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Abdul-Raouf
06-14-2010, 12:29 PM
CIA report: Israel will fall in 20 years

March 13, 2009

A study conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has cast doubt over Israel’s survival beyond the next 20 years.

The CIA report predicts “an inexorable movement away from a two-state to a one-state solution, as the most viable model based on democratic principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of colonial Apartheid while allowing for the return of the 1947/1948 and 1967 refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in the region.”
The study, which has been made available only to a certain number of individuals, further forecasts the return of all Palestinian refugees to the occupied territories, and the exodus of two million Israeli - who would move to the US in the next fifteen years.

“There is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports and more than 300,000 living in the area of just California,” International lawyer Franklin Lamb said in an interview with Press TV on Friday, adding that those who do not have American or western passport, have already applied for them.

“So I think the handwriting at least among the public in Israel is on the wall…[which] suggests history will reject the colonial enterprise sooner or later,” Lamb stressed.

He said CIA, in its report, alludes to the unexpectedly quick fall of the apartheid government in South Africa and recalls the disintegration of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, suggesting the end to the dream of an ‘Israeli land’ would happen ‘way sooner’ than later.

The study further predicts the return of over one and a half million Israelis to Russia and other parts of Europe, and denotes a decline in Israeli births whereas a rise in the Palestinian population.

Lamb said given the Israeli conduct toward the Palestinians and the Gaza strip in particular, the American public -- which has been voicing its protest against Tel Aviv's measures in the last 25 years -- may 'not take it anymore'.

Some members of the US Senate Intelligence Committee have been informed of the report.


Source : http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020202
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Abdul-Raouf
06-14-2010, 05:12 PM
Any more info about this?
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Woodrow
06-14-2010, 05:37 PM
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I have not heard this before. But it seems probable. The American public is getting very tired of paying the food bill for that puppy and the puppy does not seem to be growing up to be an obedient dog. Add to that nearly half of the world's Jews do not want to live there and many have expressed their voice that the State of Israel should never have been made.
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Supreme
06-14-2010, 05:46 PM
Let's not be too pessimistic. I reckon in under 15 years, Israel will be relegated to a chapter in history. Similar states have lasted for a far shorter amount of time, and let's face it, Israel has only been in existence thanks to Western support, which is fast evaporating. I doubt it'll go without a fight, though.
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Amadeus85
06-14-2010, 08:52 PM
If Israel doesnt exist, the millions of jews are willing to come back to Poland:(. In XVIII and XIX century their plan was to create a territorial authonomy in my country.
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Ramadhan
06-15-2010, 04:47 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Amadeus85
If Israel doesnt exist, the millions of jews are willing to come back to Poland:(. In XVIII and XIX century their plan was to create a territorial authonomy in my country.
What??

I thought you christians LOVE to have jews as your fellow citizens and neighbors? NO?
Or is that the reason why you keep supporting Israel, to export all the jews to the middle east, till you have none in your own countries?
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'Abd Al-Maajid
06-15-2010, 05:46 AM
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Israel will not fall until it has gained power over the world, like US has now. It will come to power when the Dajjal has completed it's second day [which is like a month] and enter in the third day [which will be like a week].

The Prophet said, "The time of the Dajjal will be forty years; one year like half a year, one year like a month, and one month like a week. The rest of his days will pass so quickly that if one of you were at one of the gates of Madina, he would not reach the other gate before evening fell." [Muslim]

The first day, the world being rule by Britain, nearly 1000 years. The second day, the world being rules by the US, may be 80-85 years [since 1000/12=83.33]. And after that Israel will come into power and rule for about 21-22 years [since 85/4=22]. And then The Dajjal will come into our dimension when he'll spend the rest 37 days like normal days. And after that the downfall of Israel and rise of Khilafah will follow.

Allah Knows Best.
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Amadeus85
06-15-2010, 11:47 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar
What??

I thought you christians LOVE to have jews as your fellow citizens and neighbors? NO?
Or is that the reason why you keep supporting Israel, to export all the jews to the middle east, till you have none in your own countries?

Christians? I dont know such people. There are catholics, orthodox, lutherans, methodists, baptists, evangelicals, pentecostals, anabaptists. Jews have played important role in creating some of those "christians" and now they achieve help from them (so called "christian" zionists).
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mediadave
06-21-2010, 09:14 PM
Israel could very well collapse in a couple of decades, for demographic reasons. Ignoring the Palestinian issue, about 20-25% of Israel's population are Arab, and this proportion is growing (though slowly) and they remain disenfranchised and for obvious reasons not particularly loyal to the state.

Probably more important though is the fast rise of the Haredi, or Ultra Orthodox Jewish community. They generally have little loyalty to the state - some regard Israel itself as an abomination, and the rest will certainly regard (their interpretation of) religious law as being above the state and democracy. And most of them don't work, or serve in the army, instead getting welfare payments for 'religious study'. If that continues, it will certainly bankrupt Israel. As it is, soon at least half the Israeli population will be non-Zionist and dismissive of the Government.

An article from Haaretz, an Israeli newspaper -

The answer to the question of where this country is headed is hidden in table 8.11 of Israel's annual Statistical Abstract, which shows "Projections of Students in Primary Education" for the coming five years. These are the figures: In the current school year, 47.5 percent of first-graders are either Arabs or Haredim (ultra-Orthodox). The growth rate of the Haredi school system is 39 times greater than that of the state secular schools, and that of the Arab school system is 13 times greater. These are not demographic forecasts, which can turn out to be false; these are children who have already been born and are awaiting their turn in the education system. This is reality.
It is hard to exaggerate the severity of the situation, or the complexity of the challenge. The Arabs want to work, but are finding it difficult to break the walls of isolation and discrimination erected by the Jewish majority. Among the Haredim, a social norm has taken root that prefers Torah study to work. Both communities are non-Zionist and are suspicious of and hostile toward the authorities.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...ation-1.263467
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