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Al-Indunisiy
06-09-2010, 11:44 AM
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May I know of any archaeological relics from before the 4th century?
I've read of some claims that there are no records of Mecca by surrounding civilizations (Roman, Greek, Mesopotamian, Ancient Arab Kingdoms/Cities) prior to the 4th century other than Ptolemy's mention of "Makoraba'.
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Supreme
06-11-2010, 02:11 PM
The mention of a place called 'Baca' in Psalm 84 is likely to be Mecca, or somewhere in that region. This shows that the ancient Jews may have known of the existence of Mecca, which isn't really all that surprising, when you think about it.
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marwen
06-11-2010, 02:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Supreme
The mention of a place called 'Baca' in Psalm 84 is likely to be Mecca, or somewhere in that region. This shows that the ancient Jews may have known of the existence of Mecca, which isn't really all that surprising, when you think about it.
that seems to be interesting ! can you report the text where it mentioned 'Baca' in Psalm if you have the reference, and in what context ?
Even in arabic, Mecca (Maka) can also be called 'Bacca'. May be it's from hebrew, or other languages close to arabic.
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Supreme
06-11-2010, 02:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by marwen
that seems to be interesting ! can you report the text where it mentioned 'Baca' in Psalm if you have the reference, and in what context ?
Even in arabic, Mecca (Maka) can also be called 'Bacca'. May be it's from hebrew, or other languages close to arabic.
Sure:
1 How lovely is your dwelling place,
O LORD Almighty!

2 My soul yearns, even faints,
for the courts of the LORD;
my heart and my flesh cry out
for the living God.

3 Even the sparrow has found a home,
and the swallow a nest for herself,
where she may have her young—
a place near your altar,
O LORD Almighty, my King and my God.

4 Blessed are those who dwell in your house;
they are ever praising you.
Selah

5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you,
who have set their hearts on pilgrimage.

6 As they pass through the Valley of Baca,
they make it a place of springs;
the autumn rains also cover it with pools. [b]

7 They go from strength to strength,
till each appears before God in Zion.

8 Hear my prayer, O LORD God Almighty;
listen to me, O God of Jacob.
Selah

9 Look upon our shield, [c] O God;
look with favor on your anointed one.

10 Better is one day in your courts
than a thousand elsewhere;
I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God
than dwell in the tents of the wicked.

11 For the LORD God is a sun and shield;
the LORD bestows favor and honor;
no good thing does he withhold
from those whose walk is blameless.

12 O LORD Almighty,
blessed is the man who trusts in you.
There it is.
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marwen
06-11-2010, 02:41 PM
Thanks Bro Supreme !

4 Blessed are those who dwell in your house;
they are ever praising you.
Selah

5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you,
who have set their hearts on pilgrimage.

6 As they pass through the Valley of Baca,
they make it a place of springs;
the autumn rains also cover it with pools.
Indeed, I think ancient jews knew about Mecca, It's the place of prophet Abraham (as). That shows also the connection between all these abrahamic religions, and all the prophets (as).
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