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Snowflake
08-21-2010, 01:08 AM
About almost 20 years ago I started to feel very tired and lethargic. For me the new pace of life and a dying social life wasn't much of an inconvenience. I adapt easily. But for others it was. I was labelled everything from lazy to being anti-social. It hurt. But without a diagnosis, I had to take it with a pinch of salt because I didn't have an answer to give.

Don't get me wrong. Doctors sent me for basic blood tests which al hamdulillah, were all negative. Now it wasn’t just exhaustion, but pain. It could be anywhere and everywhere. I ended up in A&E 3-4 times as the chest pains were so severe, I really thought I was having, or going to have a heart attack. But ECG’s revealed my heart was fine. Sometimes, the pain lasted all night and it felt someone had driven a stake in my chest which had come out my back. But still doctors failed to investigate the cause of these pains.
In time, I saw different doctors who all concluded that my symptoms point to depression and offered me anti depressants. I persistently refused and I’m sure I was labelled a hypochondriac. Because every time I’d suffer pain, it would be put down to a symptom of depression and left at that.


Gradually, my health worsened and pain became a permanent part of my life. There were/are some elements of sihr and depression which affect me, but that’s not what I want to talk about. It’s another condition which I want to focus on right now.


Eventually, the pain got so bad I was having to get up the stairs on all fours like an animal, and still do on my worst days. Then last month after the benefits service bearing down on me, I began searching the internet for an explanation for my symptoms. I found something. But I didn’t dwell on it. However I mentioned my suspicions to my doctor. He responded negatively saying if that’s what I think it is then why do I even want a referral since there is no cure for it. SubhanAllah!


At that point, I had to decide whether I want to spend another 20 years not knowing what I have, or step out of my ‘comfort zone’ and insist I be helped. I could’ve given up there and then and walked out, but hamdulillah I didn’t. I told the GP it wasn’t my desire or choice to be in pain. I wanted to do things. I had dreams. Plans. But I was restricted in what I’m able to do through no choice of my own. Al hamdulillah I was referred to see a specialist but on the condition that if they found nothing I wasn’t going to get another referral again. So they had labelled me off as a hypochondriac.


A couple of days ago, I finally got to give my condition a name. Fibromyalgia. I almost feel proud saying it because I’ve waited almost 20 years for it to know it.
I didn’t want a referral because I wanted doctors to cure me. The biggest healer is Allah. I wanted a diagnosis to be able to tell my family & friends, and whomever it concerned that I’m not making it up. I’m not lazy. I’m not anti-social by choice. I’m not avoiding you. I don’t wish to be like this, but this is why I’m like this.


My reason to share this, was not to complain. Al hamdulillah ala kulli haal. But to enlighten others who may know someone going through a similar thing. They may not have a name for their condition. It might not even be the same as what I have. But whatever it is, please consider that the person who appears to be lazy, anti-social, or anything else that doesn’t meet your standards, might actually be ill. It means a lot to us if you understand.


Lastly, never believe doctors when they tell you there’s no cure. The Prophet (saw) told us that Allah has sent a cure for every ill. But whether Allah wills that for us or not is a different matter. We should not complain.

It wouldn’t be right if I mention this condition without leaving anything on it. The pain of your loved ones not understanding you is a hundred times worse than the pain in your body. So again, please take the time to read it and learn. If sharing this stops even one person being falsely labelled, then my efforts will have been worth it. Jazakumullahu khayr.





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Snowflake
08-21-2010, 01:12 AM
FIBROMYALGIA (FMS)


The Definition

Fibromyalgia is a chronic condition affecting around 2% of the population in developed countries. Patients experience widespread musculoskeletal pain and fatigue, often to a disabling degree, as well as many other distressing symptoms.

The official definition of fibromyalgia syndrome (FMS) that is most commonly referred to is that published in 1990 by the American College of Rheumatology (ACR). According to this definition fibromyalgia patients must have:

Widespread pain in all four quadrants of their body for a minimum of three months.
At least 11 of the 18 specific tender points.

Although this definition hasn't been revised and still stands today, 35 FMS experts recently came to a consensus that a person does not need to have the required 11 tender points to be diagnosed and treated for FMS.This now means that people who may not previously have been diagnosed and received treatment for Fibromyalgia will now do so.

Although the above definition is mainly concerned with pain and tenderpoints, there are a lot more symptoms that may be present in Fibromyalgia, just as fatigue is by no means the only symptom in CFS. Below is a list of common FMS symptoms:

Fatigue – This can be both physical and mental fatigue. It is a pronounced fatigue that leads to a significant reduction in ability to carry out normal tasks and live your usual lifestyle. The fatigue is usually ever present to some degree and is not relieved by sleep; in fact it may be a lot worse upon waking, especially after a lot of activity the previous day.

Post Exertional Malaise – A general feeling of being ill. It can be described as a “flu-like” or “hangover” feeling.

Muscle and Joint Aches – These can occur anywhere in the body but the most common sites are the lower back and legs. The aching can be severe and is aggravated substantially by any exertion, physical or mental.

Cognitive Dysfunction – Symptoms of cognitive dysfunction are a common problem in fibromyalgia patients. They include poor concentration, memory loss (constantly forgetting simple information like names and numbers), inability to take in information (having to read the same thing over and over) and a general reduction in cognitive ability and IQ.

Jaw Pain - Pain in the jaw and facial muscles that can be severe. There is significant crossover here with myofascial pain syndrome, and temporomandibular joint syndrome (TMJ).

Morning Stiffness - Stiffness is any of the major joints just as is experienced in other types of arthritis.

Chronic Headache – As would be expected in someone who feels “ill all over” and achy in general, headaches are a common complaint in fibromyalgia. They are different to headaches experienced before the onset of the illness and their severity usually varies inline with other aches and symptoms.

Balance Disturbance – An unusual but common symptom is a loss of balance or sensation of dizziness. This most often occurs upon standing up and the sufferer may feel faint and even black out. This is often referred to as 'neurally mediated hypotension (NMH)' or ‘orthostatic intolerance’ and is most likely due to low blood pressure or abnormal blood flow to the brain.

Mood and Sleep Disturbances – Depression, anxiety and irritability are often present which frequently leads to misdiagnosis by doctors. Sleep disturbances are common and may present as hypersomnolence (sleeping more than normal), sleep reversal i.e. sleeping all day and awake at night, or insomnia (inability to sleep). Sleep apnea and restless leg syndrome (RLS) are also common.

Abdominal Pain/Digestive Disturbances – These are symptoms similar to irritable bowel syndrome and fibromyalgia sufferers are often diagnosed with IBS.
Nausea – Particularly apparent when other symptoms feeling particularly ill in general.

Skin Sensitivity – This is another unusual symptom. Some CFS sufferers experience a sensation where patches of skin become very sensitive to touch and may feel like they are burning. Some people describe this as a “crawling sensation”. (I never would've linked this to FMS. But now I know why sunlight makes my skin feel it's on fire.


PMS type symptoms - Painful menstrual periods (dysmenorrhea) and painful sexual intercourse (dyspareunia)

Unlike CFS the only symptoms required for diagnosis are those relating to pain. As you can see from this list however, there is much more to the illness and significant overlap with CFS. Symptoms vary greatly in severity with factors such as stress, physical activity and time of day playing a part amongst others.

Pain IS the main symptom however, specifically, pain and tenderness in certain areas of the body when pressure is applied to them. These are what are termed 'tender points'.

Areas where pain my be present include:

Back of the head
Elbows
Hips
Knees
Neck
Upper Back
Upper Chest

The pain is often worse in the morning, improves throughout the day, and worsens at night. It can be experienced as aching, throbbing, burning or migratory (moving around the body). It is common for patients to also experience muscle tightness, soreness and spasms.

The presence of tender points is currently used to diagnose fibromyalgia. In addition, researchers use a questionnaire known as the Fibromyalgia Impact Questionnaire (FIQ) to determine the severity of a particular patients condtion and how it affects their ability to live their life.





Possible Causes

The cause, or causes, of fibromyalgia are still not known. There are a number of theories that have been put forward by researchers. The following are the main candidates:

Viral Infection
Immune or Endocrine System Dysfunction
Autonomic Nervous System Dysfunction
Substance P
Candida Overgrowth/Gut Dysbiosis
Physical Injury/Trauma
Accumulation of phosphate due to enzyme deficiency
Chronic Sleep Disorders


Viral Infection
Viral infection has often been suggested as a possible trigger of fibromyalgia in susceptible people, just as it has in CFS, due in part to the fact that both illnesses often start with a flu-like illness. Early studies looked for the Epstein-Barr as symptoms of both CFS and fibromyalgia are similar to those of Epstein-Barr infection. Studies however generally found positive results for the virus to be no higher in fibromyalgia patients than in the healthy controls (1). More recently a study involving two groups of fibromyalgia patients, one group whose illness started quickly another whose illness developed gradually, were tested for IgM antibodies to enterovirus. The study found that in the acute onset group 50% tested positive whereas only 15% tested positive for enterovirus antibodies in the gradual onset group. The researchers suggest this may indicate the virus is either involved in causing the illness or that the immune response in the acute onset group is simply different (2). It may be that viral infection is just one of many triggers that can lead to the development of fibromyalgia. This would account for the differences between patients whose illness began with an acute episode and those whose illness developed gradually. Further research may reveal more about the role of viruses in fibromyalgia.


Immune Dysfunction
There has so far been less research into immune dysfunction in fibromyalgia than there has with chronic fatigue syndrome. Studies that have been done have hinted at multiple abnormalities in immune function but the exact mechanisms have not been elucidated. Many of the results obtained from research so far parallel findings in CFS including elevated levels of T lymphocytes and certain cytokines accompanied by decreased numbers of natural killer cells (3, 4, 5). Recent research has looked at how immune dysfunction may be causing the soft tissue pain associated with fibromyalgia. One 2004 paper proposed that an autoimmune reaction to vasoactive peptides, molecules that act as hormones, neurotransmitters, immune modulators and more, may lead to the development of the disease state of fibromyalgia. The authors write "The proposed mechanism of action is that inflammatory cytokines are provoked by tissue injury from unaccustomed exercise or physical injury. This may trigger a response by certain vasoactive neuropeptides which then undergo autoimmune dysfunction as well as affecting their receptor binding sites." (6).


Endocrine Dysfunction
Endocrine dysfunction is thought to play a significant role in fibromyalgia. The feeling is that the dysfunction centres around the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis, although other hormones also seem to be involved. Research has shown that the HPA axis in fibromyalgia patients is underactive compared to healthy people with the result of smaller amounts of adrenal hormone being excreted. In one study fibromyalgia patients and healthy controls were given a dose of ACTH, the hormone that tells the adrenal glands to release cortisol. The results showed that 95% of fibromyalgia patients showed a lower response than the lowest recorded result from the control group (7). Clearly this shows significant underactive adrenal glands in fibromyalgia patients. Another study found significantly lower levels of DHEA-S, another adrenal hormone, in fibromyalgia patients compared to healthy individuals (8). Although the researchers didn't link this finding to levels of pain in the fibromyalgia patients, it could well play a role in other aspects of illness, as both cortisol and DHEA are stress hormones, low levels of which can compromise the body's ability to deal with stress of any kind. This same study did correlate low levels of testosterone (male sex hormone) with "poor health status", meaning the lower the level of testosterone, the more severe the patients condition.


Nervous System Dysfunction
Both fibromyalgia and CFS patients suffer from strange cognitive difficulties. Often feeling overwhelmed by sounds, smells and other sensory information, especially when in busy public places such as a mall or office. Skin often feels very sensitive to the touch as well. Dr. Jay Goldstein believes these and the other symptoms of fibromyalgia can be explained by neurological dysfunction. When the brain receives sensory information such as this, the prefrontal cortex decides on the importance of the information before passing it on to the rest of the brain for processing. In fibromyalgia sensory information that should be classified as low importance is given high importance. As a result, the brain is overwhelmed by all this "important" information all at once and the patient feels overwhelmed and exhausted. At the root of this information processing problem may be deficiency of certain neurotransmitters, most importantly glutamate, norepinephrine and dopamine (9).

Of course, this could also explain the pain of fibromyaglia with the sensation of touch being amplified into that of pain. Touch and pain are on the same spectrum of sensation after all.

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Feeling light-headed and dizzy is a common probelm expereinced in fibromyalgia. This may be due to neurally mediated hypotension. Learn more about chronic fatigue syndrome


Substance P
Related to the idea of sensory overload is the finding of high levels of substance P in fibromyalgia patients (9). Substance P is a neurotransmitter, found only in the spinal fluid, which has the effect of increasing the importance the prefrontal cortex assigns to sensory input, thus worsening the situation described by Dr. Goldstein. Injection of substance P into the cerebrospinal fluid of healthy volunteers has been shown to give them diffuse body pain similar to that seen in fibromyalgia. Substance P therefore, has the effect of amplifying pain signals. In fibromyalgia patients, the higher levels of substance P turn touch or small pain sensations into the excruciating pain that many experience.


Gut Dysbiosis
Around 30 years ago a handful of physicians, most notably Dr's Crook, Truss and Trowbridge described a syndrome characterized by a wide range of symptoms very similar to those of fibromyalgia which they suggested was caused by overgrowth of the normal intestinal yeast such as Candida albicans which proliferated due to antibiotic usage and other factors. They treated their patients with antifungal drugs with reportedly good results. A small amount of subsequent research seems to validate their theories with it becoming clear that antibiotic drugs adversely affect intestinal flora and allow Candida sp. to become prevalent (10, 11). There are studies that appear to show successful treatment of intestinal candidiasis with antifungal drugs as well (12, 13). Strangely, although Dr. Crook in particular connected intestinal yeast overgrowth with CFS/fibromyalgia decades ago there has been little material published regarding this since, apart from a few papers again suggesting the link due to the observed similarities between supposed yeast related illness and CFS/fibromyalgia (14). The most likely reason for this is the still pervasive view that there are no definitive tests for intestinal yeast overgrowth. Testing of urine or blood for 'tartaric acid' would appear to offer just this definitive test however. Tartaric acid is a product solely of yeast and is not produced as part of human metabolism, therefore any detected in blood or urine must have originated from the yeast that inhabit the intestinal tract. Studies could, and should, be undertaken to compare tartaric acid levels between healthy controls and patients with fibromyalgia. Patients of all the illnesses on this site as well as other unexplained chronic illnesses should also be tested to establish the role of yeast overgrowth in these conditions. An important study recently published has shown the link between antibiotic alteration of gut flora, candida proliferation and the initiation of allergic illness (15). Since allergies are prevalent amongst fibromyalgia sufferers this research is further evidence that the link between this illness and intestinal yeast should be investigated. Despite the lack of published research, all the major diagnostic labs that serve functional/integrative medicine physicians consistently report a correlation between yeast markers such as tartaric acid, elevated blood ethanol and Candida antibodies in samples from fibromyalgia patients. A large number of physicians specializing in the treatment of fibromyalgia and related illnesses include anti-fungal agents as a major part of their treatment protocols. A search of online forums, chat rooms and blogs also reveals a large number of fibromyalgia patients who have had success self-treating with an anti-fungal protocol. Further research in this area is long overdue.

With more published research behind it is the idea that small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) might play a role in fibromyalgia (16). A very interesting 2004 study showed that 100% (42/42) of fibromyalgia patients had SBBO, shown by positive lactulose breath test results (17). Even more startling was the fact that the more severe the SIBO detected, the more pain patients suffered from. On this evidence, lactulose breath testing should be an important diagnostic tool for fibromyalgia patients and SIBO should be treated when detected. SIBO can be treated with targeted antibiotic drugs or with antibiotic herbs.

Learn more about Candida & gut dysbiosis
'Leaky gut syndrome' is thought to be a result of gut dysbiosis and food allergies, amongst other things, and could contribute to the disease process in CFS and a number of other chronic illnesses.



Physical Injury or Trauma
The theory that physical injury can trigger fibromyalgia is a controversial one. A number of published papers have reviewed all available research in this area (18, 19). It was found that the strongest evidence supporting an association between trauma and FM is a recently published Israeli study in which adults with neck injuries had greater than a 10-fold increased risk of developing FM within 1 year of their injury, compared with adults with lower extremity fractures. The authors of one of these papers concluded "although there is some evidence supporting an association between trauma and FM, the evidence is not definitive. Further prospective studies are needed to confirm this association and to identify whether trauma has a causal role".


Elevated Phosphate
Elevated levels of phosphate may be behind some of the muscular aches and pains in fibromyaglia. Dr. St. Amand believes that fibromyalgia is the result of an inherited biochemical abnormality resulting in poor excretion of Phosphate (and oxalate to a smaller degree). Dr. St. Amand believes that fibromyalgia sufferers fail to process phosphate properly so it is retained rather than excreted by the kidneys. He believes this is probably due to deficiency of an enzyme or enzymes involved in this process. According to Dr. St. Amand, the symptoms of fibromyalgia are a result of the accumulation of the excess of phosphate and oxalate within the body's cells. This leads to impairment of energy production within the mitochondria and may also directly cause the pain and stiffness in the muscles and soft tissue experienced in the illness. There has also been published research that suggests this may be the case. Research back in the 1980's involving 15 fibromyalgia patients showed they had elevated levels of adenosine monophosphate and creatine (20). The study also showed the patients had decreased levels of adenosine triphosphate, adenosine diphosphate and phosphoryl creatine. This would suggest that adenosine monophosphate and creatine are accumulating in tissues instead of being converted to these more active substances.

Dr. St. Amand discovered that guaifenesin, a common ingredient of cough medicine could increase the excretion of phosphate and oxalate. Guaifenesin has since proven to be an effective treatment for many fibromyalgia sufferers.


Chronic Sleep Disorders
A common problem in fibromyalgia is disturbed sleep. Sufferers often wake feeling tired and unrefreshed despite getting plenty of sleep. One explanation for this is the finding that patients don't experience sufficient deep REM sleep, instead remaining in a light unrestorative sleep for most of the night (21, 22). EEG testing has also shown that brain activity is higher in fibromyalgia patients whilst asleep. Whenever the deep REM sleep state is approached, electrical activity within the brain increases to prevent it. Patients may also experience waking many times during the night as a result of these abnormalities.

Fibromyalgia patients also have a higher incidence of specific sleep disorders such as restless leg syndrome and sleep apnea:

Restless Leg Syndrome (RLS):
This is a condition in which a persons legs feel extremely uncomfortable, with relief only being achieved by constant movement. It is usually described as "deep-seated, creeping, tingling, burning or aching" feelings in the calves, thighs, or feet. It normally is most prominent when in bed and makes the sufferer feel like getting up and moving around. The exact cause of restless leg syndrome is unknown and it can occur at any age. In fibromyalgia patients restless leg syndrome is often another source of interupted sleep.


Sleep Apnea:
Sleep apnea is defined as the cessation of breathing during sleep. Sufferers may actually stop breathing for a period of time with the result that they are awakened by the automatic reflex to start breathing again. This situation can occur many times during the night resulting in the patient getting very little sleep, not to mention the stress of such a frightening condition. There are two main causes of sleep apnea, the first obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) being caused by obstruction and/or collapse of the upper airway (throat), the second being neurological sleep apnea (NSA) in which the brain ceases to stimulate breathing.

Clearly, sleep disorders play a major part in fibromyalgia, contributing greatly to levels of fatigue and even pain. Whether sleep disturbance is a primary cause of the illness or is itself a symptom is a matter of debate.



Conclusions
It is clear that there are a large number of abnormalities in multiple body systems in fibromyalgia patients. These abnormalities centre around the nervous, endocrine and immune systems and the way these interact with each other. Although these abnormalities have been identified it is still unclear which are causes and which are effects. New research will hopefully shed more light on this but until then doctors who are seeing the best results with patients seem to be those who take a multifactorial approach and try to correct as many of the abnormalities discussed as they possibly can, using currently available treatments.


As there is significant crossover between fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome, possible causes of CFS may well apply to fibromyalgia as well. Take a look at our chronic fatigue syndrome page.

http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-i...myalgia-(fms)/
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Snowflake
08-21-2010, 01:12 AM
Edit: Double post.
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Alpha Dude
08-21-2010, 01:17 AM
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May Allah make things easy for you, ameen.

JazakAllah Khayr for sharing. Eye opening. InshaAllah a good reminder on why not to jump to conclusions about the behaviour of others and the importance of giving benefit of the doubt.

I think a brother I know has this same illness. He mentioned a name similar to what you said but didn't know what he was referring to at the time.
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Danah
08-21-2010, 01:19 AM
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May Allah heal you and protect you from any harm and health. May Allah grant a long pious healthy life.

JazakiAllah khair for sharing, concern, and love for anyone might have the same symptoms.

You are always in my duaa dear sis
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Snowflake
08-21-2010, 01:23 AM
Jazak Allah khayr brother. I was almost scared to read your post, after being used to being told it's all in my head. May Allah bless you abundantly. Ameen
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Snowflake
08-21-2010, 01:28 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Danah
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May Allah heal you and protect you from any harm and health. May Allah grant a long pious healthy life.

JazakiAllah khair for sharing, concern, and love for anyone might have the same symptoms.

You are always in my duaa dear sis
Jazaki Allah khayr my habibati. Ameen to you duaa. Haha but don't pray for my long life dear ukhti. We should seek protection from old age inshaAllah :wub:
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Alpha Dude
08-21-2010, 01:34 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Scents of Jannah
Jazak Allah khayr brother. I was almost scared to read your post, after being used to being told it's all in my head. May Allah bless you abundantly. Ameen
You know, I find this post of yours just as scary. I think I've had a bit of an epiphany this late afternoon/evening when I read how merciful our Prophet peace be upon him was. I can't remember precisely but there's something said about how a good muslim is he in whose presence others do not feel scared. I hope I haven't related that wrong but makes you think. Sorry that you felt scared of what evil I might have said. Make dua for my guidance, dear sister.
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Cabdullahi
08-21-2010, 01:47 AM
You anti-social? i dont know about that but May Allah cure you from this condition insha'Allah
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Woodrow
08-21-2010, 02:28 AM
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Fibro is one of if not the most difficult ailments to diagnose. When I worked 4 or 5 years in Louisiana as a Vocational Rehabilitation counselor. (one of many times I had to seek State Employment, as the salary for my real love, often was very poor) A number of the clients in my case load suffered from it. Their stories were often heart breaking. Often years of being called hypochondriacs or worse they were called frauds seeking sympathy, by members of their own families.

All of them expressed what a great relief it was when they were finally diagnosed and that they were not going insane and the pains were not imaginary.

Sister, Masha Allaah that your diagnosis came at this blessed time. I know the physical pain is still with you, but it is wonderful that the mental anguish has ended and you can now enjoy some peace.

My Du'as are with you that soon an effective halal pain relief will be found to end the physical pains.
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-21-2010, 02:48 AM
whats considered anti-social?



seriously? im curious

because I HATE gatherings of more then 15 people. I dislike parties, loud events, crowds, shopping etc. If I was given the choice of walking in the park with mum or going out with friends, I would choose a walk with mum.


At the same time everyone who see's me or gets to know me thinks I am a very lively happy cheerful fellow.



So what exactly is anti-social?



scents may Allah help you, make dua for me. We all go through our tests it seems.



jazakAllah khair for sharing, theres many people who need to read it!
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Ğħαrєєвαħ
08-21-2010, 03:37 AM
Jazakallahu khaayr sis Scents for sharing your situation with us all, May Allaah ease your times of hardship,Ameen

Anti-social according to me is, when you dont like talking a lot, or you think its a waste of time talking to somone talking about pointless stuff or joining in a conversation thats useless. you just like your time to yourself i guess,prefer to keep yourself to yourself, i dunno ,just my way of putting it. maybe theres more to it.

maybe some can elaborate.
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Snowflake
08-21-2010, 06:07 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Bedouin
You know, I find this post of yours just as scary. I think I've had a bit of an epiphany this late afternoon/evening when I read how merciful our Prophet peace be upon him was. I can't remember precisely but there's something said about how a good muslim is he in whose presence others do not feel scared. I hope I haven't related that wrong but makes you think. Sorry that you felt scared of what evil I might have said. Make dua for my guidance, dear sister.
Please forgive me dear brother for making you feel that way. Please don’t think that hadith relates to you. There’s nothing scary about you, mashaAllah. It was me who was scared by 'not knowing what to expect'. Sorry again. May you enter Paradise as the one other muslims feel safe with. Ameen

format_quote Originally Posted by Abdullahii
You anti-social? i dont know about that but May Allah cure you from this condition insha'Allah
It’s hard to believe isn’t it? Maybe that’s not the right word. Or maybe it’s because there is less pressure and I can hit the log-out button when I need to. On the other hand in real life, I go for days not wanting to see or speak to anyone. Refuse to answer the door & phone. Cannot bear to hear human voices. I may not be anti-social by nature. Allahu alam. I’ve still to analyse a lot of what is going on with me. Jazak Allah khayr for your dua. May Paradise be yours! Ameen


format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
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Fibro is one of if not the most difficult ailments to diagnose. When I worked 4 or 5 years in Louisiana as a Vocational Rehabilitation counselor. (one of many times I had to seek State Employment, as the salary for my real love, often was very poor) A number of the clients in my case load suffered from it. Their stories were often heart breaking. Often years of being called hypochondriacs or worse they were called frauds seeking sympathy, by members of their own families.

All of them expressed what a great relief it was when they were finally diagnosed and that they were not going insane and the pains were not imaginary.

Sister, Masha Allaah that your diagnosis came at this blessed time. I know the physical pain is still with you, but it is wonderful that the mental anguish has ended and you can now enjoy some peace.

My Du'as are with you that soon an effective halal pain relief will be found to end the physical pains.
I cannot thank Allah enough akhi. People look at me like I’ve gone mad when I happily tell them I finally found out what I have, and that it’s Fibromyalgia. But you know firsthand what a good feeling is it to be believed. I always think positively about the physical pain. It‘s been my ball & chain in keeping me from running off and acting on rash decisions. But may Allah accept your duaas. I do want to get better now. There’s a lot I wish to accomplish inshaAllah.
JazakAllahu khayr. May you fly across as Sirat straight into Paradise inshaAllah. Ameen


format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
whats considered anti-social?
seriously? im curious
because I HATE gatherings of more then 15 people. I dislike parties, loud events, crowds, shopping etc. If I was given the choice of walking in the park with mum or going out with friends, I would choose a walk with mum.
At the same time everyone who see's me or gets to know me thinks I am a very lively happy cheerful fellow.
So what exactly is anti-social?
scents may Allah help you, make dua for me. We all go through our tests it seems.
jazakAllah khair for sharing, theres many people who need to read it!
I’m not sure myself brother. Who decides the criteria for anti-socialism anyway? I’m not even sure what the criteria for it are. But the most number of people I can bear to be with is one. Alone is preferable. Maybe once a year I can sit with people and enjoy their company for a while. But soon I feel I want to run away from them. I make sure I don’t see them again for as long as I can help it. I can’t escape family, but prefer it they leave me for weeks on end, and only contact me when they really need to. The more I try to analyze my habits, needs, and their causes, the more confused I get. I feel it’s more complex just being classically ‘anti-social’. Perhaps there’s some effect of the sihr at play. That can also lead to a person preferring seclusion. (And I’ve only myself to blame for not having treated myself successfully.) I just don’t like to be within reach of people. I’m not sure what to call that.
JazakAllahu khayr for your dua. May Allah grant you Paradise through any gate you desire. Ameen




format_quote Originally Posted by мυѕℓιмαн 4 ℓιfє
Jazakallahu khaayr sis Scents for sharing your situation with us all, May Allaah ease your times of hardship,Ameen

Anti-social according to me is, when you dont like talking a lot, or you think its a waste of time talking to somone talking about pointless stuff or joining in a conversation thats useless. you just like your time to yourself i guess,prefer to keep yourself to yourself, i dunno ,just my way of putting it. maybe theres more to it.

maybe some can elaborate.
I think it’s more complex than that too. I do feel the above, but then I can interact better on the internet than in my real life. Maybe I have a log-off button which makes all the difference? On second thoughts, I don’t think anyone can truly analyze anti-social behavior, as science doesn’t take religious, in our case, Islamic beliefs into consideration. Even sihr and the evil eye can make a person anti-social. Allah knows best.

Jazaki Allah for your duaas ukhti. May you smell the scent of Paradise in the company of your loved ones. Ameen.


wa alaykum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu
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Snowflake
08-21-2010, 06:32 AM
Al hamdulillah, I can safely say I'm not anti-social. I never thought for a second it meant this.


What is antisocialism?

An antisocial or antisocialism refers to a person who is unfriendly or non social (asocial). In science, an antisocial is a person who is harmful to others and society.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_antisocialism
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Danah
08-21-2010, 07:29 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Scents of Jannah
Jazaki Allah khayr my habibati. Ameen to you duaa. Haha but don't pray for my long life dear ukhti. We should seek protection from old age inshaAllah :wub:
Yeah we should seek protection from old age that will add nothing to us. But I am making duaa for you to have a long pious healthy life that will increase your good deeds in duniya to get you closer to Allah and then get a higher rank in Paradise inshaAllah.
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Snowflake
08-21-2010, 06:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Danah

Yeah we should seek protection from old age that will add nothing to us. But I am making duaa for you to have a long pious healthy life that will increase your good deeds in duniya to get you closer to Allah and then get a higher rank in Paradise inshaAllah.
Sorry ukhti imsad I don't know how I read. I miss important things. It's like there are gaps in my vision. Perhaps due to my poor concentration. Please forgive me for hurting your feelings and do keep me in your duaas. They mean so much wallahi. I pray Allah enters you into His Paradise before me inshaAllah. Ameen :cry:
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ژاله
08-21-2010, 07:00 PM
أذهب البآس رب الناس إشف أنت الشافي لا شفاءالاشفاءك شفاءلايغادرسقما
May Allah relieve your pain, bless you with perfect health and grant you a pious healthy life, Ameen.
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tango92
08-21-2010, 07:05 PM
^ Ameen

sis your sig says everything, Allah is the only freind youll ever need. i remember uncle woodrow said in a post a while back the only true freind he had in his life was Allah

jazakallah for sharing your story, its made me realise how insignificant my recent troubles were. May we all find our way to Jannah.
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*charisma*
08-21-2010, 08:29 PM
Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatallahi wa barakatuhu

May Allah grant you shifaa and ease your suffering ameen, and if not then may He pardon you of your sins and increase your imaan and grant you jannatul firdous ameen!

While I have never been through what you are going through, Allah alhemdulilah had blessed me with a condition when I was younger. The only thing I can tell you is that no matter what your health is, there is nothing better than keeping a close relationship with Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. Me never having any strong religious background when I was younger often made me feel alone, scared, and depressed 24/7 even though my family was there sympathizing with me every step of the way. To give you a picture of my ignorance, all I knew was that Muhammed sallahu 'alahisalaam was our prophet and three ahadith that my grandma used to often tell me. Knowing what I know now definitely would have made me mentally stronger and while I know that illness makes the body weak wallahi there is no comparison to the sickness that is bred from ignorance. I'll return to my illness a million times again and again than to return to that state of mentality once. Like I often tell my friends, be grateful for your sanity and awareness through the knowledge Allah has granted you, some people don't have that.

I am very glad you brought this post up because physical illness or not, everything is from Allah. I have seen people do miraculous things when it came to religious obligations simply because of their iman. Our bodies my restrict us from things, but a person of faith will go out of their way to keep that restriction from affecting his relationship with Allah subhanallah. Jazaki allahu khair, May Allah grant you patience and strength ameen.

fi aman Allah
w'salaam
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Danah
08-21-2010, 08:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Scents of Jannah
Sorry ukhti imsad I don't know how I read. I miss important things. It's like there are gaps in my vision. Perhaps due to my poor concentration. Please forgive me for hurting your feelings and do keep me in your duaas. They mean so much wallahi. I pray Allah enters you into His Paradise before me inshaAllah. Ameen :cry:
hey why that sad face?? I don't think that you are worse than me in reading, no need for all of that apologizing ^_^
And there is no way my dear sis will hurt my feeling. Bless you (=

And again, may Allah grant you a long healthy pious life that will bring you closer to Allah :P
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cat eyes
08-21-2010, 09:57 PM
:sl:

subhanAllah so many types of illness out there.. i can't believe you went through all this pain ukhti :(

i'm happy you were diagnosed finally.

are you taking medication for it sis? or have they even found any type of cure for it?
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Snowflake
08-21-2010, 11:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Malaak
أذهب البآس رب الناس إشف أنت الشافي لا شفاءالاشفاءك شفاءلايغادرسقما
May Allah relieve your pain, bless you with perfect health and grant you a pious healthy life, Ameen.
Jazaki Allah for your kind dua habibati.



format_quote Originally Posted by tango92
^ Ameen
sis your sig says everything, Allah is the only freind youll ever need. i remember uncle woodrow said in a post a while back the only true freind he had in his life was Allah
jazakallah for sharing your story, its made me realise how insignificant my recent troubles were. May we all find our way to Jannah.
Ameen. Beshak my brother. All of our problems are insignificant. Allah only gives us what we can cope with. Al hamdulillah. Brother Woodrow is 100% right. Allah is always there for us. Always. May Allah remove your difficulties and reward your patience. Ameen




format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma*
Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatallahi wa barakatuhu
May Allah grant you shifaa and ease your suffering ameen, and if not then may He pardon you of your sins and increase your imaan and grant you jannatul firdous ameen!
While I have never been through what you are going through, Allah alhemdulilah had blessed me with a condition when I was younger. The only thing I can tell you is that no matter what your health is, there is nothing better than keeping a close relationship with Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. Me never having any strong religious background when I was younger often made me feel alone, scared, and depressed 24/7 even though my family was there sympathizing with me every step of the way. To give you a picture of my ignorance, all I knew was that Muhammed sallahu 'alahisalaam was our prophet and three ahadith that my grandma used to often tell me. Knowing what I know now definitely would have made me mentally stronger and while I know that illness makes the body weak wallahi there is no comparison to the sickness that is bred from ignorance. I'll return to my illness a million times again and again than to return to that state of mentality once. Like I often tell my friends, be grateful for your sanity and awareness through the knowledge Allah has granted you, some people don't have that.

I am very glad you brought this post up because physical illness or not, everything is from Allah. I have seen people do miraculous things when it came to religious obligations simply because of their iman. Our bodies my restrict us from things, but a person of faith will go out of their way to keep that restriction from affecting his relationship with Allah subhanallah. Jazaki allahu khair, May Allah grant you patience and strength ameen.
fi aman Allah
w'salaam
Jazaki Allah my dear ukhti. I love your thoughts mashaAllah. It’s absolutely true. We are so fortunate to be where we are. To be in the situation we are. We could’ve been in the situation we see others in a cry for. But Allah spared us. Al hamdulillah. Gratitude is not just for what we have, but also for what we have been spared. I consider my condition a blessing. It contained me within four walls where I found the chance to explore my deen. If I’d been well, I’d probably never stayed still. So I don’t feel I’ve lost anything, only gained al hamdulillah.
May Allah increase all us in taqwa and piety. Ameen




format_quote Originally Posted by Danah
hey why that sad face?? I don't think that you are worse than me in reading, no need for all of that apologizing ^_^
And there is no way my dear sis will hurt my feeling. Bless you (=
And again, may Allah grant you a long healthy pious life that will bring you closer to Allah :P
Lol : * ) AMEEN! Jazaki Allah khayr habibati



format_quote Originally Posted by cat eyes
:sl:
subhanAllah so many types of illness out there.. i can't believe you went through all this pain ukhti :(
i'm happy you were diagnosed finally.
are you taking medication for it sis? or have they even found any type of cure for it?
Aww it’s ok ukhti *hug* Al hamdulillah for the diagnosis. I am quite used to bearing the pain. There is no scientific cure but we don't believe that. Allah has made the Quran a source of healing and the prophet (saw) has told us there is cure in black seed, honey and cupping. So it’s up to us to work out a treatment inshaAllah. I usually avoid drugs as I can’t stand the thought of all those toxins in my body and only succumb to taking dose if the pain is unbearable and lasts more than a day. Mostly I just bear it. I can sit with you in moderate pain not even wince once. I had an embarrassing incident a few months ago. I was helping a friend to wash the dishes when the most intense chest pain nearly popped my eyes out of my head. I thought it was a heart attack and if I hadn’t grabbed the sink I would’ve fell because my knees just went. I began reciting the shahadah nonstop breathlessly expecting to die any second. But after a while I was still alive and wondering how long it will take lol. But the the pain started to fade and I felt so silly after wards. But it was really scary thinking if we will be able to recite shahadah when the time really comes. SubhanAllah.

May Allah give us all tawfeek to have the shahadah on our lips in our dying moments. Jazakumullah khayrun everyone. Your kind words and duaas bring a lump to my throat. May Allah enter you all into Jannah before me. Ameen. Wallahi what a beautiful sight that will be. :cry:
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Ummu Sufyaan
09-11-2010, 08:46 AM
:sl:
may allah grant you shifaa.
i want to ask something if you dont mind...because of this condition, do you have trouble doing wudoo and salah? does it affect your ibaadah?
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Snowflake
09-12-2010, 01:01 PM
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Argamemnon
09-15-2010, 06:47 PM
May Allah grant you shifa sister. The information about fibromyalgia is very useful, thank you for posting.
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Snowflake
09-15-2010, 10:20 PM
Ameen. Jazak Allah khayr for your dua and thank you for reading about FMS. I wish more people knew about it.
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AlwaysIslam
09-15-2010, 10:48 PM
Salaams Sis =)

I don't even know you but from reading your post "I didn’t want a referral because I wanted doctors to cure me. The biggest healer is Allah. I wanted a diagnosis to be able to tell my family & friends, and whomever it concerned that I’m not making it up." I have to say you are a strong person with very strong Iman. MashAllah. May Allah bless you in this life and in the hereafter sis.
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Snowflake
09-17-2010, 08:27 AM
Wa alaykum assalam wa rahmatullah,

SubhanAllah! My strengths are from Allah, and my weaknesses are from my self.


May Allah bless you in this life and in the hereafter sis
Ameen, and you sis : )
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Snowflake
04-06-2012, 12:16 AM
An Update on Fibromyalgia


Found this really informative video that shows scientific research has brought enough evidence to prove FM is real yet GP's remain unsympathetic. The vid is long but a real eye-opener. I don't expect everyone to watch it. I watched in 4-5 parts as can't concentrate on one thing for too long. But good on you if you can watch it, and please pass it on to anyone you know who is suffering from FM. Jazakumullahu Khayr :)


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