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I dont' believe that Prophet pbuh visits them who recite darud .
I said , there is no verse or hadith that say we can't fast on 12 Rabiual Awal. if there is any bar against it , then pl. show .
Dear sister, May Allah bless you n reward u, im glad u came to this thread and i ask Allah to guide me n u and all the muslims to what is authentic n true n haqq n to save us from the batil , the false.
Sister the above way of istidlaal/reasoning is pretty strange , u say that we should fast on the 12th rabi al awwal coz there is notthing suggesting that we should NOT fast it, there is no bar against it , well InshahAllah i will show u why we should not fast it and also show u how ur reasoning is very wrong n strange.
Now lets see , in Islam do we do certain things because there is notthing to suggest that we should NOT do it or do we do them because the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam prescribed n legislatd n ordered us to do it.
We all believe n know that the deen was completed 1400 years ago and the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam delivered the message completely n with cmplete honestly n held notthing back
Like in the Beautiful ayaat .. ‘This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed my
Favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.’ [Soorah al-
Maidah (5):3]
n ahadeeth like ....
Allah's Messenger (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) said, 'There is nothing that will
take you closer to Paradise but that I have enjoined it upon you, and there is
nothing that will take you closer to Hell but that I have warned you from it.'
[Musnad ash-Shafa'ee]
So lets look at some random days which the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam prescribed hs ummah to fast
1- the day of Arafah
Do we fast it sister because notthing proves we should NOT fast it or coz there is no bar against it OR do we fast it because the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam 1)prescribed it fasting, 2) told us its reward 3) did it himself n his sahaba, 4) showed us to do it n taught us 5) legislated it???
we fast that day coz the prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam told us to n told us its reward n legislated/prescribed it , as we have from many ahadeeth.
And lets look at the fast of Aashoorah .
do we fast it coz there is notthing to suggest WE SHOULDNT fast it n NO BAR against it OR do we fast it coz because the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam 1)prescribed it fasting, 2) told us its reward 3) did it himself n his sahaba, 4) showed us to do it n taught us 5) legislated it???
we fast that day coz the prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam tod dus to n told us its reward n legislated/prescribed it , as we have from many ahadeeth
this was just an example sister and i can go on and on and on .... sister please , when a day is singled out out of the year or month for ANY sort of Worship it has to have evidence from teh sunnah , n there is n evidence of mawlid n whatever people do in them even after 600 years of the passing away of the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam.
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In Bangladesh , most Muslims are Sunni ( and Not Sufis ) and we do celebrate Eid - e-Miladunnabi or Sirat un nabi.
People fast , recite Quran , give charity , arrange dua mahfil , some sing Hamd and Naat , discuss about the life of the Prophet pbuh and offer extra salat / nafal prayer .
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Dear sister , everyone claims to be sunni , but only a deep research in the creed aqeedah n manhaj shows who is sunni, n well trust me no sufi is ever willing to admit he is sufi, but lets leave it alone n focus on meelad un nabi issue.
Firsr of all it was never a part of islaam , the best generations n those who loved n knew the Prphet n religion n quran n sunnah more than us never celebrated it so how could we?
U said sister may Allah reward u that people
1) Fast
i have already above refutted that the day cannot be singled out for fasting n please dont say that the prophet sala lahu alihi wa salam fasted his birthday coz that refers to monday and theer is no evidence he fasted on the 12th to mark his birthday , rather the day itself which was a monday , so u cannt use this evidence to support smething else , many innovators do this , they bring the evidence for eample beating the duff and then conclue all instrument are legale , n play them on graves n festivals on graves n on mawlids n men wear silk n dance n every little thing that the Prphet sala lahu alihi wa sallam forbade , they legalize it by twisting and turning the evidence ,,, what a grave sin , may Allah have us.
n well let me go back to the beginning of ur post sister where u suggested another name of the mawlid to make it more acceptable u said
"celebrate Eid - e-Miladunnabi or Sirat un nabi."
coz if we say we are celebrating the seerah of nabi then people cannot oppose
I say
FIRST
You are NOT celebrating the seerah of nabi , in fact u are doing something that is not found ANYWHEER in the seerah of nabi, subhaALLAH! So is this how the seerah celebrated , by doing something the prophet never did? great!
SECOND
The seerah of nabi sala lahu alihi wa sallam is not to be celebrated by the things that he FORBADE
Like music
silk for men
mixing of men n women
STANDING UP TO HONOR THE PROPHET WHILE RECITING NAAT ( He didnt allow it(standing up for him in respect or honor) in his life n u guys do it now after he passed away?)
n doing other bidhas that have no evidence from sunnah like mahfil of zikr , mahfl of darood n remmberance n naat n hamd in mosques....
How do u celebrate something with something forbidden
n well
Seerah is celebrated by the REAL sunni muslim each n ever second
He makes his face , his dress , his ikhlaaq n manners , his sight n gaze , his actions n limbs according to the guidance of the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam. He lives each and ever moment n each n every hour n day n week n month n all his life in accordance to the sunnah , trying to implement it n adheer to it n hold on to it. So by protecting his gaze he is celebrating seerah , by avoiding music he is celebrating sunnah , by his dress n his apperance , by his day to day manners n dealing n on and on and on
NOT JUST ON A PARTICULAR DAY OR EVENING !!
N NO ITS NOT A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THE YOUTH N TEACH THE YOUTH ABOUT THE LIFE OF THE PROPHET , each n everyday this should be done , Just coz we cannot raise kids n we dont even know religion ourselfes we cannot teach it to our kids either we come up with these little excuses n events to cover up for something that is so vital n important , the education of sunnah n seerah , we just do it on this day n think our responsibility is over???
back to the post sister u said People fast , recite Quran , give charity , arrange dua mahfil , some sing Hamd and Naat , discuss about the life of the Prophet pbuh and offer extra salat / nafal prayer
so sister people recite quran on that day n leave ot almost the rest f the year untill ramadan comes in or night of qadr of 15th shaabaan ( which is also bidah) ?? sister cant u see what it is doing?? look at the big picture... we are seting standards n examples for those who will come after us , when we single out these days fr worship people take these days fr worship n neglect the rest of the year n still think they are doing a great job,
This is the problem with innovatiing thinsg in the religion , it has effects n with time it reallly does turn into something else , n well most importantly no one guards it , what i mean is people open the door for lets say celebrating the mawlid , but no one stands guard on this door to regulate whats to be done n whats not to be done , no one watches over it n time n years pass by n it turns into something else , this is exactly why each n every door of innovatin should not only be closed it should be educated against n refuted
This is exactly why now we have soo many shirk n innovations n crazy things in the eid meelad un nabi , n this is exactky why its sooo hard for people to accept the fact that it is a bidah n its bad , coz it has become a part of their lifes n deen.
U said give charity , duaa mahfil , hamd naat , life of prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam , extra salat n nawafil ...
The pious precedors did not do any of that , were they not more knowledgable than us , n well soem of those are Haram n even sahaba disapproved it like duaa mahfil or zikr n remmberance mahfils .. how??
well here is a link , please please do check it
http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=46 sahabas attitude towards innovation ( congregational zikr) nice naration of the sahaba. u will be surprised to see the same things happen in our masajid!!
sister
"Whoever introduces into our matter (religion) that which is not a part of it, will have it (his innovation) rejected."
Related by Al-Bukhari & Muslim
sister all those will be rejected if they are singled out for a particular day , n well hamd n naat will be rejected cz it was not prescribed , never!
sister , please please i will suggest u again to go back to the first page of this thread n read the dialogue between al albani Rahimahullah and the one who approves of mawlid , it is very nice n detailed n full of benefits like ayaat n ahadeeth , and sister may Allah guide us n u to the truth ... cant u see how hard it is to leave the bidah ? coz the shaytaan keeps peoples hearts attached to it , coz the innovator is never blessed with repentence , coz he dosent think he is doing something wrong , he thinks teh opposite.
Any way , this thread already has enough evidence for those who want the truth , and may Allah open our hearts to the Sunnah , the beautiful way of the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam n his sahaba ..
Sister one last thing
the deen is not our opinins , its nt up to our brains n intellect , rather its quran n sunnah n narations , its what is proved , Opinions do not mean anything when it comes to deen , always always traceback the ladders of hadeeth n quran to see if something is right or worng or even from the deen.
Allah sent the deen till the day of qiyamah , Allah knew there would be a 2010 n 2009 , He did not Allow us to come up with new ways n new philosiphies , to teach the deen , or to practise the deen , rather it is follwoing what was deen at the time of the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam , n what was not has no place today.
n i warn my self n everyone else to always try to be from the saved sect
WHO ARE THE SAVED SECT?
well apparently everyone is claiming to be , doesnt it get confusing?? no ! coz the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam left us on a clear white plain
As the Prophet Sallallahu 'Alayhi wa sallam said, "I have left you on a clear white plain, whose day is like its night. Anyone who deviates from it is destroyed."
n he told us clearly who the saved sect out of the 73 will be
He sal-Allaahu 'alayhe wa sallam also said:
"Indeed, the people of the Book before you split-up into seventy-two sects. And this nation will split-up into seventy-three sects, seventy two are in the Fire and one is in Paradise. It was asked: Who is that one? He replied:
"That which I and my Companions are upon
Dear sister , were they upon eid millad un nabi , n fasting n charity n mafhil duaa n mahfil zikr n hamd n naat n all that u mentioned?? if nt then be careful , u dont wana be from the 72 sects sister, while abandoning mawlid clearly saves u from that n drives u to what the prophet n sahaba were upon.
sister
The Prophet sal-Allaahu 'alayhe wa sallam said:
"I advise you to have taqwaa of Allaah and to hear and to obey, even if an Abyssinian slave becomes your leader. Those of you who live long after me will see a lot of differences, so hold fast to my Sunnah and to the Sunnah of the Rightly-Guided Khaleefahs after me. Cling to it tightly and beware of newly-invented matters, for every newly invented matter is an innovation, and every innovation is misguidance, and all misguidance is in the Fire."
sister
Ibn Mas'ood - radi-Allaahu 'anhu - said:
Allaah's Messenger sal-Allaahu 'alayhe wa sallam drew a line for us and then said: "This is Allaah's Path." Then he drew lines to its right and its left, and said: "These are differing paths, upon each of them there is a shaytaan (devil) calling to it." Then he recited: "And verily this is My Path, so follow it, and do not follow other paths for they will separate you away from His Path." [Soorah al-An'aam (6):153] [4]
be careful of these other paths , n follow what the companions were upon
n be careful of the groups that call to these newly invented things
This is deen
this is upon which our hereafte depends
this is serious
I have said what i have said , if right then from Allah n by the grace of Allah , if wrong then from my self n shaytaan , n i seek Allah's forgiveness , Indeed He is the Most forgiving n He knows best
Assalam O Alikum