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Abdul Wahid
08-18-2010, 02:32 PM
:sl:

Just wanted to know how quickly the Tarweeh is recited at your local Masjid.

Is it nice, slow?
Or medium?
Or phasst?

My 2 local Masjids are medium and its a decent speed. But I don't go local cos I started a day later so I go to another Masjid just for Taraweeh. One brother reads nice and slow. Perfect. The other bro is extra fast. Too fast.:shade:

I prefer it slow. A bit like how it is read in Saudi. Medium speed ain't too bad cos you make out the recitation. However when it is read fast, it is like mumbling and I think its bad.

It's different in every Masjid but would you blame the imams or the local community who probably want it to be quick anyway so they are out of there.
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ardianto
08-18-2010, 03:59 PM
:sl:

Is there no option for between slow and medium ?. In my local masjid, the Imam recited like this. And according to the plan, he lead taraweeh in this masjid for first 10 nights.
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Vigno
08-18-2010, 04:12 PM
Asalamu Alekum

What's Taraweeh when it finishes fast? What is the place people want to go to or what do they want to do that is better than to stand infront of All Mighty Allah?
I say its the Imaam's fault, he should pray in a medium speed and stop thinking about what the people want, if they want to finish fast then they rather not come to the Masjid. What's the point in just coming and standing and thinking of the moment to leave? Really no point. My local Masjid recites at a nice medium speed and its so enjoyable and makes me think of the chance of him reciting all night, that ll be cool. Alhamdulilah that Allah gave us the chance to be muslims and to pray and do all he wants.
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ardianto
08-18-2010, 04:31 PM
An Indonesian scholar said
"I found some people recited taraweeh too fast. Even they finish 23 raka'at in less than 20 minutes !".
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Salahudeen
08-18-2010, 04:40 PM
I can't stand it when they recite fast as if they're just doing lip service, it bugs me, I like to hear the recitation mean something to the imam I don't wanna hear him just speed through it so he can go home and eat some samosa's.
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Abdul-Raouf
08-18-2010, 04:49 PM
In our masjid: 8.45pm Isha and Sharp 9pm Taraweeh starts and gets over before 10pm an some days before 9.50pm

Its kinda fast.But the words will be clear.
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Salahudeen
08-18-2010, 04:54 PM
Originally Posted by Abdul-Raouf
In our masjid: 8.45pm Isha and Sharp 9pm Taraweeh starts and gets over before 10pm an some days before 9.50pm

Its kinda fast.
???????????????????????????????????????????????? that quickly!!! In my masjid we start at 10:15 and finish at 12:15 he recites nice and slow you can feel the words penetrating your heart.
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ardianto
08-18-2010, 04:57 PM
Originally Posted by squiggle
???????????????????????????????????????????????? that quickly!!! In my masjid we start at 10:15 and finish at 12:15 he recites nice and slow you can feel the words penetrating your heart.
Two hours ?.
Only for taraweeh or including dhikr and khutbah ?.
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Muslim Woman
08-18-2010, 04:58 PM
Salaam Alaykum

got this newsletter from UK.

Tarawih Recitation: A message to all Imams


...The way many Imāms recite during the Tarāwīḥ prayer is inexcusable and should be condemned in the strongest of ways by the people of knowledge, and in fact, any individual who respects the words of God.

These Imāms recite the Qur’ān as if they are competing with the allocated time in order to finish the set amount and be rid of a heavy burden placed on their shoulders. In listening to some of them it is extremely difficult to make out what they are saying, whilst simultaneously, they make constant mistakes. There are reports of some mosques completing both twenty rak‘ah (units) of the Tarāwīḥ prayer and a whole juz’ of the Qur’ān in thirty minutes.

This is an i21C e-newsletter. For general enquiries: enquiries@islam21c.com
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Muslim Woman
08-18-2010, 05:00 PM
Salaam Alaykum

Originally Posted by squiggle
???????????????????????????????????????????????? that quickly!!! In my masjid we start at 10:15 and finish at 12:15 he recites nice and slow you can feel the words penetrating your heart.
why finish after midnight ? when Isa salat begins ?
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ardianto
08-18-2010, 05:10 PM
Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
Salaam Alaykum



why finish after midnight ? when Isa salat begins ?
Isa salat is performed before taraweeh.

Look when is Isa salat time begins in a place where brother Squiggle living.
http://centralmosque.org.uk/prayertimetable.aspx
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Ibn Abi Ahmed
08-18-2010, 05:11 PM
:sl:

Normal speed - not too fast and not too slow. I like it moderate - if you've listened to Sh. Salah Budair of Madinah, that speed is awesome.

How Taraweeh should NOT be done: :skeleton:

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Salahudeen
08-18-2010, 05:12 PM
Originally Posted by ardianto
Two hours ?.
Only for taraweeh or including dhikr and khutbah ?.
Only for taraweeh. We finish at about 12 then 10-15 mins for witr/dua. Isha is at 10:15
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Ibn Abi Ahmed
08-18-2010, 05:14 PM
Now this kid is setting an example on how Taraweeh SHOULD be done, masha'Allaah.

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ardianto
08-18-2010, 05:24 PM
Originally Posted by squiggle
Only for taraweeh. We finish at about 12 then 10-15 mins for witr/dua. Isha is at 10:15
That's means in your masjid taraweeh is recited slowly.

In my local masjid we spend around 1 hour and 40 minutes for Isha, salah sunnah, dhikr, khutbah, taraweeh including witr, and du'a. The 11 raka'at taraweeh and witr itself is performed only around 20-25 minutes.
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Ğħαrєєвαħ
08-18-2010, 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by Muraad
Now this kid is setting an example on how Taraweeh SHOULD be done, masha'Allaah.

MashaAllaah what a great Vid, Jazakallahu Khaayr for sharing!
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Vigno
08-18-2010, 06:49 PM
Originally Posted by Muraad
:sl:

Normal speed - not too fast and not too slow. I like it moderate - if you've listened to Sh. Salah Budair of Madinah, that speed is awesome.

How Taraweeh should NOT be done: :skeleton:

La ilaha ila Allah, they call this prayer?! How do they just accept praying like this, its such shame really. I rather pray at home alone than pray like this...
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Samiro
08-18-2010, 06:49 PM
Its pretty slow where I pray, I think its perfect!
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$tranger
08-18-2010, 10:49 PM
Originally Posted by Muraad
:sl:

Normal speed - not too fast and not too slow. I like it moderate - if you've listened to Sh. Salah Budair of Madinah, that speed is awesome.

How Taraweeh should NOT be done: :skeleton:

What the HELL!?

The dude must have taken something before 'leading' - seems HIGH, very high :-\
Allahu must'an
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Maybe not for us all - but something to take into account ....

Imāms should respect the Qur’ān when leading the Tarāwīḥ Prayer

All praises be to Allah and may the blessings and salutation be upon his messenger Muhammad.

The greatest favour bestowed upon humanity is the revelation of the Qur’ān as it is the only way human beings can be in continuous touch with their Creator. People can easily measure their level of attachment to their Lord by measuring their level of attachment to the Qur’ān - recitation, study and contemplation of it. This divine writ was not revealed to be a book of hymns for aural enjoyment, but instead as a book of guidance, for Allāh says in the Qur’ān, “(This is) a Book (the Qur’ān) which We have sent down to you, full of blessings that they may ponder over its verses, and that men of understanding may remember.”[1] As the Qur’ān is the unique and inimitable speech of Allāh, reciting it is a tremendous act of worship. However, its reward and comprehensive benefit can only be achieved once we put into practice what we understand. In fact, not putting enough attention to understanding the Qur’ān is condemned as Allāh the Most High says, “Do they not then think deeply about the Qur’ān, or are there locks upon their hearts (from understanding it?)”[2] Many early scholars also condemned those who read the Qur’ān without putting enough effort into understanding it, for example, it is narrated from Ibn Masʽūd that he said, “Do not scatter it (i.e., recitation of the Qur’ān) like the scattering of cheap dates, and do not ramble with it like the rambling of poetry. Stop at its marvels and stir your heart with it. None of you should let his concern be to reach the end of the chapter.”[3]

The way many Imāms recite during the Tarāwīḥ prayer is inexcusable and should be condemned in the strongest of ways by the people of knowledge, and in fact, any individual who respects the words of God. These Imāms recite the Qur’ān as if they are competing with the allocated time in order to finish the set amount and be rid of a heavy burden placed on their shoulders. In listening to some of them it is extremely difficult to make out what they are saying, whilst simultaneously, they make constant mistakes. There are reports of some mosques completing both twenty rak‘ah (units) of the Tarāwīḥ prayer and a whole juz’ of the Qur’ān in thirty minutes. This means that each rak‘ah takes ninety seconds in which one page of the Qur’ān is recited! What justification can such Imāms (and consequently the committees of such mosques) possibly give?

I would like to pose the following question to individuals who legitimize such conduct and deem it acceptable: Imagine that you are standing before God and that He is looking at you while you are praying, do you think Allāh is happy seeing and hearing His words read in this manner without giving them their due rights in terms of recitation and contemplation? Furthermore, I wonder if any of these Imāms or committee members are bold enough to allege that the Prophet would endorse this kind of prayer.

This kind of recitation is exactly what has been condemned by many of the scholars of the early generation. In fact, of one the characteristics of the Khawārij, a deviant sect, the Prophet informed us of is that their recitation of the Qur’ān will not go beyond their throats, i.e., they only pay lip-service to it; we should be very concerned not to have this trait within us. It was reported that Abῑ Jamrah, a scholar of the second generation, informed Ibn ʽAbbās that he recited very quickly and read the Qur’ān in three days, Ibn ʽAbbās replied by saying. ‘That I recite al-Baqarah in a night and reflect on it and reciting it slowly is more beloved to me than to recite in the manner you mention.’

Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allāh have mercy on him) summarised what the Muslim has to do in order to remedy the hardness of his heart with the Qur’ān. He said, ‘There is nothing more beneficial for the heart than reading the Qur’ān with contemplation and reflection. The Qur’ān encompasses all the levels of the travelers, the conditions of the workers, and stations of those possessing knowledge. It is the Qur’ān that generates love, desire, fear, hope, repentance, reliance, pleasure, entrustment, gratitude, patience and the rest of the different states that are life to the heart and perfection of it. Likewise, it repels all the rebuked characteristics and actions that cause the corruption and ruin of the heart. If people were to possess a realization of what the recitation of the Qur’ān with contemplation contains, they would devote themselves to it at the expense of everything else. When the person reads it with reflection and he comes across an āyah (verse) that he is in need of for curing his heart, he repeats it, even if he does so a hundred times or the whole night. Hence, to recite a single āyah of the Qur’ān with contemplation and reflection is better than reciting the Qur’ān to completion without any contemplation. It is also more beneficial for the heart and more conducive to attaining īmān (faith) and tasting the sweetness of the Qur’ān.’

The Prophet used to read in a very slow style and stop at verses that mention paradise or the hell fire. Once he repeated the verse where Allāh says ‘If You punish them, they are Your slaves, and if You forgive them, verily You, only You are the All-Mighty, the All-Wise’[4] for the whole night.[5] Muhammad Ibn al-Kaʽb al-Quraẓῑ (d. 120H) preferred to read Sūrah al-Zalzalah and al-Qāriʽah and repeat them a number of times over reading the whole Qur’ān in a very hasty way. Imām Abū Ḥanῑfah once kept repeating Sūrah al-Zalzalah for the whole night.

Many of our acts of worship (ʽibādāt) have lost their spirit and have been transformed into meaningless ritual images where the focus is on completing them irrespective of whether they leave an impact on our souls or not and if they were perfected or at least performed in a truly satisfactory manner. That is why our worship does not change us for the better; our commitment to the dīn (religion/way of life) of Allāh is very weak and our willingness to sacrifice for the sake of Allāh is even more so - our morals and manners are not improving. Many of us want to be rid of the Tarāwīḥ prayer, no matter how it is offered. Humility, tranquility and reflection are insignificant elements for such Muslims. This is the opposite of what Allāh wants from us; we have removed the very elements from our acts of worship that have been purposely placed there to better us and focus instead on quantity rather quality - for those of us who have any focus at all.

I believe it is time we should put a stop to this and mend our relationship with the Qur’ān as Allāh has commanded: “O mankind! There has come to you a good advice (i.e. the Qur’ān) from your Lord, and a healing for that (diseases of ignorance, doubt, hypocrisy and differences, etc.) in your breasts, - a guidance and a mercy for the believers.”

I call upon committee members and Imāms to seek the pleasure of Allah and not the pleasure of their congregation. I call upon Muslims to advice such Imāms and committee members who do not manifest enough respect to the Qur’ān and to consider appointing other Imāms who recite according to the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace be upon him). We should also remember that completing twenty Rak’ah or even the whole Qur’an during Tarāwīḥ is not compulsory, yet listening to it attentively and reciting it with moderate speed is. If the Tarāwīḥ prayer has to be completed in a specific time, then the amount set to be recited should be reduced so that a better quality of worship is achieved.

I ask Allah to guide us all to follow His Book and the Sunnah of his Messenger and to pardon our shortcomings for He is the Oft-Forgiving Oft-Pardoning.

Notes:
Source: www.islam21c.com

[1]Sūrah Ṣād, 38:29
[2]Sūrah Muḥammad, 47:24
[3]Reported in various places such as Akhlāq Ḥamalah al-Qurʽān by al-Ājurrῑ and al-Baghawῑ in his Tafsῑr.
[4]Sūrah al-Mā’idah, 5:118
[5]Reported by Ibn Abī Shaybah and Aḥmad in his Musnad.
http://islam21c.com/editorials/1054-...e-to-all-imams
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Aisha20
08-18-2010, 11:23 PM
Hmm here at 8.15 they start isha's salaah n then taraweeh n so on. at 9:35 they finish!
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Salahudeen
08-18-2010, 11:46 PM
Originally Posted by Muraad
:sl:

Normal speed - not too fast and not too slow. I like it moderate - if you've listened to Sh. Salah Budair of Madinah, that speed is awesome.

How Taraweeh should NOT be done: :skeleton:


Isn't this disrespectful in a way? I mean it's the book of Allah and look how they're just rushing through it like they can't wait to get out of there.


This is taraweah from my local masjid.



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cat eyes
08-19-2010, 12:47 AM
Originally Posted by Muraad
:sl:

Normal speed - not too fast and not too slow. I like it moderate - if you've listened to Sh. Salah Budair of Madinah, that speed is awesome.

How Taraweeh should NOT be done: :skeleton:

my gosh thats to fast now. reminds me of when i use to go to church with my mum as a little girl and the priest would just speed through the mass ;D
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Al-Hanbali
08-19-2010, 01:02 AM
^ That geeza got beat up for that ... I think there's a video interview by him whilst in hospital.
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'Abd Al-Maajid
08-19-2010, 12:31 PM
Originally Posted by Muraad
:sl:

Normal speed - not too fast and not too slow. I like it moderate - if you've listened to Sh. Salah Budair of Madinah, that speed is awesome.

How Taraweeh should NOT be done: :skeleton:

This is what Prophet SAWS called 'stealing your prayers...'
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Beardo
08-19-2010, 01:43 PM
Last two years, the people who prayed behind me said I read like a bullet. This year Alhamdulillah they said I've started to go at a moderate place.

But I personally prefer speedy Taraweehs. Not to the point where you can't understand it, but as fast as you can go within the limit.
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'Abd Al-Maajid
08-19-2010, 01:51 PM
^ I was expecting your post on this thread...lol
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Soulja Girl
08-19-2010, 01:55 PM
:sl:

Originally Posted by Muraad
How Taraweeh should NOT be done: :skeleton:

Seriously, you guys actually believe this is true?? Use your common sense, someone's probably fast forwarded it... No one in their right mind can pray like this... & come on all the musallis can't go into ruku3/sujood all at once... & am pretty sure there must be old men there too. :><:

:wa:
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Abdul-Raouf
08-19-2010, 05:43 PM
Originally Posted by Muraad
:sl:

Normal speed - not too fast and not too slow. I like it moderate - if you've listened to Sh. Salah Budair of Madinah, that speed is awesome.

How Taraweeh should NOT be done: :skeleton:


Sujood is done for less than a second i think... it should have been fast forwarded...

I cannot beleive this video..
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Vigno
08-19-2010, 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by Crazy_Lady
:sl:



Seriously, you guys actually believe this is true?? Use your common sense, someone's probably fast forwarded it... No one in their right mind can pray like this... & come on all the musallis can't go into ruku3/sujood all at once... & am pretty sure there must be old men there too. :><:

:wa:
But either way the musaliin were doing ruku3 and sujood before the Imam!! That's Wrong..
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cat eyes
08-19-2010, 06:40 PM
no its not fast forwarded you can know if a video has been forwarded and that hasnt. the imam is even mumbling to hes going that fast.
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Soulja Girl
08-19-2010, 06:43 PM
:sl:

^Fineee buh I still don't believe it's true! :mmokay: Seems impossible someone can pray that fast..

:wa:
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Vigno
08-19-2010, 06:47 PM
Originally Posted by Crazy_Lady
:sl:

^Fineee buh I still don't believe it's true! :mmokay: Seems impossible someone can pray that fast..

:wa:
You need to see my sisters praying, they are almost as fast....
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Soulja Girl
08-19-2010, 06:51 PM
:sl:

^So they're just mumbling what they sayin huh?! Tryin to catch a train or wah eh?! Gosh, may Allah guide them.

:wa:
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Vigno
08-19-2010, 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by Crazy_Lady
:sl:

^So they're just mumbling what they sayin huh?! Tryin to catch a train or wah eh?! Gosh, may Allah guide them.

:wa:
Well between mumbling and super speeding yes. Nah, the train is trying to catch them ^ Ameen.
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Esther462
08-27-2010, 05:38 PM
I like the prayer, not to fast and not to slow.
I did it for the 1st time last week and enjoyed it. I just followed my sisters round me. I was tyed after and had 1 and 1/2 hour joruney home from the mosque so didnt get home till 1am. I loved it so much and went back the following night.
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abbas_ali
08-30-2010, 12:51 AM
I have read at two mosques this year. At one there is a young Qari, who is from Libya and recites very slowly and beautifully. At the other mosq
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Beardo
09-01-2010, 03:36 PM
Originally Posted by Crazy_Lady
:sl:

^Fineee buh I still don't believe it's true! :mmokay: Seems impossible someone can pray that fast..

:wa:
I have to agree with you. That is freakishly fast.
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Abdul Wahid
09-02-2010, 03:04 PM
I read at a Somali Masjid yesterday.

It was beautiful. Nice.

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sabr*
09-03-2010, 09:39 PM
As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Why don't we just follow what Allah and his Nabi (SAWS) instructs. Why the what I do verses what Allah instructs or his Nabi did?

Surah TA HA 20:114
فَتَعَالَى اللَّهُ الْمَلِكُ الْحَقُّ وَلَا تَعْجَلْ بِالْقُرْآنِ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يُقْضَى إِلَيْكَ وَحْيُهُ وَقُل رَّبِّ زِدْنِي عِلْمًا (20:114)
FataAAala Allahu almaliku alhaqqu wala taAAjal bialqurani min qabli an yuqda ilayka wahyuhu waqul rabbi zidnee AAilman

114. Then High above all be Allâh, the True King. And be not in haste (O Muhammad SAW) with the Qur'ân before its revelation is completed to you, and say: "My Lord! Increase me in knowledge."
(Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan translation)
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Salahudeen
09-05-2010, 01:52 PM
This is another vid from the masjid I go to :p he recites at the perfect speed I think.

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