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جوري
09-01-2010, 09:35 AM
اسماء الانبياء
آدم "اول الخلق"
Adam
تقسيم الإسم: آد- ئـَم
ومعناه (الأرض) وبالعبرية والعربية هو إسم عام للذكور، وهو أبو البشـر.

نوح
Noah
تقسيم الإسم: نوه – ياه
ومعناه "هادئ" وهو نوح بن لامك بن متوشلخ بن إدريس بن يرد بن مهلابيل
بن قينان بن آنوش بن شيث بن آدم وكان بين نوح وبين آدم ألف عام؛ فقد
سأل رجل النبي عن الزمن الذي كان بينه وبين نوح فقال نبينا "عشرة قرون"

إدريس
Enoch
تقسيم الإسم: آخ - نوخ
ومعناه (المُكرِّس) وهو أوَّل من خطَّ بالقلم وقد رفعه الله مكانا ً
علياً في السماء الرابعة

هود

Heber
تقسيم الإسم: هي - بير
ومعناه "رفيق" وهو هود بن شالخ بن أرفكشاد بن سام بن نوح,
وهود عند أهل الكتاب هو (عابر) وهو من الأنبياء العرب الذين
قال عنهم نبينا: "أربعة أنبياء من العرب هود وصالح وشعيب ونبيُّك
يا أبا ذر" وهو من العرب العاربة التي سبقت إسمعيل جدّ العرب ال مستعربة

صالح
Methuselah
تقسيم الإسم: بلا تقسيم
ومعناه من الصلاح وهو عكس الفساد أو الخراب.

لوط
Lot
تقسيم الإسم: لوط
ويعني (مُتَستِّر) يُشبه إسم (ناحميا) كما سيأتي لاحقاً, وكان لوط
ابن أخي إبراهيم

إبراهيم
Abraham
تقسيم الإسم: آب – راهام
ومعناه (أب رحيم) وكان إسمه من قبل (آبرام) أي (أب الأمم) ولإنه أوَّاه
كثير الجزع سمَّاه الله (إبراهيم) وهو أبو الأنبياء.

إسرائيل
Israel
تقسيم الإسم: إسرا – ئيل
و (ئيل) تعني الله و إسرا تعني (مكافح – مجاهد – مصارع – مقاتل – محافظ)
والأصوب هو (مجاهد الله) أي أنه الذي يجاهد لأجل الله وإسمه العبري هو
(ياعقوبي) أو (يعقوب) ومعناه (يَعقُب) أو (يَخْلُف) أي يحِّل محَّل.

إسحق
Isaac
تقسيم الإسم: شا-حَّك
وهو إسم عبراني من جزء واحد وينُطق بالعبرية (شاحاك) ويعني (ضحَّاك)
أو(ضاحك) وسمّي كذلك لإن سارة أمه لما بشّرتها الملائكة بأنها ستلد فصكَّت
وجهها وضحكت ل إنها إستغربت الموقف , فلما جاءها الولد تذكرت الموقف
وقالت: هو ولدي جائتني بشارته وأنا أضحك فأسميته ضاحك أي (إسحق)
وهو الأخ الغير شقيق للنبي إسمعيل عليهما السلام.

إسمعيل

Ishmael
تقس! يم الإسم: يشيمع – ئيل
وهو يعني (يَسْمَع الله) وسمِّي بإسمعيل لإن هاجر عليها السلام لما طافت بين
الصفا والمروة طلباً لماء يسد ظمأ ابنها لم تجد ماء في أول ست أشواط؛ وفي
الشوط السابع إستجاب الله لها دعائها فقالت (يَسْمَع الله دُعائي) فمبالغةً لشكرها
ربها سمَّت إبنها (يَسْمَع الله) لتتذكر كيف سمع الله صراخها وهي تدعوه؛ وإسم
إسمعيل قريب جداً من إسم (شمويل) كما سيأتي لاحقاً إذ أن الإختلاف بين الإسمين
في تصريف فِعل (شَمَع) أي (سمع) بالعبري.

يوسف
Joseph
تقسيم الإسم: يوه – سف
ويعني ( يهوه يزيد ) ويهوه هو إسم من أسماء الله عند اليهود وبالتالي يكون معناه
) الله يزيد) أي أن الله يزيد كل خير من عنده؛ وهو ليوسف ابن إسرائيل
(يعقوب) من زوجته راحيل أو (ريتشل) وهو الذي سمّاه نبينا الكريم ابن الكريم ابن الكريم
ابن الكريم, يوسف بن يعقوب بن إسحق بن إبراهيم عليهم السلام أجمعين, ولكل مسمّى
من إسمه نصيب فلقد زاد الله جمال يوسف حتى قال نبينا(ص) أنه أعطي شطر الجمال.

يونس
Jonah
تقسيم الإسم: يوه - ناه
ومعناه (حمامة) وهو (يونان) عِند أهل الكتاب؛ وهو النبي الذي بعثه الله
تعالى لأهل نينوى بالعراق ولَـبُثَ في بطن الحوت ثلاثة أيام بلياليهن.

أيوب

Job
تقسيم الإسم: يو-هوب
ومعناه (مستقيم) أي الرجل المستقيم الذي يطيع الله تعالى على الدوام؛
وهو لأيوب بن موص بن رازح بن العيص بن إسحق بن إبراهيم وتجلَّت معنى الإستقامة
التي هي من إسمه في صبر أيوب على البلاء
الذي إبتلاه الله به.

شعيب
Jethro
تقسيم الإسم: لا يوجد
ومعناه (متفوِّق) وهو حما النبي موسى الذي زوجه إحدى بناته وسمِّي
(متفوِّق) لإنه كان بارع في رعاية الغنم منذ صغره.

موسى
Moses
تقسيم الإسم: موه – زيز
ويُنطق بالعبرية (موشيه) ومعناه (مُنقِذ) وبعد التدقيق والتمحيص في أصل
اللغة العبرية القد يمة وجدت أن (مُنقِذ) أقرب إلى (مخلِّص).

هارون
Aaron!
تقسيم الإسم: آهـَ - ران
ومعناه (موطِن القوَّة) وقال أهل اللغة العبرية أن أصل الإسم يُحتمل أن يكون
قِبطياً وذلك لتأثر أم موسى وهارون عليها السلام بالبيئة المصرية
التي سكنت فيها بنو إسرائيل.

إلياس
Elijah
تقسيم الإسم: لاي - جاه
ومعناه (الرب إلهي) وهو إلياس بن عازر بن أليعازر بن هارون بن عمران
وكان هو النبّي المُرسل إلى قومٍ يعبدون صنما ً إسمه (بعل) وسمِّيت عليه
مدينة في لبنان شهيرة وهي (بعلبك).

يُوشع
Joshua
تقسيم الإسم: يوش – هو – ياه
وقد تسمّى به فتى موسى يوشع بن نون بن أفراييم بن يعقوب بن
إسحق بن إبراهيم الخليل الذي ذكره الله في سورة الكهف في قصة
الخضر في قوله {وَإِذْ قَالَ مُوسَى لِفَتَاهُ لا أَبْرَحُ حَتَّى أَبْلُغَ مَجْمَعَ الْبَحْرَيْنِ
أَوْ أَمْضِيَ حُقُبًا} (60) سورة الكهف؛ومعناه ( يَهْوَه هو الخلاص)
و"يهوه" هو إسم من أسماء الله عند اليهود ولذلك تجد فرقة من
فرق النصارى تسمَّت ب إسم الذين زعموا أنهم شاهدوا الرب
لما كلّم الله موسى وهم (شهود يهوه), ومعنى إسم يوشع قريب
من إسم المسيح الآرامي (ياه – سوع) أو (يسوع) الذي يعني
(الله يخلِّص) وأيضا ً من (شيع – ياه) أو (إشعياء) والذي يعني
(خلاص الرب) و اليشع الذي يعني (الرب هو خلاصي) وتصريف فعل
"الخلاص" في كل هذه الأسماء يدل على تعلُّق بني إسرائيل بالخلاص
الحقيقي أو الـ
Salvation الذي كانوا ينتظروه على يد مسيّا وقد وقع
على! يد النبي محمد (ص) الذِّي جاء بشريعةٍ تقوم بكتابٍ يهدي إلى الحق
ويخلِّص الناس من عبادة العبيد لعبادة رب العباد وبسيفٍ ينصر الله به
أولياؤه على أعدائه.

اليسع
Elisha
تقسيم الإسم: إيلي – ياه – شاع
ومعناه (الرب مخلِّصي) وهو ابن عم إلياس وقد خلفه في تأدية الرسالة لأهل بعلبك.

ذي الكفل
Ezekiel
تقسيم الإسم: زيكي - ئيل
ومعناه ( قوَّة الله ) وكما ذكرت سابقاً فإن (ئيل) تعني الله؛ والنبي ذو
الكفل هو نفسه (حزقيال) عِندَ أهل الكتاب وهو من الأسرى الذين أُخذوا إلى بابل العراق
لما حصل السقوط الأول لأورشليم (بيت المقدس) 580 سنة قبل الميلاد.

داوود
David
تقسيم الإسم: داي – فود
ويُنطق (دافييد) أيضا ً ويعني ( المحبوب) وسمُّي بالمحبوب للرواية الثابتة
عن أن آدم رأى من ذريته شاب أشقر الشعر وأزرق العين فقال: يا رب من هذا؟ فقال الله:
هذا ولد من ذريتك, فقال آدم: وكم يعيش؟ فقال الرب: يعيش ستِّين عاماً,فقال آدم:
أي ربِّ أنسئ له من عمري أربعين عاماً ففعل الله تعالى,فعاش نبي الله داود مائة
عام تامة لإن آدم أحبَّه عن غيره فسُمِّي محبوباً.

سليمان
Solomon
تقسيم الإسم: شال – موه
معناه (رَجل سلام) و (شال) إختصار (شالوم) أي سلام وينطق أيضاً
(سولومون) وقيل أن سمكة (السلامون) سميت على إسم الملك
سليمان لإنها "مسالمة" من بين باقي الأسماك.

شَمْويل
Samuel
تقسيم الإسم: شَم – يو – ئيل
ومعناه "سَمِعَ الله" وقد خرَّجت سابقاً معنى (إسمعيل) ومعناه "يَسمع الله"
والإسمان متشابهان جداً, و شمويل عند أهل الكتاب هو (صموئيل) وكان قاضياً
ونبيّاً وهو الذي مَسَح داوود مَلِكاً على إسرائيل في وقت طالوت, وهو الذي ذكره
الله تعالى في قوله: {أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى الْمَلإِ مِن بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ مِن بَعْدِ مُوسَى إِذْ قَالُواْ
لِنَبِيٍّ لَّهُمُ ابْعَثْ لَنَا مَلِكًا نُّقَاتِلْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ} (246) سورة البقرة .

آرمياء
Jeremiah
تقسيم الإسم: جاري – ياه – ماي – ياه
ومعناه (الرب يرفعني) والياهات المقدمة هي مقسمات بالعبرية لتمجيد
الرب سبحانه وتعالى.

إشعياء

Isaiah
تقسيم الإسم: شيع- يوه
ومعناه (خلاص يهوه) وهو إشعيا بن آموص ويُعَّد سِفره في العهد
القديم من ركائز الأدب العبري.

ناحميا
Nehemiah
تقسيم الإسم: ناحيم - ياه
ومعناه (المعزِّي) وهو شبيه بالإسم الذي أطلقه المسيح في إنجيل يوحنا
عن الفاراقليط؛ وعِند أهل الكتاب يُنطق (نحميا) وهو النبي الذي كُلِّف
بقيادة اليهود إلى أورشليم (بيت المقدس) بعد النفي.

هُوشَياع
Hosea
تقسيم الإسم: ها-شيع
ومعناه (الخلاص) وسبق أن قلت في إسم ال نبي (إشعياء) في تقسيم الإسم
أن "شيع" تعني خلاص والهاء في اللغة العبرية تحل مكان
(الـ) التعريفية وهو
من أنبياء بني إسرائيل وعِند أهل الكتاب هو (هوشع).

يوئيل
Joel
تقسيم الإسم: يوه - ئيل
ومعناه (يهوه هو الله) وسبق أن قمت بتعريف (يوه) أنها إختصار
(يهوه) وأن (ئيل) هي الله بالعبرية فتكون مجتمعة: يوئيل, وبه
حُب إثبات أن يهوه هو الله.

صِفاني
Zephaniah
تقسيم الإسم: زيفا - نييه
ومعناه (الله يَسْـتُر) ودلالة التسمية أن الله يستر على العبد طالما
ستر العبد على نفسه وهو عند أهل الكتاب (صفنيا).

حبقوق
Habakkuk
تقسيم الإسم: هاب - اكوك
ومعناه (يُعانِقْ) وإسمه هو نفسه عند أهل الكتاب.

عُزير
Ezra
تقسيم الإسم: إيزير-ياه
ومعناه (مُساعِد) وهو الذي قال عنه بعض يهود أنه إبن الله لإنه
أعاد كتابة التوراة من غير وحي بعد سبي اليهود ببابل وهو الذي
أماته الله مائة عام ثم أحياه وتلا بيانه في قوله {أَوْ كَالَّذِي مَرَّ عَلَى
ق َرْيَةٍ وَهِيَ خَاوِيَةٌ عَلَى عُرُوشِهَا قَالَ أَنَّىَ يُحْيِي هََذِهِ اللّهُ بَعْدَ مَوْتِهَا
فَأَمَاتَهُ اللّهُ مِئَةَ عَامٍ ثُمَّ بَعَثَهُ قَالَ كَمْ لَبِثْتَ قَالَ لَبِثْتُ يَوْمًا أَوْ بَعْضَ
يَوْمٍ قَالَ بَل لَّبِثْتَ مِئَةَ عَامٍ فَانظُرْ إِلَى طَعَامِكَ وَشَرَابِكَ لَمْ يَتَسَنَّهْ
وَانظُرْ إِلَى حِمَارِكَ وَلِنَجْعَلَكَ آيَةً لِّلنَّاسِ وَانظُرْ إِلَى العِظَامِ كَيْفَ
نُنشِزُهَا ثُمَّ نَكْسُوهَا لَحْمًا فَلَمَّا تَبَيَّنَ لَهُ قَالَ أَعْلَمُ أَنَّ اللّهَ عَلَى
كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ} (259) سورة البقرة.

دانيال
Daniel
تقسيم الإسم: داني-ئيل
معناه (قضا الله) أي حَكَم؛ و (ئيل) كما ذكرت تعني (الله) كـ(بيت ئيل)
التي تعني (بيت الله) و (دان) تعني قضى وهو من القضاء أي الحكم
وليس القضاء مُلازِم القدر.

زكريا

Zachariah
تقسيم الإسم: زاك – آه – راي – ياه
ويعني (الله ذُكِر) وأول جزء من إسمه (زكر) توافق الكلمة العربية (ذِكر)

يحيى

John
تقسيم الإسم: يو – حن َّه
ويعني ( حَنوُن ) وأول من تسمَّى بهذا الإسم هو يحيى بن زكريا ثم تسمَّى
بعده مباشرةً أحد أنشط تلاميذ وحواريي المسيح , وعِندَ أهل الكتاب يحيى
هو (يوحنَّا) ولذلك يفرِّق أهل الكتاب بين يحيى
النبي وبين يحيى التلميذ بقولهم عن الأول
(يوحنا المعمدان) الذي تعمَّد بالماء المقدسة بنهر الأردن.

عيسى

Jesus
تقسيم الإسم: ياه - شوع
ويعني (الله يُخلِّص) وعِند النصارى هو(يسوع) وكان لسان المسيح
آرامياً وكان إسمه بالآرامية القديمة (ياشوا), ولما دخلت النصرانية
اليونان سمُّوه (إيسوس) ولما دخلت بلاد العرب صار (عِيسَى)

محمد صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم
Mohammed
من صفة الحمد وهو الذي يحمد ثم يحمد ثم يحمد, فلا يحمد مرة واحدة فقط من عظمة أفعاله, إنما يحمد كثيرافصار محمدا.
وأيضا (أحمد) هو أحمد الحامدين على الإطلاق فلا أحد يحمدالله مثله وهو
آخر الأنبياء والمرسلين والمرسل للثقلين وأفضل البشـروشفيع الأمة يوم المحشر

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syed_z
09-01-2010, 12:16 PM
Salaam...

I don't understand Arabic.. But thanks for sharing..
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Nájlá
09-01-2010, 01:29 PM
Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ
إسحق Isaac تقسيم الإسم: شا-حَّك وهو إسم عبراني من جزء واحد وينُطق بالعبرية (شاحاك) ويعني (ضحَّاك) أو(ضاحك) وسمّي كذلك لإن سارة أمه لما بشّرتها الملائكة بأنها ستلد فصكَّت وجهها وضحكت ل إنها إستغربت الموقف , فلما جاءها الولد تذكرت الموقف وقالت: هو ولدي جائتني بشارته وأنا أضحك فأسميته ضاحك أي (إسحق) وهو الأخ الغير شقيق للنبي إسمعيل عليهما السلام.

Nice thread!

Really beautiful meanings, I personally like the name Eshaaq :)
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Al-Yasa
09-01-2010, 01:43 PM
can some one translite
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Al-Yasa
09-01-2010, 01:44 PM
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Hiroshi
09-01-2010, 02:38 PM
Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ
اسماء الانبياء






آدم "اول الخلق"





Adam



تقسيم الإسم: آد- ئـَم

ومعناه (الأرض) وبالعبرية والعربية هو إسم عام للذكور، وهو أبو البشـر.



نوح





Noah



تقسيم الإسم: نوه – ياه

ومعناه "هادئ" وهو نوح بن لامك بن متوشلخ بن إدريس بن يرد بن مهلابيل
بن قينان بن آنوش بن شيث بن آدم وكان بين نوح وبين آدم ألف عام؛ فقد
سأل رجل النبي عن الزمن الذي كان بينه وبين نوح فقال نبينا "عشرة قرون"


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I received this in an email :shade:
Many of those names are derived from phrases using God's name "Jehovah". Joshua means "Jehovah is Salvation". Joel means "Jehovah is God". John means "Jehovah has been Gracious". And Jesus means "Jehovah is Salvation" (same as Joshua).

So is God's name "Jehovah" shown in Arabic in your post? I would like to see how it appears. Thanks.
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جوري
09-01-2010, 04:17 PM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
Many of those names are derived from phrases using God's name "Jehovah". Joshua means "Jehovah is Salvation". Joel means "Jehovah is God". John means "Jehovah has been Gracious". And Jesus means "Jehovah is Salvation" (same as Joshua).

So is God's name "Jehovah" shown in Arabic in your post? I would like to see how it appears. Thanks.
No Jehova doesn't appear in the post..

here is an enlightening post about 'Jehova'

CHAPTER THREE - WHO IS JEHOVAH? (What is His Name - by Dr. Ahmed Deedat)
CHAPTER THREE
WHO IS JEHOVAH?
Astonishing as it may sound, it is an admitted fact that prior to the sixteenth century, the word "Jehovah," was unheard of. Whenever the origin of this word appeared in its true Hebrew form in Jewish Scriptures (read from right to left as in Arabic) Yet, Huh, Wav, Huh; or Y.H.W.H. these four letters were preceded by a substitute word "Adonai," to warn the reader that the following word was not to be articulated. The Jews took meticulous care in repeating this exercise in their "Book of God" six thousand, eight hundred and twenty-three times - interpolating the words "Adonai" or "Elohim." They sincerely believed that this awesome name of God was never to be pronounced. This prohibition was no ordinary affair: it called for a penalty of death on one who dared to utter it, and this taboo has been more successful than all the "DO's" and "DON'T's" of the Ten Commandments put together.
If Jehovah is the name of God Almighty, and if the 27 Books of the New Testament were inspired by Him, then it is an anomaly of the highest order, that He (Jehovah) signally failed to have His Own Name recorded in "His Word" (N.T.) the Christian addition to the Jewish Bible. The Christians claim that they have in their possession over twenty-four thousand so-called "originals" of their Holy Writ in the Greek language, and yet not a single parchment has "Jehovah" written in it. Curiously this "name of God" (?) has been sacrilegiously replaced by the Greek words ky'ri.os and the.os', which mean 'Lord' and 'God.' Yet, miracle of miracles - Alleluya! - no devil or saint has been able to eliminate the word "ALLAH" from the so-called New Testament of the Christians.
NEW FANGLED DOCTRINES
A hundred years ago, all of a sudden, more than a hundred new cults and denominations of Christiandom mushroomed in the United States of America. The Seventh Day Adventists, the Christian Scientists, the Menonites, the Christiadelphins, The Jehovah's Witnesses and the like. The founder of the last named cult, a Judge Rutherford, about whom the orthodox Christians say that he was no "Judge." This Judge was a voracious book-worm and a prolific writer. He stumbled across the word "Jehovah" which tickled him immensely, and he made a religion out of it.
Judge Rutherford, followed by Charles T. Russell created a new "church," which in its system of organisation and administration is second to none in the world. There is very much we Muslims can learn from their enthusiasm and methodology. Read, "Thirty Years a Watchtower Slave" by Schelin. It is not their theology I am enamoured with but their modus operandi (the way they operate). Read, how this incorrigible sect came very close to conquering Germany before Hitler. Read, about their second come- back in West Germany. Think, why they are making a most concerted effort in Nigeria. Will the system or religion that prevails in Nigeria, be utlimately the norm of the rest of Africa! This giant is the hero of the majority of the African people south of the Sahara. Muslims must reflect.
VIRILE SECT
The "Jehovah's Witnesses," have made the most phenominal progress of all the religious sects of the past hundred years, on a percentage basis. The Bahaies are moving at a snails-pace in comparison, actually receding in ratio with the other Christian off-shoots. These "Witnesses" are the fittest in their fight against the other Christians as well as against the Muslims. Simply because they programme themselves five times a week in their "Kingdom Halls," and what they learn they implement during the week-ends. We Muslims are supposed to be "programmed" five times a day in our daily Salaat, but we have lost the true purpose of this Pillar of Islam. Our Salaat is for earning Sawaab (spiritual blessings) only.
They have made the word JEHOVAH famous. They knock at people's doors, asking the question - "What is His Name?" The orthodox Christian replies - "God." They say, "God is not a name, it is an object of worship. What's His Name?" "Father," says the orthodox as a second try. "Is your father God?" Of course not! So what is His Name? "JEHOVAH! is His Name," says the "Witness" to both Muslims and non-Muslims alike. He has become a professor of this one word. He has made it into a religion.
THE "TETRAGRAMMATON"
Why not for a change ask him, a question or two. Ask him where he got the word Jehovah from? He will surely reply - "From the Holy Bible." What does it say? Does it spell out the word J-e-h-o-v-a-h? "No," he will reply. "There is a 'tetragrammaton' in the Bible from which the word Jehovah is derived." What is a tetragrammaton? No one seems to have heard this highly mystical term. In the University of Illinois in the U.S.A. I asked a gathering of students and lecturers whether any one had heard this jaw-breaker! Not one of them knew its meaning! But every Jehovah's Witness seems to know, even the commonest of them. They have really specialised - ours is a world of specialisation. They are Professors of the one word - Jehovah.
What then is a "tetragrammaton!" The Jehovah's Witness replies, "Y H W Hi!"
"No!" "What I want to know from you is, what does the word tetragrammaton mean?" You will find him most reluctant in explaining. Either he does not really know, or he is feeling embarrassed in replying. "Tetra," in Greek means FOUR, and "grammaton," means LETTERS. It simply means "a four letter word."
Can you read into Y H W H the word Jehovah? I cannot. "No!", says the Jehovah's Witness, "we ought to add vowels to these four consonents to produce the sound. Originally, both Hebrew and Arabic were written without the vowel signs The native of each language was able to read if even without those vowels. Not so the outsider, for whose benefit the vowels were invented.
THE "J" SICKNESS
Let us add the vowels as the "Witness" suggests. YHWH becomes YeHoWaH. Juggle as you like but you can never materialise Jehovah! Ask him, from which hat he drew his "J". He will tell you that "this is the 'popular' pronunciation from the 16th century." The exact sound of the four letters YHWH is known neither to the Jews nor to the Gentiles, yet he is ramming JEHOVAH down everyones throats. The European Christians have developed a fondness (sickness) for the letter "J" They add J's where there are no Jays. Look!
Yael he converts to Joel Yehuda to Juda Yeheshua to Joshua Yusuf to Joseph Yunus to Jonah Yesus to Jesus Yehowa to JehovahThere is no end to the Westerner's infatuation for the letter "J." Now in the busy streets of South Africa, he charges people who carelessly cross them for "jay-walking," but nobody charges him for converting Jewish (Yehudi) names into Gentile names.
The letters Y H W H occur in the Hebrew (Jewish) Scriptures 6 823 times, boasts the Jehovah's Witness, and it occurs in combination with the word "Elohim;" 156 times in the booklet called Genesis alone. This combination YHWH/ELOHIM has been consistently translated in the English Bible as "Lord God," "Lord God," Lord God," ad infinitum.
COMMON ORIGIN
What is YHWH; and what is ELOHIM? Since the lews did not articulate the word YHWH for centuries, and since even the Chief Rabbis would not allow the ineffable to be heard, they have forfeited the right to claim dogmatically how the word is to be sounded. We have to seek the aid of the Arab to revive Hebrew, a language which had once died out. In every linguistic difficulty recourse has to be made to Arabic, a sister language, which has remained alive and viable. Racially and linguistically, the Arabs and the Jews have a common origin, going back to Father Abraham.1
Note the startling resemblance between the languages, very often the same sounding words carry identical meaning in both.
HEBREW ARABIC ENGLISH Elah Ilah god Ikhud Ahud one Yaum Yaum day Shaloam Salaam peace Yahuwa Ya Huwa oh he
YHWH or Yehova or Yahuwa all mean the very same thing. "Ya" is a vocative and an exclamatory particle in both Hebrew and Arabic, meaning Oh! And "Huwa" or "Hu" means He, again in both Hebrew and Arabic. Together they mean Oh He! So instead of YHWH ELOHIM, we now have Oh He! ELOHIM.

http://www.jamaat.net/name/name3.html

so Jehova literally translates in Arabic and Hebrew to 'Oh he' -- sorry to disappoint you, I know you were hoping it is a secret name and all, but all it is, is a strange English concoction to calling out to God!

all the best
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abdussattar
09-01-2010, 04:41 PM
I dont understand arabic... can you translate it in english?
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جوري
09-01-2010, 04:44 PM
Insha'Allah akhi when I have the time, but it won't be soon unless another brave brother/sister has a bit of time on their hand to this with some fidelity insha'Allah..

:w:
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Muslim Woman
09-01-2010, 05:35 PM
Salaam sis

pl. translate your first post :)
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Hiroshi
09-01-2010, 07:40 PM
Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ



Joel
تقسيم الإسم: يوه - ئيل
ومعناه (يهوه هو الله) وسبق أن قمت بتعريف (يوه) أنها إختصار
(يهوه) وأن (ئيل) هي الله بالعبرية فتكون مجتمعة: يوئيل, وبه
حُب إثبات أن يهوه هو الله.

صِفاني
The name Joel means: "Jehovah is God". The name Jehovah is highlighted in red.
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جوري
09-01-2010, 07:54 PM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
The name Joel means: "Jehovah is God". The name Jehovah is highlighted in red.
you are so funny, did you read the post by Dr. Deedat?

let me wrap it up for you in a sentence in case reading the entire post is too much of a challenge:

HEBREW ARABIC ENGLISH Elah Ilah god Ikhud Ahud one Yaum Yaum day Shaloam Salaam peace Yahuwa Ya Huwa oh he
YHWH or Yehova or Yahuwa all mean the very same thing. "Ya" is a vocative and an exclamatory particle in both Hebrew and Arabic, meaning Oh! And "Huwa" or "Hu" means He, again in both Hebrew and Arabic. Together they mean Oh He! So instead of YHWH ELOHIM, we now have Oh He! ELOHIM.


literally oh he -- you should in fact concentrate on the part in maroon highlighted below -- go ahead and use an Arabic dictionary for the etymology 'break down of the word ya huwa ''oh he elohim, hwa Allah'


يهوه هو الله
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جوري
09-01-2010, 07:57 PM
can't add to the post up without it being admixed with the Arabic..
but 'Jehova' isn't God's name, it is what you would use to call out to God, hope that clarifies it for you in the absolute most simplest terms.. it is in fact what you'd use to introduce God, or call out to God, rather than have it mean God!
the ئيل ending seems to always be missing from your 'Jehova' and that is the portion that actually references God.
yu ael
isra ael
isma ael


capisce?
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ابن آل مرة
09-01-2010, 08:52 PM
the name "Lut" means Pure doesnt it?
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جوري
09-01-2010, 09:13 PM
Originally Posted by Ahmed M.
the name "Lut" means Pure doesnt it?
Lut means mutassatir comes from the word satr
one who likes modesty, one who covers themselves, one who is subtle!

when I have the time I'll go over these insha'Allah.. I am just pressed for time now, unless some other Arabic speaker would like to take a half an hour to translate this insha'Allah..

:w:
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aadil77
09-01-2010, 11:19 PM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
Many of those names are derived from phrases using God's name "Jehovah". Joshua means "Jehovah is Salvation". Joel means "Jehovah is God". John means "Jehovah has been Gracious". And Jesus means "Jehovah is Salvation" (same as Joshua).

So is God's name "Jehovah" shown in Arabic in your post? I would like to see how it appears. Thanks.
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Ramadhan
09-02-2010, 03:44 AM
I translated the post using Google Translate. It is not perfect, but you get the gist.



The names of the prophets
Adam "the first creation"
Adam
Division Name: Ed - Im
And meaning (the earth), Hebrew and Arabic is a generic name for males, is the father of human beings.

Noah
Noah
Division Name: noted - Yeah
, Which means "quiet", a Ben Noah Ben Lamech Matuszk bin Idris bin is bin Mhlapil
Ben Ben Cainan Ben Enos Seth son of Adam and Noah, was among the thousand years between Adam; has
A man asked the Prophet about the time that was between him and the Prophet Noah said "ten horns"

Idris
Enoch
Division Name: Ach - Nok
And meaning (dedicated), the first line of the pen has a place God raised
Fourth highest in the sky

Hood
Heber
Division Name: A - Bear
It means "comrade" is Ben Hood Shalikh Arpachshad bin bin Sam son of Noah,
And hood when the people of the book is (transient), one of the prophets Arabs
Their Prophet said: "Four prophets of the Arabs Hood and Saleh, Shoaib and APEC
O Abu Dhar, "which the Arabs Arabh that preceded the forefather of the Arabs of Ishmael Mstarabp

Valid
Methuselah
Division Name: None division
And meaning of the righteousness which is the opposite of corruption or destruction.

Lot
Lot
Division Name: Lot
And means (sneaky) is similar to the name (Nahmia) and will come later, and the length of
My nephew Ibrahim

Abraham
Abraham
Division Name: August - Raham
And meaning (AP Rahim) and was named by the (conclusion) any (father of the United) and that Oh
Many alarming he called God (Abraham), the father of the prophets.

Israel
Israel
Division Name: families - Operator
And (Operator) means God and families means (fighter - Mujahid - wrestling - fighter - the Governor)
And more appropriately (Mujahid God) that is, which is striving for God and his name is Hebrew
(Iaqhobe) or (Jacob) and meaning (followed by) or (successor) any replace.

Isaac
Isaac
Division Name: SHA - Knit
A Hebraic name of the one part and speaks Hebrew (Shahak) and means (Dahak)
Or (Laughing) and also because Sarah called his mother to her skin she would give birth the angels Vskt
Her face and I laughed for the position she was amazed, when I remembered the boy came to her position
She said: I have is I got the Gospel and I laugh Laughing Vosmith any (Isaac)
A third brother, the brother of the Prophet Ishmael peace be upon them.

Ishmael
Ishmael
Measure the! Im Name: Eachema - Operator
Which means (God hears) and so-called because the Bisamail emigrated to the peace and walked around between
Safa and Marwa request for water fills the thirst of her son did not find water in the first six games; In
The seventh game God answered her, she said her du'aa (hear my prayer) to thank her Vmbalgp
Lord named her (heard of God) to remember how he heard God call him a cry; and the name of
Ishmael is very close to the name (Shmuel) and will come later as the difference between the two names
In the conduct of an act (wax) any (heard) in Hebrew.

Joseph
Joseph
Division Name: Yeoh - Seve
And means (Jehovah's more), and Jehovah is the name of God when the names of the Jews and thus would mean
) God more than) any more than that God is all good from him; which is a Joseph, son of Israel
(Jacob) or from his wife Rachel (Rachel), which is called the Holy Prophet I'm Holy Quran
I'm Karim, Yusuf bin Yaqub ibn Ishaq ibn Ibrahim peace be upon them all, each named
From the name of God have a greater share of Jamal Yousef even said by the Prophet (r) that give the splitting beauty.

Younis
Jonah
Division Name: Yeoh - Nah
And meaning (pigeon), which is (Greece) when people of the book; a prophet sent by God
Almighty to the people of Nineveh in Iraq and broadcasting in the belly of the whale for three days and nights.

Ayoub
Job
Division Name: U - hop
The mean (straight) any straight-talking guy who obey God always;
Which is a conductive bin Ayoub bin Razih bin Yahya bin Ishaq bin Ibrahim and demonstrated the meaning of righteousness
Which is the name of the patience of Job in the scourge
Which tests him by God.

Shoaib
Jethro
Division Name: No
And meaning (superior), a meat Wife of Moses, who was named one of his daughters
(Superior) because he was skillful in the care of sheep since he was young.

Moses
Moses
Division Name: Moh - cicada
And speaks Hebrew (Moshe) and means (Saviour) and after scrutiny at the origin of
Hebrew cod feast and found that (the Saviour) is as close to (honest).

Aaron
Aaron!
Division Name: Ah - Ran
And meaning (home of the Force) and said the people of Hebrew origin of the name is likely to be
Copts and that the impact on the mother of Moses and Aaron, peace be upon the Egyptian Environment
That inhabited by the children of Israel.

Elias
Elijah
Division Name: Lai - Gah
And meaning (the Lord God), Elias Ben Azar Ben-Eliezer Ben Aaron Ben-Omran
He was sent to the Prophet people who worship an idol name (Baal) and named it
City of Lebanon, a famous (Baalbek).

Joshua
Joshua
Division Name: Josh - is - Yeah
The boy called him Moses, Joshua Ben-Efraim Ben-Yaakov Ben
Isaac Ben Abraham mentioned by God in the Cave in the story
Greens in saying (Moses said to the girl will not give until I am about Bahrain
Or go eras) (60) Cave; and meaning (Jehovah is salvation)
And "Jehovah" is the name of the names of God among the Jews, therefore, find a team of
Teams to name Tzmt Christians who claimed they saw the Lord
As God spoke to Moses and they (Jehovah's Witnesses), and the meaning of the name Joshua close
The name of Christ, Aramaic (Yeah - Sus) or (Jesus), which means
(God save) and also (the funeral - Yeah) or (Isaiah), which means
(Salvation of the Lord) and Elisha, which means (God is my salvation), the conduct did
"Salvation" in all of these names indicates that the children of Israel suspend redemption
Real or the Salvation Intzeroh who were at the hands of the Messiah was signed
On! Hand of the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), who came law of the book guides you to the right
And draws people from the worship of slaves to worship the Lord of mankind and the sword of God supports
His close friends to his enemies.

Elisha
Elisha
Division Name: Eli - Yeah - commonly
And meaning (the Lord my Savior), a cousin Elias was succeeded in carrying the message to the people of Baalbek.

A rump
Ezekiel
Division Name: Zeke - Operator
It means (the power of God) As I mentioned earlier, (Operator) means God; and the Prophet is
Zulkifli is the same (Ezekiel) when the people of the book, one of the prisoners who were taken to Babylon, Iraq
What happened to the first falling Jerusalem (Jerusalem) 580 BC.

David
David
Division Name: Dai - delegations
And pronounced (Daviid) also means (the beloved) and called the novel Balmahbub fixed
Adam saw that the man of his descendants blond hair and blue eyes and said: O Lord, from this? God said:
This was born of your children, said Adam: How many live? And the Lord said: live sixty years, Adam said:
O Lord, Onsi his forty years of age did God, Fash Prophet David hundred
In full because Adam was called love for the other loved.

Solomon
Solomon
Division Name: shawl - Moh
Means (a man of peace) and (shawl) Shortcut (Shalom) any peace and also speaks
(Solomon) and was told that the fish (salmon), named after King
Solomon because it is "peaceful" among the rest of the fish.

Shmuel
Samuel
Division Name: sniff - U - Operator
, Which means "heard of God" has come out earlier meaning (Ishmael), which means "heard of God"
The names are very similar, and Shmuel is when the people of the Book (Samuel) and was a judge
And a prophet, a survey by David king over Israel at a time Talot, which is mentioned by
God has said: (Have you not seen the Chiefs of the Children of Israel after Moses, as they
The prophet of them send us a king to fight for the cause of Allah) (246) Al-Baqarah.

Jeremiah
Jeremiah
Division Name: Gary - Yeah - Mai - Yeah
And meaning (the Lord Ervni) and Alyahat provided are switching in Hebrew to glorify
The Lord Almighty.

Isaiah
Isaiah
Division Name: funeral - Yeoh
And its meaning (the salvation of Jehovah), which Isaiah the son of Amos is traveling in the Covenant
Of the pillars of the old Hebrew literature.

Nahmia
Nehemiah
Division Name: Nachim - Yeah
And meaning (comforter), which is similar to the name that launched by Christ in the Gospel of John
For Alvarakulait; When the people of the book speaks (Nehemiah), a prophet who commissioned
Led the Jews to Jerusalem (Jerusalem) after the exile.

Hocheaa
Hosea
Division Name: ha - the funeral
And meaning (salvation) and I have already said in the name of the prophet (Isaiah) in the division of Name
That "funeral" means of salvation and a distraction in the Hebrew language to replace the
(The) tariff is
Of the Prophets of Israel and when the people of the book is (Hosea).

Yoel
Joel
Division Name: Yeoh - Operator
And meaning (Jehovah is God) and already you have defined (Yeoh) as a shortcut
(Jehovah) and (subscriber) is Yahweh Vtkon combined: Joel, the view of
Love to prove that Jehovah is God.

Svani
Zephaniah
Division Name: falsely - Nier
And meaning (God forbid) and the significance of naming God forbid that a slave as long as
Person to cover himself, and when the people of the Book (Zephaniah).

Habakkuk
Habakkuk
Division Name: Wahab - KAMER
And meaning (hugs) and his name is the same when the people of the book.

Uzair
Ezra
Division Name: Ezer - Oh
It means (assistant) who said by some Jews that the Son of God because he
Rewrote the Bible is inspired by the Jews after the captivity of Babylon, which is
Fatality of God a hundred years, then revived and read out his statement in the verse (or the like over the
S Hiroshima is empty, said: "I pays tribute to God after death
God slew him and sent him one hundred years, he said, How to broadcast said broadcast a day or some
Once said, but soon the one hundred years, look to your food and your drink has not Itnoh
And look at your ass and make you a sign for people and look at how the bones
Nnczha then Nksoha meat when he found out he said I know that God has
All things) (259) Al-Baqarah.

Daniel
Daniel
Division Name: Danny - Operator
Means (Qdha God) any provision; and (subscriber) also reported mean (God) as the (House of Operator)
Which means (the house of God) and (Dan) spent a mean elimination of any provision
And not eliminate the inherent destiny.

Zakaria
Zachariah
Division Name: Zach - ah - Ray - Yeah
Means (God said) and the first part of his name (focused on) Approves the Arabic word (male)

Yahya
John
Division Name: U - crave e
And means (affectionate) and the first called by this name is Yahya bin Zakaria, and called
Immediately after one of the busiest students and disciples of Christ, and when the people of the Book Yahya
He (John), and thus differentiate between the people of the Book Yahya
Prophet Yahya and the student by saying from the first
(John the Baptist), who was baptized with water the Holy River Jordan.

Issa
Jesus
Division Name: Yeah - maimed
And means (God saves) and the Christian is (Jesus) and was the tongue of Christ
Aramaic was named the ancient Aramaic (Iaochua), and as Christianity came
Greece, his (Jesus The) and the Arabs entered the country became (ISA)

Muhammad peace and blessings
Mohammed
Praise from a recipe by the praise and praise and praise, praise is not only one time of the greatness of his actions, but nobody Kthiravsar Muhammad.
And also (Ahmed), Ahmed Al Hamidin absolutely no one like him a Ihamdallah
Last of the Prophets and Messengers and the sender of the Tkulain Alepeshrochwia and best nation on resurrection
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abdussattar
09-02-2010, 04:07 AM
Jazakallah!! so nice of you. Barakallah feekum
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جوري
09-02-2010, 05:18 AM
google is sort of grossly inaccurate though.. Insha'Allah I'll get to it at some point..

:w:
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Hiroshi
09-02-2010, 06:20 AM
Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ

you are so funny, did you read the post by Dr. Deedat?
Well, yes I did read it but didn't get a chance to reply to it yet. As you can see, you were mistaken in thinking that the name Jehovah didn't appear in your opening post.

"Jehovah" means: "He causes to become". This gives the sense that God causes himself to become whatever may be needed on behalf of his people. He becomes their rescuer, their deliverer, their helper, their guide, leader, king, law giver and so on. Rotheram's translation, if I may mention this, has God saying: "I Will Become whatsoever I please" when asked by Moses as to what God's name is.
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جوري
09-02-2010, 08:49 AM
Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ

No Jehova doesn't appear in the post..

here is an enlightening post about 'Jehova'

CHAPTER THREE - WHO IS JEHOVAH? (What is His Name - by Dr. Ahmed Deedat)
CHAPTER THREE
WHO IS JEHOVAH?
Astonishing as it may sound, it is an admitted fact that prior to the sixteenth century, the word "Jehovah," was unheard of. Whenever the origin of this word appeared in its true Hebrew form in Jewish Scriptures (read from right to left as in Arabic) Yet, Huh, Wav, Huh; or Y.H.W.H. these four letters were preceded by a substitute word "Adonai," to warn the reader that the following word was not to be articulated. The Jews took meticulous care in repeating this exercise in their "Book of God" six thousand, eight hundred and twenty-three times - interpolating the words "Adonai" or "Elohim." They sincerely believed that this awesome name of God was never to be pronounced. This prohibition was no ordinary affair: it called for a penalty of death on one who dared to utter it, and this taboo has been more successful than all the "DO's" and "DON'T's" of the Ten Commandments put together.
If Jehovah is the name of God Almighty, and if the 27 Books of the New Testament were inspired by Him, then it is an anomaly of the highest order, that He (Jehovah) signally failed to have His Own Name recorded in "His Word" (N.T.) the Christian addition to the Jewish Bible. The Christians claim that they have in their possession over twenty-four thousand so-called "originals" of their Holy Writ in the Greek language, and yet not a single parchment has "Jehovah" written in it. Curiously this "name of God" (?) has been sacrilegiously replaced by the Greek words ky'ri.os and the.os', which mean 'Lord' and 'God.' Yet, miracle of miracles - Alleluya! - no devil or saint has been able to eliminate the word "ALLAH" from the so-called New Testament of the Christians.
NEW FANGLED DOCTRINES
A hundred years ago, all of a sudden, more than a hundred new cults and denominations of Christiandom mushroomed in the United States of America. The Seventh Day Adventists, the Christian Scientists, the Menonites, the Christiadelphins, The Jehovah's Witnesses and the like. The founder of the last named cult, a Judge Rutherford, about whom the orthodox Christians say that he was no "Judge." This Judge was a voracious book-worm and a prolific writer. He stumbled across the word "Jehovah" which tickled him immensely, and he made a religion out of it.
Judge Rutherford, followed by Charles T. Russell created a new "church," which in its system of organisation and administration is second to none in the world. There is very much we Muslims can learn from their enthusiasm and methodology. Read, "Thirty Years a Watchtower Slave" by Schelin. It is not their theology I am enamoured with but their modus operandi (the way they operate). Read, how this incorrigible sect came very close to conquering Germany before Hitler. Read, about their second come- back in West Germany. Think, why they are making a most concerted effort in Nigeria. Will the system or religion that prevails in Nigeria, be utlimately the norm of the rest of Africa! This giant is the hero of the majority of the African people south of the Sahara. Muslims must reflect.
VIRILE SECT
The "Jehovah's Witnesses," have made the most phenominal progress of all the religious sects of the past hundred years, on a percentage basis. The Bahaies are moving at a snails-pace in comparison, actually receding in ratio with the other Christian off-shoots. These "Witnesses" are the fittest in their fight against the other Christians as well as against the Muslims. Simply because they programme themselves five times a week in their "Kingdom Halls," and what they learn they implement during the week-ends. We Muslims are supposed to be "programmed" five times a day in our daily Salaat, but we have lost the true purpose of this Pillar of Islam. Our Salaat is for earning Sawaab (spiritual blessings) only.
They have made the word JEHOVAH famous. They knock at people's doors, asking the question - "What is His Name?" The orthodox Christian replies - "God." They say, "God is not a name, it is an object of worship. What's His Name?" "Father," says the orthodox as a second try. "Is your father God?" Of course not! So what is His Name? "JEHOVAH! is His Name," says the "Witness" to both Muslims and non-Muslims alike. He has become a professor of this one word. He has made it into a religion.
THE "TETRAGRAMMATON"
Why not for a change ask him, a question or two. Ask him where he got the word Jehovah from? He will surely reply - "From the Holy Bible." What does it say? Does it spell out the word J-e-h-o-v-a-h? "No," he will reply. "There is a 'tetragrammaton' in the Bible from which the word Jehovah is derived." What is a tetragrammaton? No one seems to have heard this highly mystical term. In the University of Illinois in the U.S.A. I asked a gathering of students and lecturers whether any one had heard this jaw-breaker! Not one of them knew its meaning! But every Jehovah's Witness seems to know, even the commonest of them. They have really specialised - ours is a world of specialisation. They are Professors of the one word - Jehovah.
What then is a "tetragrammaton!" The Jehovah's Witness replies, "Y H W Hi!"
"No!" "What I want to know from you is, what does the word tetragrammaton mean?" You will find him most reluctant in explaining. Either he does not really know, or he is feeling embarrassed in replying. "Tetra," in Greek means FOUR, and "grammaton," means LETTERS. It simply means "a four letter word."
Can you read into Y H W H the word Jehovah? I cannot. "No!", says the Jehovah's Witness, "we ought to add vowels to these four consonents to produce the sound. Originally, both Hebrew and Arabic were written without the vowel signs The native of each language was able to read if even without those vowels. Not so the outsider, for whose benefit the vowels were invented.
THE "J" SICKNESS
Let us add the vowels as the "Witness" suggests. YHWH becomes YeHoWaH. Juggle as you like but you can never materialise Jehovah! Ask him, from which hat he drew his "J". He will tell you that "this is the 'popular' pronunciation from the 16th century." The exact sound of the four letters YHWH is known neither to the Jews nor to the Gentiles, yet he is ramming JEHOVAH down everyones throats. The European Christians have developed a fondness (sickness) for the letter "J" They add J's where there are no Jays. Look!
Yael he converts to Joel Yehuda to Juda Yeheshua to Joshua Yusuf to Joseph Yunus to Jonah Yesus to Jesus Yehowa to JehovahThere is no end to the Westerner's infatuation for the letter "J." Now in the busy streets of South Africa, he charges people who carelessly cross them for "jay-walking," but nobody charges him for converting Jewish (Yehudi) names into Gentile names.
The letters Y H W H occur in the Hebrew (Jewish) Scriptures 6 823 times, boasts the Jehovah's Witness, and it occurs in combination with the word "Elohim;" 156 times in the booklet called Genesis alone. This combination YHWH/ELOHIM has been consistently translated in the English Bible as "Lord God," "Lord God," Lord God," ad infinitum.
COMMON ORIGIN
What is YHWH; and what is ELOHIM? Since the lews did not articulate the word YHWH for centuries, and since even the Chief Rabbis would not allow the ineffable to be heard, they have forfeited the right to claim dogmatically how the word is to be sounded. We have to seek the aid of the Arab to revive Hebrew, a language which had once died out. In every linguistic difficulty recourse has to be made to Arabic, a sister language, which has remained alive and viable. Racially and linguistically, the Arabs and the Jews have a common origin, going back to Father Abraham.1
Note the startling resemblance between the languages, very often the same sounding words carry identical meaning in both.
HEBREW ARABIC ENGLISH Elah Ilah god Ikhud Ahud one Yaum Yaum day Shaloam Salaam peace Yahuwa Ya Huwa oh he
YHWH or Yehova or Yahuwa all mean the very same thing. "Ya" is a vocative and an exclamatory particle in both Hebrew and Arabic, meaning Oh! And "Huwa" or "Hu" means He, again in both Hebrew and Arabic. Together they mean Oh He! So instead of YHWH ELOHIM, we now have Oh He! ELOHIM.

http://www.jamaat.net/name/name3.html

so Jehova literally translates in Arabic and Hebrew to 'Oh he' -- sorry to disappoint you, I know you were hoping it is a secret name and all, but all it is, is a strange English concoction to calling out to God!

all the best
Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ

you are so funny, did you read the post by Dr. Deedat?

let me wrap it up for you in a sentence in case reading the entire post is too much of a challenge:

HEBREW ARABIC ENGLISH Elah Ilah god Ikhud Ahud one Yaum Yaum day Shaloam Salaam peace Yahuwa Ya Huwa oh he
YHWH or Yehova or Yahuwa all mean the very same thing. "Ya" is a vocative and an exclamatory particle in both Hebrew and Arabic, meaning Oh! And "Huwa" or "Hu" means He, again in both Hebrew and Arabic. Together they mean Oh He! So instead of YHWH ELOHIM, we now have Oh He! ELOHIM.


literally oh he -- you should in fact concentrate on the part in maroon highlighted below -- go ahead and use an Arabic dictionary for the etymology 'break down of the word ya huwa ''oh he elohim, hwa Allah'


يهوه هو الله
Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ
can't add to the post up without it being admixed with the Arabic..
but 'Jehova' isn't God's name, it is what you would use to call out to God, hope that clarifies it for you in the absolute most simplest terms.. it is in fact what you'd use to introduce God, or call out to God, rather than have it mean God!
the ئيل ending seems to always be missing from your 'Jehova' and that is the portion that actually references God.
yu ael
isra ael
isma ael


capisce?
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
Well, yes I did read it but didn't get a chance to reply to it yet. As you can see, you were mistaken in thinking that the name Jehovah didn't appear in your opening post.

"Jehovah" means: "He causes to become". This gives the sense that God causes himself to become whatever may be needed on behalf of his people. He becomes their rescuer, their deliverer, their helper, their guide, leader, king, law giver and so on. Rotheram's translation, if I may mention this, has God saying: "I Will Become whatsoever I please" when asked by Moses as to what God's name is.
You can render the English meaning of your choice, but you are not going to teach me Semitic tongue my mother language!

all the best
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Hiroshi
09-02-2010, 09:21 AM
Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ

You can render the English meaning of your choice, but you are not going to teach me Semitic tongue my mother language!

all the best
I am no Hebrew scholar but I am quite sure that you are wrong here. Yahweh or Jehovah isn't just some exclamation: "Oh, hey!" or similar. It really is God's personal name. And it is a verb meaning: "He causes to be".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

Wikipedia says:
The name is generally linked to a form of the Semitic word-stem HWY, conveying the idea of "being". (Semitic word-stems are groups of consonants around which vowels are arranged to form nouns and verbs). Both Amorite personal names and Greek transcriptions of the tetragrammaton suggest that the vocalization Yahweh is correct, and as such should be read as having derived from a causative verbal form ("x causes to be" or "he causes to be").
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جوري
09-02-2010, 09:31 AM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
I am no Hebrew scholar but I am quite sure that you are wrong here. Yahweh or Jehovah isn't just some exclamation: "Oh, hey!" or similar. It really is God's personal name. And it is a verb meaning: "He causes to be".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

Wikipedia says:
The name is generally linked to a form of the Semitic word-stem HWY, conveying the idea of "being". (Semitic word-stems are groups of consonants around which vowels are arranged to form nouns and verbs). Both Amorite personal names and Greek transcriptions of the tetragrammaton suggest that the vocalization Yahweh is correct, and as such should be read as having derived from a causative verbal form ("x causes to be" or "he causes to be").
you are right, you are no scholar, and I know that wiki caters to non-scholars.. remind me when I have the time to go edit that so that it reflects the appropriate meaning..

all the best
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Amat Allah
09-02-2010, 10:19 AM
:bism:

Yahweh means in Arabic : Ya Hayy or Ya Al-Hayy (O Ever-living) يا حَي or يا الحَي
Yahweh : Ya means (O or Oh) , hweh means Hayy or Al Hayy (its a calling upon The Living God)...

Both of you my dear sister and my respected and noble brother ,watch this vid and you will understand in shaa Allah...


May Allah lead your way to the path of the endless happiness Ameeeen
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Hiroshi
09-03-2010, 05:55 AM
Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ
Judge Rutherford, followed by Charles T. Russell created a new "church," which in its system of organisation and administration is second to none in the world. There is very much we Muslims can learn from their enthusiasm and methodology. Read, "Thirty Years a Watchtower Slave" by Schelin. It is not their theology I am enamoured with but their modus operandi (the way they operate). Read, how this incorrigible sect came very close to conquering Germany before Hitler. Read, about their second come- back in West Germany. Think, why they are making a most concerted effort in Nigeria. Will the system or religion that prevails in Nigeria, be utlimately the norm of the rest of Africa! This giant is the hero of the majority of the African people south of the Sahara. Muslims must reflect.
VIRILE SECT
The "Jehovah's Witnesses," have made the most phenominal progress of all the religious sects of the past hundred years, on a percentage basis. The Bahaies are moving at a snails-pace in comparison, actually receding in ratio with the other Christian off-shoots. These "Witnesses" are the fittest in their fight against the other Christians as well as against the Muslims. Simply because they programme themselves five times a week in their "Kingdom Halls," and what they learn they implement during the week-ends. We Muslims are supposed to be "programmed" five times a day in our daily Salaat, but we have lost the true purpose of this Pillar of Islam. Our Salaat is for earning Sawaab (spiritual blessings) only.
This says some really nice things about us. Whenever I get discouraged and downhearted I will read it again to cheer myself up. Thanks.
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Hiroshi
09-03-2010, 06:37 AM
Originally Posted by Amat Allah
:bism:

Yahweh means in Arabic : Ya Hayy or Ya Al-Hayy (O Ever-living) يا حَي or يا الحَي
Yahweh : Ya means (O or Oh) , hweh means Hayy or Al Hayy (its a calling upon The Living God)...

Both of you my dear sister and my respected and noble brother ,watch this vid and you will understand in shaa Allah...


May Allah lead your way to the path of the endless happiness Ameeeen
May thanks, Amat Allah. Yufuf Estes is a marvelous character and very likeable.

I noticed that he said that Allah is the name that the author of the Qur'an gives himself. Now that strikes me as odd. I don't believe that God in the Bible ever says: "My name is God." Does the Qur'an ever explicitly say that Allah is a name? The only reference that I could find was Surah 2:224. This verse seems to say that Allah has a name but doesn't tell us what it is.
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جوري
09-03-2010, 08:51 AM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
May thanks, Amat Allah. Yufuf Estes is a marvelous character and very likeable.

I noticed that he said that Allah is the name that the author of the Qur'an gives himself. Now that strikes me as odd. I don't believe that God in the Bible ever says: "My name is God." Does the Qur'an ever explicitly say that Allah is a name? The only reference that I could find was Surah 2:224. This verse seems to say that Allah has a name but doesn't tell us what it is.
1. Allah
2. al-Rahman (The Compassionate)
3. al-Rahim (The Merciful)
4. al-Malik (The King, The Sovereign)
5. al-Quddus (The Holy)
6. al-Salam (The Author of Safety)
7. al-Mu'min (The Giver of Peace)
8. al-Muhaimin (The Protector)
9. al-'Aziz (The Strong)
10. al-Jabbar (The Compeller)
11. al-Mutakabbir (The Majestic)
12. al-Khaliq (The Creator)
13. al-Bari (The Maker)
14. al-Musawwir (The Fashioner)
15. al-Ghaffar (The Great Forgiver)
16. al-Qahhar (The Dominant)
17. al-Wahhab (The Bestower)
18. al-Razzaq (The Sustainer)
19. al-Fattah (The Opener, The Reliever, The Judge)
20. al-'Alim (The All-Knowing)
21. al-Qabid (The Retainer, The Withholder)
22. al-Basit (The Enlarger)
23. al-Khafid (The Pleaser)
24. al-Rafi' (The Elevator)
25. al-Mu'izz (The Honourer)
26. al-Mudhill (The Humiliator)
27. al-Sami' (The All-Hearing, the Hearer)
28. al-Basir (The All-Seeing)
29. al-Hakam (The Judge)
30. al-'Adl (The Just)
31. al-Latif (The Subtle)
32. al-Khabir (The Gracious, The Aware)
33. al-Halim (The Clement, The Forebearing)
34. al-'Azim (The Mighty)
35. al-Ghafur (The Forgiving)
36. al-Shakur (The Grateful, The Appreciative)
37. al-'Aliyy (The High, The Sublime)
38. al-Kabir (The Great)
39. al-Hafiz (The Preserver/Protector) [see Qur'an 42:6]
40. al-Muqit (The Protector, The Guardian, The Feeder, The Sustainer)
41. al-Hasib (The Reckoner)
42. al-Jalil (The Beneficent)
43. al-Karim (The Bountiful, The Gracious)
44. al-Raqib (The Watcher, The Watchful)
45. al-Mujib (The Responsive, The Hearkener)
46. al-Wasi' (The Vast, The All-Embracing)
47. al-Hakim al-Mutlaq (The Judge of Judges)
48. al-Wadud (The Loving)
49. al-Majid (The Glorious)
50. al-Ba'ith (The Raiser [from death], The True)
51. al-Shahid (The Witness)
52. al-Haqq (The Truth, The True)
53. al-Wakil (The Trustee)
54. al-Qawiyy (The Strong)
55. al-Matin (The Firm)
56. al-Waliyy (The Protecting Friend)
57. al-Hamid (The Praiseworthy)
58. al-Muhsi (The Counter)
59. al-Mubdi (The Originator)
60. al-Mu'id (The Reproducer)
61. al-Muhyi (The Restorer, The Giver of Life)
62. al-Mumit (The Destroyer)
63. al-Hayy (The Alive)
64. al-Qayyum (The Self-Subsisting)
65. al-Wajid (The Perceiver)
66. al-Wahid (The One)
67. al-Samad (The Independent)
68. al-Qadir (The Capable)
69. al-Muqtadir (The Dominant)
70. al-Muqaddim (The Promoter)
71. al-Mu'akhkhir (The Retarder)
72. al-Awwal (The First)
73. al-Akhir (The Last)
74. al-Zahir (The Manifest)
75. al-Batin (The Hidden)
76. al-Wali (The Governor)
77. al-Muta'ali (The High Exalted)
78. al-Barr (The Righteous)
79. al-Tawwab (The Relenting)
80. al-'Afuww (The Forgiver)
81. al-Muntaqim (The Avenger)
82. al-Ra'uf (The Compassionate)
83. Malik al-Mulk (The Owner of Sovereignty)
84. Dhu'l Jalal wa'l-Ikram (The Lord of Majesty and Bounty)
85. al-Muqsit (The Equitable)
86. al-Jami (The Gatherer, The Collector)
87. al-Ghani (The Self-Sufficient)
88. al-Mughni (The Enricher)
89. al-Mu'ti (The Bestower, The Giver)
90. al-Mani' (The Withholder)
91. al-Nafi' (The Propitious)
92. al-Darr (The Distresser)
93. al-Nur (The Light)
94. al-Hadi (The Guide)
95. al-Azuli (The Eternal)
96. al-Baqi (The Everlasting)
97. al-Warith (The Heir)
98. al-Rashid (The Guide to the Right Path)
99. al-Sabur (The Patient)


those are the names of God that we know.. and there are those that we don't.. you are so apt at quoting ahadith and Quran, how about sitting down and reading then before you come argue with us?
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جوري
09-03-2010, 08:54 AM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
This says some really nice things about us. Whenever I get discouraged and downhearted I will read it again to cheer myself up. Thanks.
That is indeed more important than being on the path of the righteous!

all the best
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Hiroshi
09-03-2010, 11:15 AM
Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ

1. Allah
2. al-Rahman (The Compassionate)
3. al-Rahim (The Merciful)
4. al-Malik (The King, The Sovereign)
5. al-Quddus (The Holy)
6. al-Salam (The Author of Safety)
7. al-Mu'min (The Giver of Peace)
8. al-Muhaimin (The Protector)
9. al-'Aziz (The Strong)

.....

those are the names of God that we know.. and there are those that we don't.. you are so apt at quoting ahadith and Quran, how about sitting down and reading then before you come argue with us?
Peace, The Vales Lily.

I believe that Al-Bukhari and Muslim record Muhammed as saying that Allah has 99 names but they both do not include a listing.

There is a hadith that does include the listing that you give here but I have read that many scholars reject it as "weak".

See:
http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=67

Aside from this "weak" hadith I cannot see any statement anywhere saying that "Allah" is a name. Is there anything more?
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جوري
09-03-2010, 11:20 AM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
Peace, The Vales Lily.

I believe that Al-Bukhari and Muslim record Muhammed as saying that Allah has 99 names but they both do not include a listing.

There is a hadith that does include the listing that you give here but I have read that many scholars reject it as "weak".

See:
http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=67

Aside from this "weak" hadith I cannot see any statement anywhere saying that "Allah" is a name. Is there anything more?
:lol:
These are the names God used to describe his being in the Quran..
here is an example:



hmmmmmmm should I take the living word of God or some random site you googled (which btw I didn't even bother look at)
further I have stated that God has more than 99 names.. 99 simply happen to be those that we know of as they are dispersed all throughout the Quran, whether the hadith is weak or not!

all the best
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Insaanah
09-03-2010, 11:22 AM
28:30 But when he came to it, he was called from the right side of the valley in a blessed spot - from the tree, "O Moses, Verily I am Allah , Lord of the worlds."
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abdussattar
09-03-2010, 12:16 PM
Aaaaaaaaaaaah so many long posts I cant read them!

Can someone explain who is Jehova in one or two small paragraphs? Jazakallah
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Hiroshi
09-03-2010, 01:28 PM
Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ
hmmmmmmm should I take the living word of God or some random site you googled (which btw I didn't even bother look at)
further I have stated that God has more than 99 names.. 99 simply happen to be those that we know of as they are dispersed all throughout the Quran, whether the hadith is weak or not!

all the best
It seems that I cannot post any more replies to the "Important Request Jehovas Witnesses" thread. Have the moderators put a stop to the discussion? If so, won't they probably do the same to this thread? Maybe we should put this on hold and return to it later.
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Amat Allah
09-03-2010, 01:41 PM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
May thanks, Amat Allah. Yufuf Estes is a marvelous character and very likeable. I noticed that he said that Allah is the name that the author of the Qur'an gives himself. Now that strikes me as odd. I don't believe that God in the Bible ever says: "My name is God." Does the Qur'an ever explicitly say that Allah is a name? The only reference that I could find was Surah 2:224. This verse seems to say that Allah has a name but doesn't tell us what it is.

:bism:


You are very wellcome my respected and noble brother...

May Allah give you the best of this life and of the hereafter...Ameeen

and yes ,you are right May Allah bless Yusuf Estes and be pleased with him ...Ameen

as our precious sister Insaanah mentioned above

Originally Posted by Insaanah
28:30 But when he came to it, he was called from the right side of the valley in a blessed spot - from the tree, "O Moses, Verily I am Allah , Lord of the worlds."



and

In Surat Al Baqarah (2:255):

اللَّـهُ لَا إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ ۚ لَا تَأْخُذُهُ سِنَةٌ وَلَا نَوْمٌ ۚ لَّهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ
وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ ۗ مَن ذَا الَّذِي يَشْفَعُ عِندَهُ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِهِ ۚ يَعْلَمُ مَا بَيْنَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمَا
خَلْفَهُمْ ۖ وَلَا يُحِيطُونَ بِشَيْءٍ مِّنْ عِلْمِهِ إِلَّا بِمَا شَاءَ ۚ وَسِعَ كُرْسِيُّهُ السَّمَاوَاتِ "وَالْأَرْضَ ۖ وَلَا يَئُودُهُ حِفْظُهُمَا ۚ وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْعَظِيمُ


"Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (there is no deity except Him has the right to be worshipped), the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great."

[This Verse 2:255 is called Ayat-ul-Kursi.]

at the begining of this verse here saying there is no god but Allah (the Only One deserves to Be worshipped Alone)

(Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa) its like saying : God, there is no god but Him

and to make you understand more let me put your name in an example by Allah`s willing:


Hiroshi, la nasrani huna illa huwa

Hiroshi, there is no christian here but him

isn`t it clear here that Hiroshi is a name and we are talking about someone his name is Hiroshi?

got the meaning my noble brother?



and this is a proof that the word Allah is a name my respected brother and it is not the only one ,cause if you read the Qur`aan you will find many names and attributes of Allah, Who belongs to Him all Might and Majesty...

as you see in the rest of the verse above too...

and

like here (59: 22,23,24) :

"هُوَ اللَّـهُ الَّذِي لَا إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ۖ عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ وَالشَّهَادَةِ ۖ هُوَ الرَّحْمَـٰنُ الرَّحِيمُ ﴿٢٢﴾ هُوَ اللَّـهُ الَّذِي لَا إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ الْمَلِكُ الْقُدُّوسُ السَّلَامُ الْمُؤْمِنُ الْمُهَيْمِنُ الْعَزِيزُ الْجَبَّارُ
الْمُتَكَبِّرُ ۚ سُبْحَانَ اللَّـهِ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ ﴿٢٣﴾ هُوَ اللَّـهُ الْخَالِقُ الْبَارِئُ الْمُصَوِّرُ ۖ لَهُ الْأَسْمَاءُ الْحُسْنَىٰ ۚ يُسَبِّحُ لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ ۖ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ ﴿٢٤ "

"He is the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful. (22) He is Allah than Whom there is La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He) the King, the Holy, the One Free from all defects, the Giver of security, the Watcher over His creatures, the All-Mighty, the Compeller, the Supreme. Glory be to Allah! (High is He) above all that they associate as partners with Him. (23) He is Allah, the Creator, the Inventor of all things, the Bestower of forms. To Him belong the Best Names. All that is in the heavens and the earth glorify Him. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise. (24) "

and not to forget that "Allah" is the same word used by Christian Arabs and Jewish Arabs in their Bible, centuries before Islam came.

The word "Allah" is the perfect description of the "One God" of monotheism for Jews, Christians and Muslims!

Is "Allah" only for Islam and Muslims?
[No! It is for All Three Abrahamic Faiths.]

On page one [1] of Genesis in the Old Testament, we find the word "Allah" seventeen [17] times.

"Allah" comes from the Arabic word "elah"a god' or something worshiped. - (Arabic) means '

This word (elah) can be made plural (gods), as in "aleha" and it can be male or female just as the word in English can be "goddess."

"Allah" comes from "elaha" but it brings more clarification and understanding.

Allah = Has no gender (not male and not female)
"He" is used only out of respect and dignity - not for gender

Allah = Always singular - Never plural
"We" is used only as the "Royal WE" just as in English for royalty

Allah = Means "The Only One to be Worshipped"

then surely Allah Is A Name and not any name but The Name of The Only God Has right To Be Worshipped alone with no partners ,The God and Lord of Muslims, Christians, Jewish, all people from other beliefs and every living and non...

I hope that will understand my respected brother...

want to know more visit this website:

http://godallah.com/

May Allah be with you , make you from the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind and lead your way to the peath of the endless happiness...Ameen

please if there is any Q, don`t hesitate to ask whatever you want whenever you want and by Allah`s willing ,will try my best to make you understand...ok?

leaving you under Allah`s sight and care...

with all my respect, your sister:

Amat Allah
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Ramadhan
09-03-2010, 03:50 PM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
Peace, The Vales Lily.

I believe that Al-Bukhari and Muslim record Muhammed as saying that Allah has 99 names but they both do not include a listing.

There is a hadith that does include the listing that you give here but I have read that many scholars reject it as "weak".

See:
http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=67

Aside from this "weak" hadith I cannot see any statement anywhere saying that "Allah" is a name. Is there anything more?

Allah SWT revealed His 99 names throughout the Qur'an.
I'm surprised that you didn't know this well-established fact, as I see you keep churning out those misinterpreted verses and hadiths.
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ابن آل مرة
09-03-2010, 04:32 PM
When the ignorant are stubborn on their fact less arguements, say Salam, and be harsh towards the kuffar.
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Hiroshi
09-03-2010, 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Amat Allah

as our precious sister Insaanah mentioned above

28:30 But when he came to it, he was called from the right side of the valley in a blessed spot - from the tree, "O Moses, Verily I am Allah , Lord of the worlds."
Okay. In the Bible's account of this incident exactly the same thing happens. When Moses comes to the burning bush, the one speaking to him declares himself to be God.

But then Moses asks God what his name is. And God tells Moses that his name is Jehovah. God then adds: "This is my name forever." This is in Exodus 3:15.

I fully expect that no one on this thread will have any regard for what the Bible has to say. But I mention this to show you my own point of view here. After God introduced himself as "God", or "Allah" in Arabic, Moses still inquired as to what God's name was. This tells me that God's name was not "Allah".

I hope that I haven't broken all the rules by citing a Bible scripture.
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جوري
09-03-2010, 09:29 PM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
Okay. In the Bible's account of this incident exactly the same thing happens. When Moses comes to the burning bush, the one speaking to him declares himself to be God.

But then Moses asks God what his name is. And God tells Moses that his name is Jehovah. God then adds: "This is my name forever." This is in Exodus 3:15.

I fully expect that no one on this thread will have any regard for what the Bible has to say. But I mention this to show you my own point of view here. After God introduced himself as "God", or "Allah" in Arabic, Moses still inquired as to what God's name was. This tells me that God's name was not "Allah".

I hope that I haven't broken all the rules by citing a Bible scripture.
what language did god speak? did he speak English? Latin? Hebrew, Aramaic?
Why not ask the Jews what they call God, do they refer to him as 'Jehova'? ''Oh he?''
I mean if you are monolithic in your beliefs, don't expect others to acquiesce to your understanding, it makes you seem all the more uneducated..if that is at all possible..

all the best
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Hiroshi
09-04-2010, 09:02 AM
Originally Posted by abdussattar
Aaaaaaaaaaaah so many long posts I cant read them!

Can someone explain who is Jehova in one or two small paragraphs? Jazakallah
God.

We all agree on that, right?
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Hiroshi
09-04-2010, 09:13 AM
Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ

what language did god speak? did he speak English? Latin? Hebrew, Aramaic?
Why not ask the Jews what they call God, do they refer to him as 'Jehova'? ''Oh he?''
I mean if you are monolithic in your beliefs, don't expect others to acquiesce to your understanding, it makes you seem all the more uneducated..if that is at all possible..

all the best
God surely spoke to Moses in Hebrew on that occasion. I will do as you suggest and ask the Jews what they call God and what the name means.

I don't expect you to acquiesce to my understanding. I wanted to find out what you believe and why. And I think I have done that. I have learned more about Islam in just a few weeks on Islamic Board than I have learned during years of discussions with people in my neighborhood.
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جوري
09-04-2010, 09:23 AM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
God surely spoke to Moses in Hebrew on that occasion. I will do as you suggest and ask the Jews what they call God and what the name means.
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Great.. glad we are in concordance, if you don't like it broken down etymologically on Arabic, then let it be broken down to you in Hebrew.. perhaps then you'd see that the concoction you value is nothing but a man-made heretical sect of an already questionable monolithic religion!

I believe based on knowledge that is sound as well based on faith.. blind faith in totality will render men blind!

all the best
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Muslim Woman
09-04-2010, 11:43 AM
Salaam Alaykum

some sections / threads are closed for holy Ramadan . But what's the benifit of that if participants keep arguing in others threads ? :(
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aadil77
09-04-2010, 12:08 PM
Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
Salaam Alaykum

some sections / threads are closed for holy Ramadan . But what's the benifit of that if participants keep arguing in others threads ? :(
can't really do much, non-muslims need their misconceptions answering during ramadhan as well
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Amat Allah
09-04-2010, 12:12 PM
the King James Version (used here) designates the Hebrew name Jehovah (or Yahweh) with "LORD" spelled with all letters capitalized; Adonai, meaning "Lord" or "Master," is designated by "Lord;" and "Elohim," is translated as "God." Thus, in Duet. 4:35, for example, the phrase "the LORD he is God," would be literally translated, "Jehovah, he is Elohim." (In those instances were Adonai is used as a compound with Jehovah, the latter term is spelled GOD, so that the compound name "Lord GOD" designates the Hebrew, "Adonai Jehovah").

Jehovah is the same as Yahweh and that explained above in post number 24...

anyway,Allah doesn`t have only one name but many names and attributes (All Praise and Glory Be to Allah) and
it is completely wrong to ask what is the real name of Allah? cause its like asking what is the real color of the rainbow
(wise words I read for a christian writer )...

I do not believe that (Jesus peace be upon him ) is God or the son of God ( All Praise be to Allah) but what I read here is so wise and logic and the writer is a christian...

so here you are my respected brother Hiroshi read your brother in faith post:

http://www.revelation.co/2009/05/12/...-yahweh-allah/

May Allah be with you Ameeen
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Hiroshi
09-05-2010, 11:22 AM
Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ

Great.. glad we are in concordance, if you don't like it broken down etymologically on Arabic, then let it be broken down to you in Hebrew.. perhaps then you'd see that the concoction you value is nothing but a man-made heretical sect of an already questionable monolithic religion!

I believe based on knowledge that is sound as well based on faith.. blind faith in totality will render men blind!

all the best
Monolith means: "one stone". What do you mean by a "monolithic" religion?
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Hiroshi
09-05-2010, 11:37 AM
Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
Salaam Alaykum

some sections / threads are closed for holy Ramadan . But what's the benifit of that if participants keep arguing in others threads ? :(
I am not seeking a argument. I am trying to avoid any controversy here. I only asked: where, if at all, does the Qur'an state that Allah is a name? And the answer has been covered.
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Hiroshi
09-05-2010, 11:59 AM
Originally Posted by Amat Allah
the King James Version (used here) designates the Hebrew name Jehovah (or Yahweh) with "LORD" spelled with all letters capitalized; Adonai, meaning "Lord" or "Master," is designated by "Lord;" and "Elohim," is translated as "God." Thus, in Duet. 4:35, for example, the phrase "the LORD he is God," would be literally translated, "Jehovah, he is Elohim." (In those instances were Adonai is used as a compound with Jehovah, the latter term is spelled GOD, so that the compound name "Lord GOD" designates the Hebrew, "Adonai Jehovah").

Jehovah is the same as Yahweh and that explained above in post number 24...

anyway,Allah doesn`t have only one name but many names and attributes (All Praise and Glory Be to Allah) and (wise words I read for a christian writer )...

I do not believe that (Jesus peace be upon him ) is God or the son of God ( All Praise be to Allah) but what I read here is so wise and logic and the writer is a christian...

so here you are my respected brother Hiroshi read your brother in faith post:

http://www.revelation.co/2009/05/12/...-yahweh-allah/

May Allah be with you Ameeen
Thanks. I had a look at your link. God is called lots of things, both in the Qur'an and in the Bible. But I would give this final comment that "Jehovah" (or "Yahweh") occurs nearly 7,000 times in the Bible. This is many more times than any other Bible name. And the term "God" only occurs 4,473 times -- far fewer times than "Jehovah". It goes against all the evidence to say that "Jehovah" is a word of little importance, as some have insisted.

Anyway my respected friends, let us please drop the discussion until after Ramadan.
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abdussattar
09-05-2010, 01:37 PM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
Monolith means: "one stone". What do you mean by a "monolithic" religion?
Monolithic religion means a religion with one god.(I think)
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Woodrow
09-05-2010, 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by abdussattar

Monolithic religion means a religion with one god.(I think)
Monotheistic means one God. Monolithic means one stone. The confusion comes about as some religions use the term monolithic to mean they have a single foundation. But, technically the term Monolith as used by them would mean they only worship one stone idol.


To clarify better (or confuse more)

The gigantic obelisks in Egypt are monoliths as they were carved from a single stone. The Pyramids are polylithic as they are made of many stones.

Poly= Greek for many

Mono=Greek for one

Lithos= Greek for stone

Theos=Greek for god
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Woodrow
09-05-2010, 02:01 PM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
Anyway my respected friends, let us please drop the discussion until after Ramadan.
I agree

:threadclo:
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Woodrow
09-05-2010, 02:06 PM
Now let us return to the original topic and stay on topic which was about the names of the Prophets(PBUT)
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جوري
09-05-2010, 03:31 PM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
Monolith means: "one stone". What do you mean by a "monolithic" religion?
It isn't really difficult to apply an abstract thought here? a Monolithic religion is one that doesn't share common ground with any other, like Zoroastrianism-- you can't for instance allege to be an Abrahamic religion and have positively nothing in common with other Abrahamic religions.
Not in the name of God, or the number of God, the rituals practiced etc.

Christianity in essence is a monolithic religion that has nothing in common with the path of Abraham, further compounded by the calamities of a thousand heretical sect, from which you represent one even more distilled in its monolithic beliefs!



Hope that breaks it down to its most singular components for you!

all the best
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جوري
09-05-2010, 04:26 PM
Originally Posted by Hiroshi
Thanks. I had a look at your link. God is called lots of things, both in the Qur'an and in the Bible. But I would give this final comment that "Jehovah" (or "Yahweh") occurs nearly 7,000 times in the Bible. This is many more times than any other Bible name. And the term "God" only occurs 4,473 times -- far fewer times than "Jehovah". It goes against all the evidence to say that "Jehovah" is a word of little importance, as some have insisted.

Anyway my respected friends, let us please drop the discussion until after Ramadan.
:lol:
Don't you think that little pearl 'oh he' as the sacred name wouldn't have been lost on nearly four billion people (the sum of Muslims/Christians/Jews) of which you are a negligent 7 million?
You can't answer the question of what language your god spoke, you haven't addressed Dr. Deedat's post on page one, and you haven't bothered read direct verses from the Quran, where Allah swt calls himself Allah (or other names listed) and you have the audacity to protest that your queries haven't been answered?
You should reflect back and seek to understand why you are showing so much resistance in spite of the overwhelming response to you including from other Christians.

good luck with all of that!
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