muhammad (saas) is unique, because the Qu'ran was revealed to him, and not a single one of his own words remain in it. The Qu'ran, any Muslim will tell you is 100% God speaking in the first person, whereas the sayings of Muhammad, the Hadith, are kept separate, in their own books. This also makes it difficult to apply this prophesy to the Holy Spirit, as the Holy Spirit is supposed to be God, and thus it ill-befits God to be told what to say and dictate that, for He is the author of everything. This proves that Jesus -may peace be upon him- is indeed most likely referring to a human Prophet.



IMPOSSIBLE CONCLUSION: PARACLETE = HOLY SPIRIT

Furthermore, we know these "Paraclete" verses cannot be talking about the Holy Spirit because the verse clearly says that the Paraclete will not come until Jesus goes away. (John 16:7) Yet, in the Bible, the Holy Spirit was already present both before and during the life of Jesus. (For examples of the "Holy Spirit" before Jesus "went away" see the following bible verses: (1 Samuel 10:10, Isaiah 63:11, Luke 1:15, Luke 1:35, Luke 1:41, Luke 1:67, Luke 2:25, Luke 2:26, Luke 3:22, John 20:21-22)



JESUS DISCIPLES CONFIRM: STILL WAITING FOR 'AHMAD'

Another interesting point, is that the disciples of Jesus still anticipated the fulfillment of the "Prophet like unto Moses" mentioned in Dueteronomy 18:18 AFTER Jesus [saas] had already ascended. We read in chapter 3 of the book of Acts, that the Jews who are on the verge of converting to Christianity, ask Peter, a disciple of Christ, when the end of the world will come, when all things will be fulfilled, and when Jesus will return. Peter gives an answer which proves to all reasonable people that the companions of Jesus [saas] were taught that Jesus was NOT the Prophet mentioned in Duet. 18:18, that this prophet was yet to come. He says what has been recorded and translated in Acts chapter 3 as follows:

"He (Jesus) must remain in heaven until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets. For Moses said, 'The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you must listen to everything he tells you. Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off from among his people."

In other words, the Disciples are waiting on God to 'restore everything', and it cannot be considered that God has "restored everything" until Deuteronomy 18:18 is fulfilled. And, as is obvious, the Disciples, in the book of Acts, some time after the ascension of Christ, were still waiting for this Arab Prophet named Ahmed, which Jesus Christ Himself had prophesied by name.

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[mkh4JC]

No, it is indeed talking about the Holy Spirit (ie the third person of the Godhead) and not Muhammad. I question the above scholarship. Muhammad does not live inside of believers. That alone eliminates Muhammad. Here is what is recorded in the book of Acts:

'When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore the kingdom of Israel?

And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons that the Father has placed in his own power.

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.' Acts 1: 6-8.

'And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judea, and Cappdocia, in Pontus, and Asia,

Phrygia, and Pamphylia in Egypt, and in parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,

Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wornderful works of God.

And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?

Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.

But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy.' Acts 2: 1-18.

Speaking in tongues is something that happens to those who are in Christ even to this day. Also, let me address this point:

Furthermore, we know these "Paraclete" verses cannot be talking about the Holy Spirit because the verse clearly says that the Paraclete will not come until Jesus goes away. (John 16:7) Yet, in the Bible, the Holy Spirit was already present both before and during the life of Jesus. (For examples of the "Holy Spirit" before Jesus "went away" see the following bible verses: (1 Samuel 10:10, Isaiah 63:11, Luke 1:15, Luke 1:35, Luke 1:41, Luke 1:67, Luke 2:25, Luke 2:26, Luke 3:22, John 20:21-22)

Here's a source that addresses this:

It is noteworthy, I believe, to see that the Spirit’s coming upon men was the sovereign choice of God, rather than God’s response to the initiative of men. Generally speaking, men did not expect the Spirit of God to come upon them, nor did they do anything to prompt it. It happened. God took the initiative, and men responded accordingly. There is clearly no “pattern” for those who would wish to find some method or formula for obtaining the Spirit’s power. Men did not dispose of God or of His Spirit; rather God disposed of men, using His Spirit to do so.

He doesn't say that the Holy Spirit 'indwelled' within them. That couldn't happen until Christ's ministry. When you accept Christ and then become indwelled with the Holy Spirit then you are on a journey to be more and more like Christ, to be--as the Bible states--'conformed to the image of the Son.' On a journey towards perfection. This wasn't the case with the Old Testament saints, who had the Spirit 'come upon them.'

[جوري]

The true message of God is what dwells inside the believers, that is what the comforter brought.. you are literal and perverting of meaning I assume for the same reason you take men for gods and charlatans for saints..
Either way it really doesn't matter, I don't know why it should be an issue.. that is your belief.. & you have failed to validate it so that it is sensical the Church is compromised with paganism and secularism and incomprehensible theology which is exactly why it struggles within itself constantly reforming and constantly failing as well struggles with every new ideology that springs for its principles are at odds with sound practical judgment and science.. You are free to believe that god has three heads and the third head is a hovering ghost that lives in you!


all the best

[mkh4JC]

The true message of God is what dwells inside the believers, that is what the comforter brought.. you are literal and perverting of meaning I assume for the same reason you take men for gods and charlatans for saints..

What about the fact that Peter quotes Joel 2: 28?

'And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.'

Joel doesn't say anything about a Comforter here, he says God will pour out his Spirit. The Holy Spirit being poured out on Pentacost is the fulfillment of this.

Either way it really doesn't matter, I don't know why it should be an issue.. that is your belief.. & you have failed to validate it so that it is sensical the Church is compromised with paganism and secularism and incomprehensible theology which is exactly why it struggles within itself constantly reforming and constantly failing as well struggles with every new ideology that springs for its principles are at odds with sound practical judgment and science.. You are free to believe that god has three heads and the third head is a hovering ghost that lives in you!


all the best

You misunderstand. Firstly, not everyone who calls themselves Christians are truly Christs. Jesus himself said it this way:

'Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name have done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity (hidden sin).' Matthew 7: 21-22.

Jesus won't say, I knew you but you backslid. He will tell them that he never knew them period. And these are people who are going around supposedly casting out devils. It all comes back to whether or not you are living a life that is pleasing in the sight of the Lord, a life that he fully enabled you to live because you came to him.

Also, the body of Christ is diverse. That partially answers your concern. Here is what Paul said:


1Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

2Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

3Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

4Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

5And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.

6And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

7But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

8For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

9To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits (demons or devils); to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

12For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

13For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

14For the body is not one member, but many.

15If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

16And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

17If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?

18But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.

19And if they were all one member, where were the body?

20But now are they many members, yet but one body.

21And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

22Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:

23And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.

24For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked.

25That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.

26And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.

27Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

28And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

29Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

30Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

31But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

1 Corinthians 12

Also here:

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly, but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.


1 Corinthians 13: 9-12.

No Christian down here is ever going to come to a complete understanding of doctrine and theology. Now, that doesn't mean that heresies don't exist, because they do. But rather, even if you are truly Christian you still won't understand everything. And lastly, here's what Jesus said.

'And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.

And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.' Luke 9: 49-50.

[ShayB]

No Christian down here is ever going to come to a complete understanding of doctrine and theology. Now, that doesn't mean that heresies don't exist, because they do. But rather, even if you are truly Christian you still won't understand everything.

Why would God send down guidance that you couldn't completely understand? It should be common sense.

[Grace Seeker]

Why would God send down guidance that you couldn't completely understand? It should be common sense.

I submit to you that there is not a religion in the world where even all of its own adherents believe identically. So, since there is such apparent misunderstanding within every religion. It must follow that if you are correct that God would not send down guidance that one couldn't completely understand, that either God has not sent down any of the religions that are present in the world today. Or, if it is true that one of the religions in the world today actually is sent down by God, then you are incorrect, and your theory does not actually make common sense -- at least not to God -- after all.

[MuslimCONVERT]

No, it is indeed talking about the Holy Spirit (ie the third person of the Godhead) and not Muhammad. I question the above scholarship. Muhammad does not live inside of believers. That alone eliminates Muhammad.

My post did not say Muhammad [saas] dwells inside the believers. I think the point is that Jesus [saas] often spoke figuratively, and it's not always easy to discern when he was being figurative and when he was speaking literally. I think in the instance of propheseying that the Paraclete would be recognized by the disciples, he was speaking figuratively, and that "you" in the statements of Jesus [saas] to his disciples mean, not "you" as in literally the disciples, but "you" as in the believers of all times who would come after him. The Prophet Muhammad [saas], when giving specific prophesies would often be talking to the companions saying, "you" will do such and such, and it was clear in the Arabic [a semetic language similiar to Aramaic and Hebrew] that he meant all the Muslims living then and the ones to come after.

So, if we understand Jesus [saas] to have been speaking figuratively, then when saying that the 'Paraclete' would be recognized by the believers, and they would know him, it doesn't have to literally mean that the Paraclete himself would dwell in the hearts of the disciples whom Jesus [saas] was speaking to, but it could mean that the hearts of the true believers would recognize the message of the Paraclete.

If we understand the definition and etymology of the word "Islam" it is very much an internal word. An internal action of submission to God, loving God, and finding peace and tranquility through that submission and surrendering your will to Him. -All of this is based on knowing God [which the Qu'ran says is the purpose of life], and all of this is also something which takes place, or dwells, in the hearts of human beings. i.e. it is not an external action, but an inner action.

It is also part of the Muslim tradition that all previous Prophets were sent with the religion of Islam... in the sense that they all attempted to get people to surrender their will to the Creator, rely on Him, love Him, submit to him, and basically know Him and find tranquility through knowing Him. Some Prophets were sent with new laws for the betterment of their people, the quintessential example of this being Moses [saas], others were sent to remind their people of what they had forgotten of their religion, such as Ezekiel, Jeremiah, etc, and others were sent to focus on spirituality, the best example of this being Jesus [saas].

However, according to Muslim thought the Prophet Muhammad [saas] was the embodiment of all three Prophetic archetypes. A law-giver, a reminder, AND the bringer of a vast treasure of spirituality. Thus the term "Paraclete" in all it's meanings is the perfect word for Muhammad [saas] in the Greek language, and saying that the hearts of the believers would recognize him, is really perfect when the meaning of the multifarious word "Islam" is understood in all it's aspects, particularly that the word itself is a verb, an "action word", and that action is something which happens in the hearts alone.

Obviously I must be clear and say that the Christian interpretation of the Paraclete verses could be correct. I'm simply pointing out that another perfectly viable interpretation is possible, and it is up to the individual to be honest to themselves and then decide which interpretation they find more valid. :-)

[جوري]

'Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name have done many wonderful works?

.

I find it amusing that you quote all that and not find it applicable at all to your devil saul.. selective understanding perhaps..

all the best

[mkh4JC]

So, if we understand Jesus [saas] to have been speaking figuratively, then when saying that the 'Paraclete' would be recognized by the believers, and they would know him, it doesn't have to literally mean that the Paraclete himself would dwell in the hearts of the disciples whom Jesus [saas] was speaking to, but it could mean that the hearts of the true believers would recognize the message of the Paraclete.

I don't think you can say he was speaking figuratively, especially when you have Peter quoted Joel 2: 28, explaining to the Jews of the day that what the disciples were experiencing was the pouring out of God's Spirit.

'And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.'

I find it amusing that you quote all that and not find it applicable at all to your devil saul.. selective understanding perhaps..

Well let's look at Saul's conversion in scripture. Let's see what the scriptures say about Paul. Here's the end of Stephen's sermon to the Jews in Acts.

51Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

52Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

53Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

54When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

55But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

56And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

57Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,

58And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.

59And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.

60And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

Acts 7: 51-60.

1And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,

2And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

3And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

4And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

5And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

6And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

7And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

8And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.

9And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.

10And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.

11And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,

12And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.

13Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:

14And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.

15But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

16For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.

Acts 9. Final passage is here and I will make my point.

12And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

13Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

14And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

15This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

1 Timothy 1: 12-16. The point I'm trying to make is that by saving Paul God was setting forth an example that he can redeem from the guttermost to the uttermost. That he could save even his enemies, and have mercy on them. Paul was an extreme persecuter of the Church. It doesn't matter how resistant you are to the Gospel, God can still save you. And that's the example God set forth in the conversion of Paul.

[ShayB]

I submit to you that there is not a religion in the world where even all of its own adherents believe identically. So, since there is such apparent misunderstanding within every religion. It must follow that if you are correct that God would not send down guidance that one couldn't completely understand, that either God has not sent down any of the religions that are present in the world today. Or, if it is true that one of the religions in the world today actually is sent down by God, then you are incorrect, and your theory does not actually make common sense -- at least not to God -- after all.

I don't pretend to know Allah's reason for the division among Muslims. Common sense will tell you that Allah knows best, and if you stray from the Qur'an and Sunnah you are indeed far from the right way.

And hold fast, all together, by the rope which Allah (stretches out for
you), and be not divided among yourselves;” [Al-Qur’an 3:103]

As for those who divide Their religion and break up into sects, thou
hast no part in them in the least: Their affair is with Allah: He will in the
end tell them the truth of all that they did.” [Al-Qur’an 6:159]

[Grace Seeker]

I don't pretend to know Allah's reason for the division among Muslims.

So, then you do admit that God has sent down guidance that is not completely understood by everyone who seeks to follow it. Perhaps it should not be that way, but nonetheless it is an observable fact.

[ShayB]

So, then you do admit that God has sent down guidance that is not completely understood by everyone who seeks to follow it. Perhaps it should not be that way, but nonetheless it is an observable fact.

No, it is understood by the people Allah has guided, for everyone else, Allah knows best. I'm sorry you don't understand what I'm saying...it's a Muslim thang.

The only advice I can give you is instead of trying to find the discrepancies, try looking for the Truth and maybe you'll find it, Insha'Allah.

[MuslimCONVERT]

No, it is understood by the people Allah has guided, for everyone else, Allah knows best. I'm sorry you don't understand what I'm saying...it's a Muslim thang.

The only advice I can give you is instead of trying to find the discrepancies, try looking for the Truth and maybe you'll find it, Insha'Allah.

This is a very humble approach br. ShayB! To say, in effect, "The answer is out there because this deen is perfect, but I am not among those knowledgeable enough to be able to grasp or explain the answer" -That really is the correct response, and I hope would be the response of all the Muslims when they don't know something [which, unfortunately is rarely the case anymore].

May Allah [swt] bless you, and guide you, and make you among the believers whom He loves to meet, and who loves to meet Him! Ameen!

BTW I have somewhat of a vague idea on how to answer this question of why there are different sects in Islam... but haven't bothered to put in my 2 cents because I feel it's a bit irrelevent to the topic. Perhaps there are others more knowledgeable than I who could give a better answer that feel the same way.

Salaam

[Grace Seeker]

No, it is understood by the people Allah has guided, for everyone else, Allah knows best. I'm sorry you don't understand what I'm saying...it's a Muslim thang.

The only advice I can give you is instead of trying to find the discrepancies, try looking for the Truth and maybe you'll find it, Insha'Allah.

And I submit to you once again that there is no religion, Islam included, where all of the followers of that religion have exactly identical understandings of what God has revealed to them. And I submit that the corrollary to this no one has completely understands the things and ways of God because no one but God has perfect knowledge of God. I agree with MuslimConvert's own humble commentary that one should say "I am not among those knowledgeable enough to be able to grasp...the answer." But I also think it illustrates my point.

You questioned Christianity earlier by saying: "Why would God send down guidance that you couldn't completely understand? It should be common sense." But it seems that even in Islam there are things that are not completely understood. Yet, you don't find in this reality evidence that Islam is false. I want to suggest to you that the lack of complete understanding on the part of some believers, and even more so the lack of understanding on the part of those outisde of a religion, is not in itself sufficient justification for the basis of rejecting a religion.

"As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts," says the Lord (Isaiah 55:9); therefore we should not expect that we would be able to complete understand all that there is to know about God. He may indeed reveal certain things to us as true, but that does not mean that we will understand them. I know that gravity is true and can conduct many experiments to observe and measure it, but I have yet to meet even the most accomplished scientist that can explain where this gravitational force comes from or what makes it works.

There are many aspects of God's nature that are beyond our understanding: his ominiscience, his might, his holiness, his grace, his omnipresence, but that doesn't make them any less real. Indeed we know they are real for we ourselves have undoubtedly experienced some if not all of these in our own lives. Yet, even though we know these things are true and can even testify to some aspect of them, it certainly doesn't mean that we completely understand.

So, I don't know why God sends down guidance that we can't completely understand, it might be because of our ignorance, it also might be presumption on our part to suppose that we ever should. But I do know this: "Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known" (1 Corinthians 13:12).

[IAmZamzam]

Here we go again. What the Koran actually says on the matter is:

Jesus son of Mary said, "Children of Israel, I am indeed the Messenger of God to you, confirming the Torah that is before me, and giving good tidings of a Messenger who shall come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." (Surah 61, verse 6, Arberry)

Read the verse carefully. It says this is something Jesus (P) said when addressing the locals in one of his speeches, not something that was necessarily written. If it was written, then it would likely have been written in the Gospel the Koran refers to when it speaks of "al-Injeel", which is one of the many lost Gospels instead of one of the four found in the Bible, as I have absolutely proved a great many different ways in no fewer than four articles on my website (link in my signature). And the statement may very well have never been written in that Gospel either. Should we expect every portent that ever came out of Jesus's (P) mouth to have been written down eventually?

As for "paraclete", whatever the word refers to, it still comes from a speech in which Jesus (P) states that he says nothing on his own authority and that he does only what God tells him to do.

Now, let me show you where the real meat lies. Here is an excerpt from another of my site's articles:

And this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?”
He confessed, he did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.”
And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?”
He said, “I am not.”
”Are you the prophet?”
And he answered, “No.” (John 1:19-21, RSV)

So as you can see, here a man by the title of “The Prophet” (there were no capital letters in ancient Greek) is shown to have been expected when Jesus (on whom be peace) and John the Baptist (on whom be peace) were around.

Not “one of the prophets” but “The Prophet”.

He is mentioned here as being distinct from Jesus (on whom be peace), John the Baptist (on whom be peace) and Elijah (on whom be peace).

The only major religious leader to come who was known by the title “The Prophet” was Muhammad (on whom be peace). Therefore this passage is undeniably prophesying his coming.

Now as for the inevitable rebuttals of the Christians:

First the evasive response Christians sometimes give that we are selectively believing in these three verses while disbelieving in John 1:1 for no good reason: we have perfectly good grounds for doing this, since the two passages are in two, completely different contexts. One is the author’s personal commentary, his own beliefs, and the other is an event that he was reporting. By the faulty logic of this evasive response, you would have to believe whatever a television news reporter said if they commented on the news they were about to report.

Another common attempt of Christians to dodge the obvious is to say that while "the Prophet" was going to be Jesus (P), the people at the time didn't necessarily know he wouldn't be distinct from the Christ. If this was the case, you would think that John the Baptist (P), the man who talked to God in the desert and knew all about the situation, would have corrected the guy on the matter, since his very job was to get people up to speed on the guy who was to succeed him. Also, the Bible verse the Christians making this weak defense point to as their defense says only that some of the people thought Jesus (P) to be "one of the prophets". Again, the question asked of John (P) in the above passage was not "Are you a prophet?" (He would have answered "yes"; the Bible itself confirms he was.) It was not, "Are you one of the prophets?" (Synonymous with the first question.) It was "Are you The Prophet?"

[mkh4JC]

And this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?”
He confessed, he did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.”
And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?”
He said, “I am not.”
”Are you the prophet?”
And he answered, “No.” (John 1:19-21, RSV)

So as you can see, here a man by the title of “The Prophet” (there were no capital letters in ancient Greek) is shown to have been expected when Jesus (on whom be peace) and John the Baptist (on whom be peace) were around.

Not “one of the prophets” but “The Prophet”.

He is mentioned here as being distinct from Jesus (on whom be peace), John the Baptist (on whom be peace) and Elijah (on whom be peace).

The only major religious leader to come who was known by the title “The Prophet” was Muhammad (on whom be peace). Therefore this passage is undeniably prophesying his coming.

Now as for the inevitable rebuttals of the Christians:

First the evasive response Christians sometimes give that we are selectively believing in these three verses while disbelieving in John 1:1 for no good reason: we have perfectly good grounds for doing this, since the two passages are in two, completely different contexts. One is the author’s personal commentary, his own beliefs, and the other is an event that he was reporting. By the faulty logic of this evasive response, you would have to believe whatever a television news reporter said if they commented on the news they were about to report.

Another common attempt of Christians to dodge the obvious is to say that while "the Prophet" was going to be Jesus (P), the people at the time didn't necessarily know he wouldn't be distinct from the Christ. If this was the case, you would think that John the Baptist (P), the man who talked to God in the desert and knew all about the situation, would have corrected the guy on the matter, since his very job was to get people up to speed on the guy who was to succeed him. Also, the Bible verse the Christians making this weak defense point to as their defense says only that some of the people thought Jesus (P) to be "one of the prophets". Again, the question asked of John (P) in the above passage was not "Are you a prophet?" (He would have answered "yes"; the Bible itself confirms he was.) It was not, "Are you one of the prophets?" (Synonymous with the first question.) It was "Are you The Prophet?"

You misunderstand. The Jews when making that statement were inquiring about whether or not John the Baptist was the Messiah. They believed the forerunner who was to come was to be Elijah, as it plainly stated, while the forerunner was supposed to come in the spirit and power of him, not be him, as it is explained in the book of Luke.

As I said, when the Jews questioned John the Baptist with the following (are you that prophet) they were asking whether or not he was the Messiah. Consider this passage.

'Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.'
St. John 6: 14.

Jesus is unique throughout all of human history in that he is Priest, Prophet, and King. Indeed, the site Jews for Jesus is quoted as referring to him as a Jewish-God-Man-King and asks, could the Messiah be anyone else?

[IAmZamzam]

Then why were they three separate questions with three separate answers in succession?

[mkh4JC]

Then why were they three separate questions with three separate answers in succession?

Well, maybe these gentlemen can clear up any confusion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81iZ8DUoEQw

[جوري]

I don't think you can say he was speaking figuratively, especially when you have Peter quoted Joel 2: 28, explaining to the Jews of the day that what the disciples were experiencing was the pouring out of God's Spirit.

'And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.'



Well let's look at Saul's conversion in scripture. Let's see what the scriptures say about Paul. Here's the end of Stephen's sermon to the Jews in Acts.

51Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

52Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

53Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

54When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

55But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

56And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

57Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,

58And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.

59And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.

60And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

Acts 7: 51-60.

1And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,

2And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

3And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

4And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

5And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

6And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

7And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

8And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.

9And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.

10And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.

11And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,

12And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.

13Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:

14And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.

15But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

16For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.

Acts 9. Final passage is here and I will make my point.

12And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

13Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

14And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

15This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

1 Timothy 1: 12-16. The point I'm trying to make is that by saving Paul God was setting forth an example that he can redeem from the guttermost to the uttermost. That he could save even his enemies, and have mercy on them. Paul was an extreme persecuter of the Church. It doesn't matter how resistant you are to the Gospel, God can still save you. And that's the example God set forth in the conversion of Paul.

and let's take a look at paul's alleged conversion according to other christians:

Just Give Me The Truth - Home

The Apostle Paul Was A Deceiver!

He was Satan In The Flesh! An Antichrist!

Matthew 24:4-5 states you will be deceived by people that come using Jesus’ name. Consider the parable of the sower. Jesus was warning us then that as soon as His Gospel was preached, the enemy (Paul) would be there to steal the truth!

***The real (untranslated) name of Jesus is Y'hoshua (pronounced like the name Joshua but with a Y, YoHoshua, some pronounce his name as Yeshua). All refer to the Son of God who came as the promised Messiah who died on the cross for our sins and rose again.

Now before you throw a tantrum and wonder why I haven't been struck by lightening straight from the throne room of God, I can prove to you that Paul was a Fraud using his own words. Of course, if you're a female, and you're in the ministry, you already know he was, you probably just didn't realize it! For to be a female and in the ministry of the Lord, you had to turn your back on Paul to follow Jesus. Congrats! You figured it out! You refused to buy into the lie pie Satan tried to sell you as Paul!

I'm going to make some startling points to wake your mind up into the truth, so hear me out, then I'll go through and explain each one and give you all the proof you need to see for yourself that what I'm saying is indeed the truth.

• Paul was Satan in the Flesh
• Paul was never recognized as an apostle by the Disciples OR Jesus
• Paul was never trained by the disciples, the men who walked, talked, and broke bread with our Saviour. He received his knowledge from "revelations."
• Paul's account of his Damascus Road Experience changed every time he told it, thus the disciples knew he was lying.
• Paul declared he was teaching another Gospel of which he himself was the Father
• Paul declared he himself was the son of God
• Paul issued his own commandments and laws for people to adhere to
• Paul taught the exact Opposite of what Jesus and His real disciples did.
• Paul worked to destroy and undo everything Jesus and His disciples did and were doing.
• Paul was never repentant for being the greatest persecutor of Christians at that time! He boasted about it! Over and Over!
• Paul said God's law was a Curse. Jesus said it was a blessing. Who's lying?
• Paul condemned Jesus and His disciples for false teachings, he condemned Jesus Himself for having long hair in 1 Corinthians 11:14, something approved in Numbers 6:5 and Judges 13:5.
• Jesus Said: Keep the Sabbath (Mark 2:27), circumcise male children (Luke 2:21), Paul Said: Circumcision is not necessary (Romans 2:26) that is going against what the Christ said in Luke 2:21.
• In 1 Corinthians 15:1 Paul says that he was not giving them anything but what “he preached.” He explained this even further in the second book (or letter) to the Corinthians (2 Corinthians 11:17). It reads - “That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.” He's telling you plain and simple he was speaking of himself and not from or of the Lord!"
• Paul cursed Jesus and His disciples
• Paul claimed he himself was the son of God
• Paul Supported and demanded Adherence to Iniquity (Discrimination), Jesus said to not let it be found among us! Who's lying?

Jesus: When Yahshua confronts the Adversary, he defeats him by saying, "You shall live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of YHWH, and Him alone will you serve."

Paul: When Paul is mobbed by people who wish to stone him for preaching against the Law of YHWH, he relies on the worldly authorities as a Roman entitled to the protection of the government rulers who save him (Dt. 8:3, Mt.4:4, Acts 22:26, 23:27

Jesus: "DO NOT CALL ANYONE ON EARTH YOUR FATHER; for ONE IS YOUR FATHER, HE who is in heaven"
(Matthew 23:9)

The devil 'PAUL' BLASPEMOUSLY BOASTED

"For I BECAME YOUR FATHER"
(1 Corinthians 4:15)

" JESUS came to Galilee PREACHING THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM "
(Mark 1:14, Matt.4:23).
JESUS said " THIS GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM will be PREACHED, IN MY NAME in all the world
(Matt.24:14).
'PAUL' CAME preaching, by his own admission, ANOTHER GOSPEL PROMOTING LAWLESSNESS and LICENTIOUSNESS

many excerpts taken from disciplesofchrist.com

"I ('PAUL') testify to the gospel of the grace of god...ANOTHER GOSPEL...ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL "
(Acts 20:24. 2 Corinthians 11:4. 1 Corinthians 10:23).


"PERVERTING THE GRACE OF OUR GOD INTO LAWLESSNESS EVEN DENYING THE ONLY LORD GOD (THE FATHER) AND OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST (THE FATHER'S SON)"
(Jude 4. 1 John 2:22)



'PAUL' CURSED JESUS CHRIST AND HIS APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES

" If we or an angel from heaven preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL to you than what we (Paul and his followers) have preached to you LET HIM BE A CURSE"
(Gal 1:18)

There was a distinction even back then with the disciples of Jesus and Paul and "his" followers. Barnabbas and Mark both followed Paul at one time and then left him and went back to the disciples. Barnabbas was sent by the Apostle Peter to travel with Paul and teach Paul the ways and teachings of Jesus, but Paul wasn't going to play second fiddle to anyone and usurped the authority of Barnabbas and taught what he wanted to teach. How many ever knew that Paul was suppose to be subservient to Barnabbas?



"Indeed I PAUL say to you that IF ANYONE BECOME CIRCUMCISED Christ will profit you nothing " (Gal. 5:2).


too bad Paul! The circumcision was a sign of the covenant between Israel and Yahovah and you're lie was exposed for what it was! Another false "divine revelation!"
YET, despite his assertion that 'Christ will profit you nothing', 'Paul' himself, HYPOCRITICALLY " took TIMOTHY and CIRCUMCISED HIM "
(Acts 16:3).

Now Paul declares it's ok to eat meat sacrificed to idols

" For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than THESE NECESSARY THINGS:
That you ABSTAIN FROM MEATS offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled and from fornication..."
(Acts 15:28:29)
" But I (Jesus) have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a STUMBLING BLOCK before the children of Israel, TO EAT THINGS SACRIFICED TO IDOLS "
(Revelation 2:14)

" I ( PAUL ) have laid a FOUNDATION...the FOUNDATION OF APOSTLES AND PROPHETS "


( 1 Cor.3:10. Eph 2:20 The words of PSALM 68:18 read "HE (ALMIGHTY GOD) RECEIVED gifts FROM men" (Psalm 68:18)


'Paul' TOOK AWAY FROM the words of Psalm 68:18 and changed them to read "he GAVE gifts TO men" (Ephesians 4:8)

Now do you wonder why there's so much strife and division in our churches today? Because they're filled with Saul-Paul-Satan who completely contradicts the Real Word of God!

in Hebrew the name "Saul" means underworld, borrowed

"AND THIS GOSPEL WILL BE PREACHED IN ALL THE EARTH FOR A WITNESS TO ME. AND THEN THE END WILL COME; THIS (THE END) IS THE ANTI-CHRIST AND THIS (THE ANTI-CHRIST) IS THE ABOMINATION WHICH DESOLATES WHICH WAS SPOKEN OF BY DANIEL AS STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE (IN THE PLACE OF MESSIAH); LET THE ONE WHO READS UNDERSTAND"
(Matthew 24:14,15 Shem Tov Jewish translation from original Jewish Version as written by Matthew)



THE COMING OF


"THE END...THE ABOMINATION WHICH MAKES DESOLATE "


**PROPHESIED BY DANIEL**



"He said, "Behold, I am going to let you know what will occur at the final period of the indignation, for it pertains to the appointed time of THE END...".

"From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and THE ABOMINATION WHICH MAKES DESOLATE is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
(Daniel 8:19. 11:31. 12:11)

THE ARRIVAL OF


" THE END...THE ANTICHRIST, THE ABOMINATION WHICH MAKES DESOLATE"


**CONFIRMED BY THE APOSTLE JOHN**



" Little children, IT IS THE LAST HOUR (THE END); and as ye have heard THE ANTICHRIST SHALL COME, even NOW there are MANY ANTICHRISTS; this is how we know that it is THE LAST HOUR (THE END)"
(1 John 2:18)



YESHUA (JESUS) THE MESSIAH FURTHER WARNED


"MANY WILL COME USING MY NAME SAYING:
'I AM THE MESSIAH, RABBI, PASTOR, TEACHER'
(Matthew 24:5. Matthew 23:8,10)




" JESUS said to them " I SAW SATAN FALL, LIKE LIGHTNING, FROM HEAVEN"
(Luke 10:18)


"So the great DRAGON was cast out FROM HEAVEN, that SERPENT of old called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; HE WAS CAST TO THE EARTH AND HIS ANGELS WERE CAST OUT WITH HIM "
(Revelation 12:9. Matthew 13:39)

" As SAUL journeyed he came near Damascus and suddenly A LIGHT FROM HEAVEN (LIGHTNING) shone around him and he fell to the ground"
(Acts 9:3,4)



SCALES OF THE SERPENT

" there fell from SAUL'S eyes something like SCALES (of the SERPENT)"
(Acts 9:18)

"YESHUA (JESUS) SAID YOU HAVE TESTED THOSE WHO SAY THEY ARE APOSTLES AND ARE NOT AND HAVE FOUND THEM TO BE LIARS "
(Revelation 2:2)



YESHUA (JESUS) THE MESSIAH WARNED


"MANY WILL COME USING MY NAME SAYING:
'I AM THE MESSIAH, RABBI, PASTOR, TEACHER'
(Matthew 24:5. Matthew 23:8,10)




THE DIVINE TEST OF A TRUE APOSTLE OF YESHUA (JESUS) THE MESSIAH


Peter established a test for apostles:
"PETER said...therefore it is necessary that of the men who have accompanied us ALL THE TIME that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us--BEGINNING WITH THE BAPTISM OF JOHN until THE DAY HE WAS TAKEN UP FROM US --one of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection."

(Acts 1:21,22) In other words, in order to be an apostle you would have had to have been a disciple first!


(NOTE: Because 'Paul', Barnabas, Timothy, Silvanus and others failed to meet the TEST, set by Peter they were "REJECTED BY ALL IN ASIA"; as acknowledged by 'Paul' and Timothy).

" This you know that ALL THOSE IN ASIA HAVE TURNED AWAY FROM ME "
(2 Tim. 1:15).



SAUL (who changed his name to 'Paul') ENEMY OF JESUS CHRIST



JESUS prophesied "...IF ANOTHER COMES, IN HIS OWN NAME, YOU (Scribes and Pharisees) WILL RECEIVE HIM"
(John 5:43b)


" SAUL who is ALSO called 'PAUL'
( Acts 13:9 )
JESUS prophesied " While men slept HIS ENEMY came and sowed TARES
(Matt.13:25).
" UNGODLY MEN...WHO HAVE SECRETLY CREPT IN TO OUR ASSEMBLIES "
(Jude 4)
" JESUS said to them AN ENEMY has done this "
(Matthew 13:28)

PAUL' THE DEVIL
( Matthew 13:39. Matthew 25:41 )



JESUS explained: " THE ENEMY who sowed THE TARES is THE DEVIL "
( Matt.13:39 )
" THE EVIL ONE "
( Matthew 13:38. Matt. 6:13. John 17:15 )
" There fell from SAUL'S eyes, something like SCALES(of the SERPENT"
(Acts 9:18)


'PAUL' A MURDERER

Paul BOASTED about being the persecutor of the Jews.

He NEVER Repented or sought their forgiveness.

Or God's!

JESUS said " He was a MURDERER from the beginning "
(John 8:44)
"He shall PERSECUTE the saints of The Most HIGH"
(Daniel 7:25)
"SAUL was in hearty agreement with putting Stephen to death. And on that day a GREAT PERSECUTION began against the church in Jerusalem, and they were all scattered throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles".
"But SAUL began ravaging the church, entering house after house, and dragging off men and women, he would put them in prison".
" SAUL breathing THREATS and MURDER against the disciples of The Lord "
(Acts 8:1-3. 9:1 )



'PAUL' SPOKE AGAINST GOD,THE FATHER and SOUGHT to MAKE ALTERATIONS IN TIMES AND IN LAW, AS PROPHESIED BY DANIEL



"He shall speak POMPOUS WORDS AGAINST THE MOST HIGH...AND SHALL INTEND TO MAKE ALTERATIONS IN TIMES AND IN LAW"
(Daniel 7:25)

'PAUL' SPOKE the POMPOUS WORDS

"For I BECAME YOUR FATHER"
(1 Corinthians 4:15)

JESUS quoted "TWO COMMANDMENTS" requiring (1) LOVE OF GOD,THE FATHER and (2) LOVE OF NEIGHBOUR:

"Jesus said unto him, Thou shall love THE LORD THY GOD with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is THE FIRST and great commandment. And the SECOND is like unto it. Thou shall love THY NEIGHBOUR as thyself. On these TWO commandments hang ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS".
(Matthew 22:37-40).

The devil 'Paul' showed his HATRED FOR GOD, THE FATHER by teaching THE LIE:

"For ALL THE LAW is fulfilled in ONE WORD, even in this: Thou shall love THY NEIGHBOUR (no LOVE FOR GOD) as thyself"
(Galations 5:14. Romans 13:9)

" ALL THINGS are PERMISSABLE"
(1 Corinthians 6:12)



(NOTE: Because the devil 'Paul' taught the REMOVAL of the first FOUR of the TEN COMMANDMENTS which require LOVE OF GOD, THE FATHER; christians have sought to corrupt the same FIRST FOUR COMMANDMENTS by (1) substituting 'trinity' instead of GOD,THE FATHER THE ONLY TRUE GOD (2)completely REMOVING THE SECOND and (3) TRAMPLE ON THE THIRD and (4)SUBSTITUTED 'sunday'the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK for THE SABBATH (SEVENTH DAY) (ALTERATIONS IN TIMES)



'PAUL' THE ANTICHRIST ' and THE ABOMINATION WHICH MAKES DESOLATE



"...THAT WHICH IS ESTEEMED among men IS AN ABOMINATION in the sight of GOD"
(Luke 16:15)


"YESHUA (JESUS) SAID AND THEN THE END WILL COME; THIS (THE END) IS THE ANTI-CHRIST AND THIS (THE ANTI-CHRIST) IS THE ABOMINATION WHICH MAKES DESOLATES WHICH WAS SPOKEN OF BY DANIEL AS STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE (IN THE PLACE OF CHRIST)...
(Matthew 24:15 Shem Tov Jewish vsn. Daniel 9:27. 12:11)
"From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the ABOMINATION WHICH MAKES DESOLATE is set up, there will be 1,290 days ".
(Daniel 12:11)
(NOTE: 'PAUL', the 'THE ANTI-CHRIST and THE ABOMINATION WHICH MAKES DESOLATE' made his 'ungodly' appearance EXACTLY "1290 days" after the death of Yeshua (Jesus) The MESSIAH as prophesied by Daniel. On the very day when Yeshua (Jesus) ' made himself an offering for sin' (Isaiah 53:10), 'the regular sacrifice ' was 'abolished'; confirmed by God, the Father when " The veil of the temple was torn in two from the top to the bottom" as recorded in Matthew 27:51)
"...and on the wing of ABOMINATIONS will come ONE WHO MAKES DESOLATE, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."
(Daniel 9:27)
"...as you heard that ANTICHRIST IS COMING, even now MANY ANTICHRISTS HAVE APPEARED;"
(1 John 2:18. Matthew 13:38,39)
The TRUE apostle, also John declared " HE is THE ANTICHRIST who DENIES BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON "
(1 John 2:22)




'PAUL' BLASPHEMOUSLY BOASTED THAT HE WAS GOD, THE FATHER



JESUS WARNS HIS DISCIPLES:



"DO NOT CALL ANYONE ON EARTH YOUR FATHER; for ONE IS YOUR FATHER, HE who is in heaven"
(Matthew 23:9)

The devil 'PAUL' BLASPEMOUSLY BOASTED:

"For I BECAME YOUR FATHER"
(1 Corinthians 4:15)


NOTE: Everyone of 'Paul's' papal successors BLASPHEMOUSLY claim, like 'Paul', the title "HOLY FATHER"; which Title belongs, EXCLUSIVELY, to THE ONLY TRUE GOD, THE FATHER, as testified by JESUS "HOLY FATHER" (John 17:3,11)




'PAUL' BOASTED THAT HE WAS EQUAL TO JESUS CHRIST

THE ANTICHRIST 'PAUL' BOASTED " In nothing was I behind THE MOST EMINENT (JESUS CHRIST)...IN SIGNS AND WONDERS AND MIGHTY DEEDS " (2 Cor. 12:11)



YESHUA(JESUS) THE MESSIAH WARNED


"MANY WILL COME USING MY NAME SAYING:
'I AM THE MESSIAH, RABBI, PASTOR, TEACHER'
(Matthew 24:5. Matthew 23:8,10)




The TRUE APOSTLE PETER testified: " JESUS of Nazareth A MAN ATTESTED BY GOD to you BY MIRACLES, WONDERS AND SIGNS "
(Acts 2:22)




NOTE: This diabolical " BOAST " was in fulfillment of the warning given by JESUS:
"For false christs and false prophets will arise and will show GREAT SIGNS AND WONDERS, so as to MISLEAD, if possible, even the elect "
(Matthew 24:24. see also Acts 15:12)




' PAUL ' BOASTED THAT HE WAS HOLIER THAN JESUS CHRIST


" IF ANYONE ELSE thinks he has confidence in the flesh I (PAUL) MORE SO,
" concerning the RIGHTEOUSNESS which is in THE LAW I (PAUL) AM BLAMELESS "
(Phil. 3:6).



'PAUL' BRAZENLY CLAIMED TO BEING THE SON OF GOD



YESHUA(JESUS) THE MESSIAH WARNED
"MANY WILL COME USING MY NAME SAYING:
'I AM THE MESSIAH, RABBI, PASTOR, TEACHER'
(Matthew 24:5. Matthew 23:8,10)

"YESHUA (JESUS) SAID "I AM THE SON OF GOD"
(John 10:36)



The DEVIL AND FALSE APOSTLE 'Paul' said:
" It pleased god to reveal his SON in ME ('PAUL')"
( Gal. 1:15,16 )


THE ANTICHRIST 'Paul' ALSO BOASTED " In nothing was I behind THE MOST EMINENT (JESUS CHRIST)...IN SIGNS AND WONDERS AND MIGHTY DEEDS "
> (2 Cor. 12:11)


" JESUS warned " MANY WILL COME IN MY NAME SAYING 'I AM THE MESSIAH' AND WILL SHOW SIGNS AND WONDERS AND SHALL DECEIVE MANY "
(MATTHEW 24:5,24 )

'PAUL' FALSELY CLAIMED THAT HE WAS AN APOSTLE TO THE GENTILES


That the APOSTLE PETER was the Divinely appointed "APOSTLE TO THE GENTILES" was unquestioned by The Twelve Apostles of The Lamb as PETER himself reminded them, at the Council meeting in Jerusalem:
"After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, "Brethren, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gospel and believe"
(Acts 15:7).
At the same Council meeting the false apostle 'Paul' had "SECRETLY CREPT IN" (Jude 4) by changing his name from Saul to 'Paul'. When PETER had completed his testimony the false apostle 'Paul' sought to assert his self-assumed apostolic authority by "showing signs and wonders to deceive, if possible the elected twelve, as Yeshua (Jesus) had warned" (Acts 15:12. Matthew 24:24).
When this failed the devil and false apostle 'Paul' later sought to usurp the Divinely appointed authority of the APOSTLE PETER as the "APOSTLE TO THE GENTILES". 'Paul'wrote the LIE to his Galation followers that he ('Paul')and NOT PETER "was entrusted with the gospel to the Gentiles" (Galations 2:7). In that same infamous letter 'Paul' also attacked the integrity of the faithful apostle PETER by making un-corroborated and FALSE CHARGES against PETER. These same LIES have been preached and written about by Pauline Christian ministers for the last two thousand years.


PAUL IDENTIFIED BY THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST 666
( Revelation 13:18 )



" Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding reckon the NUMBER OF THE BEAST, for it is THE NUMBER OF A MAN; and HIS number is six hundred and sixty six (666)."
(Revelation 13:18)
In HEBREW the number 666 is identified by the HEBREW LETTERS TRSV;
T=400, R=200, S=60, V=6 Which TOTAL 666.
TRSV is pronounced TARSU.
(NOTE: In Scripture the PLACE OF ORIGIN IDENTIFIES the person; eg "Jesus of Nazareth", "Joseph of Arimathea", "Paul of Tarsu".
"PAUL OF TARSU(TRSV)" is identified by THE NUMBER 666.

LIKEWISE IN THE GREEK



THE NUMBER 666 is the sum of the numerical value of the Greek Letters in the Greek word LATEINOS, which means " THE LATIN MAN ".
THE GREEK WORD L A T E I N O S
THE GREEK NUMERIC VALUE 30 1 300 5 10 50 70 200 = 666


The association of "Lateinos" with 666 was acknowledged, with great embarassment, by the historian IRENAEUS (ca. 130-202 A.D.),in his document 'Against Heresies', "For the Latins are they who at present bear rule...this being the name of the last kingdom (of the four seen by Daniel)...I will not, however, make any boast over this (coincidence)...".


The COWARD 'PAUL' identified himself as
" a man that is a Roman "
(Acts 22:25)


in order to escape persecution and death.

'Paul' " a man that is a Roman " is " The Latin Man ".
666
IS " THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME "
(Revelation 13:18).

IN BOTH the HEBREW and THE GREEK THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME IS 666



'PAUL' THE FIRST CHRISTIAN POPE



As foretold by JESUS, when THE DEVIL, THE ANTICHRIST, THE ABOMINATION WHICH MAKES DESOLTATE, AND FALSE APOSTLE 'PAUL' had FOUNDED CHRISTIANITY, "HE WENT AWAY"(Matthew 13:25) to ROME.


Having secured safe passage,under the patronage of CAESAR, he was taken to to ROME, under the pretence of being a prisoner.
Upon arrival at Rome 'Paul' was installed in a luxurious villa where
" he was allowed to stay by himself, with the soldier who was guarding him (for his own protection)"
(Acts 27:1. 28:16).
This "soldier" was the very first of the " vatican guards " supplied by CAESAR to provide protection to 'Paul' and his papal successors.
Everyone of the christian Popes, who have since succeeded the first Pope 'Paul', to the office of the papacy, are identified by the same NUMBER OF THE BEAST (666). Like 'PAUL' the Christian Popes BLASPHEMOUSLY claim the Titles "HOLY FATHER" and 'vicar of christ (instead of christ); which is inscribed on their tiaras.




' PAUL ' A LIAR '



JESUS said: " HE is A LIAR and THE FATHER OF LIES "
(John 8:44)



JESUS commended HIS DISCIPLES in HIS CHURCH at EPHESUS:
" You have tested those who SAY THEY ARE APOSTLES and ARE NOT and have found them LIARS"
(Rev. 2:2)
'Paul' BOASTED of his LIES
If through MY LIE God's truth abounds to His glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?
(Romans 3:7)
In every way, whether in PRETENCE or in truth, Jesus is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice


(Philippians 1:18)



PAUL made THE LYING BOAST to being SINLESS:



" If anyone else thinks he has confidence in the flesh I ('Paul')MORE SO...
concerning THE RIGHTOUSNESS which is in THE LAW, I ('PAUL')AM BLAMELESS "
( Phil 3:6 ).
JESUS DECLARES 'PAUL' AS BEING A LIAR when he states ;
" NOT ONE OF YOU KEEPS THE LAW "
(John 7:19).



' PAUL ' REJECTED BY THE TWELVE APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES OF JESUS



" But when SAUL had come to Jerusalem HE tried to join the disciples; but they were ALL AFRAID OF HIM AND DID NOT BELIEVE THAT HE WAS A DISCIPLE "
(Acts 9:26).
"All the people kept (stunned)silence, as they were listening to Barnabas and Paul as they were relating what SIGNS AND WONDERS 'God had done through them among the Gentiles'.
"After they had stopped speaking, James answered, saying, "Brethren, LISTEN TO ME".
(Acts 15:12,13).


NOTE the swift intervention of James telling " all the people...LISTEN TO ME " and not be " listening " to "Barnabas and Paul" who attempted to " SHOW SIGNS AND WONDERS TO DECEIVE, IF POSSIBLE, EVEN THE ELECT " as Jesus warned in Matthew 24:24.




'PAUL' COMPLAINED BITTERLY to his disciple Timothy
" This you know that ALL THOSE IN ASIA HAVE TURNED AWAY FROM ME "
(2 Tim. 1:15).




'PAUL' PREACHED ANOTHER GOSPEL.



" JESUS came to Galilee PREACHING THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM "
(Mark 1:14, Matt.4:23).
JESUS said " THIS GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM will be PREACHED, IN MY NAME in all the world
(Matt.24:14).
'PAUL' CAME preaching, by his own admission, ANOTHER GOSPEL PROMOTING LAWLESSNESS and LICENTIOUSNESS



"I ('PAUL') testify to the gospel of the grace of god...ANOTHER GOSPEL...ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL "
(Acts 20:24. 2 Corinthians 11:4. 1 Corinthians 10:23).


"PERVERTING THE GRACE OF OUR GOD INTO LAWLESSNESS EVEN DENYING THE ONLY LORD GOD (THE FATHER) AND OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST (THE FATHER'S SON)"
(Jude 4. 1 John 2:22)

'PAUL' CURSED JESUS CHRIST AND HIS APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES

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" If we or an angel from heaven preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL to you than what we have preached to you LET HIM BE A CURSE"
(Gal 1:18)

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NOTE: ONLY amongst christians, in every christian home, office, workshop, place of worship, theatre, cinema, radio, television etc is "THE NOBLE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST" (James 2:7) used as " a curse " as commanded by the devil and false apostle 'Paul'.



PAUL A HYPOCRITE

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" Indeed I PAUL say to you that IF ANYONE BECOME CIRCUMCISED Christ will profit you nothing " (Gal. 5:2).


YET, despite his assertion that 'Christ will profit you nothing', 'Paul' himself, HYPOCRITICALLY " took TIMOTHY and CIRCUMCISED HIM "
(Acts 16:3).
" PAUL took the men HAVING BEEN PURIFIED WITH THEM ".
(Acts 21:26)



PAUL ENCOURAGED THE EATING OF FOOD OFFERED TO IDOLS.



" I (Paul) am fully convinced NO FOOD is UNCLEAN in itself "
(Romans 14:14)

THIS EVIL TEACHING IS IN BLATANT DISREGARD FOR THE COMMAND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE TWELVE APOSTLES
" For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than THESE NECESSARY THINGS:
That you ABSTAIN FROM MEATS offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled and from fornication..."
(Acts 15:28:29)
" But I (Jesus) have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a STUMBLING BLOCK before the children of Israel, TO EAT THINGS SACRIFICED TO IDOLS "
(Revelation 2:14)

NOTE: CHRISTIANS in every country EAT BLOOD PRODUCTS such as 'black and white puddings and PORK MEATS



PAUL FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY

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YESHUA (JESUS) THE MESSIAH PROPHESIED


"And this gospel will be preached in all the earth for a witness to me. THEN THE END WILL COME; THIS (THE END) IS THE ANTI-CHRIST AND THIS (THE END) IS THE ABOMINATION WHICH DESOLATES WHICH WAS SPOKEN OF BY DANIEL AS STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE (IN THE PLACE OF MESSIAH); LET THE ONE WHO READS UNDERSTAND"
(Matthew 24:14,15 Shem Tov Jewish translation from original Jewish Version as written by Matthew)

YESHUA(JESUS) THE MESSIAH WARNED
"MANY WILL COME USING MY NAME SAYING:
'I AM THE MESSIAH, RABBI, PASTOR, TEACHER'
(Matthew 24:5. Matthew 23:8,10)




" I ( PAUL ) have laid a FOUNDATION...the FOUNDATION OF APOSTLES AND PROPHETS "
( 1 Cor.3:10. Eph 2:20

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In order to justify his appointment of 'APOSTLES and PROPHETS', 'Paul CHANGED OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE.
The words of PSALM 68:18 read "HE (ALMIGHTY GOD) RECEIVED gifts FROM men" (Psalm 68:18)
'Paul' TOOK AWAY FROM the words of Psalm 68:18 and changed them to read "he GAVE gifts TO men" (Ephesians 4:8)



" Now in the church that was in ANTIOCH there were certain PROPHETS...and PAUL "
(Acts 13:1).
" PAUL'S disciples "
(Acts 9:25).
" The DISCIPLES (of 'PAUL') were first CALLED CHRISTIANS in ANTIOCH "
(Acts 11:26).

'PAUL' MADE ALTERATIONS TO SCRIPTURE AS PROPHESIED BY DANIEL

.



"He shall speak POMPOUS WORDS AGAINST THE MOST HIGH...AND SHALL INTEND TO MAKE ALTERATIONS IN TIMES AND IN LAW"
(Daniel 7:25)

In order to jusify" BARNABAS and I (PAUL) NOT WORKING FOR A LIVING LIKE OTHER MEN "
(1 Cor. 9:9).
PAUL "MADE ALTERATIONS IN...LAW" which commands:
" You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain "
(Deut 25:4).

In giving this command to MOSES, GOD was showing HIS CONCERN for the welfare of the oxen (see also Proverbs 12:10)" A righteous man regards the life of his animal ".

PAUL teaches the BRAZEN LIE that " GOD is NOT CONCERNED with OXEN (but)...says it ALTOGETHER for our sakes " (1 Cor. 9:9)..

NOTE: This is a UNIVERSAL MARK of 'PAUL' and HIS CHRISTIAN FELLOW WORKERS they" DO NOT WORK FOR A LIVING LIKE OTHER MEN".

The devil 'Paul' and his christian ministers(angels) are THE ONLY PEOPLE who "BUY AND SELL"(Revelation 13:17) their evil doctrines for "MONEY".
(Jude 11. Revelation 13:17).

"and he('Paul')provides that no one will be able to BUY OR SELL, except the one who has the mark (the 'cross'), or the name of the beast or the number of his name.
(Revelation 13:17. Matthew 25:9,10)
"THE DEALERS...FOR PAY"
(Matthew 25:9,10. Jude 11)




'PAUL' USED DECEIT IN HIS APPOINTMENT OF CHRISTIAN MINISTERS




In order to justify his appointment of 'APOSTLES and PROPHETS, pastors, teachers etc ', 'Paul CHANGED OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE.

The words of PSALM 68:18 read "HE (ALMIGHTY GOD) RECEIVED gifts FROM men" (Psalm 68:18, 29)

'Paul' TOOK AWAY FROM the words of Psalm 68:18 by seeking to change them to read "he GAVE gifts TO men" (Ephesians 4:8)

'Paul' also TOOK AWAY FROM the words of Psalm 68:18 by TAKING AWAY the words "THE LORD"(GOD, THE FATHER)(Psa. 68:4,5) and seeking to apply them to someone else.



PAUL'S HATRED OF THE POOR AND NEEDY



The devil 'Paul' commands his Christian followers: "If anyone among you leads a vagabond life HE MUST BE LEFT TO STARVE...HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM...LET THEM EAT THEIR OWN BREAD" (2 Thessalonians 3:6-12 Ronald Knox Roman catholic 1955 Trans.)



THE ANGELS OF THE DEVIL ' PAUL '.



YESHUA(JESUS) THE MESSIAH WARNED
"MANY WILL COME USING MY NAME SAYING:
'I AM THE MESSIAH, RABBI, PASTOR, TEACHER'
(Matthew 24:5. Matthew 23:8,10)




JESUS CALLED THEM " THE TARES, SONS OF THE EVIL ONE " `
(Matt. 13:38).
" SATAN'S ANGELS were cast out FROM HEAVEN to the earth with SATAN"
(Revelation 12:9)
"UNGODLY MEN ...WHO LONG AGO WERE DESIGNATED FOR THIS CONDEMNATION"
(Jude 4)
"DEMONS...UNCLEAN SPIRITS...FOUL AND HATEFUL BIRDS"
(Revelation 18:2).

'PAUL' BOASTED THAT HE WAS THE FATHER OF DEMONS

"For I BECAME YOUR FATHER"
(1 Corinthians 4:15)


(Jude 1:19)

'Paul' himself gave them titles:


" Apostles and prophets, fathers, pastors, evangelists and teachers...bishops, deacons,exorcists, miracle workers, speakers in unknown languages, administrators etc "
(Eph 4:11. Phil. 1:1. 1 Corinthians 4:15).



These can be found within the *TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND* CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS and bearing the following diabolical titles:



Popes, cardinals, patriarchs, moderators, monsignors,apostles, prophets,fathers, pastors, teachers, evangelists, bishops, deacons, miracle workers, speakers in unknown tongues, exorcists, administrators etc.

(** NOTE: Barrett's " World-wide Encyclopedia of Christianity " records in the 1988 edition:
" In Christianity there are in the region of 28,000 ( YES! Twenty Eight Thousand ) different denominations "('FACTIONS'); and further describes this as " Sectarianism run riot ". This encyclopedia also makes the following ****ing statement:
"(the members of)these distinct denominations ALL HATE ONE ANOTHER".)



'PAUL' AND HIS CHRISTIAN MINISTERS SHUT UP THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN AGAINST MEN

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JESUS said " They neither go in themselves nor do they allow those who want to enter from going in "
(Matt. 23:13)

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THE JUDGEMENT UPON THE DEVIL PAUL AND HIS CHRISTIAN FELLOW WORKERS



THE SON OF MAN, JESUS THE MESSIAH (CHRIST)
THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON
OF THE LIVING AND ONLY TRUE GOD GOD, THE FATHER
IS NOW SEATED ON HIS GLORIOUS THRONE
AS


" KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS "
(Matthew 25:31. 16:16. John 17:3. Revelation 19:16)
" DIVINELY APPOINTED JUDGE OF THE LIVING AND THE DEAD"


(John 5:22. Acts 10:42)

JESUS NOWCOMMANDS
THE DEVIL 'PAUL' AND HIS ANGELS



"DEPART FROM ME YOU WORKERS OF LAWLESSNESS, I NEVER KNEW YOU.
DEPART FROM ME YOU WHO ARE CURSED, INTO THE EVERLASTING FIRE
PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS.
FOR I WAS HUNGRY AND YOU GAVE ME NOTHING TO EAT;
I WAS THIRSTY AND YOU GAVE ME NOTHING TO DRINK;
I WAS A STRANGER AND YOU DID NOT INVITE ME IN;
I WAS NAKED AND YOU DID NOT CLOTHE ME;
I WAS SICK AND IN PRISON AND YOU DID NOT VISIT ME.



THESE WILL GO AWAY INTO EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT"
(Matt 7:23. Matthew 13:42.and 25:41-43,46.Jude 13).

" WOE TO YOU, SCRIBES AND PHARISEES, HYPOCRITES,
BECAUSE YOU SHUT OFF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN FROM PEOPLE;
FOR YOU DO NOT ENTER IN YOURSELVES,
NOR DO YOU ALLOW THOSE WHO ARE ENTERING TO GO IN "
(Matthew 23:13)




THE PLACE OF THE JUDGEMENT

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" Then JESUS' disciples asked Him WHERE?...
(Luke 17:37)

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JESUS answered " wherever the dead body lies THERE will the VULTURES be gathered together ".
(Luke 17:37)


THE DEVIL 'PAUL' AND HIS CHRISTIAN FELLOW WORKERS(ANGELS)are THE VULTURES referred to by JESUS.
These ASSEMBLIES OF THE DEVIL 'PAUL' are BOUND IN BUNDLES TO BE BURNED.
AT the command of the DEVIL 'PAUL', these BUNDLES have been DIVIDED up into 'FACTIONS '
" There MUST also be FACTIONS AMONG YOU "
(1 Cor. 11:19).



THESE " FACTIONS " or CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS have resulted in their DELUDED FOLLOWERS being "DIVIDED UP FOR MONEY and HATING ONE ANOTHER "
(Jude 11,19. Matt 24:10,12.)



Within the following" FACTIONS " of Christianity.,


Roman catholic, Greek, Coptic and Russian orthodox, Anglican, Calvinist, Lutheran, Churches of christ, Seventh day adventists, Congregational, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Pentecostals, Assemblies of god, Apostolic assemblies, Victory outreach assemblies, C.O.R.E. assemblies, Exclusive and non-exclusive Brethren assemblies, together with in excess of *TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND*' Evangelical ' FACTIONS which are found within christianity.

(** NOTE: Barrett's " World-wide Encyclopedia of Christianity " records in the 1988 edition:
" In Christianity there are in the region of 28,000 ( YES! Twenty Eight Thousand ) different denominations "('FACTIONS'); and further describes this as " Sectarianism run riot ". This encyclopedia also makes the following ****ing statement:
"(the members of)these distinct denominations ALL HATE ONE ANOTHER".)

" BABYLON THE GREAT
(Roman Catholicism)...
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS
(Thousands of christian denominations )...
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS
(Blasphemous names, titles and practices)...
OF THE EARTH"
(Revelation 17:5)
"BABYLON THE GREAT, IS FALLEN, IS FALLEN; SHE HAS BECOME A DWELLING PLACE OF DEMONS A HAUNT OF EVERY UNCLEAN SPIRIT AND A HAUNT OF EVERY UNCLEAN AND HATEFUL BIRD "
(Revelation 18:2)




ALMIGHTY GOD, THE FATHER OF JESUS CHRIST,URGENTLY CALLS TO HIS PEOPLE TRAPPED WITHIN THESE " CHRISTIAN FACTIONS "

" COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM (by REPENTING AND BELIEVING THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM) MY PEOPLE LEST, YOU TAKE PART IN THEIR SINS AND THAT YOU DO NOT RECEIVE OF THEIR PLAGUES..."
(Revelation 18:4).


WHO ARE

THE APOSTLES OF JESUS CHRIST ?

THE NAMES OF THE TWELVE APOSTLES OF JESUS CHRIST ARE THESE:
(Matthew 10:2. Revelation 21:14)



(1) SIMON who is called PETER and (2) ANDREW his brother
(3) JAMES the son of Zebedee and (4) JOHN his brother
(5) PHILIP and (6) BARTHOLOMEW
(7) THOMAS and (8) MATTHEW the publican
(9) JAMES the son of Alphaeus and
(10)JUDE the brother of James
(11)SIMON the canaanite and (12) MATTHIAS who replaced Judas
(Matthew 10:2-4. Acts 1:13,26)

THESE TWELVE NAMES ARE THE ONLY NAMES OF THE TWELVE APOSTLES OF THE LAMB
RECORDED IN HEAVEN
" AND THE WALL HAD TWELVE FOUNDATION STONES, AND ON THEM WERE THE TWELVE NAMES OF OF THE TWELVE APOSTLES OF THE LAMB"
(REVELATION 21:14)
and acknowledged by DISCIPLES OF JESUS everywhere.



THE QUALIFICATIONS OF A TRUE APOSTLE



The QUALIFICATIONS of a TRUE APOSTLE OF JESUS CHRIST were spelled out by THE APOSTLE PETER, when a successor to Judas was appointed:

" Therefore of these men who have accompanied us ALL THE TIME that the Lord Jesus went in and out amongst us; BEGINNING FROM THE BAPTISM OF JOHN until that SAME DAY WHEN HE WAS TAKEN UP FROM US, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of HIS RESURRECTION"
(Acts 1:21,22 ).



THIS DIVINE TEST WAS APPLIED BY THE DISCIPLES AT EPHESUS
WHICH PROVED
THAT PAUL, BARNABAS, TIMOTHY, SILVANUS and OTHERS
WERE
FALSE APOSTLES AND LIARS
(Revelation 2:2)

THESE LIARS FAILED TO MEET THE TEST SET BY PETER

THIS SAME TEST PROVES THAT EVERY POPE AND OTHERS WHO CLAIM THAT THEY ARE APOSTLES

ARE ALSO LIARS

There are those who will vehemently defend the inerrancy of the Word of God and then completely ignore HOW it was compiled, filtered, and put together by pagans!

The Council of Nicea in 325 in Rome DECIDED for us what books would be included and what would be official church doctrine. Constantine was the ultimate approver or disprover, not a Spirit led born again believer in Jesus! Most will claim Constantine was a believer, what they don't tell you is that Constantine didn't convert until he was on his deathbed! Which means the early church majority did nothing as a pagan compiled and TOLD US what doctrine was true or false!

It is the duty of every believer in Y'hoshua Jesus to go back and learn what the truth really is before Constantine corrupted the church!

Pray for truth in all things daily and seek Yah for the truth!! Not man!!

Jesus said..

Hereafter I will not talk much with you, for the prince of this world comes and has nothing in me. The thief comes not but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in Truth, because there is no Truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it." Mark 4.15, John 14.30, John 10.10, & John 8.44.

The following list cites some of the ways that Paul fulfills the role of Satan-in-the-flesh who comes immediately and takes away the Word of God that was sown in man's heart:

1. Paul came on the heels of our Lord when the disciples had just begun doing the works of spreading the Word that God had set before them. Paul's assaults against, and imprisonment of, the Lord's disciples then snatched the Truth away from the people who had only begun to hear Truth spoken through those imprisoned disciples.
2. After Paul's conversion, his distortion of the Lord's Doctrine taught by the disciples immediately following the disciples' works stole the Truth away from the people who had heard what the disciples had said but then trusted Paul's lies.
3. When Paul started preaching, he infuriated people so severely that they wanted to murder him. By distracting people's attention away from hearing and adhering to the Word of God, Paul was snatching the Truth away from them.
4. By the time the Lord's disciples had figured out that Paul was a heavy-duty bad guy, it was too late. Christianity's founder, Paul had already become firmly enmeshed in the Christian mind as being the Lord's greatest apostle. Thus, even though Peter and James wrote the letter confronting Paul's apostasy, Satan had already taken the Truth away from the Christians. Christian leaders destroyed the letter, and adamently defended Paul's apostasy. In doing so, the Christian fathers were asserting that Paul was superior to Peter, and that Paul, not Peter, was the rock upon whom the Lord built His church.
5. When the Bible was printed into the form of one book, Paul's writings were inserted to the right of the Gospel. All the people who studied the Gospel and received it, but then turned to Paul's dogma and trusted it as being authentically of God, had the Truth taken away from them by Satan Paul's horrendous misinterpretations and misapplications of the Gospel.
6. When we go to a Christian church and hear the Word of God spoken, the vast majority of times the priest or preacher will then attempt to interpret and override the Truth spoken by Jesus with Paul's blasphemous dogmanure. The people who then trust their priests and preachers to be telling God's Truth immediately experience Satan taking away their understanding of the Word of God from them.
7. Some of the words that the Spirit of the Son of man spoke to the Old Testament prophets have been lost, polluted, twisted, and distorted by false interpretations of their writings. Such is especially true of David's psalms. Wherever the Christian scribes and translators did not understand what was being said, they inserted words that had not been written by the prophets at all, and they did so from the position of applying Paul's dogma to the prophets' writings. Therein was Paul again the primary source of having the Truth snatched away from people.

Read Acts of the Antichrist

In his first letter to his Corinthian followers, 'Paul'dared to quote from the The Prophet Jeremiah "JUST AS IT IS WRITTEN, LET HIM WHO BOASTS, BOAST IN THE LORD."(1 Corinthians 1:31).

The Prophet Jeremiah writes "But LET HIM WHO BOASTS, BOAST OF THIS, that he understands and knows ME, that I am THE LORD who exercises lovingkindness, justice and righteousness on earth; for I delight in these things," declares the LORD"(Jeremiah 9:24)

'Paul'dared to call on his 'god' SATAN,to assist him in "TRAMPLING" on "THE WORD OF THE LORD"(written in Jeremiah 9:24)

"But god forbid that I should BOAST in ANYTHING, but ONLY in the CROSS"(Galations 6:14).





With this BLASPHEMOUS 'boast', the devil and false apostle 'Paul' introduced, to mankind, "THE CROSS", as "THE MARK OF THE BEAST" (Rev 19:20).

'PAUL' MISQUOTED PSALM 68:18 to MAKE WAY FOR THE MANY ANTICHRISTS.
The devil and false apostle 'Paul' MISQUOTED the words of PSALM 68:18, in his infamous letter to the Ephesians where he TOOK AWAY FROM the words of 68:18 which read "HE (GOD,THE FATHER) RECEIVED gifts FROM among men" (Verse 18).
The devil 'Paul' CHANGED THE WORDS OF PSALM 68:18 to read "he('another jesus') GAVE gifts TO men" (Ephesians 4:8) to justify his appointment of "THE TARES, THE CHILDREN OF THE EVIL ONE" (Matthew 13:25,38).

'PAUL' THE FATHER OF THE TARES
"THE EVIL ONE" 'Paul' gave assurances to his "TARES" that he was their father by writing to them "I (Paul) BECAME YOUR FATHER THROUGH the gospel which I preach" (1 Corinthians 4:15)



THE 'TARES' OF CHRISTIANITY REVEALED

'Paul' himself gave them titles:

" Apostles and prophets, fathers, pastors, evangelists and teachers...bishops, deacons,exorcists, miracle workers, speakers in unknown languages, administrators etc "
(Eph 4:11. Phil. 1:1. 1 Corinthians 4:15).

These can be found within the *TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND* CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS and bearing the following diabolical titles:

Popes, cardinals, patriarchs, moderators, monsignors, apostles, prophets, fathers, pastors, teachers, evangelists, bishops, deacons, miracle workers, speakers in unknown tongues, exorcists, administrators, priests, sisters, nuns, clergy, clergymen, 'christian brothers' etc.

Paul said, “For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?” This is the kind of man that Christianity was based on? The whole law concerning Christianity hangs on the words of a man who lied to get your loyalty? He altered the teachings of Jesus Christ as well as remitted the laws of the Prophets (Matthew 5:17-18) He said over and over that it was ok to lie to get people to believe what you were preaching/teaching! Then he couldn't get it! He was complaining of being judged as a sinner even if his lying was "meant" to produce good!" What Good comes from lying? Jesus said all liars would have their part in the Lake of Fire!" Now who's right? Jesus or Paul?


'PAUL' wrote "Let him who BOASTS, boast of THE LORD" (1 Corinthians 1:31); which is a quotation from the Prophet Jeremiah where ALMIGHTY GOD commands those who love HIM:
"but let him who boasts BOAST of this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am the LORD who exercises lovingkindness, justice and righteousness on earth; for I delight in these things," declares the LORD" (Jeremiah 9:24)

'Paul' then TRAMPLED ON THE above word.
He ('Paul) dared to call on his 'god'SATAN to prevent him (Paul) from obeying the command of ALMIGHTY GOD; when he (Paul) wrote "But god forbid that I should BOAST ONLY IN THE CROSS" (Galations 6:14)

'Paul' TRAMPLED on the word written by the Prophet Jeremiah by EXALTING 'the cross' above "ALMIGHTY GOD" (Jer (9:24).
'PAUL' and his christian followers have, over the last two thousand years, EXALTED "THE ABOMINATION",'the cross' above "ALMIGHTY GOD".
Yeshua (Jesua) the Messiah declares that "WHAT IS EXALTED AMONG MEN IS AN ABOMINATION IN THE SIGHT OF GOD"(Luke 16:15).
Yeshua (Jesus) further pointed out that this EXALTATION OF 'the cross' is "THE ABOMINATION WHICH DESOLATES, STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE (IN THE PLACE OF THE HOLY FATHER) spoken by the Prophet Daniel".

"The devil 'Paul' and his angels (Matthew 13:25,39. 25:46), reject the DIVINELY APPOINTED RULE OF YESHUA THE MESSIAH by declaring
"WE DO NOT WANT THIS MAN (YESHUA) TO RULE OVER US"(Luke 19:14).

These "UNGODLY"(Psalm 1:5), self proclaimed, teachers, proclaim the LIE that "YESHUA (JESUS) IS NOT THE PROPHET, MESSIAH, THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF THE ONLY TRUE GOD, THE FATHER" (Deut 18:15-22. Isaiah 9:6. Psalm 2:7. John 3:16. John 17:3).

The self confessed "ungodly" followers of the devil 'Paul' believe his lying claim to being "the son of God", when he wrote:
"god was pleased to reveal his son in me (Paul)"(Galations 1:7).

In fulfilment of the prophecy and warning of YESHUA THE MESSIAH, 'Paul' and his fellow "demons"(Matthew 13:38(b).Rev 16:14. 18:2) "showed signs and wonders"(Acts 15:12) in order to try and "deceive, if possible" the elected twelve apostles and disciples of Yeshua" (Matthew 24:24).

'PAUL' GATHERED "THE TARES" TOGETHER IN ANTIOCH
In fulfilment of the prophetic warning of YESHUA (JESUS), the devil 'Paul' and his christian fellow workers first GATHERED THEMSELVES TOGETHER in ANTIOCH before the "generation" still living at the time of Yeshua had "passed away",(Matthew 24:34).

They very quickly travelled "Around on sea and land" (Matthew 23:15) to make more "disciples of 'Paul'(Acts 9:19. 11:26) and made them "twice as much a son of hell"(Matthew 23:15).

Even as the "Gospel of the kingdom was being preached as a witness concerning YESHUA (JESUS), to all nations" (Matthew 24:14); even then, in the lifetime of "this generation" of the twelve apostles (Matthew 24:34), "the end came" (Matthew 24:34) when "THE DEVIL and FALSE APOSTLE 'PAUL' and his children "THE TARES" the popes and clergy of Christianity preached 'another jesus' and another gospel'.






For the last two thousand years Christians have "EXALTED" 'the cross' on top of their places worship; have introduced a special feast day called 'The feast of the exaltation of the cross' when christians worship and kiss 'the cross'; have worn an image of 'the cross' around their necks as a superstitious talisman to 'ward off evil'; BOAST that they "are saved by 'the cross' etc, etc.

The Christian followers receive 'THE SIGN OF THE CROSS' "ON their RIGHT HANDS and on their FOREHEADS".
This SIGN OF 'THE CROSS' is "THE MARK OF THE BEAST" (Revelation 13:16)

BABYLON THE GREAT


Having appointed the "TARES" and EXALTED 'the cross' "IN THE PLACE OF GOD,THE FATHER", Christianity, moved its headquarters to ROME, BABYLON THE GREAT (Rev 17:5) when 'Paul' "WENT AWAY " (Matthew 13:25) to "ROME" as Yeshua (Jesus) prophesied.

'Paul' "WENT AWAY" to "BABYLON(ROME)".

ANTI-SEMITISM and 'ANOTHER jesus and ANOTHER gospel
'Paul' accomplished this "ESCAPE FROM JUSTICE FOR PREACHING ANTISEMITISM"(Acts 25:8) and preaching 'Another jesus' and 'another gospel'(2 Corinthiands 11:4),with the assistance of HEROD who arranged to have 'Paul' shipped to ROME under the pretext of being "a prisoner".


Upon his arrival in ROME, "THE DRAGON"(Rev 16:13) 'Paul' was provided by Caesar,with a luxurious villa, from which he supervised, marshalled and disciplined his evil workers.

Whilst in ROME 'Paul' was also provided, by Caesar, with a Roman "soldier" (Acts 28:16) for his protection.

'Paul's' Papal successors, many taking the name of 'Paul' at their coronation as 'pope', have headed up the twenty eight thousand denominations of Christianity, founded by 'Paul' in ANTIOCH, for the last two thousand years.

Whereas 'Paul' was provided with one "soldier" for his protection, every pope, also known as "THE BEAST" (Rev 16:13),is provided with a large contingent of soldiers, known as 'The Vatican Guard'.

The papal "BEASTS" have over the last two thousand years, just like 'Paul', taken the name 'pope-papa' which is the latin word for 'father' and 'vicar of christ' which means 'instead of Christ'.

Like 'Paul' these popes, blaspheme THE NAME of YHWH and THE NAME of YESHUA, THE MESSIAH; WHO ARE SEATED ON MOUNT ZION; by taking to themselves the NAMES "Holy Father" and "vicar of Christ", at their coronation.

As a result "THE WHOLE WORLD ARE AMAZED AS THEY FOLLOW THE DRAGON 'PAUL'; THE PAPAL BEASTS OF ROME, WHO SUCCEEDED 'PAUL' AND THE MANY CHRISTIAN ANTICHRISTS WHO BEWITCH THEIR FOLLOWERS" (REVELATION 13:3))

'ANOTHER JESUS'preached by 'Paul'and his Christian ministers.
"THE TWELVE APOSTLE OF THE LAMB preached "IN ALL THE WORLD" THE "GOOD NEWS" OF "YESHUA THE MESSIAH", whose "BODY OF FLESH WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SEE CORRUPTION AND WHO IS SEATED IN GLORY, AT THE FATHER'S RIGHT HAND, IN HEAVEN " (Revelation 21:14. Luke 24:39. Acts 2:31. Matthew 26:64. Psalm 110:1).
Some twenty years after the "TWELVE APOSTLES OF THE LAMB, THE SONS OF GOD, THE FATHER" first began preaching "THE GOOD NEWS OF THE KINGDOM" (Matthew 24:14), the "DEVIL 'Paul' and "HIS ANGELS, THE SONS OF SATAN "(Matthew 13:38, 25:46) preached "another (disembodied) jesus with NO flesh and blood" (2 Corinthians 11:4. Acts 22:9. 1 Corinthians 15:20).

'A DIFFERENT GOSPEL'preached by 'Paul'
Instead of "THIS GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM PREACHED BY THE TWELVE APOSTLES OF THE LAMB IN ALL THE WORLD"(Matthew 24:14. 26:13), the "devil 'Paul' and his angels, by their own admission,preach "a different gospel...promting "LAWLESSNESS" (Jude 4)by saying that, according to 'Paul's' gospel "all things are lawful"(2 Corinthians 11:4. 1 Corinthians 10:23).
This ANTI-CHRIST 'Paul' and his "MANY ANTI-CHRISTS", warned of by Yeshua are the "UNGODLY PERSONS PERVERTING THE GRACE OF OUR GOD INTO LAWLESSNESS" (Jude 4) and "LEADING MANY ASTRAY" (Matthew 24:4,5). for the last tWO THOUSAND YEARS







THE TRUE GOSPEL and THE FALSE 'gospel '.
(Luke 1:50. 23:40. Revelation 14:6,7)

THE TRUE ETERNAL GOSPEL
IS THE GOSPEL FOR THOSE "WHO FEAR GOD"
PREACHED BY YESHUA (JESUS) OF NAZARETH
AND BY THE TWELVE APOSTLES
OF YESHUA THE MESSIAH (JESUS CHRIST)


"...them also who shall believe in me THROUGH THEIR WORD".
(John 17:20)
"FEAR GOD AND GIVE HIM GLORY"


" FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD
THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON
THAT WHOEVER
BELIEVES
THAT YESHUA (JESUS) OF NAZARETH
IS THE MESSIAH (CHRIST)
THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, THE FATHER,
THAT PERSON
WILL NOT PERISH
BUT HAVE
EVERLASTING LIFE "
(Revelation 14:6. Luke 1:50. John 3:16. Matthew 16:16. John 17:3. John 20:31)

YESHUA (JESUS)THE MESSIAH AND THE TWELVE APOSTLES OF THE LAMB
PREACHED THIS
THE ONLY TRUE ETERNAL GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM.


(Mark 1:15. Matthew 24:14. John 17:20)


THIS IS THE ONLY ETERNAL GOSPEL
OR GOOD NEWS
FROM HEAVEN.
(Matthew 21:25. John 17:20)

WHICH GOD,THE FATHER,CALLS UPON EVERYONE WHO "FEARS GOD", TO " BELIEVE "
(Luke 1:50. Deuteronomy 18:15. John 20:31).
TO RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE and THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS
(John 20:31. 1 John 5:1)


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THE FALSE 'gospel'

WARNED AGAINST BY YESHUA (JESUS) THE TRUE MESSIAH (CHRIST), AND HIS TWELVE APOSTLES



" For false Christs, and false prophets,will arise and will show great signs and wonders; so that, if it were possible, they would deceive the very elect"
(Matthew 24:24)
" For certain men have crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, UNGODLY MEN, turning the grace of our God into liscentiousness, even denying the only Lord God (The Father), and our Lord Jesus Christ(The Only Begotten son of the Father)."
(Jude 1:4)


PREACHED BY THE DEVIL AND FALSE APOSTLE 'PAUL' AND HIS ANGELS


(Matthew 13:25-50)
TO THOSE WHO HAVE "NO FEAR OF GOD" (Romans 3:18).
This FALSE 'gospel' is summed up in the LIES preached by the devil'Paul' and his "UNGODLY" Christian ministers and summarised in Chapter 15 verses 1-8 in 'Paul's' first infamous letter to the "UNGODLY" (Jude 4) Corinthians.





THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF THE "LIAR" 'Paul'


FIRST LIE: PERVERTING THE GRACE OF OUR GOD




'Paul' wrote the LIE to those "Who HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD" (Romans 3:18); "For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for OUR sins, the sins of the UNGODLY" (1 Cor 15:3. Romans 5:6).



The Word of God as recorded in Psalm 1 and Jude 4 emphasise that:
"THE UNGODLY ARE LIKE THE CHAFF WHICH THE WIND DRIVES AWAY"
"THE UNGODLY WILL NOT STAND IN THE JUDGEMENT "
"UNGODLY MEN (Who HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD), SECRETLY CREPT IN PERVERTING THE GRACE OF OUR GOD INTO LICENTIOUSNESS"
(Psalm 1:4,5 Jude 4)

SECOND LIE: RESURRECTION APPEARANCES


'Paul' wrote the LIE "that Christ (first)appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve" (1 Cor. 15:5).




The Word of God as recorded in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John emphasise that Yeshua (Jesus) the Messiah "FIRST" appeared to "THE WOMEN" (Matthew 28:9. Mark 16:9. Luke 24:10. John 20:14,15)
It is not therefore surprising that 'Paul' and his Christian ministers despise and hate women and treat them as second class citizens


THIRD LIE:


'Paul' wrote the LIE "After that he appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time" ( 1 Cor. 15:6)



The apostle Peter testifies that "the number of names ALTOGETHER were about a hundred and twenty disciples" (Acts 1:15)

FOURTH LIE: YESHUA , THE MESSIAH DID NOT APPEAR TO 'Paul'


'Paul' wrote the LIE "and last of all, as to one untimely born, he appeared to me also" (1 Cor. 15:8)



Luke together with 'Paul's' own testimony confirms that 'Paul' DID NOT SEE THE RISEN YESHUA (JESUS) but "SAW A DISEMBODIED LIGHT" (Acts 9:3. 22:9)



THIS FALSE 'gospel' THE EVIL FRUIT OF THE DEVIL 'PAUL' AND HIS ANGELS COMES FROM THE BOTTOMLESS PIT OF HELL
(Matthew 13:25,38,39. Revelation 9:2)

A female who was raised in Christianity, has been taught that:

• We could never be good enough to serve God. And if we do it should be privately at home barefoot and pregnant and scrubbing floors!
• What we think and feel doesn't matter! We're just to be slaves to men and that's that!.
• We ought not to express emotions of anger, because a self-assertive female was a sinner.
• I was only here on earth to serve the wants and needs of others, especially those of my husband, children, parents, and inlaws.

Is that what Jesus taught? No!!

God does not condone preferential treatment granted to or by any humans including His prophets. Equal rights, equal access, equal freedoms, protections, and opportunities under the law are commanded by God to all people everywhere in the world regardless of race, gender, age, status, OR level of Spirituality.

Read what Jesus really taught about discrimination, this prophet hits it right on the head!

666 in Hebrew Means....

"Fear God, and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come; worship Him who made the heaven and the earth and sea and springs of waters."
"Opening his mouth, Peter said: "I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality,
but in every nation the man who fears Him and does what is right is welcome to Him".
(Acts 10:34, 35)

they say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan
Paul the First Heretic
the excommunication of Paul
Paul, apostle or heretic?
James, Paul, and the Dead Sea Scrolls

Links From Others:
Read Acts of the Antichrist

Paul's Epistle to the Romans Exposed

Ephesians

Philippians
Colossians
although the above links were not written by me, she hits it right on the head! Read how a recovering alcoholic finds Jesus and is shown the truth about Paul! Humorous at times, it's packed with information! I dont' agree with everything these sites say, but they hit Paul on the head and reveal who and what he really was.

Ok, so now you're wondering if any of this is really true. When Yah kept leading me to this there were many times I had my doubts. So I know what you're going through and thinking. Yah kept bringing several of the points made on this website to my mind. He led me to people and places and books for a long time before I finally accepted it as the self evident truth that it is. Some of the facts He kept bringing to my mind during times of doubt and questioning and prayer were these: 1. There are three different accounts of Paul's testimony of the Damascus Road Revelation that we know of in the Scriptures (probably many more that we don't even know of), the very words out of Paul's mouth. All 3 were different accounts of the same event. These weren't translation errors, they were different stories of the same event as told by PAUL. Why the differences? Because Liars can't keep up with the truth. The Apostles didn't believe Paul's story and we shouldn't either.
2. After this "divine revelation" Paul disappeared for 2 years into the wilderness to receive more and more revelations. There were never any accounts listed anywhere from any of the soldiers or witnesses who were there to confirm that this event really happened. He never sought the disciples or to learn from them Yah's ways and teachings directly from the men who knew Yah the most. He claimed by divine revelation the very falsehood that almost got him excommunicated from the church completely! He argued with the apostles that circumcision was no longer necessary and in Jesus would profit them nothing when circumcision was a command, a sign of the covenant Yah made with Israel! To escape excommunication, Paul relented and stopped preaching his falsehood on circumcision. In other words, Paul's revelation wasn't so divine when it was held up and scrutinized in God's Word. Paul was exposed for the fraud and liar he was! And instead of dealing with him once and for all the disciples "swept him under the rug."
I don't think any of the apostles realized at the time how dangerous this Paul was going to be to the church today. When they visited cities and towns Paul had preached in, they spent their time undoing the damage Paul did and setting the people straight on doctrine. In fact it got so bad the entire area of Asia completely rejected Paul! They didn't even want to see him! When he was thrown in prison in Rome the people wouldn't even visit him!
Yet, almost half of the New Testament today are books Paul wrote. Hindsight..would have been nice. But Yah allowed it to serve His own purposes. Just as He allowed the serpent to bequile Eve in the garden of Eden.
How many preachers today have "divine revelations" and have introduced false, heretical, and blasphemous teachings and doctrines into the churches?
Now you know where it started.
3. Some will say that through translations Paul's words were twisted and he was made to look bad by the transcribers themselves. For this, I refer you to point #1 and #2.

Just Give Me The Truth - Home

all the best

[mkh4JC]

That's an awful lot to read through. I'm going to respond to some of these allegations and hopefully you'll realize if these suppositions are wrong then at the very least whoever wrote this piece is taking a lot of things out of context.

" I (Paul) am fully convinced NO FOOD is UNCLEAN in itself "
(Romans 14:14)

THIS EVIL TEACHING IS IN BLATANT DISREGARD FOR THE COMMAND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE TWELVE APOSTLES
" For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than THESE NECESSARY THINGS:
That you ABSTAIN FROM MEATS offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled and from fornication..."
(Acts 15:28:29)
" But I (Jesus) have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a STUMBLING BLOCK before the children of Israel, TO EAT THINGS SACRIFICED TO IDOLS "
(Revelation 2:14)

Where's the contradiction here? Paul is saying that all food in and of itself is clean, but if we are eating said food as an offering to idols then it becomes unclean. Paul warns in one of his epistles NOT to eat anything offered to an idol.

" JESUS came to Galilee PREACHING THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM "
(Mark 1:14, Matt.4:23).
JESUS said " THIS GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM will be PREACHED, IN MY NAME in all the world
(Matt.24:14).
'PAUL' CAME preaching, by his own admission, ANOTHER GOSPEL PROMOTING LAWLESSNESS and LICENTIOUSNESSmany excerpts taken from disciplesofchrist.com

"I ('PAUL') testify to the gospel of the grace of god...ANOTHER GOSPEL...ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL "
(Acts 20:24. 2 Corinthians 11:4. 1 Corinthians 10:23).

Paul didn't preach lawlessness or licentiousness, he preached holiness, without which no man will see the Lord. This gentlemen or whoever is taking what Paul said out of context.

What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7For he that is dead is freed from sin.

8Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

9Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

10For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

11Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

12Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

13Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 17But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

18Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

19I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.

20For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

21What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

22But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 6

And just to back up Pauls teaching on holiness here's the words of Jesus himself:

'They answered him, We be Abraham's seeed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whomsoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.' St John 8:33-36.
'

'PAUL' A MURDERER


Paul BOASTED about being the persecutor of the Jews.
He NEVER Repented or sought their forgiveness.
Or God's!
JESUS said " He was a MURDERER from the beginning "
(John 8:44)
"He shall PERSECUTE the saints of The Most HIGH"
(Daniel 7:25)
"SAUL was in hearty agreement with putting Stephen to death. And on that day a GREAT PERSECUTION began against the church in Jerusalem, and they were all scattered throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles".
"But SAUL began ravaging the church, entering house after house, and dragging off men and women, he would put them in prison".
" SAUL breathing THREATS and MURDER against the disciples of The Lord "
(Acts 8:1-3. 9:1 )

Where exactly does Paul 'boast' about being a persecuter of the church? Consider this passage:

12And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

13Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

14And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

15This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

1 Timothy 1: 12-16.

'PAUL' CURSED JESUS CHRIST AND HIS APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES




" If we or an angel from heaven preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL to you than what we have preached to you LET HIM BE A CURSE"
(Gal 1:18)

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NOTE: ONLY amongst christians, in every christian home, office, workshop, place of worship, theatre, cinema, radio, television etc is "THE NOBLE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST" (James 2:7) used as " a curse " as commanded by the devil and false apostle 'Paul'.

The Gospel, as preached by all New Testament authors, is that Christ lived, died, and rose to reconcile sinful man back to a holy God. That is what Paul was referencing, not some imagined Gospel he himself came up with.

[جوري]

You should direct your grievances to your other christian denominations, since this is their finding..
I don't need you to justify paul to me.. I can't get past your three headed god dogma to accept that saul as all good and holy.. if god can't choose apostles to shoulder the responsibility after he dies, and has to do it in an occult fashion to his nemesis to send the masses into confusion, then frankly that is your cross to bear.. It doesn't affect my life in any shape or fashion!


all the best

[Grace Seeker]

You should direct your grievances to your other christian denominations, since this is their finding..

The problem that I have with such websites as you quoted is that I understand them to be about as Christian as you understand the Ahmadi to be Muslim. These groups simply aren't representative of the community of the Church to which I (and Fedos) belong nor to the Ummah to which you and all genuine Muslims belong. For us to reference either set of groups, unless they represent a viewpoint one also holds for the reasons they hold it, seems to me to just confuse the issue and about as useful as treating viruses with antibiotics.

[جوري]

The problem that I have with such websites as you quoted is that I understand them to be about as Christian as you understand the Ahmadi to be Muslim. These groups simply aren't representative of the community of the Church to which I (and Fedos) belong nor to the Ummah to which you and all genuine Muslims belong. For us to reference either set of groups, unless they represent a viewpoint one also holds for the reasons they hold it, seems to me to just confuse the issue and about as useful as treating viruses with antibiotics.

sometimes you can treat a virus with antibiotics and I won't say in which specific circumstance or why for our purposes here..
in Christianity you have many denominations-- how does one sort through them?..
we have traditional muslims (sunni) 85~90% and shiites (10~15%) literally translating to a (faction) --such cases aren't as clear cut with christianty.. surely the catholics find you as christian as you find the the Jehovah.. and it really doesn't change the fact since you don't have one unified bible, and you don't claim that it comes from God anyway that your preservation of it is better than the preservation of the catholics, or the addendum of Luther, are better than the subtraction of Paulian extras by the Jehovas .. with modification and subtraction I don't see how anyone can state, this is the only form of christianity and this one is a heretic faction .. you have no baseline yo rely upon and thus your analogy falls short!


all the best

[Grace Seeker]

sometimes you can treat a virus with
in Christianity you have many denominations-- how does one sort through them?..

Carefully.

surely the catholics find you as christian as you find the the Jehovah[Witnesses].

Actually, Catholics refer to protestants like myself who have been baptized with the same baptismal formula that they use as brothers and sisters in Christ, but they see us as seperated brethern because we don't acknowledge the authority of the Pope. And therefore, from their point of view, we are Christians outside of the body of Christ.

Those groups such as Jehovah's Witnesses and others that don't baptize "in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" would not be recognized as Christian by Catholics.

I'm not trying to minimize the problem that I agree exists in the Church with regard to the divisions that are within it. It is at the very least disconcerting and in many ways downright tragic. But unless you are telling me that you actually are willing to accept the claims of the Ahmadi as being legitimate, then my analogy still stands. You don't consider them Muslims, and I don't consider the group you referenced to be Christian -- both of us because the identified groups don't hold to what we consider the orthodox teachings of our respective faiths.

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Carefully.



Actually, Catholics refer to protestants like myself who have been baptized with the same baptismal formula that they use as brothers and sisters in Christ, but they see us as seperated brethern because we don't acknowledge the authority of the Pope. And therefore, from their point of view, we are Christians outside of the body of Christ.

Those groups such as Jehovah's Witnesses and others that don't baptize "in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" would not be recognized as Christian by Catholics.

I'm not trying to minimize the problem that I agree exists in the Church with regard to the divisions that are within it. It is at the very least disconcerting and in many ways downright tragic. But unless you are telling me that you actually are willing to accept the claims of the Ahmadi as being legitimate, then my analogy still stands. You don't consider them Muslims, and I don't consider the group you referenced to be Christian -- both of us because the identified groups don't hold to what we consider the orthodox teachings of our respective faiths.

as stated, you don't have a unified bible and you don't claim it to be from God, thus, anyone can add or subtract as 'inspired'-- The Quran has always been as is and anyone with little or much study can easily identify orthodox from heretic and subject the book itself to the test. your analogy still falls short, but you are certainly welcome to use it on your church goers, I doubt it will have much effect on any muslims for reasons mentioned!


all the best

[Grace Seeker]

your analogy still falls short, but you are certainly welcome to use it on your church goers, I doubt it will have much effect on any muslims for reasons mentioned!


all the best

I can see that it has little effect. Equally do you note how little effect references to multiple demoninations and different verisons of scripture has on most Christians?

In your first post you said

I don't see how anyone can state, this is the only form of christianity and this one is a heretic faction .. you have no baseline yo rely upon

Did you not recognize that the baseline which Catholics and Protestant (and for that matter Orthodox) Christians all agree on is our common baptism? Yep, we have disagreements about what does and does not constitute our sacred text, but despite that disagreement we don't have any disagreement about what the core content of our faith is. It is the common proclamation of Jesus as the Christ, the Son of God, and Savior of the World which is given expression in our one baptism, one faith, and one Lord.

[جوري]

I can see that it has little effect. Equally do you note how little effect references to multiple demoninations and different verisons of scripture has on most Christians?

No, not really.

In your first post you said Did you not recognize that the baseline which Catholics and Protestant (and for that matter Orthodox) Christians all agree on is our common baptism? Yep, we have disagreements about what does and does not constitute our sacred text, but despite that disagreement we don't have any disagreement about what the core content of our faith is. It is the common proclamation of Jesus as the Christ, the Son of God, and Savior of the World which is given expression in our one baptism, one faith, and one Lord.

If your baseline is a bath and not the actual scriptures then by all means, Jehovah do agree that christ is your god and savior as well sans paul!

Isaiah 43:10 “YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.”


all the best

[Grace Seeker]

Isaiah 43:10 “YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.”


all the best

And it is because there is no other savior besides this God, who we understand to have made himself known to us in the person of Jesus, the Messiah, the servant mentioned in the Isaiah passage, that we identify ourselves as belonging to him in baptism. And "this water [or bath as you called it] symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (1 Peter 3:21).

(The gospel presented sans Paul.)

[جوري]

And it is because there is no other savior besides this God, who we understand to have made himself known to us in the person of Jesus, the Messiah, the servant mentioned in the Isaiah passage, that we identify ourselves as belonging to him in baptism. And "this water [or bath as you called it] symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (1 Peter 3:21).

(The gospel presented sans Paul.)

It saves you not me, I am merely quoting you directly from the Jehovah's site, the ones you deem heretic, because they find paul equally a heretic..

all the best

[Grace Seeker]

It saves you not me

There is always hope. :statisfie

all the best

And, sincerely, I wish you the best as well. May your deem continue to grow strong and Allah lead you in all your ways. Peace, my friend.

[جوري]

There is always hope. :statisfie

There is no hope in me taking Jesus (p) for a God!

And, sincerely, I wish you the best as well. May your deem continue to grow strong and Allah lead you in all your ways. Peace, my friend.

And you :smile: