/* */

PDA

View Full Version : Do Muslims have Qur'an study groups?



Italianguy
12-27-2009, 04:24 AM
Let me ask a different way.....We Chritians have whats called "Bible study", where as a group of us, usually 12 too 16 meet after church or anyday we set, to discuss certian aspects of the Bible, Usually a single chapter in the Bible in depth.

I will give an example:

Every monday i go to "Bible study fellowship" for men only. They do have a womens one seperatley.

This orginazation is world wide, meets at the same time everyday all over the world (depending on time zone) and studies the same lesson everywhere. This year we are doing the book of "John".

So i was wondering if Muslims have something similar to this?

If you do, is it possible for me as a Christian to sit in? Just to listen, for purely knowledge reasons?

We actually have had a couple of Muslims, who we le sit in on our discussions just so they could learn or study. We are happy to do that with no intentions attatched.:D

If the answer is no, i understand.

Just wondering.

Thank you for your replies:D

God be with you all.

P.s. It may be a bad question, so you don't have to answer if you don't want to.
Reply

Login/Register to hide ads. Scroll down for more posts
ardianto
12-27-2009, 04:51 AM
Of course Muslims have many Qur'an study groups, but usually these are small group with 10-20 participants. And the place for Qur'an study is not always in mosque, usually in house of one participant.

And usually these groups are not mixed groups, but men only or women only.

Oops, I think I say 'usually' too much. :D
Reply

Italianguy
12-27-2009, 04:57 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
Of course Muslims have many Qur'an study groups, but usually these are small group with 10-20 participants. And the place for Qur'an study is not always in mosque, usually in house of one participant.

And usually these groups are not mixed groups, but men only or women only.

Oops, I think I say 'usually' too much. :D
Why is that saying too much?

Thats how we do it too, usually we choose a diferent participants home to meet in.

And we don't have mixed groups either.

How would i find a group to sit in with? Am i allowed to?

Can I just contact a Mosque?

Thanks for the reply:D

God be with you.

P.s. I am not looking for anybody to post personal info or addresses, so please do not do so. I would rather just find out how I could do this on my own accord. Thanks again.
Reply

YusufNoor
12-27-2009, 05:12 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Italianguy
Let me ask a different way.....We Chritians have whats called "Bible study", where as a group of us, usually 12 too 16 meet after church or anyday we set, to discuss certian aspects of the Bible, Usually a single chapter in the Bible in depth.

I will give an example:

Every monday i go to "Bible study fellowship" for men only. They do have a womens one seperatley.

This orginazation is world wide, meets at the same time everyday all over the world (depending on time zone) and studies the same lesson everywhere. This year we are doing the book of "John".

So i was wondering if Muslims have something similar to this?

If you do, is it possible for me as a Christian to sit in? Just to listen, for purely knowledge reasons?

We actually have had a couple of Muslims, who we le sit in on our discussions just so they could learn or study. We are happy to do that with no intentions attatched.:D

If the answer is no, i understand.

Just wondering.

Thank you for your replies:D

God be with you all.

P.s. It may be a bad question, so you don't have to answer if you don't want to.
so it's "Church" on Sunday, Bible Study on Monday?

you forget, we have Salaat 5 times a day. after the morning prayer, Fajr, many Masaajids have some form of lesson, whether Qur'an pronunciation, Tafseer or a study of Prayer [Salaat].

between the sunset prayer, Maghrib and the night-time prayer, Isha, there can be a set of revolving classes on different days, Tafseer on one day, Seerah on one, woman's class on another, kids or family night on another.

i reckon it wouldn't be easy for you to keep up. you know, too many prayers! maybe just ask a local Imam for some one on one time with him or someone that he suggests.

it would be easier to just take Shahadah [become a Muslim :D], attend as many prayers as you can and hit as many lectures as you can.

OR, maybe just tell us what specific area you want to look at first and we can post some lectures for you.

:wa:
Reply

Welcome, Guest!
Hey there! Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.

When you create an account, you can participate in the discussions and share your thoughts. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and make new friends.
Sign Up
ardianto
12-27-2009, 10:09 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Italianguy
Why is that saying too much?

Thats how we do it too, usually we choose a diferent participants home to meet in.

And we don't have mixed groups either.

How would i find a group to sit in with? Am i allowed to?

Can I just contact a Mosque?

Thanks for the reply:D

God be with you.

P.s. I am not looking for anybody to post personal info or addresses, so please do not do so. I would rather just find out how I could do this on my own accord. Thanks again.
Wait, I think you asked about Qur'an study group that similar with Bible study group in Christianity. I mean, recite Qur'an and study about Qur'an, hadith, Islamic knowledge. In my place Qur'an study group like this is "Majelis Ta'lim". And of course we have many "Majelis Ta'lim".

But we are really sorry, you cannot join in Majelis Ta'lim because this is only for Muslim. However, you can visit and watch as a guest.

And, where you can find Qur'an study group near your place ?. Don't ask me, bro, I am not in U.S. ;D
Reply

Abdul Fattah
12-27-2009, 10:46 AM
Hi,
I think there's one major difference though. In Islam, we have a strict set of rules on exegesis (tefsir). That means it's not allowed for muslims to explain verses from their own personal opinion. Verses of the Qur'an can only be explained by explaining a general verse with:
1) another more detailed verse on the same subject
2) hadeeth (the words prophet muhammed said)
3) literal explenation of the arabic meaning

So when a group of Muslims come together for Qur'an study, then it is either a group of students who follow a class rom a scholar, or a group of people who memorize teh qur'an toghether, or a group of people who practice the correct recitation of the qur'an. It is never a peer-to-peer group where they tell eachother their own interpretation.

Ps, if you are looking for Exegesis of the qur'an, you can find that (in english) here:
http://www.tafsir.com/
Reply

zakirs
12-27-2009, 11:13 AM
brother instead of study groups i would suggest you to pick up an english version and read it :). the fact is most muslims do their quran study at mosques when they are children and then onwards they read it by themselves or with their family. ( atleast thats the case in india )

WE have study groups here too but they are very few and private.In US it might be different. If you tell your lcoation may be we can search on the web :D.


PS: No its not a bad question , its duty to of every muslim to spread the message :)
Reply

imam bukhari
12-27-2009, 03:15 PM
my masjid has loads of classes... loads i tell u, LOOOOOOOOOOADS!

we have:

- tafsir (explanation of the quran) on thursdays
- Fiqh (rulings) on fridays
- aqeeda (islamic fundemental beliefs) on saturdays
- tajweed (reciting the quran) on wednesdays
- arabic (language) on mondays

and the sisters got their classes aswell!

anyone free to pop down.

we had a non-muslim come down a few weeks back to see how we pray.

plus we usually have like an islamic awarenes week type of thing.

i love my masjid!

ALL WELCOME!!!

hey italian dude, just pop down to ur local masjid, if they ask, just say that bearded man on the net said u can come in.... lol. (no1's gonna ask anyway - Unless ur gonna walk right in the praying area with ur shoes on!!! "Hey, vut u doing? U, take yoor shoes aaf" lol, i love the old grandads)
Reply

Italianguy
12-27-2009, 05:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by imam bukhari
my masjid has loads of classes... loads i tell u, LOOOOOOOOOOADS!

we have:

- tafsir (explanation of the quran) on thursdays
- Fiqh (rulings) on fridays
- aqeeda (islamic fundemental beliefs) on saturdays
- tajweed (reciting the quran) on wednesdays
- arabic (language) on mondays

and the sisters got their classes aswell!

anyone free to pop down.

we had a non-muslim come down a few weeks back to see how we pray.

plus we usually have like an islamic awarenes week type of thing.

i love my masjid!

ALL WELCOME!!!

hey italian dude, just pop down to ur local masjid, if they ask, just say that bearded man on the net said u can come in.... lol. (no1's gonna ask anyway - Unless ur gonna walk right in the praying area with ur shoes on!!! "Hey, vut u doing? U, take yoor shoes aaf" lol, i love the old grandads)
Dude your hilarious, I wouldn't wear my shoes;D inside. The old guys are the best.....watch out though they beat you on the head with their cane!;D.....or me for wearing shoes:hiding:
Reply

Italianguy
12-27-2009, 05:56 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by zakirs
brother instead of study groups i would suggest you to pick up an english version and read it :). the fact is most muslims do their quran study at mosques when they are children and then onwards they read it by themselves or with their family. ( atleast thats the case in india )

WE have study groups here too but they are very few and private.In US it might be different. If you tell your lcoation may be we can search on the web :D.


PS: No its not a bad question , its duty to of every muslim to spread the message :)
I have been reading the Qur'an:D My wife bought me a copy(don't get all exited, she is a Christian) It has english translation and commentary. I like it.......i will admit i was a dummy and started reading it front to back and not back to front;D
Reply

Italianguy
12-27-2009, 05:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abdul Fattah
Hi,
I think there's one major difference though. In Islam, we have a strict set of rules on exegesis (tefsir). That means it's not allowed for muslims to explain verses from their own personal opinion. Verses of the Qur'an can only be explained by explaining a general verse with:
1) another more detailed verse on the same subject
2) hadeeth (the words prophet muhammed said)
3) literal explenation of the arabic meaning

So when a group of Muslims come together for Qur'an study, then it is either a group of students who follow a class rom a scholar, or a group of people who memorize teh qur'an toghether, or a group of people who practice the correct recitation of the qur'an. It is never a peer-to-peer group where they tell eachother their own interpretation.

Ps, if you are looking for Exegesis of the qur'an, you can find that (in english) here:
http://www.tafsir.com/
We are not allowed to change, translate or use verses in the Bible as we want eiher:D
Reply

Italianguy
12-27-2009, 05:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
Wait, I think you asked about Qur'an study group that similar with Bible study group in Christianity. I mean, recite Qur'an and study about Qur'an, hadith, Islamic knowledge. In my place Qur'an study group like this is "Majelis Ta'lim". And of course we have many "Majelis Ta'lim".

But we are really sorry, you cannot join in Majelis Ta'lim because this is only for Muslim. However, you can visit and watch as a guest.

And, where you can find Qur'an study group near your place ?. Don't ask me, bro, I am not in U.S. ;D
Yes thats what i am asking

I can't just sit in one timeimsad
Reply

Italianguy
12-27-2009, 06:06 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by YusufNoor
so it's "Church" on Sunday, Bible Study on Monday?

you forget, we have Salaat 5 times a day. after the morning prayer, Fajr, many Masaajids have some form of lesson, whether Qur'an pronunciation, Tafseer or a study of Prayer [Salaat].

between the sunset prayer, Maghrib and the night-time prayer, Isha, there can be a set of revolving classes on different days, Tafseer on one day, Seerah on one, woman's class on another, kids or family night on another.

i reckon it wouldn't be easy for you to keep up. you know, too many prayers! maybe just ask a local Imam for some one on one time with him or someone that he suggests.

it would be easier to just take Shahadah [become a Muslim :D], attend as many prayers as you can and hit as many lectures as you can.

OR, maybe just tell us what specific area you want to look at first and we can post some lectures for you.

:wa:
"The force is strong in this one";D

You guys are always so inviting (" just become a Muslim Italianguy") :D

I am actually just looking for a "small group" as we call it.

But thanks for he invite (Shahadah):D

God be with you!
Reply

Italianguy
12-27-2009, 06:10 PM
Come on guys.....I promise i will be quiet....you wont even know i am there:nervous:

Annnnndddddddd..........I will bring some of my wifes famous Biryani! and Naan and Palak Paneer, anndddddddd Samosas! Everybody loveeeeesss Samosas:D






Disclaimer: All food is pork free cooked in %100 vegetable oil, and vegetarian friendly:D
Reply

imam bukhari
12-27-2009, 06:15 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Italianguy
Dude your hilarious, I wouldn't wear my shoes;D inside. The old guys are the best.....watch out though they beat you on the head with their cane!;D.....or me for wearing shoes:hiding:
lol, thank u.... u remind me of this: http://www.islamicboard.com/general/...ml#post1265626

i just poted the thread now.... hilarious story how he walked in a masjid (mosque) with his shoes on....lol

god bless ya dude
Reply

imam bukhari
12-27-2009, 06:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Italianguy
Come on guys.....I promise i will be quiet....you wont even know i am there:nervous:

Annnnndddddddd..........I will bring some of my wifes famous Biryani! and Naan and Palak Paneer, anndddddddd Samosas! Everybody loveeeeesss Samosas:D


Disclaimer: All food is pork free cooked in %100 vegetable oil, and vegetarian friendly:D
wa-aaaaaaat? did someone say samosas? hey hey, come to my masjid.... we have... ummm... lots of.... stuff!.... yeah, thats right, lost of 'stuff'. Believe me, u wanna come my masjid with those samosas...

Dont wory we aint gonna kidnap u or hold u hostage

mwah ha ha ha little does he know!
Reply

imam bukhari
12-27-2009, 06:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by imam bukhari

mwah ha ha ha little does he know!
oh crack did i say that out loud? lol
Reply

Italianguy
12-27-2009, 06:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by imam bukhari
oh crack did i say that out loud? lol
If you hold me hostage.....i can't bring anymore Samosasimsad

Then everybody loses:p

But i can bring like 20 with Tamarind chutney! and plenty of Naan:D

And .......Mango Lasi !!!!
Reply

zakirs
12-27-2009, 06:47 PM
@italian guy ; you are one funny dude :D ..

Bless your spouse for buying you a Quran . Hope all people are so accommodative :/

Any way .. do find a small group of muslims and just drop in , you will initially get weird looks but believe me , you will get a biryani feast invite within days of making friendship :D :D
Reply

Italianguy
12-27-2009, 06:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by zakirs
@italian guy ; you are one funny dude :D ..

Bless your spouse for buying you a Quran . Hope all people are so accommodative :/

Any way .. do find a small group of muslims and just drop in , you will initially get weird looks but believe me , you will get a biryani feast invite within days of making friendship :D :D
Thanks;D

It's ok, i am used to weird looks........I mean...come on...its not to often a Italian guy marries a super traditional south Indian woman:hmm:;D

I will find a group. I'm sure. I will just have to find it myself. I was just wondering if it was even allowed?
Reply

zakirs
12-27-2009, 07:36 PM
no it is totally allowed :) .. dont worry at all .. mosques are not just holy sanctuaries but they act as a community place too :). always keep a smile on ur face and every body will warmly welcome you . just say you want to learn more
Reply

Italianguy
12-27-2009, 09:30 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by zakirs
no it is totally allowed :) .. dont worry at all .. mosques are not just holy sanctuaries but they act as a community place too :). always keep a smile on ur face and every body will warmly welcome you . just say you want to learn more
LOL. I always have a smile on my face:D:D:D. Hopefully they won't think i'm some weirdo;D......or the big mafia looking dude who just walked into the Mosque;D
Reply

Abdul Fattah
12-27-2009, 11:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Italianguy
We are not allowed to change, translate or use verses in the Bible as we want eiher:D
Hi
I was a bit surprised to read that, I didn't know that. Seems like everytime I have a conversation/debate with a christian they have a different interpretation of verses and creed. Like a 100 christians have a 100 diffrent faiths. (no offence intended). So what are the rules/requirements of bible exegesis? Oh also, what denomination are you from if you don't mind me asking?
Reply

Italianguy
12-27-2009, 11:32 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abdul Fattah
Hi
I was a bit surprised to read that, I didn't know that. Seems like everytime I have a conversation/debate with a christian they have a different interpretation of verses and creed. Like a 100 christians have a 100 diffrent faiths. (no offence intended). So what are the rules/requirements of bible exegesis? Oh also, what denomination are you from if you don't mind me asking?
Well.....some Christians believe they can interpret things better than others....but we are supposed to, read the Bible and live by what it says and it's laws accordingly.

We are supposed to not interpret like we want it such as some do. Some would say they do anything for the people to help them understand for the new generation....that is wrong! they should teach the Bible, and they should listen.

I would have to say I am Protestant...but I come from an Italian Roman Catholic family so I lean more towards the traditional old world Christian views, like Eastern orthodox.

btw, i never mind any questions. there is no such thing as a bad question.....just a bad answer.

I'm one of those guys that put it all on the table and let someone decide for them selves what they think of me...I know I wont be judged by them anyway:D

And even when I do......some people still like me?;D
Reply

Abdul Fattah
12-29-2009, 10:53 PM
Hi, thx for your answers.
Am I correct that your views about exegesis (that it is not allowed by opinion) comes from your inclination towards Catholic Christianity? In my first post, silly me, I had kind of assumed you were protestant, since you mentioned you're "smack in the middle of the bible belt". The looseness in interpretating verses I mentioned, is something that I've found mostly with protestants. Then again, I've barely debated/talked with Catholics on religion (which is Ironic since I live in a country which has a majority of Catholics. But I guess most Catholics here in Belgium either don't have a strong enough conviction to talk about religion, or prefer to hide in their cocoons.
Reply

Italianguy
12-29-2009, 11:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abdul Fattah
Hi, thx for your answers.
Am I correct that your views about exegesis (that it is not allowed by opinion) comes from your inclination towards Catholic Christianity? In my first post, silly me, I had kind of assumed you were protestant, since you mentioned you're "smack in the middle of the bible belt". The looseness in interpretating verses I mentioned, is something that I've found mostly with protestants. Then again, I've barely debated/talked with Catholics on religion (which is Ironic since I live in a country which has a majority of Catholics. But I guess most Catholics here in Belgium either don't have a strong enough conviction to talk about religion, or prefer to hide in their cocoons.
Well it's hard to explain, I am Protestant......but i wish the Christianity of 1500 years ago was still around. I mentioned i came from a Roman Catholic family. I don't agree with some of the practices of Catholicism, like for instance , confesion: a Priest can forgive you for your sins by making you say a set amount of prayers.......That doesn't work for me....There is only one who can forgive my sins.

My story is long and exhausting:exhausted.....but i can surely tell you anything you want:D and my story.......get some coffee its gonna be a long day;D
Reply

zakirs
12-30-2009, 07:48 AM
There is only one who can forgive my sins.
Creator :) ..

Your views are so similiar italian guy .. really the only point we differ is jesus (pbuh) being son of god :)
Reply

Italianguy
12-30-2009, 02:31 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by zakirs
Creator :) ..

Your views are so similiar italian guy .. really the only point we differ is jesus (pbuh) being son of god :)
Namaste..or Vanakkam Brother Zakirs. I have been hearing that a lot lately. Even Zainab said she would have thought I was a Muslim had it not been the fact I wear a cross around my neck...well...and other things..but she saw me praying the other day while she was with my wife and was so supprised? She said I look like a Muslim when I pray?:hmm:

Idk.
Reply

Hey there! Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.

When you create an account, you can participate in the discussions and share your thoughts. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and make new friends.
Sign Up

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 7
    Last Post: 07-12-2013, 11:22 PM
  2. Replies: 21
    Last Post: 06-11-2011, 08:00 AM
  3. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 02-02-2010, 12:49 PM
  4. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 10-07-2006, 08:03 PM
  5. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-24-2006, 08:12 AM
British Wholesales - Certified Wholesale Linen & Towels | Holiday in the Maldives

IslamicBoard

Experience a richer experience on our mobile app!