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divine_quran
12-22-2009, 02:15 PM
Written by a patriotic customs officer in Karachi.Name withheld to protect his identity.

1. Thousands of illegal immigrants return to Pakistan on a monthly basis from Middle Eastern countries, especially, UAE, Oman and Saudi Arabia.

2. Most of these travel to the Middle East illegally without visas. The route that is mainly used is :- Karachi to Iran (via CAR), Iran to Oman/UAE via boat.

3. If they are caught in the waters of Oman/UAE or on the mainland they are usually kept in detention centres for 7-21days and then sent back to their country of origin (PAKISTAN). From UAE they are sent back via Aeroplane and if they are caught in Oman they are sent back by boat.

4. Once the person is caught in UAE or Oman by local law enforcement agencies they are aked what is their country of origin.

5. If they state Pakistan as country of origin they are asked to verify this claim, when an official from the Pakistani Embassy/Consulate visits the detention centre. Once they ask the questions they issue an official document for the person to return to Pakistan. This document is officially called an OUTPASS or Temporary Passport.

6. When an official from the embassy visits they ask you for your:-

Name-

Address in Pakistan-

Details of when and how you entered UAE/Oman-

Name of Agent who took you from Pakistan-

Copy of National Identification Card-

7. The alarming thing is that even if you don’t have a National ID CARD, you are still issued with an OutPass. An interesting sentence on the OutPass states “This document is not proof that you are a Pakistani National and this is subject to verification from F.I.A (Federal Investigation Agency) at Karachi airport/seaport”.

8. Once the OutPass is issued the people are sent on the next available flight/boat to Karachi airport/Karachi port.

9. When the people reach Karachi sea port they are received by FIA agents and Karachi police.

10. They are divided into different groups according to their province of residence (i.e. Sindh, Punjab, Balochistan, NWFP).

11. Approx 12-15 FIA officers start the registration process and call people from the 4 different groups. When each individual person is called they are asked, the following questions:-

Name & Fathers name,

Date of Birth,

Address in Pakistan,

Details of when and how you entered UAE/Oman,

Name of Agent who took you from Pakistan,

Name or your local MNA / MPA,

Name of any landmarks in your city of residence,

Copy of National Identification Card.

12. With the exception of your Name, DOB and Address none of the questions are considered compulsory. And MOST ALAMRMING AGAIN is that if you do not have a copy of your ID Card your are asked to provide the ID card number or ID Card number of any family member.


IF U CANNOT DO THIS, you are abused by the FIA agent with a few urdu swear words and then told that if you don’t have a number then think of 13 digits and write that down as your ID card number or ask the person next to you for their ID card number and just change 2-3digits and you write this down as your ID Card number.

Once you have given this FAKE ID CARD Number you are taken to have computer department where these details are typed on the computer system and a photo is taken by the webcam of the computer.

THIS IS WHERE THE PROCEDURE IS COMPLETE AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO ENTER PAKISTANI SOIL WITHOUT FURNISHING ANY PASSPORT OR ID.

This is a massive security lapse and is without doubt being used by foreign terrorists to enter Pakistan. Source - Pakistan Ideology

Nawaz
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The_Prince
12-23-2009, 03:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by divine_quran
Written by a patriotic customs officer in Karachi.Name withheld to protect his identity.

1. Thousands of illegal immigrants return to Pakistan on a monthly basis from Middle Eastern countries, especially, UAE, Oman and Saudi Arabia.
2. Most of these travel to the Middle East illegally without visas. The route that is mainly used is :- Karachi to Iran (via CAR), Iran to Oman/UAE via boat.

3. If they are caught in the waters of Oman/UAE or on the mainland they are usually kept in detention centres for 7-21days and then sent back to their country of origin (PAKISTAN). From UAE they are sent back via Aeroplane and if they are caught in Oman they are sent back by boat.

4. Once the person is caught in UAE or Oman by local law enforcement agencies they are aked what is their country of origin.

5. If they state Pakistan as country of origin they are asked to verify this claim, when an official from the Pakistani Embassy/Consulate visits the detention centre. Once they ask the questions they issue an official document for the person to return to Pakistan. This document is officially called an OUTPASS or Temporary Passport.

6. When an official from the embassy visits they ask you for your:-

Name-

Address in Pakistan-

Details of when and how you entered UAE/Oman-

Name of Agent who took you from Pakistan-

Copy of National Identification Card-

7. The alarming thing is that even if you don’t have a National ID CARD, you are still issued with an OutPass. An interesting sentence on the OutPass states “This document is not proof that you are a Pakistani National and this is subject to verification from F.I.A (Federal Investigation Agency) at Karachi airport/seaport”.

8. Once the OutPass is issued the people are sent on the next available flight/boat to Karachi airport/Karachi port.

9. When the people reach Karachi sea port they are received by FIA agents and Karachi police.

10. They are divided into different groups according to their province of residence (i.e. Sindh, Punjab, Balochistan, NWFP).

11. Approx 12-15 FIA officers start the registration process and call people from the 4 different groups. When each individual person is called they are asked, the following questions:-

Name & Fathers name,

Date of Birth,

Address in Pakistan,

Details of when and how you entered UAE/Oman,

Name of Agent who took you from Pakistan,

Name or your local MNA / MPA,

Name of any landmarks in your city of residence,

Copy of National Identification Card.

12. With the exception of your Name, DOB and Address none of the questions are considered compulsory. And MOST ALAMRMING AGAIN is that if you do not have a copy of your ID Card your are asked to provide the ID card number or ID Card number of any family member.


IF U CANNOT DO THIS, you are abused by the FIA agent with a few urdu swear words and then told that if you don’t have a number then think of 13 digits and write that down as your ID card number or ask the person next to you for their ID card number and just change 2-3digits and you write this down as your ID Card number.

Once you have given this FAKE ID CARD Number you are taken to have computer department where these details are typed on the computer system and a photo is taken by the webcam of the computer.

THIS IS WHERE THE PROCEDURE IS COMPLETE AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO ENTER PAKISTANI SOIL WITHOUT FURNISHING ANY PASSPORT OR ID.

This is a massive security lapse and is without doubt being used by foreign terrorists to enter Pakistan. Source - Pakistan Ideology

Nawaz
lol, something about the above just doesnt add up, for starters the author states that the ILLEGAL FOREIGN immigrants are GOING FROM KARACHI, and are then simply sent back to Karachi. So why in the world would a FOREIGN terrorist who is already in Karachi decide to go all the way to the mid-east as an illegal immigrant only to be sent back if he was already in Pakistan?!!!!!!!!!

furthermore, foreign terrorists have more sophisticated means of illegally entering a country, lol, its called false documents and false passports or false visas, they dont have to go through this whole long entire process! they just enter the country through legal means via false documenation! Heck a foreign terrorist can even enter the country on his original legal passport and visa, and once he is in the country he will make contact with the groups, and just go join them up! and this has happened on quite a few occasions, where people have entered pakistan through legal means with their original documents, but have disappeared.

furthermore the LAST thing a foreign terrorist would want is to be in the hands of the authority, so why in the world would a terrorist lure himself into the hands of the authorities? a terrorist takes attention off himself, he wouldnt make himself an illegal immigrant so he could be in the hands of the authorities.

so its quite hard to take the above too seriously, because anyone who does their studying will know that most foreign fighters entering pakistan simply do it through false documenation, or they just get smuggled across the border, its that simple and easy, they dont have to go through this whole long process of making themself an illegal alien only to be shipped to pakistan!
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Raaina
12-23-2009, 04:32 PM
Well this might not be completely true, but I meant there is some truth in some of the points mentioned.
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