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anonymous
01-03-2010, 06:28 PM
I am having doubts about Islam. Every year these doubts grow stronger and I sometimes think of leaving Islam. I studied about Islam in detail, matters relating to adultery, fornication, homosexuality, apostasy, women leadership and I can go on. Stoning sounds like such a horrific punishment, I feel it is too extreme. I feel like a hypocrite when defending the punishments and restrictions prescribed because deep down I find it hard to accept them. I like some parts of Islam but not everything.

I studied the history of Islam and it is a beautiful religion, I hope Muslims here will not get the impression that I have a deep inner hatred towards my religion because that is not the case. I respect Prophet Peace Be Upon Him deeply.

As a Muslim you are to accept everything and cannot pick and choose the parts you like. I can leave but at the same I don't want to. I want to be Muslim but I cannot choose the parts I like, I need to accept everything. I don't to feel like a hypocrite either.

How can Muslim actually come to agree with the punishment prescribed for those offences? Throwing off two homosexuals off the tallest building is scary. They were not harming anyone. I cannot sit and watch some of these punishments take place because I would not be able to cope with it. How can other Muslims accept these types of punishments? Can anyone truthfully sit down and watch these punishments take place, those homosexuals were harming no one. I understand Islam values privacy and you would require 4 witnesses but I dunno...

I'm confused and I feel like I'm trapped. I don't want to leave Islam but I'm finding it extremely difficult to accept punishments. I just don't want to be a hypocrite. I am not sure why I am even bothered, it does not make any sense...I could leave but I don't and yet I don't want to be a hypocrite. Sorry for the rant, I had to get that off my chest. What would you suggest I do because I don't know anymore...
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Snowflake
01-04-2010, 01:02 AM
Throwing off two homosexuals off the tallest building is scary. They were not harming anyone.


Name of Questioner
Ahmad - United Kingdom
Title
Death Fall as Punishment for Homosexuality
Question
Respected scholars of Islam, As-Salamu `Alaykum wa Rahamtu Allah wa Barakatuh. I have read in a newspaper that an Iranian man who was convicted of raping and killing his 16-year-old nephew is to be executed by being thrown off a cliff in sack; and if the man survives the fall down a rocky precipice, he will be hanged. What is your comment on this issue?
Date
22/Jul/2002
Topic
Sexual perversity



Answer


Wa`alykum As-Salaam Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear brother in Islam, we do really appreciate your question, which shows how far you are interested in getting yourself well-aquatinted with Islam and its teachings. May Allah bless your efforts in the pursuit of knowledge!

First of all, it should be clear that this man committed two heinous crimes: 1) homosexuality, and 2) murder. Each crime is sufficient to warrant death penalty. In addition, this man has severed ties of kinship by seducing and killing his nephew.

The Glorious Qur’an is explicit in deciding the Hadd (legal penalty) for the crime of murder, when saying: “O ye who believe! the law of equality is prescribed to you in cases of murder: …” (Al-Baqarah: 178)

Homosexuality, moreover, is an abomination and a grave sin. In Hadith, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, clarifies the gravity of this abomination by saying: “Allah curses the one who does the actions (homosexual practices) of the people of Lut” repeating it three times; and he said in another Hadith: “If a man comes upon a man then they are both adulterers.” Here, he considered homosexuality tantamount to adultery in relation to the Shari’ah punishments because it is an abomination on the one hand and the definition of adultery applies to it on the other hand.

However, death fall is not the sole penalty agreed upon by the Muslim Jurists as a punishment for this crime. The punishment here is controversial due to divergence of views among `Ulama in deducting ruling as regards this case from Shari`ah sources.

Focusing more on the question in point, the eminent Muslim scholar, Sheikh `Abdel Khaliq Hasan Ash-Shareef, states:

“As regards this case (if genuine), this man committed two heinous crimes, which deserve severe punishment. He is a murderer and homosexual. Besides, he severed ties of kinship by doing such grave sins.

Death penalty (Qisas) is well established by the Qur’an in more than one verse. Allah, Most High, says: “O ye who believe! the law of equality is prescribed to you in cases of murder: …” (Al-Baqarah: 178)

As to the issue of how the homosexual person is judged in an Islamic State, the Companions of Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessing be upon him differed among themselves on this issue, and this led to different views maintained by Muslim Jurists. For example, in the Hanafi school of thought, the homosexual is punished through harsh beating, and if he/she repeats the act, death penalty is to be applied. As for the Shafi`i school of thought, the homosexual receives the same punishment of adultery (if he/she is married) or fornication (if not married). This means, that if the homosexual is married, he/she is stoned to death, while if single, he/she is whipped 100 times. Hence, the Shafi`i compares the punishment applied in the case of homosexuality with that of adultery and fornication, while the Hanafi differentiates between the two acts because in homosexuality, the anus (a place of impurity) may also be involved while in adultery (and fornication), the penis/vagina (which are reproductive parts) are involved. Some scholars hold the opinion that the homosexual should be thrown from a high building as a punishment for his crime, but other scholars maintain that he should be imprisoned until death.

Based on the above fact, we can conclude that, the judge is invested with full discretion as to whether this man is to be thrown from a high place or not, as a punishment for his crime. However, if the man survives death fall, the judge has the right to sentence him to death.”
Read more here...

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503545556

Bangully: I also agree with you. If we are being rewarded for the good in heaven, then we should also be punished for the bad in Hell but I dont think muslims should punish other muslims. Its not fair. No human is superior to another to punish another human being. I personally dont believe in Heaven/Hell but I do believe in an afterlife.
This is a serious question; would you hold the same view if your sister/ mother/daughter was raped, or someone you loved was murdered?

If you don't believe in Heaven/Hell you have disbelieved in al-Quran and Allah's Word. This takes you out of the folds of Islam.
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Alpha Dude
01-04-2010, 01:21 AM
:sl:
If you have firm conviction that Islam is real, which I believe you do based on what you've said, then ANYTHING that makes you question Islam is to be regarded as waswas (shaytanic whispers) and you should seek refuge in Allah from shaytan. That is not an illogical approach at all, because Allah has said the shaytan is an open enemy to you and if you believe Allah is real and then you must also believe that shaytan is too and know that he will do anything to destroy your belief.

So we submit to Allah's rule, if we believe he exists. It is that simple. We don't impose our own thoughts on what is correct and what is not.

Ethics and morality is all relative. If we lived at the time of the Prophet SAW, we wouldn't even think twice whether these punishments were barbaric or not. Yet now we live in a supposedly 'enlightened' time that we feel we can judge Islamic law based on man-made attitudes of what constitutes right and wrong. Why?

It is not logical for a person who believes Allah is real to judge Allah's laws based on mad-made ones. Everything should be judged in light of Islam. Absolute morality belongs to Allah and Allah is most just.

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There's also these dua that have been mentioned for doubts. I advise you read it sincerely from your heart:



  • He should seek refuge in Allaah
  • He should renounce that which is causing such doubt.
  • He should say:
    ‘I have believed in Allaah and His Messengers.’








He should also recite the following verse:
‘He is The First and The Last, Ath-Thaahir and Al-Baatin and He knows well all things.’
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Getoffmyback
01-04-2010, 01:33 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
I am having doubts about Islam. Every year these doubts grow stronger and I sometimes think of leaving Islam. I studied about Islam in detail, matters relating to adultery, fornication, homosexuality, apostasy, women leadership and I can go on. Stoning sounds like such a horrific punishment, I feel it is too extreme. I feel like a hypocrite when defending the punishments and restrictions prescribed because deep down I find it hard to accept them. I like some parts of Islam but not everything.

I studied the history of Islam and it is a beautiful religion, I hope Muslims here will not get the impression that I have a deep inner hatred towards my religion because that is not the case. I respect Prophet Peace Be Upon Him deeply.

As a Muslim you are to accept everything and cannot pick and choose the parts you like. I can leave but at the same I don't want to. I want to be Muslim but I cannot choose the parts I like, I need to accept everything. I don't to feel like a hypocrite either.

How can Muslim actually come to agree with the punishment prescribed for those offences? Throwing off two homosexuals off the tallest building is scary. They were not harming anyone. I cannot sit and watch some of these punishments take place because I would not be able to cope with it. How can other Muslims accept these types of punishments? Can anyone truthfully sit down and watch these punishments take place, those homosexuals were harming no one. I understand Islam values privacy and you would require 4 witnesses but I dunno...

I'm confused and I feel like I'm trapped. I don't want to leave Islam but I'm finding it extremely difficult to accept punishments. I just don't want to be a hypocrite. I am not sure why I am even bothered, it does not make any sense...I could leave but I don't and yet I don't want to be a hypocrite. Sorry for the rant, I had to get that off my chest. What would you suggest I do because I don't know anymore...

man you are not trapped ....islam is a religion,,religion is a matter of faith...leaving a religion will be caused by lack of belief....and i'm with you that a bad experience will lubricate the lack of faith.
but i wonder how do the african american feel towards lynnching them....there is bad everywhere.

me too i have lack of faith..but i hope i will regaind my trust and my love to my religion...and for sure i never ever will become an "atheist"...the word and idea is so vulgar to me.

a month ago i started reading about the history of islam "the golden ages" wow i was impressed...i thought islam was "only by the sowrd " but it turned out its "tolerence".
just hope the good for the future.take care.
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Muslim Woman
01-04-2010, 02:04 AM
:sl:

format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
.. Throwing off two homosexuals off the tallest building is scary. ....
never heard of such punishment. I heard of death penalty if they refuse to repent .

....
They were not harming anyone....
yes , they are . They are rebelling against God Almighty and encouraging others to do so . If society does not punish the sinners , then sin will be wide spreaded and there will be unrest in the society.

Moreover , u should feel sorry to think what punishment they will get on the final day rather than what they get now. Any punishment is temporary here but some/many sinners will get severe punish for ever in hereafter.

So , don't shed all tears for them here , reserve some ...they will need it badly later unless God guides them.
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Getoffmyback
01-04-2010, 02:28 AM
How are you going to punish homosexuals while they have rights in many other countrie?
A little bit of freedom? No?
Scholasticism is declining the image.
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CosmicPathos
01-04-2010, 03:03 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Getoffmyback
How are you going to punish homosexuals while they have rights in many other countrie?
A little bit of freedom? No?
Scholasticism is declining the image.
What do you mean? If other countries have rights, does it mean we follow those countries too? Are you suggesting me to betray my Prophet?
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*charisma*
01-04-2010, 03:56 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
How can Muslim actually come to agree with the punishment prescribed for those offences? Throwing off two homosexuals off the tallest building is scary. They were not harming anyone. I cannot sit and watch some of these punishments take place because I would not be able to cope with it. How can other Muslims accept these types of punishments? Can anyone truthfully sit down and watch these punishments take place, those homosexuals were harming no one. I understand Islam values privacy and you would require 4 witnesses but I dunno...

I'm confused and I feel like I'm trapped. I don't want to leave Islam but I'm finding it extremely difficult to accept punishments. I just don't want to be a hypocrite. I am not sure why I am even bothered, it does not make any sense...I could leave but I don't and yet I don't want to be a hypocrite. Sorry for the rant, I had to get that off my chest. What would you suggest I do because I don't know anymore...
In the Quran, Allah warns, warns, and warns. You say how can Muslims accept these types of punishments?? How can a MUSLIM accept committing a sin (sinning publicly none the less) in front of Allah, the two angels on each of his shoulders recording his sins, and a second/third party, with no shame when he knows what he's doing is wrong? Furthermore, how can a MUSLIM reject the only way for its expiation? This world's worth has amounted to nothing due to the actions of people who choose to continue their sins.

Adultery doesn't ruin the life of one individual, it ruins FAMILIES and it ruins the purity of a people and their innocence. And the act of homosexuality is forbidden because essentially its unlawful. Allah is most merciful and most wise. If He doesn't give us a reason for why we shouldn't commit something, then He gives us a warning and we must take heed of it. A Muslim submits..his whole body submits, down to every last action...it's not just a "believe in your heart" religion; Your heart submits, and your body submits. If you do something wrong then there's an expiation for it in dunyaa so that you won't have to suffer from Allah's punishment in the afterlife which is far more severe.

The prophet pbuh taught us to be moderate in our religion. We aren't told never to get married or to never get divorced, and in contrast we aren't told to commit adultery or fornication, but rather subhanallah, we are told to lower our gaze, remain chaste, get married young if we are able, and to treat our spouses with utmost respect. If it doesn't work out, we don't go out and commit adultery, we try to work it out as much as possible..and if still that has no effect, we get divorced and remarried if we wanted. So just as Allah has given us punishments and drew us lines which we shouldn't cross..He has also given us examples on how to live in the most content and beautiful of ways.

You can't make the punishments of Islam seem to be a flaw, especially when every Muslim should know his mere existence is a mercy from Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
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CosmicPathos
01-04-2010, 04:04 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
I am having doubts about Islam. Every year these doubts grow stronger and I sometimes think of leaving Islam. I studied about Islam in detail, matters relating to adultery, fornication, homosexuality, apostasy, women leadership and I can go on. Stoning sounds like such a horrific punishment, I feel it is too extreme. I feel like a hypocrite when defending the punishments and restrictions prescribed because deep down I find it hard to accept them. I like some parts of Islam but not everything.

I studied the history of Islam and it is a beautiful religion, I hope Muslims here will not get the impression that I have a deep inner hatred towards my religion because that is not the case. I respect Prophet Peace Be Upon Him deeply.

As a Muslim you are to accept everything and cannot pick and choose the parts you like. I can leave but at the same I don't want to. I want to be Muslim but I cannot choose the parts I like, I need to accept everything. I don't to feel like a hypocrite either.

How can Muslim actually come to agree with the punishment prescribed for those offences? Throwing off two homosexuals off the tallest building is scary. They were not harming anyone. I cannot sit and watch some of these punishments take place because I would not be able to cope with it. How can other Muslims accept these types of punishments? Can anyone truthfully sit down and watch these punishments take place, those homosexuals were harming no one. I understand Islam values privacy and you would require 4 witnesses but I dunno...

I'm confused and I feel like I'm trapped. I don't want to leave Islam but I'm finding it extremely difficult to accept punishments. I just don't want to be a hypocrite. I am not sure why I am even bothered, it does not make any sense...I could leave but I don't and yet I don't want to be a hypocrite. Sorry for the rant, I had to get that off my chest. What would you suggest I do because I don't know anymore...
Sorry to say but it does not seem that this is an intellectual doubt. More of an emotional doubt?

I think there is a narration in which a homosexual man was thrown off a cliff by the companions. I dont mind capital punishment in Islam cuz Allah made them obligatory. Not only that, nature kills us all, I dont doubt nature's existence. If Islam allows homosexuals to be killed, why should I doubt Islam?
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anonymous
01-04-2010, 04:37 AM
Oh I should have made myself clear, I do view homosexuality, fornication and adultery as a sin. I just think the punishment is harsh. I do agree to some extent they can harm relationships. The odd thing is I find the concept of hell and forever punishment very easy to accept and they are supposed to be worse. I don't get it.

@ Alpha Dude

Probably it could be whispers, I used to get them a lot when I was a kid, however I'm not sure if that was me or my brain. I used to get whispers or voices saying not to believe in Allah. I got scared when I was close to accepting those whispers, now however as years went by that is not the case. I am not scared anymore.

Thanks for the dua, I hope something good comes out of it.

format_quote Originally Posted by Getoffmyback
How are you going to punish homosexuals while they have rights in many other countrie?
No but I am supposed to support it. I am supposed to accept everything and feel fine about it, though I am having difficulty achieving that.

format_quote Originally Posted by Wa7abiScientist
Sorry to say but it does not seem that this is an intellectual doubt. More of an emotional doubt?
Yes I am not thinking objectively. That is how I felt. I have no one to talk to and I just wanted to finally express myself. Hate keeping things bottled up.

Right now I feel just confused. I hope I can get back to trusting Islam. It is the only religion that makes sense to me. I was raised as a Muslim and I was very happy back when I was a kid but now my faith has gotten weak. Not sure what I am to do but I will read the Dua. I hope something happens, I feeling very awkward and confused...

Thanks everyone for the replies, I'm not sure what I am supposed to do now...feel lost.
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Maysan
01-04-2010, 04:40 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
Stoning sounds like such a horrific punishment, I feel it is too extreme. I feel like a hypocrite when defending the punishments and restrictions prescribed because deep down I find it hard to accept them. I like some parts of Islam but not everything.
:sl:,

Don't listen to the whispers from Shaytan brother, hold fast to emaan, remember this is not only this life but also the Afterlife at stake.

Adultery is a most serious offence, & stoning is the fitting punishment for it.

The Jews also had it, but they abandoned it almost 2000 years back, as seen from this Sahih hadith. Our Prophet(pbuh) made them carry out the Torah's punishments & stone.

Volume 8, Book 82, Number 809:
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

A Jew and a Jewess were brought to Allah's Apostle on a charge of committing an illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet asked them. "What is the legal punishment (for this sin) in your Book (Torah)?" They replied, "Our priests have innovated the punishment of blackening the faces with charcoal and Tajbiya." 'Abdullah bin Salam said, "O Allah's Apostle, tell them to bring the Torah." The Torah was brought, and then one of the Jews put his hand over the Divine Verse of the Rajam (stoning to death) and started reading what preceded and what followed it. On that, Ibn Salam said to the Jew, "Lift up your hand." Behold! The Divine Verse of the Rajam was under his hand. So Allah's Apostle ordered that the two (sinners) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned. Ibn 'Umar added: So both of them were stoned at the Balat and I saw the Jew sheltering the Jewess.

As they turned away from God's laws, we see the perverse sexuality which now characterizes what used to be the Judeo Christian civilization.

Islam does not allow us to make it a convenience religion, to "change" with times, as its the final word of Allah(swt), we have to accept everything.

My brother had married a British woman, they divorced & she got custody of the children, she didn't raise them Islamically, & I feel so sorry when I see my nephews & nieces call themselves ex Muslims. My nephew was telling me the other day that he's joined some online Council of ex Muslims.

I pray for their souls everyday that they turn back to Allah(swt), please remain steadfast for your Afterlife.
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anonymous
01-04-2010, 04:47 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Maysan
:sl:,

My brother had married a British woman, they divorced & she got custody of the children, she didn't raise them Islamically, & I feel so sorry when I see my nephews & nieces call themselves ex Muslims. My nephew was telling me the other day that he's joined some online Council of ex Muslims.

I pray for their souls everyday that they turn back to Allah(swt), please remain steadfast for your Afterlife.
:wa:

Sorry to hear that, I would not go as far as joining a cult of ex-Muslims. I still have loyalty towards my religion. Ex-Muslims like Wafa Sultan and Nonie Darwish really annoy me. So I still have loyalty towards Islam, I just feel like I'm losing my faith and trying to gain back the trust that I once have back when I was a kid.
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CosmicPathos
01-04-2010, 05:27 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
:wa:

Sorry to hear that, I would not go as far as joining a cult of ex-Muslims. I still have loyalty towards my religion. Ex-Muslims like Wafa Sultan and Nonie Darwish really annoy me. So I still have loyalty towards Islam, I just feel like I'm losing my faith and trying to gain back the trust that I once have back when I was a kid.
Can you pinpoint any reasons due to which you might be loosing your faith? It seems that you do not doubt God's existence. But if you do then we have to start from there.
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Zarmina
01-04-2010, 05:30 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
:wa:

Sorry to hear that, I would not go as far as joining a cult of ex-Muslims. I still have loyalty towards my religion. Ex-Muslims like Wafa Sultan and Nonie Darwish really annoy me. So I still have loyalty towards Islam, I just feel like I'm losing my faith and trying to gain back the trust that I once have back when I was a kid.
Do you watch the Western media a lot? Could that be playing a role?
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جوري
01-04-2010, 05:34 AM
sometimes our faith waxes and wanes.. you can't be one hundred percent all the time.. what don't you simply keep the basic rituals and ask Allah swt for understanding and guidance, and surely it will come to you when the time is right..

I say this from personal experience, though I grew up in a very religious household and spent the early years of my life in Saudi Arabia, I didn't even do the basics which is to pray to keep my relationship with Allah swt.. change came because I wanted it, and then Allah swt put things in my way whenever I had doubts or questions..

sometimes our faith is deep of a superficial, sometimes it is just superficial, sometimes is is superficial of deep and sometimes very deep.. I am not sure I have come across anyone, even the most religious who didn't fluctuate here and there .. I know one deeply religious person, who once got into a car accident and when he found his sister unconscious thought of taking his own life too because he couldn't bear the burden of knowing he was the cause of her death, but al7mdlillah she recovered shortly after, and that experience taught him something about his own faith or lack of it...

try to take it one day at a time and approach all your queries one at a time so you are not overwhelmed?


:w:
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Hamza Asadullah
01-04-2010, 05:44 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
I am having doubts about Islam. Every year these doubts grow stronger and I sometimes think of leaving Islam. I studied about Islam in detail, matters relating to adultery, fornication, homosexuality, apostasy, women leadership and I can go on. Stoning sounds like such a horrific punishment, I feel it is too extreme. I feel like a hypocrite when defending the punishments and restrictions prescribed because deep down I find it hard to accept them. I like some parts of Islam but not everything.

I studied the history of Islam and it is a beautiful religion, I hope Muslims here will not get the impression that I have a deep inner hatred towards my religion because that is not the case. I respect Prophet Peace Be Upon Him deeply.

As a Muslim you are to accept everything and cannot pick and choose the parts you like. I can leave but at the same I don't want to. I want to be Muslim but I cannot choose the parts I like, I need to accept everything. I don't to feel like a hypocrite either.

How can Muslim actually come to agree with the punishment prescribed for those offences? Throwing off two homosexuals off the tallest building is scary. They were not harming anyone. I cannot sit and watch some of these punishments take place because I would not be able to cope with it. How can other Muslims accept these types of punishments? Can anyone truthfully sit down and watch these punishments take place, those homosexuals were harming no one. I understand Islam values privacy and you would require 4 witnesses but I dunno...

I'm confused and I feel like I'm trapped. I don't want to leave Islam but I'm finding it extremely difficult to accept punishments. I just don't want to be a hypocrite. I am not sure why I am even bothered, it does not make any sense...I could leave but I don't and yet I don't want to be a hypocrite. Sorry for the rant, I had to get that off my chest. What would you suggest I do because I don't know anymore...
Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, my brother do not despair. It is only knowledge that you lack and that is where confusion can creep in. Why do you think it is so important to gain knowledge? It is incumbant that we gain as much knowledge as possible in order to realise that EVERYTHING in Islam is makes proper logical sense.

My brother Allah has given us Prophets as a mercy on mankind and our beloved Rasulallah(Pbuh) came with the shari'ah which encompasses every aspect of our lives and not only is it best for us but societies have taken a lot of lessons from the Shari'ah.

Look at the societies we live in today. It is going from bad to worse where crime is becoming ever more rampant and widespread. Murder rates are going up. Rape is going up. Homosexuality is becoming the 'normalised' in society.

My brother even behavorial psychologists confirm that man needs rules and harsh penalties in order to restrain themselves. Without rules there would be chaos in society. Where im from in the UK prison has become more like a university campus. There are better meals available than most people recieve at home. There is sports activities, clean room and bed. Is this a deterrant? That is why crime is rising all the time and will continue to rise.

Allah has set laws that are best for mankind. He has set these laws which may seem to you harsh but they are not just meant for punishment but their purpose is that they are a deterrant. Just like when we were younger we were scared to step over the limit incase we were rebuked by our parents. The same way if man has a fear that if they cross the limits then they will recieve a punishment then they will think twice before committing the crime.

The type of punishments that are given in the UK for example are not deterrants at all. That is why most people who come out of prison re-offend. How many times have rapist and child mollestors come out of prison to commit the very same crimes again? This would not be the case if there was harsh enough rules in order to act as a deterrant to put people off committing heinious crimes.

My brother the widespread fornication in todays society has far worser implications than you may think. A person i know works in a hospital laboratory and he tells me that there are so many Muslim girls who come in for abortions because of fornication. On top of that ask any doctor about the sexually transmitted diseases that are rampant in todays societies. If those people had the fear of a punishment then surely they would desist in commiting such crimes.

From the past few years i have seen COUNTLESS cases in the UK of women and some men getting killed by their partners after finding out they were cheating. Just recently a middled aged man stabbed his wife several times after finding out she cheated on him. Only a person who went through the terrible ordeal of finding out their partner cheated on them would they realise how excruciating the pain is. If it happened to you only then would you realise what it feels like. Look at the divorce rate in the UK and America. Mainly because of cheating partners. The implications this has on society are terrible. Children growing up without mothers and fathers and having psychological and social development problems. Sexually transmitted diseases going off the scale. A promiscious society where the words 'till death do us part' have become meaningless where people are following their desires. Its going to get much worse. Theres no more bashfulness in people anymore. The implications of fornication and adultrey are far more deeper than you think and the punishments are a deterrant at a societal level don't just think on an individual level. The Islamic laws would eradicate these terrible problems.

Homosexuality where same sex civil marriages have now become a fashion. Even science proves that no one is born homosexual but they aquire these feelings. If it becomes more and more accepted then more and more people are likely to act on these homosexual feelings. You would have a society of same gender marriages and what would that do to the amount of population? It would have terriible affects for our societies.

Islamic law would deter people with these feelings to act upon their desires. Just like it would deter those who want to committ fornication and adultry to act on their desires. Islamic law is a deterrant for society to restrain themselves from following these evil desires and would eradicate the many problems faced by our societies today particularly the MASSIVE alcohol problem which is draining resources of every western society.

In regards to apostacy then know that an apostate can ONLY be killed if they purposley try and defame the name of Islam as many apostates have done. Those who are peaceful are not harmed by Shar'iah except those who incite hate against Islam and try to defame it. It is only them who are killed.

If you have anymore questions then please don't hesitate to ask as we are here for you.
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anonymous
01-04-2010, 07:01 AM
@ Hamza81

:wa:

Thank you. I'm going to copy that post, as a reminder. Society has gotten worse a years go by...

format_quote Originally Posted by Wa7abiScientist
Can you pinpoint any reasons due to which you might be loosing your faith? It seems that you do not doubt God's existence. But if you do then we have to start from there.
I sometimes doubt God's existence but that is unintentionally. I try to correct myself when I get doubts about God's existence.

I started to lose my faith back when I was 8/9. I visited family in Leeds and when I came back, I was not interested in reading the Qur'an. I did read but when I had to, not because I wanted to. When I was 11 my sister died and after I became more aware of Islam. 11 to now, I have been praying and stopped. One day I feel religious and the next day I get fed up. It is like market shares, one minute their up and the next minute their down.

When I had access to the internet (last two years ago), I started to see what ex-Muslims, non-Muslims and Muslims had to say about Islam. Too much exposure to anti-Islam material. This lead me to start looking at what Islam states and I started to clear up the misconceptions but they do come back to haunt me.

format_quote Originally Posted by Zarmina
Do you watch the Western media a lot? Could that be playing a role?
Yes I think. :hmm:

I know they're lying but indirectly it has had some sort of impact. Does not help living in the UK. I don't listen to music, gives me a headache. I'm getting bored of playing computer games, I rarely bother playing anymore. I barely watch movies. I barely do anything but be on the internet 24 hours, I'm so bored being alone. All I do is study and internet...

format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye
try to take it one day at a time and approach all your queries one at a time so you are not overwhelmed?
It is actually laziness. I get tired too easily and that too has an impact on my religious commitments. I feel constantly sleepy. Trying to look for a job, hoping not to fail my exams.
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CosmicPathos
01-04-2010, 07:21 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
@ Hamza81

:wa:

Thank you. I'm going to copy that post, as a reminder. Society has gotten worse a years go by...



I sometimes doubt God's existence but that is unintentionally. I try to correct myself when I get doubts about God's existence.

I started to lose my faith back when I was 8/9. I visited family in Leeds and when I came back, I was not interested in reading the Qur'an. I did read but when I had to, not because I wanted to. When I was 11 my sister died and after I became more aware of Islam. 11 to now, I have been praying and stopped. One day I feel religious and the next day I get fed up. It is like market shares, one minute their up and the next minute their down.

When I had access to the internet (last two years ago), I started to see what ex-Muslims, non-Muslims and Muslims had to say about Islam. Too much exposure to anti-Islam material. This lead me to start looking at what Islam states and I started to clear up the misconceptions but they do come back to haunt me.



Yes I think. :hmm:

I know they're lying but indirectly it has had some sort of impact. Does not help living in the UK. I don't listen to music, gives me a headache. I'm getting bored of playing computer games, I rarely bother playing anymore. I barely watch movies. I barely do anything but be on the internet 24 hours, I'm so bored being alone. All I do is study and internet...



It is actually laziness. I get tired too easily and that too has an impact on my religious commitments. I feel constantly sleepy. Trying to look for a job, hoping not to fail my exams.
How old are you?

I understand your concerns. What do you study? Do you have other responsibilities? I've seen many Muslims leave Islam after they start with "debating with atheists." They start with good intentions but within 6 months to 1 year, things become opposite. They become the most vehement enemies of Islam. I do not know how they die but I've read that one Muslim became atheist and then he died and his friend was asking a sheikh if he could attend the janaaza of this dude.

If internet creates these doubts, stop "wasting" too much time on the internet. I am not telling you to stop inquiring about your doubts. Lets say if you have doubt about evolution, study what evolution has to say and study what Islam says. Talk to sheikhs and scientists. Come to terms with what makes sense to you. Islam does not negate the fact that evolution occurs. I personally have come to the conclusion that there is not enough evidence for me to accept emergence of man from lower animals just based on evolution. I do however accept micro-evolution which happens within species all the time as I can observe it. Seeing is believing.

Regarding the existence of something called God, it becomes a domain of philosophical arguments and metaphysics. Science does not deal with God. Just like how learning about for example farming does not deal with showing God exists. Farming is learning about realities. It, however, does not mean we can directly study the existence of God through it. I've listened to counter-arguments of God's existence. I now find them to be of insufficient intellectual worth. They are more like arguments made by one who does not believe in God. They are biased. They try to explain natural phenomenon by ways of nature. If the assumption is atheistic, the outcome will be atheistic. If the assumption is neutral, the outcome will be that of belief.


Once you find answers to the issues, stop going back to that issue again and again. Life is not meant to debate on youtube with atheists. Life is meant to worship God and increase in faith. Thats just my 2 cents. If you want to have proofs for existence of God, listen to debates of Hamzra Andreas Tzortzis with atheists on youtube.
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tango92
01-04-2010, 08:02 AM
this is all a result of the dajjal system. what appear like heaven ie fornication homosexuality (4 sum) alcohol, once you get trappd in it its actually a hell.

and islam is made to look like hell. when really iman is the only way to achieve heaven in your heart.

its crazy, just yesterday this civilised society were lynching people for the colour of their skin and enslaving them. but when it is no longer economically viable then its a human rights violation. brother wake up to this propaganda.

your own flesh and blood brothers are being opressed and masacred for oil, and yet the americans have us justifying the rights of the gays.

if God doesnt decide what is right and wrong then leave it to man to corrupt the land with his greed.
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Ramadhan
01-04-2010, 09:35 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by tango92
this is all a result of the dajjal system. what appear like heaven ie fornication homosexuality (4 sum) alcohol, once you get trappd in it its actually a hell.

and islam is made to look like hell. when really iman is the only way to achieve heaven in your heart.
I completely in agreement about current situation being very-dajjal like.
Sometimes I wonder if Dajjal is actually a metaphor and not actual person.
If we analyse our current situation, everywhere in the world we can see that anything prohibited by Islam is actually getting more popular while anything encouraged by Islam are shunned by society or considered "not cool".

May Allah SWT saves us from the trial of Dajjal.
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tango92
01-04-2010, 11:54 AM
some say that the free masons are awaiting the arrival of dajjal. look at this picture - United states emblem

http://govdocs.evergreen.edu/greatsealus.jpg

note the one eye? conspiracy theory or what?
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Alpha Dude
01-04-2010, 12:28 PM
You say Islam is the only religion that makes sense so that means you accept Islam on the intellectual level. You have to move on from just accepting Islam to be true and try your utmost to be a good muslim.

If I told you there was a being who had control over everything who would help you and give you everything you want, wouldn't you want to get close to him so that you could win his favours? So you should try to form a relationship with Allah. Talk to Allah, sincerely. Let's assume you've won the intellectual battle, now the next step is to believe in Allah with your heart. Make constant dua as though Allah is hearing everything and have certitude in your dua being accepted. Once you have this deep connection with Allah, you will find your faith wavering less and less InshaAllah.

Be sincere. Allah is what you think Allah to be. If you believe Allah will guide and help you, that is what will happen.
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Getoffmyback
01-04-2010, 01:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Wa7abiScientist
What do you mean? If other countries have rights, does it mean we follow those countries too? Are you suggesting me to betray my Prophet?
You are giving an image of muslims that they are Vulnerable towards modern freedom and tolerance. And can't handle it.
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aamirsaab
01-04-2010, 01:53 PM
:sl:
The punishments may be harsh, but to actually qualify for them takes a substantial amount of evidence (for homosexuality, you have to be caught in the act....) PLUS court procedings.

It is not a case of: ''Look, there's a homo. Commence ass-whooping!''

Edit: Don't waste your time on ex-muslims and islam haters. They are exactly the people Allah warns us away from i.e. the ones who will never accept us until we are one of them. I've dealt with them in the past and looking back on it I see now how futile it was: they will always hate you for your belief (in discussions, they will adhom you constantly and push you into corners whenever they can) so don't waste your time with them.
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anonymous
01-04-2010, 04:47 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Wa7abiScientist
How old are you?
18.

I understand your concerns. What do you study? Do you have other responsibilities?
Well I study Law, Politics and Finance at college part time. I'm trying to look for a job, only thing that I'm worried about. I'm considering working for a government department, banks, insurance companies, hospitals...anywhere as long as it is a job. Studying is not difficult, however getting a job is extremely hard and tiring. I have sleeping problems too but my doctor sorting that out. Not going University, never been my thing.

I've seen many Muslims leave Islam after they start with "debating with atheists." They start with good intentions but within 6 months to 1 year, things become opposite. They become the most vehement enemies of Islam. I do not know how they die but I've read that one Muslim became atheist and then he died and his friend was asking a sheikh if he could attend the janaaza of this dude.
I tend to avoid debating, not my thing. I cannot imagine having excessive hatred towards Islam.

If internet creates these doubts, stop "wasting" too much time on the internet. I am not telling you to stop inquiring about your doubts. Lets say if you have doubt about evolution, study what evolution has to say and study what Islam says. Talk to sheikhs and scientists. Come to terms with what makes sense to you. Islam does not negate the fact that evolution occurs. I personally have come to the conclusion that there is not enough evidence for me to accept emergence of man from lower animals just based on evolution. I do however accept micro-evolution which happens within species all the time as I can observe it. Seeing is believing.
Actually after posting this topic, my doubts have cleared up. I think it was something else that was causing my doubts. Maybe I may get doubts again but I'm sure it is going to be easier to overcome them now. Internet is causing many problems. :/

Regarding the existence of something called God, it becomes a domain of philosophical arguments and metaphysics. Science does not deal with God. Just like how learning about for example farming does not deal with showing God exists. Farming is learning about realities. It, however, does not mean we can directly study the existence of God through it. I've listened to counter-arguments of God's existence. I now find them to be of insufficient intellectual worth. They are more like arguments made by one who does not believe in God. They are biased. They try to explain natural phenomenon by ways of nature. If the assumption is atheistic, the outcome will be atheistic. If the assumption is neutral, the outcome will be that of belief.

Once you find answers to the issues, stop going back to that issue again and again. Life is not meant to debate on youtube with atheists. Life is meant to worship God and increase in faith. Thats just my 2 cents. If you want to have proofs for existence of God, listen to debates of Hamzra Andreas Tzortzis with atheists on youtube.
Thanks! I tend to avoid very aggressive atheists. I don't like arguing. I'll watch the video to gain more knowledge. To be honest evolution never really had an impact on me on my religious beliefs nor did science. Atheists like Richard Dawkins bore me to death and ex-Muslims like Wafa Sultan reminds me of a nutter.

format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
If I told you there was a being who had control over everything who would help you and give you everything you want, wouldn't you want to get close to him so that you could win his favours? So you should try to form a relationship with Allah. Talk to Allah, sincerely. Let's assume you've won the intellectual battle, now the next step is to believe in Allah with your heart. Make constant dua as though Allah is hearing everything and have certitude in your dua being accepted. Once you have this deep connection with Allah, you will find your faith wavering less and less InshaAllah.

Be sincere. Allah is what you think Allah to be. If you believe Allah will guide and help you, that is what will happen.
That is going to be hard though I'll keep on trying. I'm so lazy and sleepy, 5 daily prayers is tiring. I need to get some energy from somewhere.

format_quote Originally Posted by aamirsaab
:sl:
The punishments may be harsh, but to actually qualify for them takes a substantial amount of evidence (for homosexuality, you have to be caught in the act....) PLUS court procedings.

It is not a case of: ''Look, there's a homo. Commence ass-whooping!''
Yes you do need a lot of evidence. You cannot make accusations against another person for being homosexual or committing fornication without any evidence or I heard you get lashed which is fair I suppose.

Edit: Don't waste your time on ex-muslims and islam haters. They are exactly the people Allah warns us away from i.e. the ones who will never accept us until we are one of them. I've dealt with them in the past and looking back on it I see now how futile it was: they will always hate you for your belief (in discussions, they will adhom you constantly and push you into corners whenever they can) so don't waste your time with them.
Okay. Extreme Islam haters like Wafa Sultan are annoying and a little psychotic when they speak. Gives me shivers.

I think after talking about it, I feel relieved. I think I need to built on my spiritual side and stay away from the internet. Ah I feel better.

Thanks everyone! My heart and brain can finally rest in peace.
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cat eyes
01-04-2010, 06:00 PM
:sl: i think u already got great advice but sometimes you need to think logically to. i support the killing of gay people. why, well because a young girl whom i worked with was attacked while getting cash from an atm machine the guy who attacked her was a bisexual and he stabbed her with his needle cos he was also a junkie he stuck it in her arm. this guy was well known around the city of having Aids and she went straight to the hospital. weeks later she found out she was hiv positive because of the swine who attacked her. she was only 18years of age, the same age as you. people can get aids from any source. i am not saying its just gays but aids is on the rise because of gay people and what they do in the privacy of there own homes is our buisness because they are a danger to our society
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*charisma*
01-04-2010, 09:46 PM
I found this thread to be really helpful for me, I don't know if it'll have the same affect on you, but no harm in trying (: http://www.islamicboard.com/discover...ariah-law.html
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- Qatada -
01-04-2010, 10:08 PM
:salamext:


If people commit fawahish [indecent deeds] like zina and homosexuality publically, they're harming the ummah by breaking down the family system, since zina does this.

Let's just look at the evil consequences which occur when people do zina, or homosexual acts.


1) They lie to cover up their sin.

2) They do the act with someone else, and usually - they also have a marriage partner, or they will have one in the future. This increases the chances of sexually transmitted diseases [STD's] to spread, even amongst the innocent (i.e. the wife who may catch it off her 'gay husband'.) If she marries again, she may spread it to her new husband.

3) If the wife finds out, the family breaks apart. The children lose a father, which also psychologically affects them as they grow up (studies suggest they do more crime when older because the family breaks up and the children have a lack of someone to love them etc.).

4) If the sin becomes too common, lots of people do it and the ones who want to commit such a sin seek that famous 'adulterer' to do the sin with because they know the sin is commonly spread now. By using such a harsh punishment, no-one even wants to incline to such a person or sin.

5) It causes destruction upon the society.

قالت زينب: أنهلك وفينا الصالحون؟ قال صلى الله عليه و سلك نعم إذا كثر الخبث

“Will we be destroyed even though there are righteous people among us.” The Messenger r said, “Yes, when Al-KHABATH (the filthy acts of unlawful sexual relations and all other sexual perversions) spreads. [Sahih al Bukhari].

Society as a whole is destroyed because of the actions of some. So to save the society from destruction, harsh punishments are given to deter others from wanting to destroy and break down the society and home.

So infact, the adulterer is the selfish one for wanting to harm the society, and not Islam - which is trying to preserve the society.



Personally, i recommend you start listening to some new Islamic talks to increase you in emaan, since an idle mind which dwells on issues which are not applicable today becomes decieved by false arguments.

So i recommend you check out this site;

http://bayyinah.com/dream - download some amazing talks on the Qur'an, since it is the connection between us and Allah. He proves how the Qur'an really is the miracle from Him. It's a real emaan booster. :)

Check it out. Then tell us how your emaan feels after a few of these talks.




Allahu a'lam.
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Hamza Asadullah
01-05-2010, 03:06 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
18.



Well I study Law, Politics and Finance at college part time. I'm trying to look for a job, only thing that I'm worried about. I'm considering working for a government department, banks, insurance companies, hospitals...anywhere as long as it is a job. Studying is not difficult, however getting a job is extremely hard and tiring. I have sleeping problems too but my doctor sorting that out. Not going University, never been my thing.



I tend to avoid debating, not my thing. I cannot imagine having excessive hatred towards Islam.



Actually after posting this topic, my doubts have cleared up. I think it was something else that was causing my doubts. Maybe I may get doubts again but I'm sure it is going to be easier to overcome them now. Internet is causing many problems. :/



Thanks! I tend to avoid very aggressive atheists. I don't like arguing. I'll watch the video to gain more knowledge. To be honest evolution never really had an impact on me on my religious beliefs nor did science. Atheists like Richard Dawkins bore me to death and ex-Muslims like Wafa Sultan reminds me of a nutter.



That is going to be hard though I'll keep on trying. I'm so lazy and sleepy, 5 daily prayers is tiring. I need to get some energy from somewhere.



Yes you do need a lot of evidence. You cannot make accusations against another person for being homosexual or committing fornication without any evidence or I heard you get lashed which is fair I suppose.



Okay. Extreme Islam haters like Wafa Sultan are annoying and a little psychotic when they speak. Gives me shivers.

I think after talking about it, I feel relieved. I think I need to built on my spiritual side and stay away from the internet. Ah I feel better.

Thanks everyone! My heart and brain can finally rest in peace.
What does Islam have to offer the world?

Why is it that we believe that Islam is such a tremendous bounty from Allah? Because there is nothing like Islam on earth:

It is Islam that has taught human beings that the Lord their God is One and Only. That He has no partners, no wife, and no son, and that there can be no compromise on the unity of God.

It is Islam that has taught human beings that they are all equal and that no Arab is superior to non-Arab, nor a non-Arab is superior to an Arab and that the best of all of us is the one who is most righteous.

It is Islam that has taught human beings that they are all brothers and sisters created from a single pair of a male and a female. Therefore, Islam, unlike Hinduism, neither recognizes nor condones the idea of a caste system. Islam is a war on caste systems, on aristocracies, and hereditary social groups of all kinds.

It is Islam that has taught humanity the value of the intellect, the importance of reflection, and the role of the mind in attaining faith. Christians teach that one can never become a believer except when the Holy Spirit mysteriously occupies one's heart. Islam teaches that faith is the fruit of reason and it is through continuous reflection on the wonders of creation that faith can be obtained, maintained, and nurtured.

It is Islam that has has taught humanity that people of all races, all colors, all ethnicities are perfectly capable of attaining faith in the One and Only God. Hindus believe that Hinduism is just for those privileged to be born in the faith and therefore they do not invite the "less privileged" to embrace their faith. Jews believe that they are the chosen race and even when they accept others to embrace Judaism, those converts are always lower in rank than those born as Jews. Islam rejects all that and calls upon all people of all backgrounds to submit themselves to their Creator. Once they do, they automatically become members of the community of Islam with the same rights and duties as any other Muslim. Islam is not, and can never be, the monopoly of one race or a certain linguistic group.

It is Islam that has taught humanity that God is absolutely Just and Merciful and that He will never punish one person for the sins of others. Christianity teaches that Adam and Eve had bequeathed their sin to all their descendants and thus all humans are born in this "Original Sin" and therefore Jesus Christ had to be sacrificed on the cross to redeem humanity of its 'original sin.' Islam says, NO. Humans are not born in sin. No person will be held accountable for another's mistakes. Every soul will pay for its own deeds, only. Divine justice is absolute.

It is Islam that has taught humanity that righteous deeds are necessary for salvation. Faith is indispensable, but not sufficient. Humans will be admitted to Paradise by their faith and their righteous acts. They have to go together, hand in hand. Many Christian denominations teach that faith in Jesus is enough for salvations. If you accept Jesus sacrifice on the cross, then you are saved regardless of what you may do afterwards because Jesus has already paid for all your sins. Islam totally disagrees. No one can pay for your sins. Faith, doing righteousness, avoiding evil, and continuous repentance are the only ways for salvation. Islam does not accept, nor condone the corrupting influence on the individual as well as the society that can be caused by the idea of a "guaranteed" salvation.

It is Islam that has taught humanity how to balance the needs of this life and the next. Islam does not accept the idea that renunciation of this world is the best means to get salvation in the next. Catholicism and Buddhism teach that by living a reclusive life, one can attain higher spirituality. Buddhism even taught the recluse must make his living by begging. Islam rejects the whole notion of the alleged goodness of renouncing the world. Islam teaches that best means for advancement in the next life is by getting involved in the affairs of this world by commanding good and forbidding evil; by helping one another in righteousness and piety; by doing Jihad, by struggling against all forms of evil, injustice, tyranny, intolerance...Islam does not teach rejection of the world, it teaches involvement, struggle, and change.

It is Islam that has taught humanity that kindness to parents, to kin, to neighbors, and to fellow humans is an essential part of faith and righteousness. Christianity claims that Jesus has taught that one cannot come closer to God unless one hates one's father, mother, wife, children,... (Luke 14:26) Islam teaches the opposite. One cannot come closer to God unless one acts so kindly towards one's mother, father, family, neighbours, etc.

It is Islam that has taught humanity that God is very close to them and that He is with them wherever they are and that He hears their prayers and respond to them. Islam teaches that God is so close that He needs no intermediaries to mediate between Him and His servants. Islam does not accept the concept of priesthood and clergy acting as mediators between God and humans. Islam teaches that one does not have to confess one's sins to a priest in order to get forgiveness. One can simply confess one's sins to God without any human intervention, seek forgiveness, and God will grant it. Many Jews today still believe that prayers cannot reach God and get a response from Him unless the prayer is made at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem. Some even fax their prayers or send it via the Internet to Jerusalem so that someone there would take it and put it on the Wailing Wall to reach God. Islam teaches that wherever one maybe, one can pray to God, confess to God, seek God's help and forgiveness, and God will certainly respond. No human intervention is needed, no special place or time is necessary. God is always very close.

It is Islam that has taught humans to accept and respect their human nature. Islam recognizes the strengths, the weaknesses, and the needs of humans. Islam never requires humans to behave as angels or to ignore their physical and emotional needs. Christianity does not allow divorce. Islam recognizes it as a human reality. Catholicism considers celibacy an ideal. Islam does not. The Anglican Church frowns upon second marriages. Prince Charles in order to become King of England has to behave as a practicing Anglican. Therefore, he can commit adultery openly with his famous mistress but he cannot marry her or else he will lose the throne for violating the rules of the Church of England. Islam never engages in such irrationality and moral contradictions.

There is nothing like Islam on earth. There is no faith, no religion, no ideology, no system of belief that can rival Islam in its clarity and simplicity ; in its submission to God, the One and Only; in its rationality and intellectual depth; in its egalitarianism and equality; in its spirituality; in its code of ethics; in its unparalleled balance between the needs of this life and the demands of the hereafter. Islam has elevated the human soul, body, and mind to heights that have never been reached by any other faith or tradition. Islam is the only religion that has truly enabled human beings to fulfill their humanity.

Islam is like a perfect piece of art at which the human eye can keep looking and scrutinizing for days, weeks, years on end and still can find no flaws, no defects, and no contradictions. All the human eye can do is to keep wondering at the amazing beauty and coherence of this faith of ours: Islam. Leopold Wiess, the Austrian Jew who embraced Islam in 1926 and became one of the greatest Muslim intellects of the twentieth century has expressed the same level of astonishment at the overwhelming beauty and coherence of Islam, "I was asked, time and again: 'Why did you embrace Islam ? What was it that attracted you particularly ?' -- and I must confess: I don't know of any satisfactory answer. It was not any particular teaching that attracted me, but the whole wonderful, inexplicably coherent structure of moral teaching and practical life programme. I could not say, even now, which aspect of it appeals to me more than any other. Islam appears to me like a perfect work of architecture. All its parts are harmoniously conceived to complement and support each other: nothing is superfluous and nothing lacking, with the result of an absolute balance and solid composure. Probably this feeling that everything in the teachings and postulates of Islam is 'in its proper place,' has created the strongest impression on me."

In a nutshell, Islam is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
It is important to note that Islam is not just a set of ideals, it is a
tremendous force capable of transforming and regenerating individuals as well societies and whole nations. The influence of Islam upon the first society that embraced it, the Arabian peninsula, was nothing short of a revolution. Islam has revolutionized Arabia in all aspects of life: politically, economically, socially, and above all morally:

It was Islam that transformed the fiercely independent-minded Arabs who knew no government, obeyed no authority, recognized no state into a nation with a government, a capital, and a respected authority.

It was Islam that taught the anarchic Arabs how to elect a head of state from among themselves and how to run their government upon principles of mutual consultation.

It was Islam that taught the Arabs who never agreed on any form of law to build a nation based on the rule of one sacred, just, and merciful law. Islam also taught them that they were all equals before the law and no one even the daughter of the Prophet was above the law.

It was Islam that transformed the intensely militant Arabs from a group of tribes massacring each other all the time -- to the extent that they had to agree on four months of peace every year to prevent their whole race from extinction due to the incessant wars -- into one nation with united tribal armies able to confront and defeat the armies of the surrounding superpowers: the Byzantines and the Sassanids.

It was Islam that abolished usury from Arabia and taught the Arabs how to make business transactions justly and fairly without exploitation or abuse.
It was Islam that abolished the gruesome habit of female infanticide from Arabia.

It was Islam that taught the Arabs that women were full human beings, not mere chattel, and that they were their sisters in humanity and in faith. It was Islam that guaranteed for Arabian women their rights to: inheritance, property, divorce, and independent legal personality.

It was Islam that eradicated Alcohol, with all its evils, from Arabia.
It was Islam that ended all forms of prostitution, gambling, and intoxicants from the Arabian society. And it was Islam that opened all doors for freeing slaves.

It was Islam that uprooted racism from the Arab mind completely to the extent that the deeply racist and arrogant Arabs would accept to be soldiers in armies whose leaders were black Africans.

And above all, it was Islam that transformed the idolatrous and superstitious Arabs into believers in the One and Only God. It was Islam that transformed them from idol worshippers into a people who stand together in one line in prayer and prostrate their heads to the Almighty.

Arabia before Islam was a society bound by tradition and precedent. Whatever was customary was right and proper. Whatever the forefathers had done deserved to be imitated. Islam rejected this blind faith in tradition. Islam challenged all the customs of the society. Islam questioned all the mores and manners of the Arabs. Islam introduced to them the standards of morality and the fundamentals of right and wrong. Islam taught them how to think critically of everything around them and how to reject the bad habits and keep the good ones. Islam showed them the proper way for peace and happiness in this life and felicity in the next. This was the essence of the revolution that Islam was.

The question that irresistibly comes to the mind is this: that was the past, what about now? Can Islam revolutionize the world today as it did to seventh century Arabia? Is Islam relevant today? Does Islam have anything to offer today's world? Yes, a great deal.

For us, Muslims living in the West, it would be reasonable to focus on what Islam has to offer to our Western society at the dawn of a new millennium. The West, as the seventh century Arabia and as any other society for that matter, has its own virtues as well as vices. Islam can improve and enhance all the virtues while eliminating -- or, at least, minimizing -- the vices.
In a society where alcohol is the number one cause of criminal death and injury; where alcohol costs billions of dollars each year in medical expenses and property damage; where alcohol consumption causes the death of hundreds of thousands of people annually; where alcohol is a major cause of rape and domestic violence -- Is there any faith more able than Islam to prevent all the ills of alcohol?

In a society still tormented by racial strife; where "black" churches are continuously fire-bombed by bigots of all kinds; where one rarely sees a black person in a "white" church or a white person in a "black" church -- Islam has so much to offer because Islam does not tolerate the very idea of a "black" mosque or a "white" mosque; Islam obliges believers to stand together in one line, shoulder to shoulder and foot to foot, and prostrate their foreheads to God so that they learn they are all humble servants of the Almighty.

In a society where violence against women has risen to alarming proportions, where it is not safe for women to walk alone in the dark, where even institutions of higher learning have to provide 'walk home service' to protect women on campus at night - Islam has much more to contribute than escort services or karate lessons. Islam does implant modesty and sense of propriety in the minds of the believers, Islam eradicates vulgarity, Islam eliminates any possibility that men view women as sex objects.

In a society as violent as the United States where some 25000 lives are taken every year by handguns alone; where 5% of the world population consume 50% of the world's illegal drugs despite the arrest of some 700,000 drug dealers every year; where a car is stolen every few seconds; where a woman is raped every few minutes - Islam has a lot more to offer than merely putting more cops in the streets. Islam teaches that prevention is better than cure and that crime can best be reduced by taking care of the family, the community, and the neighborhood. Islam attaches great esteem and honor to the role of the mother because when she takes proper care of her children, the whole society benefits. Islam reminds the fathers of their duties, encourages the neighbors to take care of each other's needs, strengthen community bonds, advocates commanding what is right and forbidding what is wrong instead of apathy and individualism. Islam always eliminates problems from their roots.

In a society afflicted with intense individualism, excessive materialism, fierce consumerism, and unabashed sensualism; Islam has the intellectual and the spiritual power required to rectify all the excesses of the society because Islam preaches moderation and balance in all worldly and other-worldly affairs.

The influence of Islam is not limited to the social and moral domains, it extends to the political, economic, legal, cultural, and educational realms as well. Two examples should suffice.

In the realm of politics: the egalitarian nature of Islam requires major reforms in the way democracy is practiced in the society today. As it stands, the existing democracy is elitist and lopsided in favor of the wealthy, the powerful, and the special interests.The average person almost has no meaningful say in how things are run by the elite. This state of affairs falls far short of the ideal of mutual consultation in all affairs advocated by Islam.
In the realm of economics: capitalism left unregulated has a tendency to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. In a period of ten years only (1978-1987) the poorest fifth of the American population got 8% poorer while the richest fifth got 13% richer. This is the nature of capitalism; wealth breeds more wealth, sometimes even without any effort or creativity. Islam obliges all rich people to pay part of their wealth annually to the poor so that the wealth gets redistributed in the society in order to protect the poor from perpetual poverty and give them a fair chance to compete in a world dominated by the tyranny of capital.

There is so much in Islam that can truly make the West, and indeed the whole world, a safer, better, and more decent place to live in. Islam is a formidable force with potential great enough to revolutionize the world and radically change the course of history as it once did some 1400 years ago.

That is why we love Islam!
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anonymous
01-05-2010, 08:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by - Qatada -
:salamext:

Personally, i recommend you start listening to some new Islamic talks to increase you in emaan, since an idle mind which dwells on issues which are not applicable today becomes decieved by false arguments.

So i recommend you check out this site;

http://bayyinah.com/dream - download some amazing talks on the Qur'an, since it is the connection between us and Allah. He proves how the Qur'an really is the miracle from Him. It's a real emaan booster. :)

Check it out. Then tell us how your emaan feels after a few of these talks.

Allahu a'lam.
:wa:

Thanks! I do need something to strengthen my relationship with Allah. I hope

@ Hamza81

Wow amazing post.

I am going to copy and print this topic as a reminder. Thanks everyone!
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IbnAbdulHakim
01-05-2010, 08:52 PM
your going through the battle of accepting that "Allah knows best" and that you know nothing.

i hope you succeed.
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