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anonymous
12-22-2009, 05:34 PM
:sl: everyone

I am a sister, and I was just wondering whether it is allowed in Islam to put up pictures on facebook?

Some of my friends say that they can make the albums private so that only our friends can see it - does that still mean we can put up the pictures or not?

If it is haram, I want to take the pictures off immediately, so please could you advise me?

Jazak Allahu Khairan
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zakirs
12-22-2009, 08:11 PM
sister salaam

In general i suggest avoid putting pictures in your album as they can be misused too :) . friends or no friends i guess its not proper to show your pics to non marham men.
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anonymous
12-22-2009, 10:26 PM
Jazak Allahu Khairan for your reply...

Yes, although all my friends are female on facebook, I agree, it is best if I don't put any pictures up on facebook.
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Beardo
12-22-2009, 11:12 PM
There was a khutbah at a local masjid just last Friday on facebook.

No, you shouldn't be putting your pictures up there.
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Hamza Asadullah
12-22-2009, 11:50 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
:sl: everyone

I am a sister, and I was just wondering whether it is allowed in Islam to put up pictures on facebook?

Some of my friends say that they can make the albums private so that only our friends can see it - does that still mean we can put up the pictures or not?

If it is haram, I want to take the pictures off immediately, so please could you advise me?

Jazak Allahu Khairan
Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, jazakallah for sharing this with us. My sister all the privacy settings in the world will never always ensure your pictures are safe from the eyes of those who should not view them. I also know of a 15 year old boy who hacked into a girls account taking her personal photo's and details. It is very easy to do so.

Here is a article i found of from a sister which is very relevant to your question:

Hijabi? Putting Pictures on Facebook?

Ever seen a Hijabi posting her most beautiful pictures on Facebook? I have. And it's completely beyond my understanding. Before everyone concludes I'm an extremist of some sort, I'll admit that I'm on Facebook too, and at some point, I have also posted my pictures up. But that's when I discovered that several months of Facebook usage still does not empower most of us with the ability to conquer the privacy settings on our profiles, if they were ever of any use to start with.

Sure, we all want to show our friends how drop dead gorgeous we were looking at some party we went to. We also want to prove to our non-Hijabi friends how we resemble those supermodels on TV when we dress up for the "Halal prom". We also want to amaze our non-Muslim female friends with the awesome hairstyles and colors under our Hijab. In all honesty, we just want to have some fun and share our exciting Kodak moments with our friends, right?

I once spoke to a fellow Hijabi about posting pictures of herself without Hijab on Facebook, MSN, and other online social networking services. She said, "I know that there will always be the possibility of non-mahrams seeing my pictures while my friends are looking at them, but it's their responsibility to take care of my Hijab, I trust them. I guess I'm just one of those girls who don't like thinking outside the box."

Pure intentions aside, since when has there been the Islamic exception of trusting others with our Hijab? And what does thinking outside the box have to do with anything? If others were trustworthy enough to take care of our Hijab, then I'd never have come across those online photos of posing Hijabis featuring the religious leader's wife without Hijab in the background.

Fortunately, 50 percent of Hijabis are wise enough to avoid posting non-Hijabi pictures on such public websites. But the number of Hijabis who make their profile pictures (which can usually be accessed by the entire Facebook network) a picture of themselves is simply overwhelming. Of course, it is technically "permissible" for non-mahrams to see us while we are in Hijab, but the majority of Hijabis are so dolled up in their display pictures that it seems as though someone forced a headscarf on the winner of America's Next Top Model.

Of course, sisters are not alone when it comes to the competition of who looks the hottest in their Facebook display picture. The brothers have been quick to catch on. Posing with their Versace sunglasses and slick t-shirts (if they are wearing one at all), down to the core of the matter, it has become a game of impressing anyone and everyone, as long as you're on Facebook.

But the photo album disease is also spreading far and wide with the adults too! The number of parents who are posting pictures of their children is absolutely terrifying. It's understandable that parents want to show off their beautiful children to their friends; however, it goes without saying that many of these parents are not exactly quite tech-savvy and not too proficient when it comes to privacy settings, thereby often leaving their children's pictures publicly accessible by any and all weirdos.

Furthermore, according to a report by the BBC, a team of researchers from Cambridge University analyzed sixteen social networking websites and discovered that some sites, including Facebook, stored photos of users and allowed them to be viewed by others, even after the user deleted them. They did this by uploading pictures and noting down the image URLs. "When checked 30 days later, these links continued to work for seven of the sites, even though a typical user might think the photos had been removed," the researchers found. Despite all the privacy settings and limitations we may try and implement to our Facebook and other online profiles, more likely than not there will always be a loophole in the system, a fact that many of us are quite oblivious to.

Another classic example of privacy settings gone wrong is adding an application or taking certain quizzes on Facebook, which give the creator access to our entire profile, including all our private photos and the "public link" on our albums, which gives anyone who has this link complete access to all our "hidden" pictures.

While there are multiple benefits of having pictures on Facebook, including "so my friends know it's me who is adding them" and "my relatives overseas want to see what I look like", it's quite a risky business. Accessible from Google, the entire process of having our pictures downloaded and saved on someone's computer takes only a few seconds. It is very possible that a Hijabi sister's cute profile picture of her having a good time with friends might very well end up in the hands of an overzealous matchmaker in the community and ogled over by dozens of boys around the globe, and vice versa.

The essence of Hijab is simple: to conceal as much as possible and only display our beauty when absolutely necessary. If Facebook profile pictures were an absolutely necessary place for Muslims girls, boys, and adults to post their most stunning and attractive pictures for the whole world to see, then I guess I've been slow to jump on the bandwagon.

So my sister no pictures should be put up anywhere on the internet for it is shaythan who is fooling the our sisters into thinking that their pictures will be safe from the eyes of non mahrams if they do privacy settings but that is very far from the truth.

Tell others sisters to that they should not be putting their pictures up on Facebook and if they are then tell them in a gentle but firm manner using wisdom and tact that they should not be doing so and that they must take them off immediatley.

A woman's Awrah is her entire body with the exception of her face and hands and according to some interpretations, her entire body including her face and hands.

A woman's Awrah must not be seen by any non-Mahram men, because exposing the Awrah is unlawful in Islam.

Prophet Muhammad, sallalahu alaihi wa sallam said:
"All of a woman is Awrah. When she leaves her home, Satan looks at her."

Reported by Imam At-Tirmidhi in his Sunan.

Here is evidence from the holy Quran that exposing any part of a woman's Awrah is haram - known or unknown, recognizable or not.

Surah an-Nur ayah 31: And say to the faithful women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their beauty except what is apparent of it, and to extend their headcoverings to cover their bosoms, and not to display their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule, or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or the small children to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet on the ground so as to make known what they hide of their adornments. And turn in repentance to Allah together, O you the faithful, in order that you are successful.

May Allah save us from all evil. Ameen
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laggitress
12-23-2009, 12:21 AM
^ Nice article :)
Another point you can look at is that when you put up a profile pic of yourself, you might have people thinking of you in ways that you wouldn't want to be thought of.
So yeah, it isn't such of a very good idea to put up any pictures of yourself on Facebook.
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Ummu Sufyaan
12-23-2009, 01:32 AM
:sl:
i dont know if face book is haram or halaal, but do you go around showing your photo albums off to everyone? i know you said your settings are on private, but its the www and you need just have to be weary in case they fall in the wrong hands.
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Humbler_359
12-23-2009, 01:42 AM
Privacy watchdog files complaint against Facebook (Dec 17 2009)

NEW YORK – A Washington-based privacy advocacy group and nine other organizations have filed a complaint against Facebook over the social network's latest privacy changes.

The Electronic Privacy Information Center said Thursday it has asked the Federal Trade Commission to look into the changes Facebook has made to its users' privacy settings and to force Facebook to restore its old privacy safeguards.

The changes, unveiled last week, include treating users' names, profile photo, friends list, gender and other data as publicly available information.

The complaint says the changes diminish user privacy by disclosing personal information to the public that was previously restricted.

Among the groups joining EPIC in its complaint are the American Library Association, the Consumer Federation of America and the Center for Digital Democracy.

Facebook said it discussed the changes with regulators, including the FTC, before making them and that it is disappointed "that EPIC has chosen to share their concerns with the FTC while refusing to talk to us about them."

This is not the first time, and likely not the last, that Facebook is challenged over how it treats the vast amounts of information it gets from its 350 million users.

This year, Canada's privacy commissioner accused the social network of disclosing personal information about users to the hundreds of thousands of outside developers worldwide who create Facebook applications. In August, Facebook agreed to give users more control over such sharing.

In September, the company finally shut down its much-maligned Beacon marketing program, which launched two years ago amid fanfare only to generate a storm of privacy complaints over the tracking of user activities at partner Web sites.

Facebook had agreed to create a foundation to promote online privacy, safety and security as part of a $9.5 million settlement in a lawsuit over the program.

The FTC confirmed it has received the complaint but had no other comment.

Source
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touba
12-23-2009, 12:53 PM
Asslamou Alaikoum Warahmatou Allah Taala Wabarakatou,

I read all your reply and all you said that putting pictures online is haram so what about the muslims marriage websites they are full of brothers pictures and sisters with hijjab and make up and even i saw these sites advertise on this forum if it is haram why they advertise for and why those brothers and sisters putting their pictures with hijjab and make up looking for husbands ?
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anonymous
12-23-2009, 02:02 PM
Jazak Allahu Khairan for everyone's reply.
I'm quite worried now:

format_quote Originally Posted by Rashad
There was a khutbah at a local masjid just last Friday on facebook.

No, you shouldn't be putting your pictures up there.
Did the sheikh/khatib say anything about facebook being haram? As in making a profile is haram overall?
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Raaina
12-23-2009, 02:41 PM
I've put my photos on facebook, maybe i should take them down :(
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zakirs
12-23-2009, 03:31 PM
I read all your reply and all you said that putting pictures online is haram so what about the muslims marriage websites they are full of brothers pictures and sisters with hijjab and make up and even i saw these sites advertise on this forum if it is haram why they advertise for and why those brothers and sisters putting their pictures with hijjab and make up looking for husbands ?
While their intention may be pure i think its impermissible to show ones pictures on matrimonial websites.Hope our brother and sisters know that :( .

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/85099/marriage%20website
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zakirs
12-23-2009, 03:38 PM
regarding facebook , i guess its same as an IM messenger as long as you don't do anything bad on it its permissible ? (can somebody advice ? )
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Esther462
12-23-2009, 03:55 PM
My muslim friends have facebook and they say it's fine to put pictures on facebook with hijab on but pictures without hijab on should only be seen by female friends can see them. My profile picture is one of the names of Allah.
I've been muslim for 2 years now and haven't done that yet. I'm going to do it now as I haven't got anything to do.
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Hamza Asadullah
12-23-2009, 08:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Esther462
My muslim friends have facebook and they say it's fine to put pictures on facebook with hijab on but pictures without hijab on should only be seen by female friends can see them. My profile picture is one of the names of Allah.
I've been muslim for 2 years now and haven't done that yet. I'm going to do it now as I haven't got anything to do.
Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, i did'nt understand what you meant by "have'nt done that yet". Have'nt done what yet?

Also sister i think you should read my last post on this thread above as it is relevant to your post. Jazakallah Khayran.
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Hamza Asadullah
12-23-2009, 08:33 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by mystical_moon
I've put my photos on facebook, maybe i should take them down :(
Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, save yourself sister and take them down.

According to a Fatwa on Islamweb.net:

It is not permissible for a woman to display her picture in her e-mail address or in any other place in a way that any man could see her as this incites men to look at her and be tempted. Allaah Says (what means): {…and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof. [Quran 24:31].

Furthermore, the Prophet said: "A woman is 'Awrah (a thing that should be covered)." [At-Tirmithi]

How could it be permissible for a woman who is described as such, and who is ordered to cover herself and be bashful to display her picture in a way that men could see her whenever they desire?

No one can guarantee that no men can see their pictures no matter what security settings they put on. Many sisters are very naive to this and it is shathan who decieves a person into thinking "It's ok don't worry theres no harm in this". But this is pure deception and shaythan only wants the destruction of mankind.
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Esther462
12-29-2009, 04:36 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza81
Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, i did'nt understand what you meant by "have'nt done that yet". Have'nt done what yet?

Also sister i think you should read my last post on this thread above as it is relevant to your post. Jazakallah Khayran.
I ment that I haven't taken my pictures without my hijab on off facebook. I've done that now. The one's I have left on there, my female friends and family can see but my male the friends and family can't see them.

Your post was intresting and very informitive. I have taken things on board.
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cat eyes
12-29-2009, 05:13 PM
i did biggest mistake of putting my pict on my msn i thought i was the only one who could see it lol and then my sis logged in one day and said ''oh sis you look nice in that hijab'' lol i could not believe it i honestly thought i was the only one who could see it i was wondering why to many brothers were adding me and sending me buttery messages lol i took it down straight away thanx to my sis for noticing it :p like i dont know what way they are making these softwares really :heated: i was mortified
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KittenLover
12-29-2009, 05:44 PM
I think sister's shouldn't put their pics up on facebook at all, there was this girl in my glass who used to wear hijaab and on her facebook she had pics without hijaab and all the boys in the class used to look at her pics on facebook.

what's the point of wearing hijaab and putting pics of yourself on facebook, especially without hijaab so men can see your hair, seems pointless to me.

all the boys started making fun of that girl saying

"she's forced to wear it by her parents probably that's why she's putting pics up on facebook without it on"

"what's the point in her wearing hijaab when men can see her on facebook without it?"

it's so stupid.
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Grofica
12-29-2009, 05:46 PM
i have facebook but the only people on it are family and 1-2 friends i have known for 10-12-15 years... i have it blocked so no one can search for my profile unless i specifically invite someone they cant even find me and then even if someone did have my profile link its locked so they cant see without adding htem to my friends list... for my main profile pic i have some random picture that i like....
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KittenLover
12-29-2009, 05:47 PM
oh and btw a girl can have her pics on private but what's to stop the girls friend from showing the pics to her brother??

or other non mehram men??

your friend could be in her house browing ur pics and her brother or dad or anyone could be standing behind her looking at your pics.

she could be in a public internet cafe or in the school class room surrounded by non mehram man and she's looking at your pics with non mehram men around who can also see the screen and the pics.

that's what happened in college, girls would look at pics on facebook and the men in the class behind them would look at the pics and the girl didn't know.
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cat eyes
12-29-2009, 05:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza81
Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, save yourself sister and take them down.

According to a Fatwa on Islamweb.net:

It is not permissible for a woman to display her picture in her e-mail address or in any other place in a way that any man could see her as this incites men to look at her and be tempted. Allaah Says (what means): {…and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof. [Quran 24:31].

Furthermore, the Prophet said: "A woman is 'Awrah (a thing that should be covered)." [At-Tirmithi]

How could it be permissible for a woman who is described as such, and who is ordered to cover herself and be bashful to display her picture in a way that men could see her whenever they desire?

No one can guarantee that no men can see their pictures no matter what security settings they put on. Many sisters are very naive to this and it is shathan who decieves a person into thinking "It's ok don't worry theres no harm in this". But this is pure deception and shaythan only wants the destruction of mankind.
brother hamza you are so right i did it by mistake but you sisters are doing it on purpose?? Allah has said in the Qur'an ''the believing women should lower there gaze and guard there modesty'' so after your creator ordering you to do this.. are you still going to go against him?? think what you are doing! and its not attractive in the eyes of any pious religious brother remember this! all you will attract is the wrong kind of man
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cat eyes
12-29-2009, 05:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by KittenLover
oh and btw a girl can have her pics on private but what's to stop the girls friend from showing the pics to her brother??

or other non mehram men??

your friend could be in her house browing ur pics and her brother or dad or anyone could be standing behind her looking at your pics.

she could be in a public internet cafe or in the school class room surrounded by non mehram man and she's looking at your pics with non mehram men around who can also see the screen and the pics.

that's what happened in college, girls would look at pics on facebook and the men in the class behind them would look at the pics and the girl didn't know.
yes exactly sis and not to forget that guys can hack into the sisters account to. its so easy
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