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S<Chowdhury
01-15-2010, 10:38 PM
I guess I should start from the beginning but hopefully I can find away back to Islam at the end of it... Both my parents are traditional Muslims with traditional conservative values. So obv i was brought up in the traditional way learning Arabic, reading the Koran etc. I never questioned Islam as a child and I did what was expected of me. But living in a western society peer pressure and being a teenager social life caught up with me and i choose a bad path which my parents followed me down, at the age of 15/16 my parents came down on me hard, truthfully there was a lot of argument, fights and tears... but i found the right path again.

Now Im 18 and well though i found the right path in terms of morals and education, spirtually Im more confused than ever. Since the age of 15 I've never prayed for the right reasons, either my mother nagged me till i did or just for the sake of my mum not nagging me. And at the peak of my teen craziness i didn't touch the prayer mat let alone the mosque, rather more interested in what the devil had to offer me from parties to well I'm gonna be truthful sex before marriage.

Now that I've 'calmed down' and taking the path to adulthood the spiritual aspects begin to dawn on me. For sometime I've been lying to my parents my again doing what suppose to be expected of me, Salah, Friday Prayers at the mosque and saying all the right things at the right times. Privately i have my reservations about Islam, currently again I'm living in sin I have a GF and she's atheist, the reason I'm here is because of her she made me realises i need to be honest about how i feel instead of keeping everything behind close doors because its a bigger sin to know your sinning but do nothing to stop it or something like that I'm not sure really?

My values have changed since as well, hence the reason I have a gf and we are sexually active. Moreover i guess good things have come out of this as well personally im more tolerant of all other religions and politically well I'm a liberal i guess. But this doesn't make what I'm doing right i suppose, don't get me wrong i believe there is a God but is Islam what i truly believe in, ? on that question for now. The few Muslim friends I have apart from family, i confided in them and they said i need to talk to my Imam, unfortunately i haven't spoken to my Imam since i was 9 and i don't even have his number.

Truthfully I'm scared of whats happened, i have forgotten how to read the Koran, i haven't touched it in how many years God knows, im forgetting the surah's i've learned. And now i barely even roll out my prayer rug, I'm in soo deep that it feels like there is no going back i guess this is my wake up call....... What do I do imsad

Thanx 2 every1 who replies :statisfie
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Alpha Dude
01-15-2010, 11:21 PM
:sl:

Perhaps you could start off by making a list of your reservations and try to find answers for them?
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bewildred
01-15-2010, 11:26 PM
Why don't you just set priorities? You know what you crave for and obviously you don't resist it. You know what Islam is made of. You have to choose. Never try to explain your acts with your age.

May Allah guide you.
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S<Chowdhury
01-15-2010, 11:48 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
:sl:

Perhaps you could start off by making a list of your reservations and try to find answers for them?
hmm i guess you are right well to be honest many of the rules to me seem ludicrous in Islam, i guess in religion you need strict rules, but why listening to music is a sin is beyond me?

I find some of the rules biased towards male gender rather than equality, though people tell me not complain, I've always believed in equality.

I find the rule of not being able to mix with the opposite sex a bit ridiculous, since its the 21st Century, believe it or not just because you mix with opposite sex doesnt mean you'll end up having sex b4 marriage.

Apart from the general rules mostly I've had this issue with Islam and Christianity from what I've learnt, i find that there are many similarities between the two faiths. Yet didn't Christianity come first? So is Islam just a follow up from Christianity which could of been the right religion and Islam just seems to copy it but be a bit more stricter. I know I've generalised it a bit too much but overall in simple terms that is just 1 the many reservations I've had about it. Thanx 4 your reply though brother
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desert winds
01-15-2010, 11:49 PM
Look, teen years are hard. I understand. But you are revealling your sins to us. This is bad. Why are you telling us your a adulterer? I understand you want to explain but never reveal sin.it angers Allah.
Now. Firstly this g.f. You either marry her and have her accept islam. A wife is lawful or you ditch this girl and sort your life out.
You really need to know why salah is important. Why should we pray? Cose Allah ordered us to and made us only so we worship him. Then do a dua. Be honest, open your heart to allah. He knows everything but he will love if u speak to him rather than any man. Tell him you want righteousness, ask for his mercy( read terms and conditions for this!) Tell him EVERYTHING. inshallah he will hold your hand, and when he does, you will feel like you can fly. That is the hand that never lets go.
I hope i made sense and i hope u find peace because your current lifestyle seems empty and meaningless. And thats how things are without Allah.
I dont want to go on. So il leave it at that.
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S<Chowdhury
01-15-2010, 11:53 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by bewildred
Why don't you just set priorities? You know what you crave for and obviously you don't resist it. You know what Islam is made of. You have to choose. Never try to explain your acts with your age.

May Allah guide you.
Do we really know what Islam is made of? Its written in foreign tongue that i personally don't understand, I'm not sure about you brother if you understand the language but it was written over 1400 years ago, so are we really getting the truth or is it like Chinese whispers where a lot of things have been lost in translation etc
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 12:00 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by desert winds
Look, teen years are hard. I understand. But you are revealling your sins to us. This is bad. Why are you telling us your a adulterer? I understand you want to explain but never reveal sin.it angers Allah.
Now. Firstly this g.f. You either marry her and have her accept islam. A wife is lawful or you ditch this girl and sort your life out.
You really need to know why salah is important. Why should we pray? Cose Allah ordered us to and made us only so we worship him. Then do a dua. Be honest, open your heart to allah. He knows everything but he will love if u speak to him rather than any man. Tell him you want righteousness, ask for his mercy( read terms and conditions for this!) Tell him EVERYTHING. inshallah he will hold your hand, and when he does, you will feel like you can fly. That is the hand that never lets go.
I hope i made sense and i hope u find peace because your current lifestyle seems empty and meaningless. And thats how things are without Allah.
I dont want to go on. So il leave it at that.
**** thats new i thought being open was a good thing,i respect your views sister fair enough, but it angers God that Im open and honest to people ? Speak to God rather than any man but ugh I'm suppose to talk to God but i feel like a child like asking these questions but how do i get reply from God then? Whats the point of talking to God about my sins when he already knows? It aint making sense to me ?:hmm:

More importantly if God Knows I'm going to do bad things before it happens, so my path is layed out before i've done it then why am I being punished for it?
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 12:01 AM
Forgive me if I'm offending anyone, its not what i intended thanx for you reply sister
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Alpha Dude
01-16-2010, 12:13 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
hmm i guess you are right well to be honest many of the rules to me seem ludicrous in Islam, i guess in religion you need strict rules, but why listening to music is a sin is beyond me?

I find some of the rules biased towards male gender rather than equality, though people tell me not complain, I've always believed in equality.

I find the rule of not being able to mix with the opposite sex a bit ridiculous, since its the 21st Century, believe it or not just because you mix with opposite sex doesnt mean you'll end up having sex b4 marriage.

Apart from the general rules mostly I've had this issue with Islam and Christianity from what I've learnt, i find that there are many similarities between the two faiths. Yet didn't Christianity come first? So is Islam just a follow up from Christianity which could of been the right religion and Islam just seems to copy it but be a bit more stricter. I know I've generalised it a bit too much but overall in simple terms that is just 1 the many reservations I've had about it. Thanx 4 your reply though brother
Thank you. Ok. These questions arise as symptoms of not having the required yaqeen (faith) in the first place. The root question your heart is asking you is "why should I believe Muhammad SAW spoke the truth?". It's an understandable question. Can I ask, have you ever read the biography (seerah) of the Prophet SAW?

The thing is, once you completely have faith that Muhammad SAW spoke the truth, you will strive to do exactly as he said, so all that you question in the post I quoted would become non-issues. You would realise that Islam is the true sense of guidance and the 21st century supposed 'enlightenment' does not have the answers.
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Muhammad
01-16-2010, 12:20 AM
The cure for doubt is knowledge. So perhaps you should start reading Islamic books. Go back to the basics. It's apparent from your posts that you really need to do this, and this will help to answer your questions. If you have faith in Allaah (swt), then everything else will fall into place Insha'Allaah.

Don't let shaytaan deceive you into thinking you've gone 'too deep'. Remember that Allaah (swt) is the Most Merciful and loves to forgive. You only have to ask...

May Allaah (swt) guide you and fill your heart with the light of Islam, Aameen.
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desert winds
01-16-2010, 12:23 AM
Let me tell you what is happening to you. Your in conflict. A small part of you has realised, that Allah is calling you. But this shaytaan is holding you back. The point of talking to God- only he can help you , and he will love that you are talking to him. allah loves us sn much, more than how mother loves her own child. Ok, the sins part. Imagine someone comits a crime. You go to his parents and hide it, cover it. Then ur frend tells ur parents. Its like your frend just slapped you in the face.
I want you to forget about music. Your not at the stage to give it up yet.
You need to open to Allah. He can only help you. And when u talk to him he will inshallah fill your heart with comfort. Thats when you will know.
True everything is written already, but dont you see, it was written for you to question yourself, for you to come here. Why? Because i believe your righteous. Maybe you will taste bit of islam and go back to bad ways but i feel even if you do, 1 day you wil bounce back up.
Your seeking answers.this is a good thing.
Now the quran. Written years ago but does apply even today. The book of Allah is complete. Doesnt matter what day and age you are in. Islam is 100%
True through translation bits are lost, but it gives us understanding.
Heres what you should do. First pillar. Shahada.believe in allah and messengers. This is first step. Research. Why islam, allah-how and why? Proofs etc.
Your a good kid. I got a feeling about you.
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abu_musab461
01-16-2010, 01:00 AM
i will try to answer from my basic knowledge and keep the answers short as not to bore everyone

I find some of the rules biased towards male gender rather than equality, though people tell me not complain, I've always believed in equality.
As you know men and women are not exactly identical they have strentghs and weakness. Unfortunaly in this society women are in fact made to feel inferior by making them compete with men in the work place etc...

We all have our role that we have been created for and we excell above the others in this,

eg. women are natural home makers and mothers.
men are natural bred winners.

when you mingle the two you start getting social probelms and stress.

Allah is the All-wise and All-Knowing. He is the one who created us and Knows best about what is right and wrong for us, good and bad for us.

He is in fact of Infinite Wisdom and Knowledge

where as we are limited in both. So if we dont understand why God has done x y or z we need to try to understand, not reject or rebel- because that is the way of iblis when he was commanded to bow down to Adam.

Its ok to ask questions for the sake of clarification and understanding, even things that might seem taboo, but to question God or reject Him based on the fact you failed to understand something is not just.
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CosmicPathos
01-16-2010, 01:17 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
**** thats new i thought being open was a good thing,i respect your views sister fair enough, but it angers God that Im open and honest to people ? Speak to God rather than any man but ugh I'm suppose to talk to God but i feel like a child like asking these questions but how do i get reply from God then? Whats the point of talking to God about my sins when he already knows? It aint making sense to me ?:hmm:

More importantly if God Knows I'm going to do bad things before it happens, so my path is layed out before i've done it then why am I being punished for it?
If God knows that you are going to do bad things, then why should God punish you? Well, rationally, you did the bad things yourself, didnt ya? Did God force you to do bad things? Just because He is all-KNowing, He should not punish you for what your hands have earned? This is one the earlier symptoms which shows one is falling into atheism or at least agnosticism. Yes, God has pre-determined your life. But no one knows what your life pre-determined to be. it could be anything from infinite pathways. You will decide what pathway you take. Once something has become a matter of past, it means that is exactly what God willed. Since you had fornication with this atheist girl, it mean God had willed it. But God did not force you to do it. You did it yourself. Dont blame God, blame yourself. If you had chosen not to do it, that would mean that God would have willed that. Its as simple as that. God' predetermining our life means that He utilized His all-knowing skills of what actions we will do and based on them as a whole, He wrote them down in the Book and that is exactly what pre-determination means. It is a complex topic and I have only extremely summarized it. But that is the general gist of it. So God can will whatever He wants but He is Merciful and He has willed, for most purposes, what He knows we would do.

If you feel that you need to believe in God, start by dumping this atheist girl friend (who knows she MIGHT dump you if you accept Islam, if she MIGHT thing you are an option for her, why do you make her a priority, I am not judging her, just pointing out to an alternate outcome). Is she also an ex-Muslim? You are not in a position to give her dawah right now as you yourself are in doubt due to the effects of her company on you. If you feel that you have done bad, dump this girl, at least for the moment. Seek knowledge and develop certainty that God exists. After taking all these steps, you still cannot come to a certainty that God exists then it means your bad company with atheist girl friends has had deep impacts in your life. ...

I pray to God to give you guidance and take away from all those who rebel against God by rejecting His very Omnipotent presence which cannot be seen yet its obvious. If God exists, I am 100% certain that He does, then He has all the right to punish the atheists because they rebelled against Him. If the atheists claim that there was no sufficient evidence, God can simply point out to them and tell, "yet you see those believers, they felt they had enough evidence to believe in me ...." or something along those lines because of course I do not know what God would says but I do know How He will treat as it is written in His book the Quran.

You are wrong in assuming that your tolerance of other religions is because you have given up on Islam and lived in the company of an atheist girl. Thats a very illogical view. Many Muslims are tolerant of other religions, probably more than you, yet they are Muslims. So to think that you have become liberal and a tolerant human being due to atheism, that would be a delusion, just that.

and what do you mean "a book written in foreign language?" If I did not know English, would it be moral for me to shrug off your request for help by saying "what is this madman talking in a foreign language?" Develop some humility and then you can work it out by God's help.
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MartyrX
01-16-2010, 02:24 AM
Well you're 18 and that age is well interesting to say the least. It comes with a good amount of pressure from the outside as well inside yourself. No one is perfect and you've come to the conclusion that you have made mistakes and want to correct them. That is the first step to making amends for your sins.

I can not nor will I speak on you and your girlfriend's relationship. It is none of my business and I can not pass judgement on you for what you do. However people change and grow as the years pass. It is possible that she could turn to Islam if she reads the Quran. It is always possible for anyone to learn the true path especially if they weren't raised in a religious environment or one that had much exposure to Islam. However that is for her to decide on her own. It is possible that Allah brought the two of you together for that very reason. I don't know though as that is for Allah to reveal to the two of you.
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zakirs
01-16-2010, 06:39 AM
:sl:

Nice , for one atleast you have started pondering.

Since you seem to be reluctant to hear anything foreign language has to say , try watching this video .This will clear up somnehting for u .( documentary on islam by CBS)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2718589390618#


Start Reading quran , in what ever language u please. Listen to its recitations.
http://www.quranexplorer.com/

Forget about small things as of now.. Ponder about God who created you and brought to this place.Hope you find peace :)
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 11:15 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by desert winds
I want you to forget about music. Your not at the stage to give it up yet. You need to open to Allah. He can only help you. And when u talk to him he will inshallah fill your heart with comfort. Thats when you will know.

True everything is written already, but dont you see, it was written for you to question yourself, for you to come here. messengers. This is first step. Research. Why islam, allah-how and why? Proofs etc.
Your a good kid. I got a feeling about you.
Thank you for your kind words sister, i read your comment before i fell asleep last night, and I'm starting to understand. I opened up this morning to Allah but it was understandably hard to open up and didn't feel right but i guess that because i haven't done it for so long. I'm willing to try and have a open mind as i try to find the right path". So what texts would anyone recommend for me to read apart from the English translation of the Quran ?
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glo
01-16-2010, 11:20 AM
Welcome to the forum, S<Chowdhury.:welcome:

Can I ask you if you still believe in God?
If so, have you tried spending time with him in prayer and asking him for guidance?
I think desert wind's advice to open your heart and soul and mind to God is an excellent one.
Be expectant to hear from God! Listen to his small voice in your heart!

I hope and pray that things go well for you. :)
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Alpha Dude
01-16-2010, 11:25 AM
So what texts would anyone recommend for me to read apart from the English translation of the Quran ?
A good biography of the Prophet SAW. There's one called the Sealed Nectar which is available online as a pdf. There's also Ibn Kathir's Stories of the Prophets which is also available online. I'd advise these definitely. If you're relatively distant from the religion, learning about them give you perspective on what this life is and what role religion plays.
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 11:39 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Wa7abiScientist
Is she also an ex-Muslim?
and what do you mean "a book written in foreign language?" If I did not know English, would it be moral for me to shrug off your request for help by saying "what is this madman talking in a foreign language?" Develop some humility and then you can work it out by God's help.
Thank you for helping answer one of the questions about pre-determination, it was insightful. Firstly, No my gf isn't an Ex-Muslim, she used to believe in Christianity but certain incidents in her life led her away from God totally.

Secondly, forgive me if i sounded a little crude in my topic. Many things in Islam do anger me and therefore i get a little passionate about it, and when i meant its written in foreign language. When the Imams recite these words in Arabic, how many of us really know what he's saying its seems like we just all nod along without actually knowing the meaning of the word, i am not saying everyone but it feels the majority don't have the a total picture of what is being said, sometimes i even wonder do the Imams themselves know? Its all good regurgitating the words of Allah, but shouldn't we be able to actually fully understand what's being said?

I guessing you are very literate in Arabic?

With due respects to be honest as children and my own experience when you learn Arabic you learn the alphabet etc etc and then you read the Quran but in my own experience i was never taught what the words actually meant, i could recite the Quran at one point perfectly but what did it all mean that was never taught to me. I am not sure if that's how its done now?

I guess you are right it is the effect of my GF company that i realised I've been a Muslim for over 15yrs but when ever she asks me a question about my faith i draw blanks "?". But without her i would of let myself go on practising a religion that i don't know much about. I know the basic what to do and what not to do but then even the Kafir's know them.
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 11:57 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by desert winds
Now. Firstly this g.f. You either marry her and have her accept islam. A wife is lawful or you ditch this girl and sort your life out.
Forgive me again if i come out sounding a bit rude but Marriage seems like the only way for you to mix with the opposite sex, my mother has a fit if I'm seen with a girl who is actually my friend. It sounds very medieval, one brother answered by saying and i totally respect your view brother that

when you mingle the two you start getting social probelms and stress?

How does me walking with my friend and talking to her turn into a social problem, Am I showing indecent behaviour by talking to her? I see the stress part in terms of my parents stressing but it seems ludicrous.

But marrying at the age of 18 isn't the smartest thing to do plus there is a whole issue surrounding her ethnicity and my family approving etc but if i do marry her lawfully does she have to convert to Islam? i know this sounds a bit naive and unintelligent, but I've seen Muslim brothers marry non-believers is it possible for me to still be Muslim whilst having a Non-believer spouse? My gut instinct is No obv but i'd still like clarification.

But again this is only a small issue i think i need concentrate about finding faith in God again firstly.

thanx for your reply brothers and sisters especially that video about Muhammad SAW from brother zakirs
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sevgi
01-16-2010, 12:00 PM
I want you to read every sentence I am going to write to you very very carefully.

First and foremost, I want you to know that you have struck a chord with me and that I care for you as a sister would care for a brother. You are younger than me but I see me and many other young men and women in you.

Secondly, I want you to know that yes, you have done things that are wrong. But you must believe that Allah is all merciful.

I want you to stop what you are doing right now and clear your mind as you read this and I want you to imagine you are alone with your conscience right now.

I am your sister. And If I see my brother in pain, I will run to him and give him all that I can in order to ease his pain.

You are a very special young man. Many years ago, this big cloud in our minds called Allah rose up and for some crazy reason thought up the design for this young man I know as s<choudhary. He designed a figure, a body, a voice and a mind for you. But that wasnt it...he designed a very very intricate path for you...a life in which he placed you to live, to love and enjoy. On this path he designed very intricate steps and stages for you to tread on and cross. He designed problems and issues specifically designed to hurt you and make you think and to change you.

He could have created you as a rock, a frog, a peice of skin on someone elses body...but he created you as a human being. He wanted you to experience life as a human. And so far you are living up to that very well.

These are the things he gave us all. But then there are the blessings. He gave you the blessing of being born a muslim, the blessing of living in a western/advanced economy. He gave you the blessing of being able to love and to be loved. He gave you the blessing of a family who give a crap about you and what you are doing with you life.

Now my dear brother...you have a little bit of an understanding of this cloud in your mind...this thing we call your creator.

At this point in reading this post, if you are questioning whether or not what Im saying is true, that is, whether or not he really did create you, stop and let me know. Because if this part doesnt not fit well with what you are thinking and believing, this is where we have to start building you.

But if you believe everything I have said til now, read on.

Your creator created you. Just as ever chair, every clock, every painting has its creator/designer...so do you. Just as every tv has its maker, so do you. It is logic. Every chair and tv has its proper use. And the proper use is best known by its creator.

If, centuries ago I had come across a chair and didnt know what the hell it was, I would maybe use it as...say, a door stopper. But the guy who made it knows very clearly that he intended for me to sit on it.

Just the same, your creator has the manual for you. He knows how best you could be put to use. He knows your proper use. He knows what the proper use for all humans are and he has prescribed us an amazing set of rules and guides to follow in order to function properly. Besides this, he has let us know the rules and guides for us to not only function properly, but to also better ourselves and enhance ourselves. Moreover, he has arranged a lifelong set of lessons for you and only you, not every human, but just you, s>choudhary, to allow you to function properly and become the best s<choudhary that you can be.

Islam is not a set of rules. The word religion is a stupid, stupid word. Islam is really just a manual for us to fnction properly...and believe me my dear brother, I hit the lowest of lows to realise the wisdom and logic behind all the guides and rules my creator prescribed for me.

So I want you to stop and ignore everything that you think you know about islam. Prayer, music being haram etc etc etc. I want you to tune into your conscience and ask yourself if you are ready to live in the best way for humans to live. I want you to ask yourself if you want to live in a way which has been prescribed to you by the 'cloud in your head' that created you and knows you better than yourself.

If yes, welcome to Islam. But Islam isnt about being a good person. Everyone can be a good person. You dont lie, dont drink, dont have sex with someone elses wife and youre a great person. Top job. But being a good person doesnt mean that you are putting your humanness to its proper use. It doesnt mean that you are becoming the best s>choudhary you can be. There is a reason why your creator got up and went to all this 'effort' to design and plan you and your life. You think it was so you could be a good person just like every other john and jane? Why not just create 6billion janes then? Why create s>choudhary?

You are here because you must serve your time as a human and pay off your dues for being a human. Living in the consiousness of yoru creator is the first step to becoming a true human being. Living in consciousness of your conscience which is essentially your direct phone line with your creator is teh second step to living as a true human.

Is music haram? who gives a crap. Is this the best you could do against such a deep and serious relationship with your creator? Islam is not about music. It is about you and your connection with youself and your connection with your creator. When the time comes for you to question whther music is haram or not, you can guage it for yourself in an appropriate way. Your prayer mat is yours and you are blessed to have one. your prayers are not for you to enjoy or complain about either. Your prayers are your way of stepping up and saying "yep, im here, just like you told me to god, and i know you are here too" The wisdom behind why he wants you to pray will be reavealed to you because prayer has its own use in making every individual the best that they can be. Why five times a day? Why bend over? Why read that surah? Because, your creator knows exactly what you as a human need to function as a human-a human who also has a soul.

Live in his name and die in his name. God may be a cloud in your mind or to athiests, might be a great fallback to explain certain things-but one thing is certain. If the God up in the sky doesnt exist for you, the one within you making you come on this forum and ask these questions via your conscience is very very real. Hold on to that reality and begin the journey for your life.
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 12:12 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by glo
Welcome to the forum, S<Chowdhury.:welcome:

Can I ask you if you still believe in God?
If so, have you tried spending time with him in prayer and asking him for guidance?
I think desert wind's advice to open your heart and soul and mind to God is an excellent one.
Be expectant to hear from God! Listen to his small voice in your heart!

I hope and pray that things go well for you. :)
Thanx for the kind words but you sound very well i don't think optimistic is the right word but i can't think of the word lmao.

I believe there is a God but with a lot of religions its difficult to understand why there are so many variations?

I tried this morning to attempt to pray but its difficult for me now but hopefully if i keep trying maybe it'll get easier. But since i began this whole topic of finding Islam again, I guess i realised that I am no longer afraid of Allah or the hell fire. I know this is terrible but as search deeper to find myself spiritual self, I find I am more further away from God than I first thought.
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bewildred
01-16-2010, 12:37 PM
First off, let's just say that I'll be less comprehensive than the bros or sisters who replied above.

What do you really want? You said that you strayed from Islam but have you ever been a Muslim? You don't know much about this religion. You doubt most of its principles. You don't accept lots of them. The gf seems to have an influencial effect on you. You look like to never find any comfort in any of the advice that were given to you by my caring bros and sisters.

So, my question is again "WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT?" What do you expect from us here since you're closed to everyhting's that's related to Islam. I'd have been more forgiving if you didn't show much exuberance in expressing your own contradictions: Oh yeah, I want to embrace the Islam but it's an old religion written in an ole linguo that has nothing to do with mine; I know that fornication is forbidden in Islam and yet my gf and I are sexually active.............

HEY boyo, wake up!!!! You know what's right and what's wrong. Take your side. Are you sure you're gonna wake up tomorrow??????
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sevgi
01-16-2010, 12:47 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by bewildred
First off, let's just say that I'll be less comprehensive than the bros or sisters who replied above.

What do you really want? You said that you strayed from Islam but have you ever been a Muslim? You don't know much about this religion. You doubt most of its principles. You don't accept lots of them. The gf seems to have an influencial effect on you. You look like to never find any comfort in any of the advice that were given to you by my caring bros and sisters.

So, my question is again "WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT?" What do you expect from us here since you're closed to everyhting's that's related to Islam. I'd have been more forgiving if you didn't show much exuberance in expressing your own contradictions: Oh yeah, I want to embrace the Islam but it's an old religion written in an ole linguo that has nothing to do with mine; I know that fornication is forbidden in Islam and yet my gf and I are sexually active.............

HEY boyo, wake up!!!! You know what's right and what's wrong. Take your side. Are you sure you're gonna wake up tomorrow??????
Dear sis, he's 18 and he's confused and is just sharing every thing on his mind. He is perhaps more sincere than anyone else here right now. I say we give him a break and go easy on him. If he knew what he wanted, he'd get uo and ask for it or just take it for himself. He doesnt know. Perhaps he hopes that we know what he wants.
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CosmicPathos
01-16-2010, 12:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
Thank you for helping answer one of the questions about pre-determination, it was insightful. Firstly, No my gf isn't an Ex-Muslim, she used to believe in Christianity but certain incidents in her life led her away from God totally.

Secondly, forgive me if i sounded a little crude in my topic. Many things in Islam do anger me and therefore i get a little passionate about it, and when i meant its written in foreign language. When the Imams recite these words in Arabic, how many of us really know what he's saying its seems like we just all nod along without actually knowing the meaning of the word, i am not saying everyone but it feels the majority don't have the a total picture of what is being said, sometimes i even wonder do the Imams themselves know? Its all good regurgitating the words of Allah, but shouldn't we be able to actually fully understand what's being said?

I guessing you are very literate in Arabic?

With due respects to be honest as children and my own experience when you learn Arabic you learn the alphabet etc etc and then you read the Quran but in my own experience i was never taught what the words actually meant, i could recite the Quran at one point perfectly but what did it all mean that was never taught to me. I am not sure if that's how its done now?

I guess you are right it is the effect of my GF company that i realised I've been a Muslim for over 15yrs but when ever she asks me a question about my faith i draw blanks "?". But without her i would of let myself go on practising a religion that i don't know much about. I know the basic what to do and what not to do but then even the Kafir's know them.
Well, I am not quite literate in the Arabic language. But I have access to different translations and many lectures by people who know Arabic. So I take their word for it. When tons of people say the same thing independently, chances are they are not lying. Anyways.

From your name chowdhry, I am guessing you are a desi. That is not the point. I understand that you, as a child, learnt to read Quran, as I did, but never were taught its meaning. Same with me. I memorized the last volume, allhamdulillah, without understanding it. I read Quran without understanding it. yet, unlike you, despite being a skeptic, probably more so than you, I did not feel that I was lacking something. I liked the language, and even if I did not understand it, I found it cool to memorize the artistic work. Maybe you dont find it cool.

Yea most probably your desi parents would not be happy with you marrying a girl of caucasian ethnicity (I am assuming that shes white). Especially if they know that this girl is a mulhid. Well, I feel bad for her that she lost her faith in Christianity due to some events that have happened to her but shes not alone who suffers. There are many people who suffer more than her but their faith only increases. So that means suffering does not necessitate one becomes smarter by questioning religion and then rejecting it. That is beside the point too.

Why are different religions? Well, why are different world views? Why does one person think that democracy is the right way to govern while another thinks that communism is the right way. Who is right? Why are there so many genetic variations? If variation was a standard for declining something's authenticity, you must be the first one to decline yourself! Humans are variable, yet you dont say that humans are a delusion cuz why are there so many of them .....

I personally feel that Islam is the only authentic religion because it has the least number of myths and superstitions. And also it acknowledges that those myths are a part of what is called Eman bil Gayb (faith in the unseen). Not only that, other things collectively overcome the presence of these myths in Islam and prove to me that if there has to be a religion it has to be islam. That means all other religions are excluded within teh caverns of cortex in my brain. If you want to know why there are variations, go and explore them including the religion of atheism (a set of beliefs). I am usually told by them that atheism is the lack of belief in God. Well, it equally could mean a belief in non-existence of God. Sugar-coating words wont make it a reality.

Go and discover what is real .... by removing the lens of materialism.

You tried to pray today and you felt that you are far away from God then you thought. Did you stop for a moment to think that every single atom in your body is praying in its own way. Every single atom is following universal laws. Your body is as awe-inspiring as the cosmos? Ever thought of that? We only have 30,000 genes but ever thought why so many different functions from those genes? Ever thought that you share 98% similarity on genetic basis with monkeys yet that difference of that 2% makes you 98% different from apes .....
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 01:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by bewildred
First off, let's just say that I'll be less comprehensive than the bros or sisters who replied above.

What do you really want? You said that you strayed from Islam but have you ever been a Muslim? You don't know much about this religion. You doubt most of its principles. You don't accept lots of them. The gf seems to have an influencial effect on you. You look like to never find any comfort in any of the advice that were given to you by my caring bros and sisters.

So, my question is again "WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT?" What do you expect from us here since you're closed to everyhting's that's related to Islam. I'd have been more forgiving if you didn't show much exuberance in expressing your own contradictions: Oh yeah, I want to embrace the Islam but it's an old religion written in an ole linguo that has nothing to do with mine; I know that fornication is forbidden in Islam and yet my gf and I are sexually active.............

HEY boyo, wake up!!!! You know what's right and what's wrong. Take your side. Are you sure you're gonna wake up tomorrow??????
Sis your right i guess i do contradict myself and admire the way your less comprehensive to say the least.

Yeah so i need to pick a side but i wish it was easy as that, I have closed everything to Islam but I'm still open to try again, I'm asking the questions to find the answers yes they seem very atheist and I come off a bit rude sometimes let alone seems like I'm rejecting everything that God has said.

To answer the question what do i really want from telling you my problems ? I guess i find it easier to get things of my chest rather bottle it up and maybe I'm looking for a bit of guidance along the way.

I can be honest here rather than the outside world, here i'm only known as S<Chowdhury, but in the real world, the community let alone my family know me, being Blasphemous isn't a good thing in a Islamic community it can get cruel, so for now I rather deceive them till i made my choice.

But I've gone off the topic erm to answer the question what do i want from being here? Guidance, answer many questions i have, i know my right from my wrong morally but in terms of Islam i don't know everything. I want to know the reasons behind why its wrong. If your confused about what i want believe me i am more confused about it than anyone else.

I apologise if i did offend you thou. But you have right as much as anyone else does to comment, and i love the ending of your reply " Are you sure you're gonna wake up tomorrow??????" haha hmmm I'm more than 99.9% sure i will unless you find my exuberance in expressing my own contradictions unbearable enough to come and kill me LMAO I joke sis thanx for you reply
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 01:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Wa7abiScientist
Well, I am not quite literate in the Arabic language. But I have access to different translations and many lectures by people who know Arabic. So I take their word for it. When tons of people say the same thing independently, chances are they are not lying. Anyways.
Brother you seem very educated, judging from your name Scientist I'd assume your profession is that. I'd like to thank you for dedicating your time to write quite a large reply which i read and found more than insightful, and I'd like to make sure that your words didnt fall on a deaf ear so i'll take you up on "Go and discover what is real .... by removing the lens of materialism".

Again thanx for your reply



Ps You referred to a subject close to me, Marxism. Are you a Marxist?
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CosmicPathos
01-16-2010, 01:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
Brother you seem very educated, judging from your name Scientist I'd assume your profession is that. I'd like to thank you for dedicating your time to write quite a large reply which i read and found more than insightful, and I'd like to make sure that your words didnt fall on a deaf ear so i'll take you up on "Go and discover what is real .... by removing the lens of materialism".

Again thanx for your reply



Ps You referred to a subject close to me, Marxism. Are you a Marxist?
I am not working as a scientist right now but I am in the process of adopting that profession, just wanted to clarify that.

No, hehe, I am not marxist. I am what you might loosely refer to as "political Islamist." :)
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 02:13 PM
LMAO Political Islamist, hmm you sound alot more liberal and towards the left, anyway i wish you the very best in becoming a scientist. Regarding my GF though i won't disclose what happened she's lost alot of her family not through natural causes but of other more well let say brutal way by section of her own family, therefore i know other brothers and sisters around the world suffer much more, we are seeing this in Haiti. But i guess in the East people say " Its Gods Will", but its hard for her to see why such a loving and caring God would cause so much pain and suffering not only to her but her family aswell.
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CosmicPathos
01-16-2010, 02:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
LMAO Political Islamist, hmm you sound alot more liberal and towards the left, anyway i wish you the very best in becoming a scientist. Regarding my GF though i won't disclose what happened she's lost alot of her family not through natural causes but of other more well let say brutal way by section of her own family, therefore i know other brothers and sisters around the world suffer much more, we are seeing this in Haiti. But i guess in the East people say " Its Gods Will", but its hard for her to see why such a loving and caring God would cause so much pain and suffering not only to her but her family aswell.
well, she should know that God is not her slave to make her feel loved all the time ... anyways, its off the point. :)

i gotta go now, hope you find your answers.
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AnonymousPoster
01-16-2010, 02:24 PM
Salamu Alaykum,

What you need is to visit the graveyard and look around you, ask yourself and ask Allah why he chose you to be born in a muslim family.

There are so many non-muslims who are leaving everything for Islam and your asking if Islam is the truth?

I am working with someone who probably does not have long to live and i asked her last week to forgive me if i have done any wrong whilst in my care.This is a non-muslim. Your a muslim probably hurt the family, friends, so who else is there left for you to hurt about your comments on Islam.

My family are not muslims and do you know what i worry about them what will happen to them once they leave this world behind.

You have choice choose the Dunya over Islam or choose Islam over the Dunya????

"Allah says he will take Islam away from the nation who do not follow it correctly and give it to a nation who will follow it correctly".

You need to wake up.

Forgive me for being hard but sometimes its the best policy to be tough.

Wasalam
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Esther462
01-16-2010, 02:26 PM
I know it's hard to be a muslim with a none muslim partner. I converted to Islam just over 2 years ago. After my 1st Christmas of being muslim, I feel in love with a none muslim guy so I left Islam to be with him but everytime I tryed to go back to Islam, he woudn't let me imsad. This went on for over a year and half till at the begian of Ramadan, I wanted fast and he said no and so he dumped me. I was really upset because I loved him so my much imsad but then I started to follow Islam again and I'm happier for it. I'm still learning about this faith.
What I'm trying to get at is, to do what you feel right and hand it over to Allah as he will take care of it and show you the right path for your life.
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 02:48 PM
AnonymousGender, i should be the one asking for forgiveness since i think me being a little to honest has angered a few people, but there is no need to ask for forgiveness i don't mind "tough love" approach, but I appreciate the gesture anyway. But the fact is I've lost the fear of God and the hell fire, I am not Pious enough, it use to as a child i would be fearful but i think this is one the reasons I've moved away from Islam but also God, Hell and the Almighty God no longer frightens me anymore, i don't exactly know why but when brothers and sisters talk about the punishments i face i feel nothing.
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 02:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Esther462
I know it's hard to be a muslim with a none muslim partner. I converted to Islam just over 2 years ago. After my 1st Christmas of being muslim, I feel in love with a none muslim guy so I left Islam to be with him but everytime I tryed to go back to Islam, he woudn't let me imsad. This went on for over a year and half till at the begian of Ramadan, I wanted fast and he said no and so he dumped me. I was really upset because I loved him so my much imsad but then I started to follow Islam again and I'm happier for it. I'm still learning about this faith.
What I'm trying to get at is, to do what you feel right and hand it over to Allah as he will take care of it and show you the right path for your life.
Sister, I'am so sorry you've experienced this type of behaviour from a non-believer, but again I'm glad you found Islam again and got rid of this guy, because in no way do i ever believe a man should be able to have such control over your spiritual life let alone tell you not to fast during the month of Ramadan. I see how your faith has prevailed even though he said No, and i applaud your courage, i guess its hard to disobey a person you love but then i guess your love for God is stronger. But this is not the case for me, my GF allows me to worship who i want and leaves that up to me, she doesn't ridicule me for believing in a God nor keep questioning it or i would of been long gone. She herself knows much about religion and she realised whilst spending time with me that though i admitted i was a really moderate Muslim, that really my Muslim faith and in God was virtually non-existent. Therefore she'd ask the questions until she made me realise that i need to either find God again or stop saying I'm a believer.

But I see what you mean about how i should leave everything to God, and let him show me the right path?

anyway thanx for you taking the time to comment sister
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aadil77
01-16-2010, 03:02 PM
Brother what you're doing here right now is a good start, think of this as guidence from Allah - the fact that you've found a source of knowledge.

I think you should start with the complete basics, don't worry about how much you have to learn, everyone here is learning. The best thing you can do right now without any effort at all is to stop any major sins. Give up the girls, clubs etc, it might be hard but alot of us brothers here are of similar age to you and live in UK and we're managing.

The books alpha dude recommended will help you understand the basics.

Please carry on asking questions, no matter what they are, InshAllah you will realise alot.
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 03:52 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77
Brother what you're doing here right now is a good start, think of this as guidence from Allah - the fact that you've found a source of knowledge.

I think you should start with the complete basics, don't worry about how much you have to learn, everyone here is learning. The best thing you can do right now without any effort at all is to stop any major sins. Give up the girls, clubs etc, it might be hard but alot of us brothers here are of similar age to you and live in UK and we're managing.

The books alpha dude recommended will help you understand the basics.

Please carry on asking questions, no matter what they are, InshAllah you will realise alot.
Thanx yeah i've ordered some books from online to start researching, and yes brother you're right i know there is no excuses for my behaviour and i guess there shouldn't be.
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 04:15 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sevgi
I want you to read every sentence I am going to write to you very very carefully.
Sister you are vey gifted in the way you write and I'm thankful that you took the time to write a reply and I'm sorry it took so long for me to reply back. I attempted to clear my thoughts before i read what you've written and as I did questions arose from it.

1) blessing of being born a Muslim - If God determines which religion i belong to then why does he not just create all humans as Muslims?

2) "He has arranged a lifelong set of lessons for you and only you, not every human, but just you, s>choudhary, to allow you to function properly and become the best s<choudhary that you can be" I'm a bit confused with this one, so by lessons do you mean the challenges i face now and the lesson is in how i over come it or what ?

3) I think this one is just a typo mistake but "Islam is not a set of rules" but you say "an amazing set of rules and guides" forgive me im most probably wrong and just a typo but still.

Hmm there are a few more but then i asked myself What is the exact nature of Allah? Islam says that Allah is incorporeal but He is omnipotent, omniscient. A conscious supernatural being but it has no shape at all and it is interacting with mankind?
You say my creator is kind but then why must so many suffer?
What is the use of worship to him since He is omnipotent?
If God is benevolent so what is the use of evil here on the world?

I don't want to come off sounding like I'm questioning your faith but these are some of the question that arose from reading your reply. Sorry if it does offend or upset you though its not really what i intended.
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Hamza Asadullah
01-16-2010, 04:44 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
I guess I should start from the beginning but hopefully I can find away back to Islam at the end of it... Both my parents are traditional Muslims with traditional conservative values. So obv i was brought up in the traditional way learning Arabic, reading the Koran etc. I never questioned Islam as a child and I did what was expected of me. But living in a western society peer pressure and being a teenager social life caught up with me and i choose a bad path which my parents followed me down, at the age of 15/16 my parents came down on me hard, truthfully there was a lot of argument, fights and tears... but i found the right path again.

Now Im 18 and well though i found the right path in terms of morals and education, spirtually Im more confused than ever. Since the age of 15 I've never prayed for the right reasons, either my mother nagged me till i did or just for the sake of my mum not nagging me. And at the peak of my teen craziness i didn't touch the prayer mat let alone the mosque, rather more interested in what the devil had to offer me from parties to well I'm gonna be truthful sex before marriage.

Now that I've 'calmed down' and taking the path to adulthood the spiritual aspects begin to dawn on me. For sometime I've been lying to my parents my again doing what suppose to be expected of me, Salah, Friday Prayers at the mosque and saying all the right things at the right times. Privately i have my reservations about Islam, currently again I'm living in sin I have a GF and she's atheist, the reason I'm here is because of her she made me realises i need to be honest about how i feel instead of keeping everything behind close doors because its a bigger sin to know your sinning but do nothing to stop it or something like that I'm not sure really?

My values have changed since as well, hence the reason I have a gf and we are sexually active. Moreover i guess good things have come out of this as well personally im more tolerant of all other religions and politically well I'm a liberal i guess. But this doesn't make what I'm doing right i suppose, don't get me wrong i believe there is a God but is Islam what i truly believe in, ? on that question for now. The few Muslim friends I have apart from family, i confided in them and they said i need to talk to my Imam, unfortunately i haven't spoken to my Imam since i was 9 and i don't even have his number.

Truthfully I'm scared of whats happened, i have forgotten how to read the Koran, i haven't touched it in how many years God knows, im forgetting the surah's i've learned. And now i barely even roll out my prayer rug, I'm in soo deep that it feels like there is no going back i guess this is my wake up call....... What do I do imsad

Thanx 2 every1 who replies :statisfie
Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, My Brother Almighty Allah the most merciful the most compassionate is wanting to guide you that is why your heart is feeling inclined to coming into Islam and wanting to be closer to Allah. But as with anything in life we have to work towards it and put our FULL effort into whatever we want in life.

Just like we have to study so hard to achieve what we want in this world in the same way we have to struggle hard to achieve what we want in the life hereafter. We have all got the ability to achieve great things in this world and the next but it is ourselves that are stopping us from achieving these great things.

Please rest assured that you are not the only person that sins and has sinned for most of their lives for we are all so sinful and weak. The Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, said, "Every son of Adam is a sinner, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

Allah Most High created us and He knows our natures. He knows that we are weak and prone to error and sin. He knows that we are faced with temptations everyday of our lives.

Yet, He is the Most Merciful and the Most Clement. In the words of Allah the Most High, "Say: 'O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah for Allah forgives all sins: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped." (Az-Zumar, 39:53-54)

Allah's mercy, compassion and forgiveness are all encompassing and his mercy is one of his most important and significant qualities of the almighty in the Qur’an, as well as in the saying and teachings of Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh).



In a Hadith Qudsi Allah states: "My mercy prevails over My wrath."


The Prophet also once said:



Allah, the Almighty, says: Whosoever does a good deed, will have (reward) ten times like it and I add more; and whosoever does an evil, will have the punishment like it or I will forgive (him); and whosoever approaches Me by one span, I will approach him by one cubit; and whosoever approaches Me by one cubit, I approach him by one fathom, and whosoever comes to Me walking, I go to him running; and whosoever meets Me with an earth-load of sins without associating anything with Me, I meet him with forgiveness like that. (Sahih Muslim)



Approximately 113 chapters of the Holy Qur’an begin with: "In the name of Allah the Most-Compassionate; the Most-Merciful".



This is a constant reminder to all who read the Qur’an of the great mercy, compassion and forgiveness of almighty Allah. So do not despair my Brother for whatever wrongs we have done if we repent sincerely with the intention to NEVER commit it again then Allah will forgive us.



Allah Most High gives us countless opportunities to repent. We must avail ourselves before it is too late. Alhamdulillah, you're fully aware of this fact. So why not do something good for your heart and your soul and turn to Allah in true repentance? None of us knows when we will be called back to our Creator. So don't let another minute pass.

Alhamdulillah, you still have the gift of youth. So take advantage of it. According to a saying of the Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him peace, "Take advantage of five things before five others occur. Your youth before you grow old; your health before you become sick, your wealth before you become poor, your leisure before you become busy, and your life before you die."

A lot of people put off repentance until they are very old or very sick. But no time is better than the present. Every second of your youth is going by and being wasted, will you ever get this precious time back?

We should be truly repentant for our sins. True repentance is repentance that brings you closer to your Lord and further from the sin. True repentance means that you sincerely and diligently take the means to move away from this sin. You get to the point where even the idea of committing this sin is loathsome. That's what you should strive for. So we should constantly ask for forgiveness every single day.


My Brother if we don’t keep consistent with our deen then our imaan (faith) will decrease and we will be far from Allah and our deen and when we are far from our deen and lack knowledge that is when confusion and doubts can permeate and creep in.

My Brother I'm sure you have achieved something in your life like a degree or education or something etc When you were revising for your degree or an exam you must have worked SO hard and you revised for hours on end, that truly showed that you have got a lot of determination inside of you because not many people can work that hard and with that much consistency like you did, so why not transfer that determination and motivation and come FULLY into Islam and go FULLY towards Allah?



Why did you work so hard for your degree or exam? Because you wanted the end result to be good, right? Same way if you work hard to do as much good as possible and abide by Allah's commands then the end result in this world AND the hereafter will be good inshallah! So you have to change your mindset and the way you think and not let shaythan make you lazy or put off making crucial changes any longer!



If we don’t let go of our love for this world and worldly things then how can our imaan (faith) remain high? So we have to forsake the love for this world and realise that this world is just temporary and our life in this world can end at ANY second!



My Brother we should thank Allah so much everyday because firstly out of BILLIONS of people that he's created he chose US and gave US imaan (faith)!



He didn’t have to, he could of created us non believers and he could have created us in ANY time period in history like in the dark ages or in the medieval times or some other terrible time uncivilised time period but he created us in a relatively safe environment in one of the richest countries in the world with luxury, food on a plate everyday, anything we want and all we have to do is look at the unfortunate people who have NOTHING and we will truly realise how lucky we really are and that Allah has given us EVERYTHING!



Many times I have been to Pakistan and seen the poor there and they're terrible condition and I just feel SO lucky of what Allah has given me compared to these people.

I saw a paralysed guy ROLLING around on the streets because he couldn’t walk or afford a wheel chair that really got to me. When one sees things like this then that is when reality really hits us in how lucky we really are because living in the developed world we always seem to forget what it is really like for those in the developing world.



My Brother the amount of poverty that people are experiencing in this world and the position Allah has put us in we should constantly be in prostration to him and thank him SO much! We are SO lucky my Brother and we still complain about this and that and minor things but we should be ever thankful to Allah night and day!



We take for granted what he has given us! He could have created us paralysed or with a terrible debilitating disease but no my Brother he has given us health, wealth and best of all imaan (faith) and now he is wanting to guide us that is why were want to go towards him!



The ONLY thing stopping us from going towards Allah is ourselves because know that shaythan can just whisper but it is our choice whether we listen or not. We are given free will to choose which path we want to take and we HAVE to make the effort to go towards him and get into our deen.



Every single day we should try to imagine and ponder over the favours of Allah and everything that he has done for us and the everything he has given us and only then we will ALWAYS remain so thankful and appreciative of Allah because my Brother SO many people are suffering in this world and all around us but were not always aware. We may look at some people around us and think to ourselves they look happy and content but only Allah knows the most terrible hardships that they are going through.



We should ALWAYS look at people who have less than us and NEVER those who have more than us! We may look at a person who we think has more than us and is happier than us, but how do we know what they are going through in life? We don't because it is not always advertised what people are going through.



Look at our poor brother’s and Sister’s in war torn countries and those who are being oppressed by their governments who don’t even allow them to practise their deen, yet where we are our governments do allow us to practise our deen properly without any problems.



Even though we sin day in and day out our almighty creator still provides for us, nourishes us, sustains us and gives us EVERYTHING we need EVERYDAY OF OUR LIVES! He remains patient waiting for us to go towards him everyday but our luck can run out ANY second!

My Brother we are so lucky if ONLY we knew and realised how much so. Even after our imaan (faith) goes down, Allah is still trying to guide us and that is why we feel inclined in our hearts to go towards him and be the closest to him!



All we have to Brother is to make the little effort in comparison with EVERYTHING Allah has given us! But yet we still fail to do the little required of us to change and go towards Allah!

He gave us life, health and working limbs when there are people out there who have limbs missing or are deformed and retarded and look at us! He has given us EVERY SINGLE THING and yet we still struggle to give even a little back and thank him by praying to him for just a few minutes a day.



Even if we were to spend eternity trying to imagine what Allah has given us and the amount of favours he has done for us, we would NEVER be able to even begin to imagine!

My Brother happiness and contentment of the heart ONLY lies with Allah! Whether we gain this happiness and true contentment really depends on how obedient we are to Allah's commandments and how much we really strive to do what he asks of us!



Remember everything that is good comes from Allah and everything bad that happens comes from us and our own wrong doings! Also Allah tests his creations in MANY different ways!



He may test us in any aspect of our lives! Almighty Allah says in the Qur'an as well that do you think that you will not be tested? What is the point and purpose of life if we are not to be tried and tested by Allah?



Allah just wants to see how we will react when we are tested! Will we go closer to shaythan? Or closer to Almighty Allah the most kind the most compassionate?



Why should we let shaythan win? For Allah tests a person so that he may see if the person will go closer to him or further away!



Who were the people who were tested the most? They were the Ambiya (prophets)! Do you know why? Because they were the best of all creation! So the more Allah tests us the more he wants us to be closer to him and if we bare the tests with patience then know that Allah is with those who are patient and the reward for patience can only be Jannah (Paradise)! Subhanallah



It is shaythan who wants us to become closer to him and will we let him? He ONLY wants our destruction! It is shaythan who is putting doubts in your mind and has tried to confuse you from the very beginning. As ive already mentioned if your knowledge in islam is lackiong then boviously you will have doubts. Without seeking knowledge how will you find clarification in order to eradicate your doubts?


Shaythan tries EVERYTHING in his power to try and keep us away from our deen by trying by distracting us with the deceptions of this world but will we let him?

He constantly tries to make us forget our purpose for it is shaythan who wants to make us lose faith in Allah and trying to make us give up hope and get depressed and confused!

He tries to mess with our minds and make us lose hope and self esteem and then tells us that our lives are pointless and worthless so why not give up?

It is shaythan who wants to see our destruction in this world and the next! Will we let him do this to us and let him win? Will we let him jeopardise our imaan (faith) and bring us to total destruction in this world and the next?

All shaythan can do is whisper in our ears and tell us to do something but it is up to us whether we will listen or not! We are beings with free will and free choice to do what we want. So will we follow our desires and the whispers of shaythan and be in loss forever? Or will we ONLY strive to listen to Allah and gain eternal success in this world and the next? It’s logical who we should listen to but why don't we?

For us it is easier to sin that to do good deeds, but that is because were in the habit of sinning so much that were used to it. Were in the habit of missing Salah day in day out so it is a normal thing for us. We hardly think about Allah and what is to come in the afterlife but continue to think about our life in this world and our future.

How do we know we have a future? How do we know whether our time will come now or later? If it does come now what have we got to show for what we have done in our life to try and please Allah?

We need to get into the habit of doing good deeds and praying ALL of our salat and then it will be easier for us to do good deeds and when we get so used to doing good deeds and sinning less then when we do happened to do a sin we would be much more guilty about it and strive not to do it again.

We should NEVER give up hope and give in to shaythan! This is exactly what shaythan wants! He can only whisper but WE HAVE THE POWER OVER OURSELVES! We have FULL control over our mind and body so let us take back control and use our mind and body and focus it towards bettering ourselves as Muslims and going towards our deen and Allah! Let us NEVER give up hope in Allah and NEVER give into shaythan because you are STRONGER than him and you can overcome him it is in you!

This life is a test and what kind of test would it be if there wasn’t evil and temptation around us? Life is full of hurdles for the path to Jannah is not an easy one and why should it be? We have to earn our place in Jannah just like we earnt our degrees or driving licenses or anything else we have achieved in our life.

If we get closer to Allah then our journey to Jannah will be a very easy one because we would have Allah by our side and when we get tested we would bare it with patience and have full hope, reliance and trust in Allah! But if were far away from our deen and Allah then we will be on a very rocky road to nowhere and eventually destruction!

The problem is because were far away from our deen and Allah it is MUCH harder for us to do good deeds and pray to Allah with full commitment. That is why it is crucial that we get closer to our deen and Allah so that we find it easier to do good and feel more guilt when we do bad.

My parents were'nt very religion but when i started to get into Islam my mother also followed and started reading her namaz and then my sister’s followed but when I started getting into Islam NO ONE at all was practicing!

My father isn’t religious at all and never has been so you should know that i came into Islam from Allah's guidance and I made full effort because I really wanted to get closer to Allah and I really wanted to get into Islam because I know it is the ONLY truth and the ONLY way to eternal success!

It is never easy because we always have shaythan and our desires trying to get in our way but if we keep consistent in our deen and ALWAYS turn towards Allah then NOTHING can stop us! If Allah guides someone then NO ONE can misguide them but if Allah misguides someone then NO ONE can guide them.

Once you start praying properly and coming towards Islam then one will bring Noor(light) and blessings into the household and other members of the household will also benefit from it, so will you not pray and read Qur'an so that your house gets full with this Noor and blessings?

My Brother Allah ONLY created us for one purpose and that is to worship him! He created us to provide for ourselves in this world but it is him who has given us the ability to work! He has given us the mental ability and capacity and he has given us the health and energy in our muscles so that we may work! He is our employer and he is our wage giver! He sustains and he has given us the ability to earn for ourselves. This does not mean that we should let this affect our actual purpose in this life! We should always keep a balance between what we do for this world and what we do for the hereafter.

My Brother It’s just about making a routine for ourselves! If we have a daily routine of work, praying remembrance of Allah, reading the Qur'an and learning about Islam then we are more likely to stick to it and implement it throughout our daily life.

When you get into the habit of praying my Brother then everything will become easier for you. It is just right now shaythan is trying to give you doubts because of your lack of knowledge and make you think its impossible for you to come towards your deen and and he is trying to make you think that you can't do it and that it is not in your capacity to do it but he is just trying to knock your confidence in yourself! You have the ability to achieve great things!

Once you get into the habit of praying you will NEVER look back again and you will think why I didn’t start earlier! I believe in you Brother and know you can do this for you are MUCH stronger than shaythan and you can get into the habit of namaz without any problems but you have to act NOW and NEVER put this off again and say soon or tomorrow because tomorrow or soon NEVER comes but NOW is the time my Brother!

My Brother Allah has not asked much from us in this life compared to what he's got on offer for us in the hereafter! Allah has just asked us for full obedience to him for such a short amount of time- (70 years to the most) and in return for our obedience he has promised us ETERENITY of bliss!


So that's: Obedience to Allah for the duration of our short lives = Eternity of bliss in the hereafter



Is that not the most amazing offer one can EVER imagine or comprehend? On top of that Allah has given us everything we need, life, shelter, wealth, food, clothing I can go on and on the favours of Allah FOREVER!



So not only has Allah provided us with everything we can imagine but he has asked us to do a little in return for an eternity of bliss and we still can't manage it? Were pathetic it’s as simple as that!

There is 1440 minutes in a day and on average all the salah if we add it up takes around 40 minutes in total a day so that’s 40 minutes for Allah out of 1440 minutes in a day that’s just 3% of our day that we need to pray to Allah and we still can't manage that! We are truly pathetic and we will truly regret it on the day of judgement FOREVER and by then it would have been too late!

My Brother after EVERYTHING Allah has given us, we can’t even manage to spend just 40 minutes out of 1440 minutes for him? Almighty Allah does not need us at all Brother for we need him!


Allah just wants the best for us in this world and the next and he tells us in the Qur'an that righteousness and piety is the path to success in this world and the next!

Simply following Allah's commands wholeheartedly will lead to success in this world and the next!

This life for us can end at ANY second Brother as we have seen for ourselves and still see on the news and all around us people dying and those people are not old at all they are people of ALL ages, ethnicities, backgrounds and religions! No matter who we are and what our situation or position is in life when our time is up then death will take us for death does not wait a second more it will take us when our time is up and NO ONE knows when that will be but Allah!



We know too well how temporary our life is and we should realise that if we waste our lives away more than we have already done then surely we will surely regret all the time we wasted on the day of judgement because ONLY then will we realise the true value of the time we had and the amount of GREAT opportunities we missed out on to do good and go towards Allah!



There will be MANY on the day of Qiyamat that will ask Allah for just one more chance and opportunity to have another shot at life and another chance to do things right this time but NO ONE will be given another chance for THIS is our ONLY chance! If we waste this opportunity then we WILL regret it FOREVER! That's a guarantee!



Allah will say have I not given you enough chances in this world to change and be obedient to me?



We wouldn't want to die at this point in our lives right now because we know that we have prepared NOTHING! What have we prepared to show Allah when he asks us what we did with our lives? We have NOTHING to show! We should be VERY worried indeed!



One time the Prophet (Pbuh) saw some people laughing out aloud and they were laughing a lot and the Prophet (Pbuh) said that if these people knew what was to come then they would NOT laugh at all! This proves that the Prophet (Pbuh) knew what was to come and he knew that if we had the knowledge he did then we would be VERY worried indeed but we don't realise because were asleep and we by the time we wake up it will be too late!



So we HAVE to wake up now! Otherwise if we die and have nothing to show Allah of our lives then we are doomed and we would not be able to handle a second of punishment.

My Brother my dear friend died this past Ramadan and he was only 28 years of age and just a few weeks ago my first cousin sister died and she was only 26.


My Brother life is just so uncertain. How do we know when our time is up? The thing is we don't know that is why we HAVE to prepare now! Otherwise there may not be a tomorrow!

If we CONSTANTLY remind ourselves of death then we will NEVER slack in our deen because we would know that the angel of death may take us ANY second! Just as I was writing this to you my friend text me and told me that his father has just died! What can I say my Brother? How much more do we need until we change ourselves? How many more warnings do we need until all our warnings are up?


We get SOO many chances from Allah everyday but yet again and again we don't take those opportunities for we keep letting them pass but what if at ANY second our last chance is up? Then we will not get anymore!



So it’s best for us to try and change ourselves now! Let us do our best to abide by the commandments of Allah and go closer to him because he is our beloved creator and he knows what’s best for us we don't! Allah says in the Qur'an that we humans know not what is best for us but Allah does. We think we do but we clearly don't.



Surely our creator knows because he has created everything we see and imagine! So let us put our FULL trust in him and strive to get the closest to our beloved creator who gave us life!



We should NOT keep dwelling on our past now or the bad experiences we went through because our past has made us who we are today! Let us take good things from the past and take lessons from it and learn from it and do things better now and the future!

Most of us have had a bad past or have had bad past experiences and had to make changes to ourselves. Allah has given us a chance my brother so let us grab it.


It will do us absolutely no good by being down about what has happened in the past! Being depressed or down about the past and life in general and losing hope and faith will NEVER benefit us but cause our doom and destruction because that is what shaythan wants! He wants to mess our heads up and distract us ANYWAY he can!



If we think to ourselves that life is too short to be down or lose hope and faith and that I should spend most of my time working for the next life then this is the best way to live our lives because what is the point of investing time and efforts in this world when those efforts are for something that is temporary and could end at ANYTIME!



Why not spend most of our time and efforts on the hereafter which is for ETERNITY? Any investment we put into the hereafter will benefit us forever and we will wreak the rewards for eternity! But if we put all of our efforts just into this world then how much will we really gain from it? Very little or nothing at all!



The person who chases this world will only get what is destined for him but the person who chases the hereafter will get more from this world and from the hereafter! So who is the winner?



We have all done mistakes in our lifetime and sometimes we wish that we can get hold of a time machine and do things differently! We wish we could go back into the past and change things so that things could have been different now but what is the point of thinking this way? Whatever has happened has happened and will NEVER change! Even if the world was to be created again then whatever will happen will keep happening over and over again because that is the decree of Allah so there is no use in us constantly thinking that if only this had happened or if only I had done this or done that….



We are wasting even more time thinking this way when we could be using this precious time in doing things better now and the future because that’s what really counts not what has already happened!



Let us move on and NOT think and dwell about the past because our life experiences make us who we are and have made us wiser people when in the past we were inexperienced in life and naive!



Sometimes in life we have to learn the hard way because the hard way is the best way to learn at times and we have to just accept what’s happened and move on because life goes on but we don't know for how long! We have to realise how precious time is!



So lets forget the past now and move on and do the BEST we can now and the future in pleasing Allah and trying to be the closest to him and repenting our past sins because if we repent with full sincerity with the intention of NEVER doing it again then Allah almighty will forgive us inshallah that’s how merciful he is!



We can work our WHOLE lives 24/7 and build a wonderful life for ourselves here and then the next day we die before we can even enjoy the fruits of our hard labour! What was the point of all that investment just in this world when it can end at ANYTIME!



Let’s ONLY invest the very minimum into this world lets invest as much as we can to the next world which is our final and ultimate destination!



The Prophet (saw) says to that we should treat this life as if it were just on a journey! This life is not a very long stop until our final abode which is the hereafter!



When investors are looking to invest in a business venture do they look for short term gains or long term? Obviously long term my Brother and that’s what we should be looking for because the cleverest person is the one who makes arrangements for the hereafter and not only for this world!



That’s not to say that we shouldn’t have our share in this world of course we should but we should invest most of our time in the next life which is for ETERNITY!



We would NOT be able to handle a single second in the hell fire my Brother, we cannot even imagine how terrifying this will be so we should do our best in this life to seek protection from it and make our good deeds balance as heavy as possible!



Sometimes I find it very hard to imagine when i think of the concept of FOREVER! It’s hard to imagine something that will last forever! That it will never cease but will go on and on! It’s not hard to think of temporary because most of the things around us goes through a cycle of life and then ceases to exist!



We see people die all around us and everything will have to come to an end, but the concept of forever is just unimaginable because it will keep going and going and NEVER end.



We cannot imagine there hereafter that is why you may find it difficult to comprehend but if we believe in the hereafter then of course we must believe in the full descriptions of heaven and hell!



The disbelievers have nothing to live for! They go through life ONLY living for this world and are confused as to why they are here and they don't have a purpose in life but we know our purpose but what are we doing to achieve it?



Allah guides who he wants and he says in the Qur'an that if he wanted to he would guide all of mankind but that would go against the whole point of this creation and testing mankind!



Allah knows best who is worthy of having faith and guidance! But it is truly a sad life for those who have no purpose in this life! They live just for this world! This is their paradise! This is their bliss! But ours is in the next world for this world is the prison for the believer!

One of the main reasons why we lack in imaan Brother is also due to a lack of knowledge of Islam!



Knowledge always makes things clearer to us! If we constantly gain knowledge of Islam and especially the akhirah and at the same time contemplate and ponder over it then my Brother our imaan will remain strong because we know what is to come.



My Brother our enemy shaythan wants our destruction and he will stop at NOTHING until we desire this world and live for this life but my Brother this life is SO SO short that we cannot imagine.



A hadith to the nearest meaning says that when we will be in the akhirah we will be asked "How long were you on the earth for?" We will say " Only for a few hours" because the comparison of this world to the akhirah is NOTHING! So when we are in this next world this world will seem like a few hours!



My Brother we will regret every second we wasted! In the akhirah we will wish that we went back to the earth and done things better but this is our ONLY chance! My Brother we can't waste our one chance that we have in this world!



What is this world but an illusion and a deception? Allah says this in the Qur'an that this life is like a veil over your eyes its a deception! We have to wake up Brother and keep reminding ourselves EVERY day of our purpose!



My Brother Allah loves us 70 times more than a mother loves its baby! Look at how much love our almighty has for us! He looks after us, sustains us and cherishes us but what do we do? We run after this world! We are truly sad and we will be the losers on Qiyamat (Day of judgement) unless we change NOW!



My Brother Ramadan left us a few months back and it was the month of mercy where praying became so much easier and the doors of forgiveness open but my Brother as long as we have life and our soul is in us then the doors of mercy and forgiveness are open for us and Allah can forgive us for EVERY sin but we need to make the changes in our own heads first and change our mind set!



We need to make sincere vows to Allah that we will ONLY go towards him and we will ONLY put everything into the hereafter so that we can please him! If he created us then do you think he does not want the best for us? If he knows what is best for us then let us follow his commands wholeheartedly and we will go towards success in this life and the next. But if we continue to follow our own desires then we will continue to go towards destruction.



We need to only live for this world as much as we can survive comfortably but everything we do for this world we should also make the intention of doing it for Allah's pleasure so that we can survive in this world! The prophet (Pbuh) was given the chance to have all of the riches of this world but he rejected it all because he wanted the riches in the hereafter! Similarly we need to want the riches of the hereafter for how can one compare the riches of this world to that of the hereafter? There's NO comparison!



If we keep constantly reminding ourselves of this then we will constantly busy ourselves with Zikr (remembrance of Allah) and we will have no time for being down or depressed about our past, present or future!

This life is our ONLY chance to please Allah and gain as many good deeds as we can so that we can build our eternity in the next world. We can't build our eternity once were dead so we HAVE to do as much as we can to please Allah and increase our good deeds now that we are alive before death overtakes us and death can overtake us at ANY second!



My brother get involved with the Masjid and make a good and close connection with the house of Allah. The favourite places of Allah are Masjids and the worst places are the market places or shopping malls and high streets where there is a lot of fitnah.

When you get involved more with the Masjid you will feel such an amazing and special feeling of peace and tranquillity. You will also meet and find many good and pious local brothers many of whom have been through what you have and have changed their ways and are now working for the akhirah. You need to get a close connection with these types of people as they are true friends for true friends are those who will lead us towards Jannah and the bad friends are those who will lead us towards destruction.

You are who your friends are so if your friends are good and pious and of those who ONLY desire the hereafter then those are the right people to be with but if they are the opposite then you need to get away from them because whether we like it or not their bad influence and habits etc will rub off on us gradually.



The true friend is the one who takes us towards goodness and towards Allah and Islam and the bad friend is the one who will drag us towards hell and destruction.

One of my cousins once told me that after he gave up the bad life like going to clubs, drinking smoking etc. His phone went off less often that when he was involved in all of that evil and only a few very close friends called him and they were the friends that were never involved in any evil and used to try and encourage him to go towards the straight path. He told me that is when he knew that the friends he has before were just there with him for the ride and they were never his true and real friends.

My brother go closer to Allah and create a close and good connection with the Masjid and Allah will find you good and close friends who will lead you towards Jannah inshallah!


My Brother our aim should be to do EVERY good act especially Salah with khushu (imaging we can see Allah when praying or doing good deeds). We need to imagine him watching us no matter what we do! If we imagine him watching us then surely we would automatically want to stay away from sin and do good actions with more sincerity and focus. For this we need to try and clear our minds of all thoughts and focus SOLELY on Allah when were doing any good action like namaz for example because it is easy for our minds to wander when were praying.



We need to try and gain more sincerity in our hearts in every action we do and clean out the love of this world from our hearts and replace it with the love for the hereafter and wanting to be the closest to Allah!



All this is certainly not an over night process, but my Brother our imaan (faith) can remain strong and high if we consistently remember Allah ALL the time and keep in mind our purpose in this world that were ONLY here for such a short period and that we will have to go one day which can be ANY second. We should glorify Allah throughout the day and remember him no matter what were doing in our lives and this way our imaan (faith) will remain high all the time Inshallah!



We should imagine him watching us glorify him and think of him and we should do lots of dua’s throughout the day and gain a close relationship with Allah!



We should read much of the Qur'an and its meanings and contemplate and ponder over its meanings. We should try and spend a little time each day trying to memorise bits of the Qur'an and even make intention that we want to memorise all of it because We will get our reward depending on our intention!



We should try and learn and implement as MANY Sunnahs (Actions and sayings) of our beloved Rasulallah (Pbuh) as possible who is our role model and we should learn the masnoon dua’s and implement them EVERYDAY in our lives!



We should learn the life story of our beloved Rasul (Saw) and learn about every aspect of his most amazing life! This will surely soften our hearts!



We should learn about the stories of the pious predecessors and the heroes’s of Islam and take them as our hero's because they are the true hero's of this world like the many hero’s at the time of the Prophet (Pbuh) and the likes of Salah Udeen (RA)


We should constantly remind ourselves of death and read about it all the time my Brother and read about what will happen to us after death in the grave and in the hereafter! We should learn about our possible rewards in Jannah and our demise in Jahannam if we fail and die without imaan May Allah save us all!



We should try and gain a thirst for knowledge my Brother because it is said that the ones with knowledge and the ones without knowledge is like the distance from here to the star that you can see shining and learning knowledge of Islam will opens up our eyes wider than they currently are.



We need to acquire a taste and a desire to gain knowledge and try our best to act upon it and implement it in our daily lives and share it with others! My brother we need to try and gain the closeness to Allah by reading MANY nafil salah's.



My Brother we need to try and constantly occupy ourselves with the Zikr (Remembrance) of Allah and glorify him day and night!



Allah says in the Qur’an "Remember Allah abundantly, in order that you become successful"

Quran (Surah 8: Verse 45)

"Only in the remembrance of Allah (swt) will your heart find peace"



Quran (Surah 13: Verse 28)



"Those men and women who engage much in Allah's praise. for them Allah has prepared forgiveness and a Great Reward"

Quran (Surah 33: Verse 35)

"When any group of men remember Allah, angels surround them and mercy covers them, tranquillity descends upon them, and Allah mentions them to those who are with Him." (Muslim)



We also know that remembering Allah is of the greatest deed:



"The remembrance of Allah (swt) is the greatest (deed)" Quran (Surah 29: Verse 45)



and of the the worst things we can do is not to remember Allah:



"Satan has mastered them and caused them to forget the Remembrance of Allah. Those are Satan's party; and Satan's party shall assuredly be the losers" Quran (Surah 58: Verse 19)



"Whosoever turns away from the Remembrance of Allah, He will hurl him into a stern punishment".

Quran (Surah 72: Verse 17)

"Whosoever turns away from My remembrance, his life will be made tight and narrow on the Day of Resurrection We shall raise him blind" Quran (Surah 20: Verse 124)


Allah tells us to remember him no matter what we do whether that be lying or sitting down:



"They are the most wise who remember Allah, standing sitting and lying down"

Quran (Surah 4: Verse 190)

We should remember Allah no matter what we are doing and we should ALWAYS try to keep our tongues moist with his remembrance and glorification.


Here are some VERY quick, easy and rewarding ways of earning good deeds everyday especially easy zikr's:

http://www.islamicboard.com/advice-s...-everyday.html (VERY Rewarding Nafl Salaahs we can Pray Everyday!)

My Brother I would recommend that you start off at your own speed because if one does too much in one go then they may let go of the act quickly so I would say go at your own speed and start off praying one or two a day and progress from there making sure to note down how many salah you pray so that you can check your progress daily.

It depends what you can manage but remember my brother time is so short so we have to act now. Allah wants you to go closer to him and all this requires is your FULL determination, effort and perseverance. This is your time now to make these changes. Don’t let NOTHING stop you from going closer to Allah because if you do then you will regret this for eternity and by then it will be too late!

So don’t go too fast that you can’t handle it but don’t go to slow either. Start off praying one a day for example Isha, then the week after 2 a day and then week after that 3 a day and inshallah in no time you will be praying 5 a day! If you think one week is too little time then extend it to 2 weeks. Do what you think is best but remember don’t let shaythan slow your progress down for you have let him stop you or too long and it is time for us to know our purpose in this life and for us to make a stand!

You need to write it down so that you can keep a tab on how many salah your praying everyday.

Just concentrate on the fard salah for now and eventually my Brother you can move onto praying nafil salah which are voluntary prayers and nafil salah are one of the best ways of getting closer to Allah.

Once you have established your far prayers and want to get even closer to Allah and increase your good deed account and imaan further then your typical day would be like this:

In the morning when waking up for tahajjud even if its 20 mins before start of Fajr and then wait until Fajr and pray that and then do ibaadah (worship) until ishraaq(Sunrise) and then pray that Salah and then the breakfast salah(Salaatul Duhaa) and then pray Zuhr with all the sunnah and Nafil and same with Asr and make some time to do ibaadah until Maghrib and read the nafils after that (Salaatul Awabeen) and read isha and all the sunnah and nafil and do zikr (remembrance of Allah) throughout the day aswell as at least 1 juz(chapter) of Qur’an a day making sure to do as many Sunnah’s of our prophet(Pbuh) as possible.

VERY Rewarding Nafl Salaahs we can Pray Everyday


http://www.islamicboard.com/advice-s...-everyday.html (VERY Rewarding Nafl Salaahs we can Pray Everyday!)


So my Brother if we do all of these things then were are implementing Islam FULLY in our lives and we will be SO close to Allah and feel the best feeling in our hearts that we can EVER imagine! We will feel the sweetness of imaan and peace and tranquillity in our hearts! Oh what a beautiful feeling it is and you would feel more amazing than you ever imagined and inshallah you will get this feeling which is better than any artificial buzz that you have ever taken and this buzz will always be felt as long as your doing as many good deeds as possible throughout the day and getting closer to Allah!



My Brother we should try and cry to Allah everyday on our dua’s and feel him close to us in our hearts for he listens to every prayer of ours and he knows our pain and wants to help us but we have to help ourselves first! Allah the most compassionate has already given us EVERYTHING we can see, hear, feel and touch and all we have to do is put the effort in but why do we still not make the effort? How unappreciative are we to the favours of Allah and everything Allah has given us? He has given us so much yet we cannot even do a little in return? If we don’t change then the only ones in loss will be ourselves!



Please click on the link for a more detailed explanation of the many Nafil Salah which we can pray everyday so we can be the closest to Allah!


We should cry over our sins and ask of Allah for guidance and help in our lives. We should ALWAYS be in the habit of asking of Allah for EVERYTHING we want in life and the hereafter and always remember others especially our family and parents in our dua's!



We should try to make dua especially in this last portion of the night where duas are more readily accepted. Just like how a mother runs to its baby when its crying then will Allah not swiftly attend to us when we cry to him in dua?



We should have hope of his mercy after sincere repentance and make intention not to repeat the sin again but if we do then we should continue to ask for repentance my Brother because Allah is most merciful and his mercy overcomes his wrath! Allah gets angry at those who do not ask of him and hardly make dua to him!



We should ALWAYS make dua for our parents and all of the Muslims. If we make dua for EVERY Muslim person who’s ever lived and every Muslim from now until the last Muslim then we will get the reward for EVERY Muslim we pray for. So that's BILLIONS of good deeds every time we do dua for every Muslim that's ever lived! We need to make a habit of doing this!



Dua is the BEST weapon for a believer but shaythan always tries to make us forget to do dua and makes us lazy in dua. Imagine if we prayed to Allah all the time how much better off we would be in our lives? Dua is a VERY powerful tool if only we knew the value of it!



There are SO many good deeds that we don’t realise the extent of the rewards were missing out on and if we knew the true value of them, then we would literally crawl towards them meaning we would be so desperate to do them! But we are complacent because we don’t know the true value of these good deeds and by the time we will find out the true value of these good deeds on the day of judgement, then it will be way too late by then and we will regret it forever and ask of Allah to give us another chance in this world but Allah will refuse saying he gave us countless chances but it is us who never were heedless of the signs.



We should from now on have FULL hope in him and him ONLY! We should have FULL reliance in him and accept the fact that if he tests us then he wants us to be the closest to him and we should bare the test with patience! He ONLY tests those he wants closest to him!



My Brother can you feel in your heart how much you desire to be the closest to Allah? It is because Almighty Allah wants you to be the closest to him and he wants you to desire meeting with him in the next world and he does not want you to waste your life and energies in this world because this world is NOTHING but a deception! This life is a proto-type of the akhirah.



My Brother lets get the hunger for good deeds and making Allah the happiest.



My Brother people spend their whole lives looking for peace and contentment in their hearts and ALL the worldly goods and money have NEVER given them that! Allah says that ONLY with my remembrance will hearts find contentment! So my Brother we have to CONSTANTLY remember him and glorify him!



We need to constantly keep our lips moist from his glorification. Keep a tasbih (rosary) near to you in your hands ALWAYS because a tasbih is the best reminder for one to do Zikr. Otherwise during the day we forget to glorify Allah.

I find that a metal clicking tasbih is really good and practical to carry ANYWHERE.



My Brother Allah is watching us in our prayers and EVERYTHING that we do so we need to imagine he is watching us because he ACTUALLY is! What an amazing feel that he is watching us pray and glorifying him!

So will you not desire to meet with him every time you pray namaz? That is so sacred and the most amazing feeling to meet with ones lord EVERYTIME one prays! Subhanallah!



Let’s make the best use of every second that we have NOW and NOT waste it anymore because we truly cannot afford to! Let us learn as much as we can about our beautiful way of life because it is truly amazing and has perfect wisdom in it!



Once we become closest to Allah we will feel more amazing than we have EVER imagined because Allah says that you will NOT find contentment and true happiness in money or anything else but you will ONLY find true contentment and happiness in me and NOTHING else!



So my Brother this is our chance to aim HIGH and gain the HIGHEST positions in paradise! Why settle for the lowest positions? Would you have been satisfied with a third class degree? Same way why should we settle for the low positions of Jannah? Why not try to gain the high positions? It is possible my Brother but we have to put in the effort and when we do I promise you, you will feel more amazing than you have EVER imagined and you will feel true peace and contentment in your heart!



Allah wants you to come closer to him so grab this opportunity and lets keep ourselves strong against the whispers from shaythan who wants our destruction by distracting us with worthless time wasting that will NEVER benefit us but cause our doom!



Allah is beauty itself for he is perfection and the almighty master of the universe and we are is lowly slaves who are insignificant like a speck of dust!



We should make the intention NOW that we will change our lives FOREVER and we go FULLY towards Allah and make our sole purpose and aim in this life to make him the happiest and shun this world which is deception and a Jannah for the non believers for this is their temporary bliss and our bliss will be FOREVER in Jannah Inshallah.



Life is so uncertain and we can be taken ANY second my dear Brother and when it is gone then we can't do anything more to please Allah and add to our good deed accounts. We need Allah; he doesn’t need us so let us strive to go towards him FULLY!



We should desire to be the closest to Allah and Allah wants us to be the closest to him because he loves us MUCH MORE THAN WE CAN EVER IMAGINE!



So let us show him how much we love him with action and lets glorify him and thank him day and night because he loves those who thank him constantly and are appreciative of him SO much!



Let us make changes to ourselves NOW because we may not live tomorrow! Let's re-evaluate ourselves and realise that we only have ONE purpose and our destination is in the hereafter for our stay in this world is so short.



Let us spend each day FULL of worship and obedience to him and a life where we will spend it making him the happiest and he will fulfil our needs and give us peace and contentment in our hearts which is the best feeling anyone can EVER imagine!



You have got it in you, just release the determination inside of you and give it your all! Don't waste a second more because you have to think to yourself “What am I waiting for? Am waiting for death to come before I make any changes in my life? Surely by then it would be too late, so I HAVE to change NOW!”

We need to make preparations for our own death before it arrives and it can arrive at our doorstep ANY second so let us start to make preparations NOW because there may NOT be a tomorrow!



Don't delay it any more Brother because NOTHING should stop you now! There is NO time like the present to start! There is NO excuse for delaying it a second more!



The first thing you should do my Brother without hesitation is to start praying namaz and focus totally on Allah whilst you are praying as he is in front of you because praying Salah is a meeting with Allah and is the biggest obligation for us after imaan..



Picture him in front of you ALL the time then your mind won't wonder! You will now start to feel more amazing than you have EVER imagined the closer you get towards Allah!

You will feel tranquillity and peace in your heart that you have NEVER felt before and inshallah you will feel contentment which leads to true happiness!

I have taken the liberty in providing you with links to many very beneficial talks and also articles which will be very useful and beneficial to you.

The talks are first and they include the importance of Salah and the reality of death and the hereafter by some brilliant speakers.

Then at the bottom after the talks I have include some very useful and beneficial articles in which I have included an E book in PDF called: Islam: Beliefs and teachings which include all the basics of Islam and more and is the best place to start learning knowledge from and building it up from there. The book also includes how to pray Salah properly as well as how to do Wudu, Ghusl properly in accordance with the Sunnah.

I have also included articles on how to increase imaan and good deeds we can do to please Allah as well as other very useful articles.

It is essential that you try to learn as much as possible as knowledge is crucial and will open your eyes to reality!

Also learning about deen is brilliant because it all makes complete sense and it broadens ones horizons. We should be students of knowledge till our last breaths! Learn as much as you can so that your doubts disapear and without knowledge how will misconceptions be eradicated?

Please feel free to ask me anything you want as I am here for you as your brother in Islam and we as Muslims are all one body!


Here are some very beneficial talks you should really listen to in order to make you realise the purpose of this life:

Imam Anwar al-Awlaki - The Importance of Prayer (Salat)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNDb41OH46A

Imam Anwar al-Awlaki - Death (The Destroyer of Pleasures) [part 1/4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieX7ZQtHl0s

Imam Anwar al-Awlaki - Death (The Destroyer of Pleasures) [part 2/4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK_2sVGMW08

Imam Anwar al-Awlaki - Death (The Destroyer of Pleasures) [part 3/4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpmzA2hk1Bo

Imam Anwar al-Awlaki - Death (The Destroyer of Pleasures) [part 4/4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km39GfL62TQ

Sheikh Ahmad Ali - Hellfire Talk Part 1/3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWTehIeCOUU

Sheikh Ahmad Ali - Hellfire Talk Part 2/3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXTtk7rWx_U

Sheikh Ahmad Ali - Hellfire Talk Part 3/3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmiD86w9fBc

Angel of Death!!! - Sheikh Ahmed Ali

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUzRJXlB2uA

Islam - Punishment of the Grave by Shaykh Riyadh ul Haq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWb-hYIm2WE

Death and the Grave by Murtaza Khan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r2nzJVecqo



I have pasted some beneficial links for you on various aspects of Islam which i hope you will find VERY useful and beneficial:

DOWNLOAD THE FREE E BOOK- Islam Beliefs and Teachings


http://www.islamicbulletin.com/servi...ls.aspx?id=268


The translation of salat (namaz) - learn what you’re reading in namaz



http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38303



Overcoming laziness and Procrastination


http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52097



10 Steps to Increasing our Iman(Faith)



http://www.islamicboard.com/manners-...man-faith.html



Signs of Weak Iman and How to Increase It



http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/weakimanfix.htm



Overcoming tests from Allah



http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61961



25 Ways to Deal with Stress and Anxiety VERY GOOD THREAD



http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43179


10 steps to getting closer to Allah


http://www.islamicboard.com/manners-...ser-allah.html

Forty Very Easy, Quick & Rewarding Good Deeds for all of us to do Everyday!

http://www.islamicboard.com/worship-...-everyday.html


VERY Rewarding Nafl Salaahs we can Pray Everyday!


http://www.islamicboard.com/advice-s...-everyday.html (VERY Rewarding Nafl Salaahs we can Pray Everyday!)


My Daily Ibadah(worship) check


http://www.islamicboard.com/manners-...hip-check.html

A party in Paradise, A party in Hellfire



http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39698



The Ultimate Motivation for Muslims



http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49243



The State of the People of Paradise in this World



http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49125


Major Signs before the Day of Judgement


http://www.inter-islam.org/faith/Majorsigns.html


Signs before the Day of Judgement


http://etori.tripod.com/dajjalsystem/judgement.html



The Life of this World and the Hereafter


http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51739


Beautiful Description of Paradise in Islam


http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51707


Practising az-Zuhd in the Dunya


http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51738



Everything about Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh)



http://www.mohammad-pbuh.com/

(THE SEALED NECTAR)Memoirs of the Noble Prophet [pbuh]
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/B..._tsn/index.htm


For those wanting to look more into Islam



http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?t=44392



Please remember me in your dua's and please feel free to ask me ANYTHING you want and I will try my best to always help you as your brother in Islam. Allah Hafiz
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M..x
01-16-2010, 05:55 PM
Salaam Bro... Speaking in your defence, I wana say that I feel sorry fo you in tha sense that you were told just to du certain things e.g. praying without maybe learning tha rewards of it.. Being bought up in such a way, without proper education about tha deen is prolly majorly tha reason why youths nowdays stray from tha deen and are left chasing after dunya... Like I'm from a Paki background, and ano how some Paki mentalities are, tha parents think that they can gaurd you against ery evil in tha wulrd by forcing you to go jummah or sending you to a Molvi or sumet, it hardly wurks like that...
I think you need to be honest to yourself, and ask what you really want. Embracing Islam is not difficult, buh you need to fight your nafs and all tha wurdly temptations to get to tha answers you need. So fix up your priorities I guess... I mean in reality, think after this life ends... is that it? So all of us are guna RIP? Musik.. Wha if I DONT listen to it? Whats tha alternatives?... GF... W/o her am I guna pyshically detiorate? Most of these peoples say they cant live their lifes without these HARAM partners? Buh like are you really guna stop eating and drinking if your not together...? And is she what you want as a WIFE? or isit timepass thing... I put my life on it and say you'll find these answers in Islam. Ain' no other religion better than that.. I think before you start going into comparative relgion (Islam v Chirsitianity) Learn abouh your own religion first.. If you got got any questions, post them up, and I'm sure theyll get refuted... Buh yeah and also check out this website, its got bare info on every aspekt and stuff...
Everyone goes fru ups and downs, you just gotta find a way of crawling out of it. There was a reason you reverted to tha right path before, find tha reason why you did and try to attain it once more. Also i think knowledge is power, so strive for it and implement it. Good Luck
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cat eyes
01-16-2010, 06:54 PM
:sl: i think your problem is that your young brother and most of the young muslims that come to my mosque they don't even know how to pray and they are born muslim only about 14 and 15 and even older and they are very open about there problems and we try to help them as much as we can and maybe you could also benefit from going to your local mosque and start from scratch like learning the basics of islam:)
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Uthman
01-16-2010, 07:33 PM
If you have doubts that Muhammad (:saws:) was a prophet of Allah, could I possibly direct you to this thread? :)
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 07:50 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by cat eyes
:sl: i think your problem is that your young brother and most of the young muslims that come to my mosque they don't even know how to pray and they are born muslim only about 14 and 15 and even older and they are very open about there problems and we try to help them as much as we can and maybe you could also benefit from going to your local mosque and start from scratch like learning the basics of islam:)

True that many younger brothers are born a muslim only, nothing else its sort of sad in a way but its the facts. but thanx 4 yur reply sis
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★мαячαн★
01-16-2010, 08:00 PM
these points mentioned so far seem to be veryy good i must say.

But i'll add my own lil input :)

Right firstly i must tell uu that i agree being a teenager is alot harder thaan most people understand in the west unless they've been through it. The social pressures, culture, tradition cann all be combined with relgion and confuse you. But look at it this wayyy.. you have taken that first step towards Islam again, you have realised you have done wrong and you obviously have some sort of guilt in you and you understand that .. alhumdulilah and may allah allow you to continuing taking these steps back to him :)

Never ever feel that you have sinned so much that your lord can't forgive you.. because bro that is a trick of the satan and he will toll with your emotions in this manner and make you feel bad, and prevent you from ever coming bac to the correc thinge ever again. I no this sounds easy enough to understand but it is very hard for all of us to think that after all the sins we commit to keep trying to come bac too our lord everytime; but to put it into perspective " we only have one life, so use it well and live in happiness (with your married gf, if she coneverts Inshallah) in Paradise; or stray away from the path and enter the hell fire.
Lifes too short, we dunno if we're gonna be here tmrw, so start today IA

alwayss praying for you IA :)
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 08:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
Salaam Bro... Speaking in your defence, I wana say that I feel sorry fo you in tha sense that you were told just to du certain things e.g. praying without maybe learning tha rewards of it.. Being bought up in such a way, without proper education about tha deen is prolly majorly tha reason why youths nowdays stray from tha deen and are left chasing after dunya... Like I'm from a Paki background, and ano how some Paki mentalities are, tha parents think that they can gaurd you against ery evil in tha wulrd by forcing you to go jummah or sending you to a Molvi or sumet, it hardly wurks like that...
I think you need to be honest to yourself, and ask what you really want. Embracing Islam is not difficult, buh you need to fight your nafs and all tha wurdly temptations to get to tha answers you need. So fix up your priorities I guess... I mean in reality, think after this life ends... is that it? So all of us are guna RIP? Musik.. Wha if I DONT listen to it? Whats tha alternatives?... GF... W/o her am I guna pyshically detiorate? Most of these peoples say they cant live their lifes without these HARAM partners? Buh like are you really guna stop eating and drinking if your not together...? And is she what you want as a WIFE? or isit timepass thing... I put my life on it and say you'll find these answers in Islam. Ain' no other religion better than that.. I think before you start going into comparative relgion (Islam v Chirsitianity) Learn abouh your own religion first.. If you got got any questions, post them up, and I'm sure theyll get refuted... Buh yeah and also check out this website, its got bare info on every aspekt and stuff...
Everyone goes fru ups and downs, you just gotta find a way of crawling out of it. There was a reason you reverted to tha right path before, find tha reason why you did and try to attain it once more. Also i think knowledge is power, so strive for it and implement it. Good Luck
Thanx 4 da reply hmm yeh i'll get it sooner or later.... hmm i doubt i'd physically deteriorate if I let her go but thats one thing i guess i'm not gonna give up on just yet, i sound really westernised n stuff i guess its infused my brain but i would want her as my wife
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cat eyes
01-16-2010, 08:13 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by AnonymousGender
Salamu Alaykum,

What you need is to visit the graveyard and look around you, ask yourself and ask Allah why he chose you to be born in a muslim family.

There are so many non-muslims who are leaving everything for Islam and your asking if Islam is the truth?

I am working with someone who probably does not have long to live and i asked her last week to forgive me if i have done any wrong whilst in my care.This is a non-muslim. Your a muslim probably hurt the family, friends, so who else is there left for you to hurt about your comments on Islam.

My family are not muslims and do you know what i worry about them what will happen to them once they leave this world behind.

You have choice choose the Dunya over Islam or choose Islam over the Dunya????

"Allah says he will take Islam away from the nation who do not follow it correctly and give it to a nation who will follow it correctly".

You need to wake up.

Forgive me for being hard but sometimes its the best policy to be tough.

Wasalam
:sl: i know from experience being tough dose not work with people who have these problems. they get scared of islam and they run a mile because they feel pressured and feel they have to take a lot on there shoulders. we have to remind them also is that Allah is most merciful and all forgiving and he has the love of as much as 70mothers for us all something that no mother can give. it gradually takes time with patience and care and help, these people can get back on the track again with a little bit of dawah.

you come by many people like this when doing jamaat(just incase you will ever do inshaAllah:))and its our duty to warn them in the most kindness and less judging way as possible and don't be tough with them sister it might be that there is 70 different reasons why they are going through these problems maybe because there parents were not practicing or might have been overly strict and abusive with them as a kid also leaves mental scars and cant be easily healed.
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 08:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza81
Please remember me in your dua's and please feel free to ask me ANYTHING you want and I will try my best to always help you as your brother in Islam. Allah Hafiz
Brother you've written soo much i've had to print it out and i guess it'll serve as a gd nite time read lol, but i'd like to thank you for not only giving me soo much informations, but you've also taken the time to reply. So thanx bro
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M..x
01-16-2010, 10:15 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
Thanx 4 da reply hmm yeh i'll get it sooner or later.... hmm i doubt i'd physically deteriorate if I let her go but thats one thing i guess i'm not gonna give up on just yet, i sound really westernised n stuff i guess its infused my brain but i would want her as my wife
I've always tried to understand people tha tthink this way.. Aside from tha fakt you 'love' her, why wouldn't you wana marry someone that lives their life for one purpose of achieving the same goal as you? Furthermore, don't you think your differences in lifestyles would affect tha upbringing of your children? If I'm not correkt, she prolly goes clubbing and tha rest? Eats what is not halal? etc so would you allow your child to du tha same? I beleive you say your not prakticing, buh du you not even beleive that aspekt of Islam either or do you condone it? & If you want to find tha truth again, wha you guna du then? End it? =S. Or ask her to convert...
Westernised.. If you wish to label yourself with that then so be it, buh you have largely been influenced by Western values it seems...
Sorry for bombarding you wit questions, I know someone whus going fru this phase also, and I jsut wanted to kinda get an insight into your thinking =) Maybe I can then kinda to some extent understand their situation instead of playing dead from them. No offence intended.
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bewildred
01-16-2010, 10:36 PM
Don't get me wrong. Very respectable people in here take of their time to try to help him. Bro Hamza gave him a very detailed post that I found myself very beneficial and I thank him a lot. But the young bewildered boy just makes little comments and I wonder if he really wants to find the straight path. I think that he needs time for a real introspection to find it in his heart to discover the true joy of being a muslim. I know I sound harsh with him. He shouldn't take a few things in a ludicrous way. Sorry for my straight-forwardness.
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Hamza Asadullah
01-16-2010, 10:42 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by bewildred
Don't get me wrong. Very respectable people in here take of their time to try to help him. Bro Hamza gave him a very detailed post that I found myself very beneficial and I thank him a lot. But the young bewildered boy just makes little comments and I wonder if he really wants to find the straight path. I think that he needs time for a real introspection to find it in his heart to discover the true joy of being a muslim. I know I sound harsh with him. He shouldn't take a few things in a ludicrous way. Sorry for my straight-forwardness.
:sl: My sister Allah looks at our intentions. If we have the right intentions then we will be rewarded accordingly.

If our intention is to try and help him and others in here then Allah will reward us accordingly and we should only be in here to gain rewards and the pleasure of Allah.

If anyone is a fake in here then may Allah expose them but we should not have suspicion until we have solid proof otherwise it may just be mere baseless suspicion.

Next time sis just give what advice you have once or twice and then leave it at that and make dua for them that is the best way.

:wa:
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M..x
01-16-2010, 10:43 PM
To be honest, I think tha thread starter should appreciate your concern and make use of all tha advice given. I mean whats tha point of posting his question otherwise?
Buh I dont think its fair to assume he isn't doing just that. I just feel, if he's saying everything he did in this thread wif honesty, and if he doesnt take heed, then he's only lying to himself. And Bro Hamza & eryone else who took their time and effort to reply are just fulfilling their duty as Muslims. At tha end of tha day, sites like this only offer advice, in reality it is left up to tha person asking tha question ro whatever to implement it or even try to understand it. And if they're not bothered, well its a loss for them to say tha least. Guess it comes down to pure ignorance. Buh I hope he's not one of these people inshAllah, there's too many that knwo right from wrong buh fail to act.
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Hamza Asadullah
01-16-2010, 10:47 PM
:sl: very well said sis and that is why we should give what advice we have to anyone who wants it once or twice then leave it at that and make dua for them.

May Allah guide us all. Ameen
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 10:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza81
:sl: very well said sis and that is why we should give what advice we have to anyone who wants it once or twice then leave it at that and make dua for them.

May Allah guide us all. Ameen
Bro Hamza81 i'd like to personally thank you for you contribution again, and rest assured it hasn't fallen under deaf ears, or i wouldn't be here otherwise and it just be a waste of time me even replying back. You've given me over 12 pages to read, and other brothers and sisters have given me advice and which books i should begin to read.
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cat eyes
01-16-2010, 11:04 PM
:sl: can i also just remind other muslims that we should be very cautious of casting doubt or suspicion amongest any muslim and accuse them of being fake because Allah might be so angered by our actions that he might cast us back to disbelief for our cruel intention.

just ask yourself that imagine if a person start judging you, how would you like it? its not to nice..for example you werent implementing the sunnah in your daily life and people started telling you that you werent a muslim.

a friend of mine who reverted once wore jeans to a mosque and some sisters just made one harsh comment about it and she never returned again now i was trying my best to persuade her to go again and meet other sisters but her hearts not in it anymore because of that one cruel comment she heard on her back and shes even in two minds now whether to put her kids in an islamic envoironment but thats another topic that i wont get into but my point is just be very cautious of how you treat others because it can and will effect that person. and Allah knows best.
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 11:04 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by bewildred
Don't get me wrong. Very respectable people in here take of their time to try to help him. Bro Hamza gave him a very detailed post that I found myself very beneficial and I thank him a lot. But the young bewildered boy just makes little comments and I wonder if he really wants to find the straight path. I think that he needs time for a real introspection to find it in his heart to discover the true joy of being a muslim. I know I sound harsh with him. He shouldn't take a few things in a ludicrous way. Sorry for my straight-forwardness.
Sorry guys for the late reply i left my computer on but i had something to sort out but Like i said before sis you got your right to post what you feel, and trust me its gonna take more than your "straight-forwardness" to push me away, if you feel like I'm a fake and I'm wasting your time let alone all these other respectable people here, I don't know how to prove i'm serious about it? But i wouldn't be sat here on a Sat night if i wasn't serious?
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Hamza Asadullah
01-16-2010, 11:07 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
Bro Hamza81 i'd like to personally thank you for you contribution again, and rest assured it hasn't fallen under deaf ears, or i wouldn't be here otherwise and it just be a waste of time me even replying back. You've given me over 12 pages to read, and other brothers and sisters have given me advice and which books i should begin to read.
:sl: I apologise for giving you so much to read i should have tried to be more concise. I hope it helps because it came from the heart. Allah has given you the ability to come here and recieve this advice for it is his doing so you should thank him.

Almighty Allah is wanting to guide you towards him brother for we only have one chance in this life which can end at any second. We can only inform you best we can and the rest is upto you but we are always here for you for Muslims are one body and if one part of the body is in pain then we should all feel the pain and try to help in whatever way we can.

I pray Allah gives you guidance to the straight path and that our advice helps you in the best ways possible. Ameen

:wa:
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S<Chowdhury
01-16-2010, 11:38 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza81
:sl: I apologise for giving you so much to read i should have tried to be more concise. I hope it helps because it came from the heart. Allah has given you the ability to come here and recieve this advice for it is his doing so you should thank him.

Almighty Allah is wanting to guide you towards him brother for we only have one chance in this life which can end at any second. We can only inform you best we can and the rest is upto you but we are always here for you for Muslims are one body and if one part of the body is in pain then we should all feel the pain and try to help in whatever way we can.

I pray Allah gives you guidance to the straight path and that our advice helps you in the best ways possible. Ameen

:wa:
plz dnt apologise, even if u gave me 50 pages i still wuld of read them because since you've spent time gathering the info and posting it.
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S<Chowdhury
01-17-2010, 12:19 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
I've always tried to understand people tha tthink this way.. Aside from tha fakt you 'love' her, why wouldn't you wana marry someone that lives their life for one purpose of achieving the same goal as you? Furthermore, don't you think your differences in lifestyles would affect tha upbringing of your children? If I'm not correkt, she prolly goes clubbing and tha rest? Eats what is not halal? etc so would you allow your child to du tha same? I beleive you say your not prakticing, buh du you not even beleive that aspekt of Islam either or do you condone it? & If you want to find tha truth again, wha you guna du then? End it? =S. Or ask her to convert...
Westernised.. If you wish to label yourself with that then so be it, buh you have largely been influenced by Western values it seems...
Sorry for bombarding you wit questions, I know someone whus going fru this phase also, and I jsut wanted to kinda get an insight into your thinking =) Maybe I can then kinda to some extent understand their situation instead of playing dead from them. No offence intended.

I'm not easily offended Sis, so none taken, and its okey i don't mind the questions....

"wouldn't i want to be with someone with the same goals in life as you? " My goal has always been to become successful, i guess i've been chasing material things but that is because its what's driven me so far in life. But referring to the question i guess we share the same goals, she wants success and other things aswell.

" Different lifestyles we lead causes confusion when bringing up children"

This is the main issue, yet I'm still young and children etc hasn't really been the major topic but from what we've discussed so far hmm i know for a fact its a sin not to raise your child as a Muslim if your a Muslim yourself.
But hypothetically if i did marry her and we had children, hmm i guess i'd teach my children Islam and let them decide when they are old enough if they wish to be fully practising. This is what I'd probably do if i was a practising muslim or not.

In terms of the alcohol, clubbing, non-halal food....etc, well it mite be different for other people, but my gf doesn't drink.
The clubbing, she's told me she's been to a few, but whilst we've been together she hasn't but house parties are more of a place she'd rather socialise but i guess its no better than clubbing. In terms of the clubbing and if i'd allow my children to do so I'm not sure i'll have to ask her about that.
Halal food at home of course its halal for me and she hasn't got a problem with it, meat is meat to her, no difference if its blessed. And well since she's been with me there's no eating of the swine.

Lastly asking her to convert, I will ask and try to make her see sense in God when I've resolved my own issues, but I've said from the beginning I'm not going to push her into a religion.

But i guess i'm more lucky than others, she's willing to compromise and give up a few things but then so am I. And well you may term it as a 'phase' but its not just because I'm not married to her legally doesn't mean its not serious nor will it just pass. But then that's my opinion.
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desert winds
01-17-2010, 12:43 AM
Asslam alaikum.
I am glad u tried to talk to allah, i want to try to get you to understand how allah felt when you did this. Now this is a hadith but dont no details. Imagine your in open land and your horse runs away. U have no other means of travel no communication. How would you feel? Devastated? Let down? Loose hope that ur horse will return. Then it does! Can u imagine the happiness? Unexplainable.
Thats how allah feels when we turn to him.
Heres a simple sentence: ya rabbi ighfirli. My god, forgive me.
Talk to allah again. Keep trying.
Dont say your drifting away. With my eyes you are coming towards us, towards islam. I want u to do something tomorow for allah. For e.g to please allah i will hug and kiss my parents,
I will give sadqa to a charity shop(pick a muslim one) i will spend a few moments having a chat with a lonley old women. Now whatever you choose to do, keep it a secret dont boast about it. Inshallah if you do things for allah he will do things for u. And soon he will comfort you.

Now this chick, i understand u not wanting to marry her. I want you to spend a week without her( i know u can do it, i have special feeling) now. In this week lots of talking to allah, find the meaning of salah, pray. Start off with 1/2 salahs. If u can do 5 great! Go to masjid. Pray with jamaat. When u go masjid give salam to all the brothers.
Dont overdo it. Just do what u can.
See how you feel.
You have done the hard bit, you made the first step. The rest, inshallah will be easy.
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S<Chowdhury
01-17-2010, 01:23 AM
*** also i'd like to add there is a misconception about how as parents you can protect your child from everything desi parents especially. My parents were and are still very strict practising Muslims, especially my mother, she's really old school. And to be honest in my personal experience you can be the best parent in the world but unless your with your child 24hrs a day 7 days a week you can't stop it, especially with the internet, fb etc.

Even with the fear of my parents and there punishments i continued to do the bad things, no matter how hard my father could beat me and my mother screaming at me, this just lead me to despise them even more and rebel harder. With hindsight now i feel obv guilty but when your a teen you need to experiment, well i personally felt that need. The only way my parents could of prevented it was literally overlooking everything they did, my mum actually attempted it in the last bid but she couldn't even manage it, well i couldn't move without 21 Qs but i guess i brought it all on myself but at the time i considered running away from home.

So what I'm trying to get at is, unless your child is home tutored or they are totally separated from there peers, you cant stop them from experiencing at least some of it, you can hope they say "No" etc but other than that unless you physically cage them in. And I wasn't alone in experiencing things that are seen to be sinful, other muslim bro and sis did so as well. So maybe i can answer the question whether i'd let my children go clubbing, i would defo tell them and advise them not to but if they do then i'm not going to physically stop them.
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CosmicPathos
01-17-2010, 01:28 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
*** also i'd like to add there is a misconception about how as parents you can protect your child from everything desi parents especially. My parents were and are still very strict practising Muslims, especially my mother, she's really old school. And to be honest in my personal experience you can be the best parent in the world but unless your with your child 24hrs a day 7 days a week you can't stop it, especially with the internet, fb etc.

Even with the fear of my parents and there punishments i continued to do the bad things, no matter how hard my father could beat me and my mother screaming at me, this just lead me to despise them even more and rebel harder. With hindsight now i feel obv guilty but when your a teen you need to experiment, well i personally felt that need. The only way my parents could of prevented it was literally overlooking everything they did, my mum actually attempted it in the last bid but she couldn't even manage it, well i couldn't move without 21 Qs but i guess i brought it all on myself but at the time i considered running away from home.

So what I'm trying to get at is, unless your child is home tutored or they are totally separated from there peers, you cant stop them from experiencing at least some of it, you can hope they say "No" etc but other than that unless you physically cage them in. And I wasn't alone in experiencing things that are seen to be sinful, other muslim bro and sis did so as well. So maybe i can answer the question whether i'd let my children go clubbing, i would defo tell them and advise them not to but if they do then i'm not going to physically stop them.
You have hit a very important point here. Muslims generally think its ok to live in a kaafir society as long as you are practicing your deen. But you just showed it that no matter what a Muslim does, living in a kaafir society WILL HAVE effects on him or his children ..... unless he cages and isolates himself from the society. Muslims must be migrating back to Muslims lands, even if they have to leave good jobs, if they want to protect their faith or their children's. Thats my opinion and I plan to do it as soon as I am done with my education. INshALLAH. Off topic though.
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S<Chowdhury
01-17-2010, 01:44 AM
I'm not trying to justify my actions by saying other muslim peers of my age did so too, its just a fact and its not my parents fault as they were too strict, not at all, i take full responsibility for my actions no one but me choose that path.

But you can't always use discipline but what i find with many parents is that its the only thing they use. U need a balance or if you keep using physical discipline or anything similar when your child is in his or her teens more likely than most it'll have the opposite desired effects.
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CosmicPathos
01-17-2010, 01:54 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
I'm not trying to justify my actions by saying other muslim peers of my age did so too, its just a fact and its not my parents fault as they were too strict, not at all, i take full responsibility for my actions no one but me choose that path.

But you can't always use discipline but what i find with many parents is that its the only thing they use. U need a balance or if you keep using physical discipline or anything similar when your child is in his or her teens more likely than most it'll have the opposite desired effects.
I see what you mean. But I guess I have been blessed by God to have had old school parents who were educated yet also not so lenient to give into the desires of children. So i guess different things work for different type of children depending on their genetics.
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S<Chowdhury
01-17-2010, 02:03 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by desert winds
Asslam alaikum.
I am glad u tried to talk to allah, i want to try to get you to understand how allah felt when you did this. Now this is a hadith but dont no details. Imagine your in open land and your horse runs away. U have no other means of travel no communication. How would you feel? Devastated? Let down? Loose hope that ur horse will return. Then it does! Can u imagine the happiness? Unexplainable.
Thats how allah feels when we turn to him.
Heres a simple sentence: ya rabbi ighfirli. My god, forgive me.
Talk to allah again. Keep trying.
Dont say your drifting away. With my eyes you are coming towards us, towards islam. I want u to do something tomorow for allah. For e.g to please allah i will hug and kiss my parents,
I will give sadqa to a charity shop(pick a muslim one) i will spend a few moments having a chat with a lonley old women. Now whatever you choose to do, keep it a secret dont boast about it. Inshallah if you do things for allah he will do things for u. And soon he will comfort you.

Now this chick, i understand u not wanting to marry her. I want you to spend a week without her( i know u can do it, i have special feeling) now. In this week lots of talking to allah, find the meaning of salah, pray. Start off with 1/2 salahs. If u can do 5 great! Go to masjid. Pray with jamaat. When u go masjid give salam to all the brothers.
Dont overdo it. Just do what u can.
See how you feel.
You have done the hard bit, you made the first step. The rest, inshallah will be easy.
Sister everytime i read your replies they make me smile in the gd way because your filled with soo much faith n optimism, i liked the hadith especially. Hmmm tomorrow i will attempt to do something for Allah, I'm willing to try but when you say to spend a week without her, meaning i have to stop all contact with her?

I came here looking for guidance and i said i'm open minded about trying things to find my way back, so I'll give you my word in attempting everything you said for a week starting from monday, but then i really don't need to give you my word as the only person i'm fooling is myself if i don't do it, and God well he's the all knowing isn't he so i really can't cheat him can i .
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S<Chowdhury
01-17-2010, 02:13 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Wa7abiScientist
You have hit a very important point here. Muslims generally think its ok to live in a kaafir society as long as you are practicing your deen. But you just showed it that no matter what a Muslim does, living in a kaafir society WILL HAVE effects on him or his children ..... unless he cages and isolates himself from the society. Muslims must be migrating back to Muslims lands, even if they have to leave good jobs, if they want to protect their faith or their children's. Thats my opinion and I plan to do it as soon as I am done with my education. INshALLAH. Off topic though.
In all due respect no matter where you bring up your child, maybe its less likely for your child to get caught up in this in Muslim countries but it will happen, though the punishment is more severe for such behaviour, even faced with these stakes if a child really wants to do what ever wrongful activity he/she chooses and if they are smart enough to conceal it well, most often than not brother unfortunately they'll get away with it and other peers will start to get interested and the cycle continues. Yes some will get caught but by then the wrongful act has already been committed in most cases.
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Ramadhan
01-17-2010, 09:45 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
Do we really know what Islam is made of? Its written in foreign tongue that i personally don't understand, I'm not sure about you brother if you understand the language but it was written over 1400 years ago, so are we really getting the truth or is it like Chinese whispers where a lot of things have been lost in translation etc
This should be a non-issue for you.
Chinese whisper is if the original source is already lost, but we all know that the Qur'an that we have today is exactly the same Qur'an that was revealed to the prophet Muhammad SAW 1400 years ago.

And the Qur'an is the only holy scripture that is unchanged since revelation.
The perfect case of chinese whisper is actually the bible, written tens of years to centuries after prophet Iesa pbuh was raised to heaven. Many of the authors of the bible are unknown, it has been translated so many times with different versions each time, we don't know how many passages were removed and how many were added, it has been revised so many times with different interpretations each time depending on the prevailing social/political conditions.
Right now, we don't know what exactly the true complete message of the bible were, and even bible scholars acknowledge this.
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ume-dawood
01-17-2010, 11:07 AM
Well, as i understood it you have this idea sine you were born in a muslim family, you are a muslim too. Well i do not agree with this idea as you admit that since you could think and act independentally you left this paths. Perhaps it wasn't your path from the very beginning. Islam does not accept and allows acceptance by force. Even if you are brought up as a muslim and follow the religion, you yourself in your heart, without any obligation have to accept Islam truthfully. Not because of the love of your parents, because you will get good wealth by being their heir, for your beloved or any love or reason other than Islam itself.

Again about that " book in foreign language", All the knowledge that you study now in english was not in english in the very first pplace. Its only in 17th and 18th century that english laguage was boen and polished. Once it was the language of most illiterate, trivial and down-trodden street folks which was not respected. Instead French, Latin, Spenish and other languages were in use. All this knowledge that has provided the basis for all this development and gave birth to science was originated by Arabs, in the same foreign laguage that our HOLY BOOK QURAN is today.
Now that world has become a global village, they translate every knowlege in every language. New discoveries which are made by Germans, Russians, China or any other nation get translated into other languages, We study them, use them and enjoy them.

I am glad that for once you trying to think rationally. But do not make excuses such as foreign language, age, peer pressure, GF. Grow up and get a life. Set your priority and research as you do for your career or other decision in life. Get a good translation of The Holy Book only if you are interested to study and listen being fair. Listen to explanation and bayans. If you have questions ask some good Imam. If you feel shy, go to an Imam who does not reside in the area that you hangout. And if this does not help, tell him that you are interested in islam and are researching and need some answers.

Yes Islam has many a things common with christianity (only the things that they didn't change as they have altered the divine revelations for their own convineince over the time). Islam is the very first and last religion that has been sent to humanbeings and as they forget it or alter the rules and add fake things the prophets were sent to set the records and accounts right and followup as you say it. Infact, they call it christianity because they name Prophet Iesa (May Allah Subahana-hu Ta-ala be pleased with him) christ and they name it after him.

you could in the same slang language call Islam something after the name of our Prophet(sall Allah-u-eleihi wa aalihi wa sallam). But we do not like it and do not allow it.

And if you read Quran you would come to know that this life is granted to you to live by your choice. So, you are told the dos and don'ts and now its up to you how you want to live and what you wan to score for the next life.

Why do people plead guilty to the worldly authorities who judge them. If you abide by the rule which are made by people like you and do not question them, how do you find in your heart to question Him who's authority and power is above all that you can think and imagine. In a court one hase to admit the charges, if they plead guilty, they still get the punishment but a little less. If they do not plead guilty, they still get punished but it's tough then and it might include other penalties for othe issues e.g misleading the law. But with Allah Subahana-hu Ta-ala if you plead guilty truthfully, it's all forgiven. Isn't that great?

Everybody has to start the search somewhere, I also started it late, much later than you. Start now. With an open and undobtful heart just study and look at the things rationally and logically. Best of luck.

www.divinesystemrestoration.com
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aadil77
01-17-2010, 11:58 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
In all due respect no matter where you bring up your child, maybe its less likely for your child to get caught up in this in Muslim countries but it will happen, though the punishment is more severe for such behaviour, even faced with these stakes if a child really wants to do what ever wrongful activity he/she chooses and if they are smart enough to conceal it well, most often than not brother unfortunately they'll get away with it and other peers will start to get interested and the cycle continues. Yes some will get caught but by then the wrongful act has already been committed in most cases.
That is true bruv, it all depends on the upbringing. There has to be a balance between everything, the child has to be taught fear of Allah and conciousness of him - Taqwa, not just pure fear of parents. They might be able to conceal sins from their parents, but if they fear Allah and are aware that Allah sees everything then they will know that they will be unable to conceal their sins from Allah.

The main thing is they should be aware of the qualities of Allah. I know what you mean by desi parents, my parents have tried to have me on locks but I know if I really wanted to - I could get away with the worst of sins, but the reason I don't do them is not out of fear of my parents but out of fear of Allah, fear of Allahs punishment, fear of going astray and loosing my iman.

It doesn't matter what environment you're in you can be brought up as a practising muslim, it all depends on a good upbringing and islamic education.
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S<Chowdhury
01-17-2010, 12:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77
That is true bruv, it all depends on the upbringing. There has to be a balance between everything, the child has to be taught fear of Allah and conciousness of him - Taqwa, not just pure fear of parents. They might be able to conceal sins from their parents, but if they fear Allah and are aware that Allah sees everything then they will know that they will be unable to conceal their sins from Allah.

The main thing they should be aware of the qualities of Allah. I know what you mean by desi parents, my parents have tried to have me on locks but I know if I really wanted to - I could get away with the worst of sins, but the reason I don't do them is not out of fear of my parents but out of fear of Allah, fear of Allahs punishment, fear of going astray and loosing my iman.

It doesn't matter what environment you're in you can be brought up as a practising muslim, it all depends on a good upbringing and islamic education.
True that brother, fear of parents is not enough. I think it just really comes down to you at the end of the day, a parent can only do so much the rest is for you to decide. But i guess i'm going of the topic on this thread with this thats why i started another thread in the family section to debate the whole issue.
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brotherubaid
01-17-2010, 12:42 PM
Bro u mentuioned something about Islam comming after christianity n all n how it is all in arabic n how its been 1400 years n may be it all got mixed up.


well first of all Allah took it upon Himself to preserve the Quran , n Also the arabic language is still till this day spoken in many parts of the world , not to mention how easy it i sto learn it , so how n where will thins get confused n changed in translation?

Only if u could visit madeenah universiy in saudi arabia , n see some of the students there from ALL over the world n how they learn arabic n speak it , I mean i met brothers from stockholm! u name it , there are alll types of nationalities there , so this doubt should not even arise that May be it changed over the years co zit was in arabic , only if u knew in our past in india n pakistan Arabic would be a must to learn for the kids , it has only recently changed , N no Part of the Quran has been changed n the Sunnah has been procteted n sealed with a science know as the sciane of isnaad or chain of narrators , so AlhumdolILLAH notthing out of it will be distorted , n if some one tries the scholars n people of hadith in all times will correct it and take the newly added away frm the authentic.

N islam came after christianity n there are soo many same things in he both faith only show that IT was Allah who sent it to jesus n He sent it to Muhammad sala lahu alih wa sallam , why? coz obviously christians had lost the true teachings of christianity n innovated n lost monotheism , the religion of all prphets.

People all over the world are running to Islam , yet muslims are in doubt n running away?

Inna Lillah W Inna ilyahi rajoiun

Bro , i have a good news for u ,

If u repent n stay stead fast , Allah will change ur sins into good deeds , Yes! So frm one scale right to the other , just like that!

surah Al Furqaan Ayah 70

. Except those who repent and believe , and do righteous deeds, for those, Allâh will change their sins into good deeds, and Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful

The ayaat before it are also beautiful , check the out InshahAllah from 63 till this ayah 70.
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S<Chowdhury
01-17-2010, 01:10 PM
Thanx bro for you reply brotherubaid but also everyone else, I've tried to personally reply to every1 who gave me advice but forgive if i haven't. since i've started this thread I've been given an abundance of information, and i've started printing off many of the scriptures and advice that brothers and sisters have given me and started to read them, so bear with me whilst i try to digest all this information and try to research Islam myself, the links have been helpful. From tomorrow following the advice of one sister, i plan to set my priorities straight and give up a few things for a week and see how i feel about it. I'm not saying in a week everything will be fixed, i guess there is a long road ahead of me but i'm willing to try, so keep giving me advice every lil helps and I'll look at it with an open mind i guess.
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desert winds
01-17-2010, 01:38 PM
Asslam alaikum.
If u can do it for a week great! But you need to know yourself how much is suitable. If a week seems too much try 3 days.
Inshallah they will make a big difference.
I am here on this topic only to help you. It is our duty to help each other. Imagine if we didnt, would the ummah increase?
Every single one of us has been down. Some people trodd on us.others lift us up and push us to allah. And thats how it should be.
This emptiness your feeling is a great thing! So say alhamdolillah(thanks to allah) humans are ungrateful if allah gave us happiness would we remember him?
I am eager to hear of any progress u make.
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M..x
01-17-2010, 02:37 PM
I'm not easily offended Sis, so none taken, and its okey i don't mind the questions....
Goodies =)

"wouldn't i want to be with someone with the same goals in life as you? " My goal has always been to become successful, i guess i've been chasing material things but that is because its what's driven me so far in life. But referring to the question i guess we share the same goals, she wants success and other things aswell.
You seem to be mature in tha sense you know whats right from wrong. Bro, what are you guna get after you achieve all that success..? When you've got to tha top, then what? You'll just want to come crashing down.. So meny whu have reached tha top, 'lived tha high life' are yearning for a different life, they're escaping it? Buh fools like us are still chasing it, why dont we take heed from examples that we have aktally lived to see...
E.g tha story of Napolean, also known for his part in Outlawz, group wif Tupac...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYcJPyHITM4
Loon... Hip hp rapper...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1rVoaWnuUU

I think its proper inspriational looking at these brothers, it helps you find tha sweetness of iman again, and tha way they talk abouh Islam is just amaaazing... & these are people whu lived that crap buh yet out of all tha things in tha wurld, Islam is what appeals to them... Theres gotta be a reason for that right? No complex theories, debating, etc just evidence showing tha beauty of Islam...



" Different lifestyles we lead causes confusion when bringing up children"

This is the main issue, yet I'm still young and children etc hasn't really been the major topic but from what we've discussed so far hmm i know for a fact its a sin not to raise your child as a Muslim if your a Muslim yourself.
But hypothetically if i did marry her and we had children, hmm i guess i'd teach my children Islam and let them decide when they are old enough if they wish to be fully practising. This is what I'd probably do if i was a practising muslim or not.
TherforeI think stuff likes this needs to be discussed, if wou wish to find Islam again, du you not think that will severley impakt that? Don't you think its wiser to break up, and find your path, let her find hers and if its tha same one, then marry her?


In terms of the alcohol, clubbing, non-halal food....etc, well it mite be different for other people, but my gf doesn't drink.
The clubbing, she's told me she's been to a few, but whilst we've been together she hasn't but house parties are more of a place she'd rather socialise but i guess its no better than clubbing. In terms of the clubbing and if i'd allow my children to do so I'm not sure i'll have to ask her about that.
Halal food at home of course its halal for me and she hasn't got a problem with it, meat is meat to her, no difference if its blessed. And well since she's been with me there's no eating of the swine.
House parties = same thing. SubhanAllah! Man this Ummah is in pieces, even if we know clubbing is wrong, we're still contenplating sending our children there or not. =( Just a question? Would you alluw sendin your sister there? Is it oka for her to be surrounded where theres drink/waisemans etc... Yeah she might have the correkt intention, buh dont expekt fools lurking there to have aswell.
Your sister is just an example, no implication or offence intended.

Lastly asking her to convert, I will ask and try to make her see sense in God when I've resolved my own issues, but I've said from the beginning I'm not going to push her into a religion.
Good, buh ultimetly, if you find tha beauty of tha religon, its guna clash bigtim wit her views nah?


But i guess i'm more lucky than others, she's willing to compromise and give up a few things but then so am I. And well you may term it as a 'phase' but its not just because I'm not married to her legally doesn't mean its not serious nor will it just pass. But then that's my opinion.
Compromise to what extent?

Salaam
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gladTidings
01-17-2010, 02:41 PM
Salaam

Just one piece of advice: seek good company and make friends with some practicing muslims. It will help you incredibly.:)

“Man models himself after his companion; so let each one of you see who he chooses for companion” (At-Tirmidhi)

“The example of a good companion and a bad one is the bearer of musk and the worker on the bellows. A bearer of musk would give you some, you might buy some from him, or you might enjoy the fragrance of his musk. The worker on the bellows, on the other hand, might spoil your clothes with sparks from his bellows, or you get a bad smell from him.” (Reported by Al-Bukhari and Muslim, this version being Muslim’s)

Read more: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...#ixzz0csfDc2RH
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S<Chowdhury
01-17-2010, 04:25 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
You seem to be mature in tha sense you know whats right from wrong. Bro, what are you guna get after you achieve all that success..? When you've got to tha top, then what? You'll just want to come crashing down.. So meny whu have reached tha top, 'lived tha high life' are yearning for a different life, they're escaping it? Buh fools like us are still chasing it, why dont we take heed from examples that we have aktally lived to see...
Okey the videos were insightful i remember that song " I need a girl" gd song lol, but i already knew about the Muslim brothers in the industy, Mos Def, Lupe Fiasco, K'Naan to name a few, and I've heard there interviews about how they found emptiness in there life and then found Islam, then some are born Muslim. I see how i should take an example from them, they've lived their life did the "jet set lifestyle". Maybe a came off a little too materialistic, I'm not looking to become a billionaire just enough so i don't struggle in life, a little more humble rather than the fancy 20 room mansion. And when i reached where i want to be, hopefully i can retire and travel the world , IDK sister i really haven't thought that far ahead, I'm more interested in right now to be honest.

format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
" Different lifestyles we lead causes confusion when bringing up children" TherforeI think stuff likes this needs to be discussed, if wou wish to find Islam again, du you not think that will severley impakt that? Don't you think its wiser to break up, and find your path, let her find hers and if its tha same one, then marry her? House parties = same thing.
And we will discuss it, but there is no point me discussing it now when I'm not even sure of my religion. Yes it will impact the relationship, I'm gna change if i start practising Islam again, lets be real now. But right now I feel even if i was a practising Muslim i would not give her up. Maybe it will change after this week as I'm embarking on attempting to have no contact with her for a week, who knows but right now thats how I'm feeling.

Sister I think you've stereotyped my GF forgive me if I'm wrong as them white women you see go clubbing nearly every nite of the week and not dressing modestly. Maybe i should make it clear that she's actually not from Eng, she originates from Canada and she's a mix of Canadian and Native American.

format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
Man this Ummah is in pieces, even if we know clubbing is wrong, we're still contenplating sending our children there or not. =( Just a question? Would you alluw sendin your sister there? Is it oka for her to be surrounded where theres drink/waisemans etc... Yeah she might have the correkt intention, buh dont expekt fools lurking there to have aswell
As a teen I've done it all, so i know what happens at house parties and clubs so i really can't say really to my sister not to go because then I'm a double standard. I'll tell her the truth and what happens at these events, and even with my experience and my warning if she still wishes to go, well I'm not prepared to lock her in her. But that doesn't mean i'd stop trying to tell her not to go, i won't give up but like i said i won't physically stop her.

format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
Good, buh ultimetly, if you find tha beauty of tha religon, its guna clash bigtim wit her views nah?
Well it hasn't been that bad so far compromises have worked, I'm not gonna gloss over it and say everything is fine. We have the Ups and Downs, we disagree over things, that if i was with a Muslim Wife i would probably not have a problem with but which couple doesn't have arguments married or not. But we both end up at the end of the day still wanting to be with each other, maybe that might not last forever but does every Muslim marriage last forever divorces happen.

You know Next week after I'll actually sit down with her and discuss the issues that you've raised. Maybe I can give a more in depth answer then. So if you got anymore questions send me them.
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S<Chowdhury
01-17-2010, 04:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by desert winds
Asslam alaikum.
If u can do it for a week great! But you need to know yourself how much is suitable. If a week seems too much try 3 days.
Inshallah they will make a big difference.
I am here on this topic only to help you. It is our duty to help each other. Imagine if we didnt, would the ummah increase?
Every single one of us has been down. Some people trodd on us.others lift us up and push us to allah. And thats how it should be.
This emptiness your feeling is a great thing! So say alhamdolillah(thanks to allah) humans are ungrateful if allah gave us happiness would we remember him?
I am eager to hear of any progress u make.
I think I'm able to do a week hopefully, we'll see hmm I'll let you know through the week. :) thanx
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brotherubaid
01-17-2010, 05:55 PM
Alright brother , May Allah help u n guide u

Take ur time , one day at a time InshahAllah , I will InshahAllah keep u in my duaa bro , trust me when u really see the other side , it will be soo sweet n beautiful u will hate ur past life


Like ibn al qayyim tells about ibn taymiyah who used to say
In this world there is a Paradise, whoever does not enter it will not enter the Paradise of the Hereafter ---- The paradise of being righteous , the paradise of righteous actions n a good life itself is a paradise , I hope u get to taste it , there is notthing sweeter n more satisfying.

He also said

The one who is (truly) imprisoned is the one whose heart is imprisoned from Allaah and the captivated one is the one whose desires have enslaved him

I would suggest articles n works by Ibn Qayyim , he writes about the heart a lot , n his works really do touch the heart , Bro its all about the heart really , if the heart becomes right everything else falls into place.


Check

The Description of Paradise By Ibn Al Qayyim
http://istighfar.wordpress.com/2007/...on-of-paradise

Bro do check the above link out , if not then do check out its end , its beautiful i will go ahead n post it here

And if you ask about the Day of Increase (in reward) and the visit of the all-Mighty, all-Wise, and the sight of His Face – free from any resemblance or likeness to anything – as you see the Sun in the middle of the day and the full Moon on a cloudless night, then listen on the day that the caller will call: ‘O People of Paradise! Your Lord – Blessed and Exalted – requests you to visit Him, so come to visit Him!’ So they will say: ‘We hear and obey!’

Until, when they finally reach the wide valley where they will all meet – and none of them will turn down the request of the caller – the Lord – Blessed and Exalted – will order His Chair to be brought there. Then, pulpits of light will emerge, as well as pulpits of pearls, gemstone, gold, and silver. The lowest of them in rank will sit on sheets of musk, and will not see what those who are on the chairs above them are given. When they are comfortable where they are sitting and are secure in their places, and the caller calls: ‘O People of Paradise! You have an appointment with Allaah in which He wishes to reward you!’ So they will say: ‘And what is that reward? Has He not already made our faces bright, made our scales heavy, entered us into Paradise, and pushed us away from the Fire?’


And when they are like that, all of a sudden a light shines that encompasses all of Paradise. So, they raise their heads, and, behold: the Compeller – Exalted is He, and Holy are His Names – has come to them from above them and majestified them and said: ‘O People of Paradise! Peace be upon you!’ So, this greeting will not be responded to with anything better than: ‘O Allaah! You are Peace, and from You is Peace! Blessed are You, O possessor of Majesty and Honor!’ So the Lord – Blessed and Exalted – will laugh to them and say: ‘O People of Paradise! Where are those who used to obey Me without having ever seen Me? This is the Day of Increase!’

So, they will all give the same response: ‘We are pleased, so be pleased with us!’ So, He will say:

O People of Paradise! If I were not pleased with you, I would not have made you inhabitants of My Paradise! So, ask of Me!’ So, they will all give the same response: ‘Show us your Face so that we may look at it!’ So, the Lord – Mighty and Majestic – will remove his covering and will majestify them and will cover them with His Light, which, if Allaah – the Exalted – had not Willed not to burn them, would have burned them.

And there will not remain a single person in this gathering except that his Lord – the Exalted – will speak to him and say: ‘Do you remember the day that you did this and that?’ and He will remind him of some of his bad deeds in the Worldy life, so he will say: ‘O Lord! Will you not forgive me?’ So, He will say: ‘Of course! You have not reached this position of yours (in Paradise) except by my forgiveness.’

So, how sweet is this speech to the ears, and how cooled are the righteous eyes by the glance at His Noble Face in the Afterlife…

{Some faces that Day will be shining and radiant, looking at their Lord…} (al-Qiyaamah:22-3)


NEXT ARTICLE
A sin that Leads To Jannah

http://khaldun.wordpress.com/2009/10...ads-to-jannah/
or http://istighfar.wordpress.com/2008/...ads-to-jannah/


This is a link to some of the nice little articles by ibn al qayyim , browse the two pages , its pretty nice
http://istighfar.wordpress.com/category/ibn-al-qayyim/
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S<Chowdhury
01-17-2010, 06:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by peãrl
Salaam

Just one piece of advice: seek good company and make friends with some practicing muslims. It will help you incredibly.:)

“Man models himself after his companion; so let each one of you see who he chooses for companion” (At-Tirmidhi)
Hmm well I've got a few Muslim ppl as friends but to be honest most of them are the " Modern Muslims" hence the reason we get along quite well lol. Hmm but many of friends would be supportive i guess if i told them whats been going on religion wise, but well my friends never forced me into the things i did, it was all my choice. But i guess if you stick around gd muslim ppl you won't be given the choice of doing bad things.

thanx 4 da advice thou :)
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aadil77
01-17-2010, 06:31 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
Hmm well I've got a few Muslim ppl as friends but to be honest most of them are the " Modern Muslims" hence the reason we get along quite well lol. Hmm but many of friends would be supportive i guess if i told them whats been going on religion wise, but well my friends never forced me into the things i did, it was all my choice. But i guess if you stick around gd muslim ppl you won't be given the choice of doing bad things.

thanx 4 da advice thou :)
no offence bro but the whole 'modern muslim' concept is hilarious, people have to know it aint acceptable, you're either muslim or you're not. You can't pick or choose what you think is ok.

InshAllah you'll be able to guide them soon yourself

My mates aren't practising muslims but they atleast acknowledge that what they're doing is wrong
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S<Chowdhury
01-17-2010, 06:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77
no offence bro but the whole 'modern muslim' concept is hilarious, people have to know it aint acceptable, you're either muslim or you're not. You can't pick or choose what you think is ok.

InshAllah you'll be able to guide them soon yourself

My mates aren't practising muslims but they atleast acknowledge that what they're doing is wrong
None taken i despise that word as well " Modern Muslim" if religion was all about choosing certain rules i wouldn't be here asking for help lool
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S<Chowdhury
01-18-2010, 02:59 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza81

We would NOT be able to handle a single second in the hell fire my Brother, we cannot even imagine how terrifying this will be so we should do our best in this life to seek protection from it and make our good deeds balance as heavy as possible!
After reading Hamza81 reply and following the links which go on to talk about the hell fire :raging:, Brother I don't know how to quite explain it but the promise of eternal hellfire for not repenting my sins etc no longer frightens me, it has no effect on me at all. I think I've said this before but even with the descriptiveness of what happens in hell, I feel nothing. I do believe in the after life i guess but now i'm wondering have i lost my faith in the after life as well? Or is it natural sometimes not feel fear of Hell and God's punishments?
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brotherubaid
01-18-2010, 07:47 AM
The imaan , Faith reduces n increases , it happens to al of us , for instance if i stop reciting the quran n redue in its recitation , ( n i dont mean just reciting the arabic quran without knowing its meaning, i understand arabic) n pondeing over its meanings , i really feel its grave effects on my heart n my deen in general , i feel like my iman reduces , Liek the Prophet Sala Lahu alihi wa sallam told us , Iman decreases n increases , it increases with good deeds n decreases with sins n disobedience n trangressions , so nautrally brother u are in a state where it has reduced , hence the fear has gone , it happnes , trust me ur not the only one , it happens to everyone , in life we go through diffrent periods , sometime sour iman is soo high no fitnah or temptation is big enough other times we easily fall into huge sins.

What i would suggest bro , n lol i know u have been given lots n lots of suggestions n material in this thread , but any way , bro get the knowledge , n lie i said work on ur heart , We are supposed to get closer to Allah with Hope n Fear , not just fear , we gotta balance them both , and many times the hope of his reward n his pleasure can easily make us do things we never though we could , so for some people hope works n for some fear ,

And it is All about LOVE

N the only way love of Allah comes is when we get to know him , the more we know Him n About Him the more we love him , Dont we see what love can do to us in our daily lifes , How some one does the impossible for love , have u not seen people change completely coz of love, Like the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam told us , It is the love of something that makes u deaf n blind, we see that brothers that could never quit smoking for instance , easily leave it after they get engaged or something. Its easy to do things in love , to change n make changes , So imagine if u REALLY LOVED ALLAH ,. Wouldt it all become sooo easy ? Whatever is soo strange n difficult now will all be soo easy , no temptation wil be big enough , all u woud ever care about is to have ur Lord happy , n seek his pleasure , No one will need to tell u to pray , Ur heaert will be restless thinking about the next prayer n how n where will u pray it , u will look fgor places n moments to be alone with Allah n just call upon him , praise him n ask him , n confess his bounties upon u , confess whatever he has blessed u with , Coz for sure he has given u what he has not given a lot of his slaves , he has saved u from soo many problems n calamities n well diseases n disabalities , not to mention he gave u n ur parenst a chance to live a good life away from the misery n suffering of some people or ur origin back in pakistan , fiending for a drop of water n a bite of bread.

Bro get to know Allah , with knowledge Love wil come about m fear will come , hopoe will arise , n u will become a loved slave of Allah n hey u just might be the luck ones mentioned in this Hadith ...

Allah's Messenger, sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam, said:
"If Allah loves someone He calls (angel) Jibreel and says: I
love so-and-so, so you love him. Jibreel loves him, and calls
the other angels in Heaven to love that person. They love him,
then his love will be made upon earth, and he becomes loved.

"And if Allah hates someone He calls Jibreel and says: I hate
so-and-so and you hate him. Jibreel hates him and calls the
angels in Heaven and says: Allah hates so-and-so, so you all
hate him. They all hate him, and his hatred is made upon earth
and he becomes hated." - Muslim



So bro if fear is not working , Try love , try hope , know Alllah , Know his greatness n His kingdom n authority n his rewards n how much He loves us n cares for us , how much has He got prepared for us .. ohh bro .. only if u knew , its alright , its never too late n im soo glad ur here man , Bro , seek knowledge , not the frighteniong things coz they are obvioulsy not working , but just by knowing Allah , His beautiful names n Attributes .... n his words , the quran , right between our hands

Ikramah bin abu jahl radi Allah anhu used to would place the Quran on his face and cry n say, "The Book of my Lord, the words of my Lord"

Allah make things easy bro
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M..x
01-18-2010, 06:25 PM
Okey the videos were insightful i remember that song " I need a girl" gd song lol, but i already knew about the Muslim brothers in the industy, Mos Def, Lupe Fiasco, K'Naan to name a few, and I've heard there interviews about how they found emptiness in there life and then found Islam, then some are born Muslim. I see how i should take an example from them, they've lived their life did the "jet set lifestyle". Maybe a came off a little too materialistic, I'm not looking to become a billionaire just enough so i don't struggle in life, a little more humble rather than the fancy 20 room mansion. And when i reached where i want to be, hopefully i can retire and travel the world , IDK sister i really haven't thought that far ahead, I'm more interested in right now to be honest.
Yeah once upon a time, I though that was a 'phat' tune aswell, buh years later, I got over it =). Bro, you most defo need to take example from them, don't you feel anything when watching them? Cause it just makes me feel all wierdly happy and erm like satsified? I cant explain. Live for tha moment eh? Maybe you should set your goals abit higher? How abouh living a ISLAMIC lifestyle and wurking for the afterlife? You know, I went backyard a lil while ago & kasme i saw some of the most POOREST kids and peopls, & I'm not just saying poor, poverty in Pakistan is like a completely different thing there. And you see tha most beautiful of families wif tha most gawjus kids buh they wurking at like 100 rupees an hour, thas barely a quid. Buh ya'no what, they are so content with their lives and they think even earning that is like so much. I'm sure they have a dream to just live in a clean house with some sort of stability. Buh I guess we're just too spoilt... Don't get me wrong still, there were bare crafty ones aswell =P

And we will discuss it, but there is no point me discussing it now when I'm not even sure of my religion. Yes it will impact the relationship, I'm gna change if i start practising Islam again, lets be real now. But right now I feel even if i was a practising Muslim i would not give her up. Maybe it will change after this week as I'm embarking on attempting to have no contact with her for a week, who knows but right now thats how I'm feeling.
Hang on, you're 'serious' with her buh you dont find stuff like thas as even relevant. Bro, you cant just pick and choose stuff that you want to practice. Islam is COMPLETE, not partial. & We can't make halal what is completely and utterly haraam. Zina is one of the wurst sins, and to even be able to comprehend the punishment from it just sends shivers down my spine. You know all I'm saying is, don't keep wif this mentality untill you regret it.

Sister I think you've stereotyped my GF forgive me if I'm wrong as them white women you see go clubbing nearly every nite of the week and not dressing modestly. Maybe i should make it clear that she's actually not from Eng, she originates from Canada and she's a mix of Canadian and Native American.
No steroptyping intended. =) I'm 20, I'm not deluded or ignorant about tha issues within tha community hence clubbing/houseparties appear to be kinda tha same thing. Not that I've been to eny buh from wha I see around me and hearing disgusting pathetic stories whu have attended, same fitnah, same sin, same concept.


As a teen I've done it all, so i know what happens at house parties and clubs so i really can't say really to my sister not to go because then I'm a double standard. I'll tell her the truth and what happens at these events, and even with my experience and my warning if she still wishes to go, well I'm not prepared to lock her in her. But that doesn't mean i'd stop trying to tell her not to go, i won't give up but like i said i won't physically stop her.
Well I first ask Allah to forgive you man, thats proper sad. Are you honestly and saying that bro? Not questioning you buh hand on heart. Because I feel if your able to control someone pyschically to stop commiting some of tha most baddest sins, then so be it. I approve.


Well it hasn't been that bad so far compromises have worked, I'm not gonna gloss over it and say everything is fine. We have the Ups and Downs, we disagree over things, that if i was with a Muslim Wife i would probably not have a problem with but which couple doesn't have arguments married or not. But we both end up at the end of the day still wanting to be with each other, maybe that might not last forever but does every Muslim marriage last forever divorces happen.
No, no marriage is perfekt. Agreed. Buh a Muslim wife will be better for you. And I hope she converts. I find converts to be beautiful, they are so passionate abouh religion leaving us to feel like proper idiots. They speak abouh Islam like it SHOULD be spoken abouh, not like some poxy set of rules that we 'HAVE to follow. =)

You know Next week after I'll actually sit down with her and discuss the issues that you've raised. Maybe I can give a more in depth answer then. So if you got anymore questions send me them.
Yeah I look foward to hearing it.

May I recommend you strongly watch Arrivals? Youtube it.. I love it. Although there are certain concepts regarding tha coming of tha Mahdi that I dont agree wit, tha underlying message however is just wickad.

Also you said you've lost fear in Allah and His punishments. Have you not seen what has happened in Haiti? Du you not fear your own fate. Duna if you remember, couple of years ago, I think '05, dya remember that Tsunami ripped Asia apart. NATIONS got wiped out wif a blink of an eye. Allah says in tha Quran that He will destroy nations and replace us wit new ones that are more God-fearing and better than us. Now, almost 4/5 years on, look at whats left of Haiti. And if you go back to them places , lifes going on like normal, like nothing happened. Allah has made us blind of it, he has wiped it from our memories, forgotton His signs.. Just as He said he would. Scare you nah? God knows wha our fate is... Also all tha signs of Qiyamah are happening right infront of us, every single one unfolding and just as tha way tha Prophet (saw) described, yet du you remain blind to that? Yeah, it was 1400 years ago, buh they are a mirror image of tha state of today, coincidence?
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S<Chowdhury
01-18-2010, 10:09 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
Yeah once upon a time, I though that was a 'phat' tune aswell, buh years later, I got over it =). Bro, you most defo need to take example from them, don't you feel anything when watching them? Cause it just makes me feel all wierdly happy and erm like satsified? I cant explain. Live for tha moment eh? Maybe you should set your goals abit higher? How abouh living a ISLAMIC lifestyle and wurking for the afterlife? You know, I went backyard a lil while ago & kasme i saw some of the most POOREST kids and peopls, & I'm not just saying poor, poverty in Pakistan is like a completely different thing there. And you see tha most beautiful of families wif tha most gawjus kids buh they wurking at like 100 rupees an hour, thas barely a quid. Buh ya'no what, they are so content with their lives and they think even earning that is like so much. I'm sure they have a dream to just live in a clean house with some sort of stability. Buh I guess we're just too spoilt... Don't get me wrong still, there were bare crafty ones aswell.

Sorry sis I didn’t feel that type of enlightenment from watching the videos, I was more lyk good for them :). Living for them moment hmm I suppose your right, but that’s me being honest about how I feel, err maybe I will change as time passes but unless as a brother pointed out if I get my faith and fear and Love God again, Maybe I mite start working for the after-life but now I am not fearful of it.

Sis, Poverty and hardship I am fully aware, both my parents are from 3rd world Countries, and I have visited and seen the various struggles of life, and many 3rd World countries share same charateristics …. Corruption, poverty but others are worse for instance lets take Congo. I am well aware, but I ask the question Why is there so much poverty? Why is it I am able to live such a better life to say the least? I guess, I’ll just generalise to 1 topic– Capitalism.



format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
Hang on, you're 'serious' with her buh you dont find stuff like thas as even relevant. Bro, you cant just pick and choose stuff that you want to practice. Islam is COMPLETE, not partial. & We can't make halal what is completely and utterly haraam. Zina is one of the wurst sins, and to even be able to comprehend the punishment from it just sends shivers down my spine. You know all I'm saying is, don't keep wif this mentality untill you regret it.
Obv I can’t pick or choose or I would not be here LMAO, but since I’m not feeling the fear, but even then? I can’t answer right now. We’ve been together for well hmm nearly two years now, so I guess she’s a part of my life and well without sounding all “loved up” haha thou I guess I can’t avoid it I luv her too much too leave, she means quite a lot to me.


format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
No steroptyping intended. =) I'm 20, I'm not deluded or ignorant about tha issues within tha community hence clubbing/houseparties appear to be kinda tha same thing. Not that I've been to eny buh from wha I see around me and hearing disgusting pathetic stories whu have attended, same fitnah, same sin, same concept.
Its okey, never said you were ignorant or deluded, though if I did imply it I’m sorry Sis. I ain’t that “ Party Freak” that I use to be I left that a while ago, I can safely say I haven’t been to a Club for well since I stopped so a year I think or so. Though I did go to the clubs/house parties/raves, stayed out during the night, well obv apart frm the dancing to them ravin tunes, n socialising with a lot of people ermm I did try weed for while stopped that. Havn’t touched alcohol so I guess I didn’t take part in the stuff that really messes you up never found that appealing. But yeah all the rest I guess I’ve done it but I left that all behind me now. Not to say I’ve turned away completely, obv I have my gf and I still socialise during the day and nights but go to a snooker hall, movies etc…


format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
Well I first ask Allah to forgive you man, thats proper sad. Are you honestly and saying that bro? Not questioning you buh hand on heart. Because I feel if your able to control someone pyschically to stop commiting some of tha most baddest sins, then so be it. I approve.
Hmm I guess personally I’ve had that done to me, my parents have stopped me physically home, not a pleasant experience and well for me it didn’t solve a thing, I still continued regardless. So sometimes using force isn’t but hand on heart I don’t think I would because one thing I hate is when people are double standard, So if I told my sis not to go etc… best believe she’d throw back at me all the times I did. But then hypothetically if I hadn’t done those bad things then it’d be questionable whether I used physical force or not. I’ll strive to protect her as much as I can but then if she’s adamant n I can’t get through to her is there any point in me physically doing it, maybe I can try it once, just to put fear in her but you can’t keep doing it over and over again. I’m not sure hopefully the situation never arises; I think she’s learnt from my mistakes.



format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
No, no marriage is perfekt. Agreed. Buh a Muslim wife will be better for you. And I hope she converts. I find converts to be beautiful, they are so passionate abouh religion leaving us to feel like proper idiots. They speak abouh Islam like it SHOULD be spoken abouh, not like some poxy set of rules that we 'HAVE to follow. =)


Yes, with a Muslim wife better in terms of the whole religion, raising children etc. But then we mostly get along if we don’t come across religion and raising children, everything else we do agree on I guess but like I said I realise if we both compromise on things meet each other half way and we both show a lot of understanding to one another, no reason why we can’t lead a successful marriage.

Yep I agree about the converts. She’s open minded not all that caught up in atheism but she sure does act like one sometimes. IDK maybe if we married and I kept trying with her maybe she’d find Islam appealing, IDK.



format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
Yeah I look foward to hearing it. May I recommend you strongly watch Arrivals? Youtube it.. I love it. Although there are certain concepts regarding tha coming of tha Mahdi that I dont agree wit, tha underlying message however is just wickad. Also you said you've lost fear in Allah and His punishments. Have you not seen what has happened in Haiti? Du you not fear your own fate. Duna if you remember, couple of years ago, I think '05, dya remember that Tsunami ripped Asia apart. NATIONS got wiped out wif a blink of an eye. Allah says in tha Quran that He will destroy nations and replace us wit new ones that are more God-fearing and better than us. Now, almost 4/5 years on, look at whats left of Haiti. And if you go back to them places , lifes going on like normal, like nothing happened. Allah has made us blind of it, he has wiped it from our memories, forgotton His signs.. Just as He said he would. Scare you nah? God knows wha our fate is... Also all tha signs of Qiyamah are happening right infront of us, every single one unfolding and just as tha way tha Prophet (saw) described, yet du you remain blind to that? Yeah, it was 1400 years ago, buh they are a mirror image of tha state of today, coincidence?

Mhmm will do I’ll look up Arrivals, about the fear thing like I said above right now yes I see Haiti and I do remember the Tsunami. I was actually watching a documentary on channel 4 about it, and the people there said it was an act of God to rid the country of sin that had taken place etc… insightful but like I said fear isn’t working with me I am not blind to the natural atrocities that have taken place, though I feel saddened that people that are going through what I can only explain as very traumatic time, but for now I don’t feel frightened.
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Maryan0
01-18-2010, 10:28 PM
Hell, heaven, angels the afterlife etc. these are all abstract ideas and unless you have faith and believe in these things they will neither frighten nor bother you. Judging from your first post you are looking to be better and improve yourself because you do realize the things that you have gotten involved in have lead you astray. The solution to that problem would be to remove those specific things from your life. If you are sincere in your intentions and sincere in your efforts to better yourself you will improve. If however, you are not sincere in your intentions and you say want to change but are not willing to put in the effort to change then don't expect things to change they will remain stagnant. Being a good muslim and having complete faith does not come easily you seem to think that everything will happen quickly, it wont, it's a gradual process and you need to take the first steps. At the end of the day we are all alone in this dunya and nobody can help you but yourself.
salam
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M..x
01-18-2010, 10:58 PM
Sorry sis I didn’t feel that type of enlightenment from watching the videos, I was more lyk good for them :). Living for them moment hmm I suppose your right, but that’s me being honest about how I feel, err maybe I will change as time passes but unless as a brother pointed out if I get my faith and fear and Love God again, Maybe I mite start working for the after-life but now I am not fearful of it.
I think, you need to go back to the basics tbh =)

Sis, Poverty and hardship I am fully aware, both my parents are from 3rd world Countries, and I have visited and seen the various struggles of life, and many 3rd World countries share same charateristics …. Corruption, poverty but others are worse for instance lets take Congo. I am well aware, but I ask the question Why is there so much poverty? Why is it I am able to live such a better life to say the least? I guess, I’ll just generalise to 1 topic– Capitalism.
I think lifes full of obstacles, some people are up there, some people have nothing, any ever step they take is a test by Allah. Some overcome it with their faith whilst others fail. Everyone strives for a better life, you get people with nothing to their name to be the most warm hearted and satisfied people. And it just drops tha question, why? But I guess, depending on what their striving for, each person is different. I think that Allah blessed us with the example of the Prophet (saw) by putting him through such different stages of life. i.e. He remains an example of the poor and tha rich as he himself went through it and through his example, it gives us guidence of how he would be. We need to stop chasing these materialistic goods, cause as with the wurld as we know, they will come to an end.

Also, Like when you go through different stages/difficulties or whatever in your life, you just feel like the only thing that answers your questions and give you some feeling of content is Islam. Nothing else fulfills your needs other than adopting such a lifestyle. You get people saying its controls you, takes over your life, stupid to be following rules written down in a book, buh I'd rather follow that then be puppets of this world, playing by tha games of tha kufaar, leaving us to chase this pathetic evil world. Islam gives you sukoon/peace, really does and its just so wickad. It gives you all tha answers you need. Its only as difficult as you make it for yourself. && I really hope you find it man.

You should consider reading about Hazrat Umar's (ra) reversion to Islam, proper inspirational to say tha least.

Obv I can’t pick or choose or I would not be here LMAO, but since I’m not feeling the fear, but even then? I can’t answer right now. We’ve been together for well hmm nearly two years now, so I guess she’s a part of my life and well without sounding all “loved up” haha thou I guess I can’t avoid it I luv her too much too leave, she means quite a lot to me.
If you want my honest view, 'love' is a sense of attachment nowdays. The desire to be cared for. How lng have you been together? How much have you seen together? I'm not talking about minor ups/downs. And have been tested to GREAT extremes? Honestly...? Cause nowdays relationships dont last.


Its okey, never said you were ignorant or deluded, though if I did imply it I’m sorry Sis. I ain’t that “ Party Freak” that I use to be I left that a while ago, I can safely say I haven’t been to a Club for well since I stopped so a year I think or so. Though I did go to the clubs/house parties/raves, stayed out during the night, well obv apart frm the dancing to them ravin tunes, n socialising with a lot of people ermm I did try weed for while stopped that. Havn’t touched alcohol so I guess I didn’t take part in the stuff that really messes you up never found that appealing. But yeah all the rest I guess I’ve done it but I left that all behind me now. Not to say I’ve turned away completely, obv I have my gf and I still socialise during the day and nights but go to a snooker hall, movies etc…
Daym. Thats all I gotta say. I really sincerely hope you find the right path and attain some for of taqwaa... InshAllah.


Hmm I guess personally I’ve had that done to me, my parents have stopped me physically home, not a pleasant experience and well for me it didn’t solve a thing, I still continued regardless. So sometimes using force isn’t but hand on heart I don’t think I would because one thing I hate is when people are double standard, So if I told my sis not to go etc… best believe she’d throw back at me all the times I did. But then hypothetically if I hadn’t done those bad things then it’d be questionable whether I used physical force or not. I’ll strive to protect her as much as I can but then if she’s adamant n I can’t get through to her is there any point in me physically doing it, maybe I can try it once, just to put fear in her but you can’t keep doing it over and over again. I’m not sure hopefully the situation never arises; I think she’s learnt from my mistakes.
I don't feel I can understand COMPLETELY how you feel. I love my parents, they dint lock me in a room and restrict me from having a life, nor did they let me free 24/7 so I can abuse their trust. Guess it comes to your individual personality. Buh having said that, as you said, your responsible for your own actions. You know, when you were rebelling, there was a reason your parents said all that. They didnt want to just waste their breath you know... Which coulda just made you stop and think. So I guess, hypothetically speaking, if you recognized your parents concern, you kinda woulda been in this situation. Buh I guess your tryna fix it now... =S so blaaaaaahhh


Yes, with a Muslim wife better in terms of the whole religion, raising children etc. But then we mostly get along if we don’t come across religion and raising children, everything else we do agree on I guess but like I said I realise if we both compromise on things meet each other half way and we both show a lot of understanding to one another, no reason why we can’t lead a successful marriage.
Lol. Okay..

You = Practicing + Wife = Atheism = INCOMPATIBLE (Islamically)

IT JUST WONT WORK.

Also to note, remember what you'd be putting your parents through aswell. I guess, it all comes down to whether you consider it to be right or wrong. Only way you guna know that is if you accept Islam as tha way of your life.


Yep I agree about the converts. She’s open minded not all that caught up in atheism but she sure does act like one sometimes. IDK maybe if we married and I kept trying with her maybe she’d find Islam appealing, IDK.

=/ & If she doesnt, you'll get married regardless?

Mhmm will do I’ll look up Arrivals, about the fear thing like I said above right now yes I see Haiti and I do remember the Tsunami. I was actually watching a documentary on channel 4 about it, and the people there said it was an act of God to rid the country of sin that had taken place etc… insightful but like I said fear isn’t working with me I am not blind to the natural atrocities that have taken place, though I feel saddened that people that are going through what I can only explain as very traumatic time, but for now I don’t feel frightened.
With all due respect, I've kinda given my views. I'll leave it to tha rest of tha brothers and sisters to help you find the path of truth. I hope you do proper. Good Luck. I hope Allah guides us all infact and helps us remain steadfast in tha deen. Ameen
P.S Recide Surah Fatihah =)

:sl: Wr Wb
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aadil77
01-18-2010, 10:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury
After reading Hamza81 reply and following the links which go on to talk about the hell fire :raging:, Brother I don't know how to quite explain it but the promise of eternal hellfire for not repenting my sins etc no longer frightens me, it has no effect on me at all. I think I've said this before but even with the descriptiveness of what happens in hell, I feel nothing. I do believe in the after life i guess but now i'm wondering have i lost my faith in the after life as well? Or is it natural sometimes not feel fear of Hell and God's punishments?
Just to let you know, eternal hellfire is reserved for disbelievers only, a muslim will be punished only for what sins he has left that were unrepented or not forgiven, so it won't be eternal although it may seem like forever.

It can be slightly natural because you haven't yet experienced it, but if you experience direct punishment in this dunya because of something it will put fear into you. Just today a family came to ask for forgiveness from my mums family in pakistan because of what they did to a certain family member, whilst they were driving back they had a bad accident and they broke their knecks, InshAllah we expect more to come because of the injustice they did to this family member.

As you gain more iman you will naturally fear Allah more
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S<Chowdhury
01-19-2010, 03:44 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
I think lifes full of obstacles, some people are up there, some people have nothing, any ever step they take is a test by Allah. Some overcome it with their faith whilst others fail. Everyone strives for a better life, you get people with nothing to their name to be the most warm hearted and satisfied people. And it just drops tha question, why? But I guess, depending on what their striving for, each person is different. I think that Allah blessed us with the example of the Prophet (saw) by putting him through such different stages of life. i.e. He remains an example of the poor and tha rich as he himself went through it and through his example, it gives us guidence of how he would be. We need to stop chasing these materialistic goods, cause as with the wurld as we know, they will come to an end. Also, Like when you go through different stages/difficulties or whatever in your life, you just feel like the only thing that answers your questions and give you some feeling of content is Islam. Nothing else fulfills your needs other than adopting such a lifestyle. You get people saying its controls you, takes over your life, stupid to be following rules written down in a book, buh I'd rather follow that then be puppets of this world, playing by tha games of tha kufaar, leaving us to chase this pathetic evil world. Islam gives you sukoon/peace, really does and its just so wickad. It gives you all tha answers you need. Its only as difficult as you make it for yourself. && I really hope you find it man. You should consider reading about Hazrat Umar's (ra) reversion to Islam, proper inspirational to say tha least.
Yes, I agree to the point if people changed there mentality induced by the myths of capitalism and greed etc then we could eradicate much poverty etc. But i see your point about faith and so on.


format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x

If you want my honest view, 'love' is a sense of attachment nowdays. The desire to be cared for. How lng have you been together? How much have you seen together? I'm not talking about minor ups/downs. And have been tested to GREAT extremes? Honestly...? Cause nowdays relationships dont last.
Err well i think i said it in my last post we've been together for 2 yrs, we've seen quite alot together to be honest... and its not the ups n downs, there been quite alot issues and we both burdened ourselves to help each other through them. Tested to great extremes, hmm nope, but this right here is defo a big issue for us and its testing my love for God and following his will, but also my love for her.

format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x

I don't feel I can understand COMPLETELY how you feel. I love my parents, they dint lock me in a room and restrict me from having a life, nor did they let me free 24/7 so I can abuse their trust. Guess it comes to your individual personality. Buh having said that, as you said, your responsible for your own actions. You know, when you were rebelling, there was a reason your parents said all that. They didnt want to just waste their breath you know... Which coulda just made you stop and think. So I guess, hypothetically speaking, if you recognized your parents concern, you kinda woulda been in this situation. Buh I guess your tryna fix it now... =S so blaaaaaahhh Lol.
Yep all about individual personality, mhmm of course I blame no one but me, there could be factors but at the end of the day it all comes down to me making them decisions because no one else did. I recognise them now with hindsight there concerns, yeh but at that time what they were saying didn't seem to be a big deal. To be honest when i look back at it, i was a pretty difficult teen to be honest, i think any parent would of had problems getting through to me ....


format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
Okay.. You = Practicing + Wife = Atheism = INCOMPATIBLE (Islamically) IT JUST WONT WORK. Also to note, remember what you'd be putting your parents through aswell. I guess, it all comes down to whether you consider it to be right or wrong. Only way you guna know that is if you accept Islam as tha way of your life.
=/ & If she doesnt, you'll get married regardless?
Yes, i know the effects it will have on parents if I do marry her, I've seen what happens to other brothers who marry somone who's not muslim, in terms of community etc its all bad, but then I've seen many who've continued practising Islam and had a Christian wife for instance, it makes think if it works for them it could work for me.

format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x

With all due respect, I've kinda given my views. I'll leave it to tha rest of tha brothers and sisters to help you find the path of truth. I hope you do proper. Good Luck. I hope Allah guides us all infact and helps us remain steadfast in tha deen. Ameen P.S Recide Surah Fatihah =) :sl: Wr Wb
format_quote Originally Posted by x Muslimah x
I know someone whus going fru this phase also, and I jsut wanted to kinda get an insight into your thinking =)
mhmm thanx , hope you got a better understanding and insight from me about that someone who's going thru this. N i'll post after i discussed da issues u raised wiv her next week, but tc sis.
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AlbanianMuslim
01-20-2010, 01:48 AM
You need to get rid of the SIN in your life. Go to a mosque, get into contact with someone who is either a revert or a muslim who didnt adhere to Islam till later in life. The mosque will and should be able to put you into contact with someone who can help you sift through your reservations.

Im going to be blunt here because frankly Im getting tired of giving "fluffy" advice in the hopes that it wont hurt the person im giving it to but thats not working.


Your girlfriend is and will be your undoing if she continues to be a part of your life.
Physical sin is linked to your relationship with her. You have to find a way to get out of that relationship.


Until you do that, there will be no point in you praying or going to mosque or trying to find the right path if you live in sin.
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S<Chowdhury
01-20-2010, 01:54 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AlbanianMuslim
You need to get rid of the SIN in your life. Go to a mosque, get into contact with someone who is either a revert or a muslim who didnt adhere to Islam till later in life. The mosque will and should be able to put you into contact with someone who can help you sift through your reservations.

Im going to be blunt here because frankly Im getting tired of giving "fluffy" advice in the hopes that it wont hurt the person im giving it to but thats not working.


Your girlfriend is and will be your undoing if she continues to be a part of your life.
Physical sin is linked to your relationship with her. You have to find a way to get out of that relationship.


Until you do that, there will be no point in you praying or going to mosque or trying to find the right path if you live in sin.

Don't worry i don't mind your bluntness rather admire it, and you didn't hurt my feelings.
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S<Chowdhury
01-22-2010, 07:07 PM
Thanx to all the brothers and sisters who have helped, its been a week since i posted this up and alot has changed for the better i hope. At first i was a bit sceptical about all this :hmm:, but i came here with an open mind....and the past day or so, i began to enjoy learning about Islam and rather enthusiastic about it :), actually understanding what was being said to me :).

Today after friday prayer, i plucked up the courage to actually approach my Imam and ask for some guidance, he was more than helpful :statisfie and i did meet some Muslim converts after prayer and helped with my issues.

I am not saying everything is solved far from it, I'm still in two-minds about my relationship with my gf, though i tried to limit contact with her. And i still need to build more knowledge about Islam, but i think i found the right path.

Guess i wanna say BIG thank you to everyone who replied and I'm glad i joined IB, trust me there were alot of choices of Islamic forums when i searched it in google LMAO.
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sevgi
01-25-2010, 12:44 PM
I had written you a long long post and you responded with some question I cannot recall at present. I just wanted to appologise for not getting back to you.

Please feel free to ask again, if you remember, or contact me whenever. Perhaps we could help eachother out with some of our issues.

When I was really young, I'd ask my mum "does Allah love me?". She'd say "well, that depends...do you love him?" I'd say "yes, lots!" and she'd say "well he loves you lots too then."

I guess what Im trying to say is sometimes we do things that Allah frowns upon...but we still love him on the inside. And technically, its easy to say "well if you loved him you wouldnt do it"...but sometimes our faith and our islam on a practical level are not consistent with eachother.

Youve taken a step towards him...know that he is always one step ahead of you. That is, you took that step coz he wanted you to and youre winning this battle this time inshallah. Keep it up. I for one am happy for and proud of you.
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