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Candle
05-31-2010, 10:38 AM
Hi everyone,

I'm a Canadian university student interested in Islam. I was a very devout Catholic, but my History class on Islamic civ exposed me to Muslim culture, which I found fascinating! I spent much of my semester studying with a group of young Muslim men and women my age, but we ended up discussing theology the whole time haha.

School's finished for summer. I've taken this time to really read the Bible. I was horrified when I read Mark 10:18, where Jesus (PBUH) denied his divinity. It felt like my whole faith had been ripped from me! The more I studied, the more I understood Jesus (PBUH) as a prophet.

So now I'm here, hoping to find answers! I just finished reading Michael Cook's A Very Short Introduction to the Koran; I am currently reading Marshall G. S. Hodgson's The Venture of Islam, and Tarif Khalidi's English translation of The Qur'an.

Pardon my long winded introduction. = )
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Misz_Muslimah
05-31-2010, 11:16 AM
Welcome to the forum Candle!
Hope you have a beneficial stay :)
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Candle
05-31-2010, 12:01 PM
Thanks Miss Muslimah!
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glo
05-31-2010, 12:02 PM
Welcome to the forum, Candle. I hope you enjoy your stay and your summer. :welcome:
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Candle
05-31-2010, 12:46 PM
Thanks Glo, I was trying to put up a candle avatar, but it looks like someone beat me to the punch. : P
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Asiyah3
05-31-2010, 01:12 PM
Warm welcomes Candle, it's great to have you here. :) Praise be to Allah for guiding you to the right direction. I hope you'll benefit from the forum insha'llah. And please feel free to ask anything.

May Allah guide you closer to Him.
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glo
05-31-2010, 03:08 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Candle
Thanks Glo, I was trying to put up a candle avatar, but it looks like someone beat me to the punch. : P
:D

The more, the merrier, Candle. Don't let me stop you!
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Candle
05-31-2010, 07:35 PM
Warm welcomes Candle, it's great to have you here. Praise be to Allah for guiding you to the right direction. I hope you'll benefit from the forum insha'llah. And please feel free to ask anything.

May Allah guide you closer to Him.
Thanks Muslimah! Sorry, but what does Insha'llah mean?


The more, the merrier, Candle. Don't let me stop you!

If I can ever figure out this forum business, lol.
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Misz_Muslimah
05-31-2010, 07:38 PM
^ 'God Willing' or 'If God Wills'
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جوري
05-31-2010, 07:53 PM
:welcome: aboard candle and enjoy your stay with us.. you'll be able to attach the candle of your choice once you become a full member.. it happens once you reach 50 posts.. (it is an initiation rite sort of thing) just kidding, well not about the fifty post thing.. we have had several hits on this site with pornography and other offensive material that the fifty landmark ensures the seriousness of the member as opposed to the usual random trolls we get..

with that said, we are happy you have joined us and wish you the best on your quest for knowledge..

peace
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Candle
05-31-2010, 08:08 PM
^ 'God Willing' or 'If God Wills'
Ah, this makes sense.

aboard candle and enjoy your stay with us.. you'll be able to attach the candle of your choice once you become a full member.. it happens once you reach 50 posts.. (it is an initiation rite sort of thing) just kidding, well not about the fifty post thing.. we have had several hits on this site with pornography and other offensive material that the fifty landmark ensures the seriousness of the member as opposed to the usual random trolls we get..

with that said, we are happy you have joined us and wish you the best on your quest for knowledge..

peace
Thanks Lilly--heh, I'm definitely not a troll : p
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Sawdah
05-31-2010, 08:43 PM
Welcome Candle! I hope you enjoy yourself and benefit from this forum.:)
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Candle
06-01-2010, 04:07 AM
Thanks Seeker!
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shuraimfan4lyf
06-01-2010, 04:11 AM
Welcome aboard!
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Woodrow
06-01-2010, 04:24 AM
Welcome to the Forum Candle. I am almost Canadian. Live in North Dakota, USA Only difference is I think Canaada has warmer winters than we have.

Enjoy your stay here. Learn what you can and teach what you can share.
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Candle
06-01-2010, 04:35 AM
Welcome aboard!
Thank you Shura!

Welcome to the Forum Candle. I am almost Canadian. Live in North Dakota, USA Only difference is I think Canaada has warmer winters than we have.

Enjoy your stay here. Learn what you can and teach what you can share.
Well what are you waiting for?! Canada's doors are wide open and we've got lots of room. :D I'm in Vancouver, so we're lucky if we get snow at all during winter. Thank you for the welcome.
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Muslim Woman
06-01-2010, 04:57 AM
Salaam/Peace to u Candle,

Thanks for ur interesting about Islam . Feel free to ask any questions u have about Islam and Muslims. Did u read holy Quran ?

Hope to see u around .
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Ramadhan
06-01-2010, 05:26 AM
Welcome aboard, candle!

enjoy your stay here and may Allah SWT guides you to the right path.
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Candle
06-01-2010, 08:19 PM
Salaam/Peace to u Candle,

Thanks for ur interesting about Islam . Feel free to ask any questions u have about Islam and Muslims. Did u read holy Quran ?

Hope to see u around .
Peace to you too MuslimWoman and thank you. I'm reading an English, translated copy of the Qur'an right now and a translated Tafseer (I think it's called). But I understand that some of the beauty is lost in the translation.

Welcome aboard, candle!

enjoy your stay here and may Allah SWT guides you to the right path.
Thank you Naidamar, I pray too that I may be guided to the right path. : )
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Mohamed_Sadiq
06-01-2010, 11:10 PM
Ahlan wa sahlan
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Predator
06-01-2010, 11:16 PM
Welcome to the forum Candle!
Hope you have a beneficial stay
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Candle
06-02-2010, 12:13 AM
Ahlan wa sahlan
I looked this up, thank you.

Welcome to the forum Candle!
Hope you have a beneficial stay
Thanks Airforce!
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Mohamed_Sadiq
06-02-2010, 12:19 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Candle
I looked this up, thank you.


Thanks Airforce!
It must had been a mission, lol
ur welcome.
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Candle
06-03-2010, 07:34 AM
Does anyone know how long it will take for my posted threads to show up? I posted two threads on the Qur'an quite a time ago now. Thanks
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Al-manar
06-03-2010, 08:00 AM
welcome Candle... I hope you have a beneficial stay with us...and any question is welcome
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Ramadhan
06-03-2010, 09:20 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Candle
Does anyone know how long it will take for my posted threads to show up? I posted two threads on the Qur'an quite a time ago now. Thanks
Fastest is around 24 hours, but it seems it is a busy time for the moderators.
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Candle
06-03-2010, 03:13 PM
welcome Candle... I hope you have a beneficial stay with us...and any question is welcome
Thank you Al-Manar!

Fastest is around 24 hours, but it seems it is a busy time for the moderators.
Ah, thank you. I know how busy forums can get.
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CosmicPathos
06-03-2010, 03:45 PM
hey fellow Canadian,

welcome. Would like to mention what university you took the course on Islam at? McGill?
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aadil77
06-03-2010, 04:09 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Candle
Peace to you too MuslimWoman and thank you. I'm reading an English, translated copy of the Qur'an right now and a translated Tafseer (I think it's called). But I understand that some of the beauty is lost in the translation.



Thank you Naidamar, I pray too that I may be guided to the right path. : )

Welcome to the board :) hope you find your answers here, feel free to question away

one word of advice you said you're reading 'Tarif Khalidi's' translation of quran, I've never heard of it but usually we recommend people read the more well known translations such as by marmaduke pickthall, yusuf ali and muhsin khan

you can read them here at www.Quran.com

peace
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Candle
06-03-2010, 09:19 PM
hey fellow Canadian,

welcome. Would like to mention what university you took the course on Islam at? McGill?
Hey
No, I'm considering taking my graduate degree there, but I'm attending SFU right now. The course was under Dr. Darryl Maclean. I think he worked at McGill back when they established their Islamic studies.

Welcome to the board hope you find your answers here, feel free to question away

one word of advice you said you're reading 'Tarif Khalidi's' translation of quran, I've never heard of it but usually we recommend people read the more well known translations such as by marmaduke pickthall, yusuf ali and muhsin khan

you can read them here at www.Quran.com

peace
Thank you Aadil! I don't mind Pickthall's translation. In fact, it reminds me of the old English I'm used to as a history major. I was very cautious of Yusuf Ali because I read that the latest revision of his commentary on the Qur'an purposely downplayed the roles of Hassan and Husayn. I took Khalidi's translation simply because the bookstore I went to had a very limited selection, and I know it's received some praise. But I have ordered a free translation of the Qur'an from http://www.freequran.ca/, and I'm sure they'll be sending one of the more standard copies you recommended (probably Yusuf Ali's).
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S<Chowdhury
06-03-2010, 09:28 PM
Salaam candle, hope you find the forum beneficial :)............your a fellow American wooops i mean Canadian i can never tell the difference LOL kll :) my wife from canada what part are you from?
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Candle
06-03-2010, 09:41 PM
Hello, thank you.

Canada is a sovereign nation of British and French peoples. We fought a war against America to maintain our freedom. We accept all cultures and peoples and have always provided free healthcare for them. Canadians place great emphasis on manners and social propriety. We've invented everything from radios to televisions to telephones, medical vaccines and even the zipper. We are not American.
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S<Chowdhury
06-03-2010, 09:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Candle
Hello, thank you.

Canada is a sovereign nation of British and French peoples. We fought a war against America to maintain our freedom. We accept all cultures and peoples and have always provided free healthcare for them. Canadians place great emphasis on manners and social propriety. We've invented everything from radios to televisions to telephones, medical vaccines and even the zipper. We are not American.
Ok :) kll ahhh thanx for the differences.....but i was only joking LOL about Canadian n American haha but you do sound the same :P
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S<Chowdhury
06-04-2010, 05:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Candle
Hello, thank you.

Canada is a sovereign nation of British and French peoples. We fought a war against America to maintain our freedom. We accept all cultures and peoples and have always provided free healthcare for them. Canadians place great emphasis on manners and social propriety. We've invented everything from radios to televisions to telephones, medical vaccines and even the zipper. We are not American.
Wait a second Tv wasnt that invented by an Philo Taylor Farnsworth (American), the Radio was by Guglielmo Marconi (Italian) , the Medical Vaccine was by Edward Jenner (British) and the Zipper by Whitcomb L. Judson (American).
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Candle
06-04-2010, 05:51 PM
Nup. Reginald Fessenden had over 100 patents on the television in north America by 1919, building on the works of Perskyi, Lee de Forest and Campbell Swinton. Farnsworth just made it accessible to the American populace (like Ford).

You're thinking of simple, telegraph radio (beep beep, beep messages). It was recently discovered Marconi actually stole Nikola tesla's ideas.

The process of vaccination was actually first used in ancient China and Iran. Jenner was the first person to extract and "inject" infected pus in a person. Canada universalized the vaccine. My bad. : )

Judson came up with the idea of a zipper. Gideon Sundback (Canadian) realized his idea would never work the way it was and designed the zipper you and I know today.

I'm a history major.. I know these things. :D
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S<Chowdhury
06-04-2010, 06:07 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by candle
nup. Reginald fessenden had over 100 patents on the television in north america by 1919, building on the works of perskyi, lee de forest and campbell swinton. Farnsworth just made it accessible to the american populace (like ford).

You're thinking of simple, telegraph radio (beep beep, beep messages). It was recently discovered marconi actually stole nikola tesla's ideas.

The process of vaccination was actually first used in ancient china and iran. Jenner was the first person to extract and "inject" infected pus in a person. Canada universalized the vaccine. My bad. : )

judson came up with the idea of a zipper. Gideon sundback (canadian) realized his idea would never work the way it was and designed the zipper you and i know today.

I'm a history major.. I know these things. :d
lol ok ok u got meee haha ughhh **** wikipedia **** it lool
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UmmSqueakster
06-04-2010, 06:12 PM
Welcome to the forum! I almost was a history major, but I went to a school where a distant relative of mine was a famous historian, so there was too much pressure to succeed +o( I did political science and religious studies instead, which I'd venture to guess is equally as useless as a history major outside of college ;D

I'll do my obligatory reference to my helpful links for newbies - http://umms.wordpress.com/converts/ - I actually drew it up with converts in mind, but it does have a lot of good resources for those interested in learning more about islam as well :)

re: quran translation, I have a ton that I love. It's actually my goal to collect every english translation ever done. For simple ease of reading, I like the Bewley translation. For quran + commentary, I like Ali Unal and Muhammad Asad.
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CosmicPathos
06-04-2010, 06:36 PM
Not to mention that insulin was discovered in Canada
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Candle
06-04-2010, 07:26 PM
lol ok ok u got meee haha ughhh **** wikipedia **** it lool
*dislike wikipedia* It's okay for some stuff though. :P

Welcome to the forum! I almost was a history major, but I went to a school where a distant relative of mine was a famous historian, so there was too much pressure to succeed I did political science and religious studies instead, which I'd venture to guess is equally as useless as a history major outside of college

I'll do my obligatory reference to my helpful links for newbies -http://umms.wordpress.com/converts/ - I actually drew it up with converts in mind, but it does have a lot of good resources for those interested in learning more about islam as well

re: quran translation, I have a ton that I love. It's actually my goal to collect every english translation ever done. For simple ease of reading, I like the Bewley translation. For quran + commentary, I like Ali Unal and Muhammad Asad.
Hey, thank you! That would be a bit intimidating! The way I see it, with a history/poli-sci degree you can be a professor, librarian or diplomat. But it's still tons of fun to study. :shade:

Thanks for the recommendations--I've been wondering where to find an English translation with commentary. Right now I'm going back and forth between Qur'an and laptop, and it's a big hassle. I'm going to bookmark that site btw. It looks full of good stuff.

Not to mention that insulin was discovered in Canada
#1 most important life saving discovery in the history of mankind!
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Woodrow
06-04-2010, 08:48 PM
Do you get much chance to get up into NWT and YT? Those are my favorite Provinces.
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yahia12
06-04-2010, 09:23 PM
welcome
i see you use french word, are you quebecian?

bienvenue
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Candle
06-04-2010, 09:25 PM
Do you get much chance to get up into NWT and YT? Those are my favorite Provinces.
No sir, I love my rain forest too much. I will be taking a trip to the yukon after I finish my schooling though. :happy:
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Candle
06-04-2010, 09:26 PM
welcome
i see you use french word, are you quebecian?

bienvenue
Hey thanks, no I'm about as far from Quebec as you can get lol. Which French word??
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yahia12
06-04-2010, 09:32 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Candle
Hey thanks, no I'm about as far from Quebec as you can get lol. Which French word??
you used pardon= excuse/.. i thought you where speaking french jaime le quebec. i dont speak french fluently however but i will inshAllah learn someday. :)
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Woodrow
06-04-2010, 09:33 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Candle
No sir, I love my rain forest too much. I will be taking a trip to the yukon after I finish my schooling though. :happy:
Yes, the rainforest is a beautiful area. You all have some very unique critters living there such as banana slugs and giant salamanders. Hard to believe an almost tropical forest like condition occurs so far north.
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Candle
06-04-2010, 10:15 PM
you used pardon= excuse/.. i thought you where speaking french jaime le quebec. i dont speak french fluently however but i will inshAllah learn someday.
oo haha, yes. We're still old fashioned and use the British pardon rather than excuse me.

Yes, the rainforest is a beautiful area. You all have some very unique critters living there such as banana slugs and giant salamanders. Hard to believe an almost tropical forest like condition occurs so far north.
Heh, giant salamanders are cute, banana slugs not so much. A protective crown of mountains holds back the cold wind and frost from the rest of the country and traps the warm systems. It results in some very weird weather conditions!
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Woodrow
06-05-2010, 03:51 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Candle
oo haha, yes. We're still old fashioned and use the British pardon rather than excuse me.


Heh, giant salamanders are cute, banana slugs not so much. A protective crown of mountains holds back the cold wind and frost from the rest of the country and traps the warm systems. It results in some very weird weather conditions!
Be nice to banana slugs. A few people love them:

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Candle
06-05-2010, 08:42 AM
LOL! Possibly the weirdest fanclub ever.
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