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Amoeba
10-14-2010, 04:39 PM
I have never been able to belch since I was little, and this causes a lot of gas and discomfort. The doctor says it's all psychological because I used to be emetophobic and there's nothing physically preventing me from belching. I tried explaining that I was only afraid of other people being sick, I was never afraid of being sick myself, and she said it's still the most likely cause and that if it's not impeding on my daily life (which it isn't) then it's a non-issue.

However I would still like to belch because I get these embarrassing gargling noises in my throat almost every day (I'm guessing air trying to escape) and a lot of wind from the other end which can either be loud or very occasionally cause bloating discomfort. I also break wudu a lot as a result.

So does anybody have any tips or recommendations to learn how to belch so that I may have some relief? Thanks.
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S.Belle
10-14-2010, 04:45 PM
i've wondered myself how some people just belch on command and so loudly

http://www.wikihow.com/Burp

maybe you should try after you have ate or drunk something...unless you're like me and the only thing you do is hicup lol
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Amoeba
10-14-2010, 04:50 PM
Asalam alaykum,

Thanks, I will try that. I don't have any carbonated drinks at home because I can't release the gas and I only end up feeling sick for hours (the inability to burp isn't just confined to voluntary burp, it's all burps full stop), but I'll try mixing some baking soda with water, I hear the effect is similar.
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Amoeba
10-14-2010, 04:55 PM
Ohh... I feel sick. It's not working. :( I'm still getting strange bubbling gargling noises in my throat too, the air is trying to escape but it gets so far and goes back down again. I'm trying to force it out too by tensing and relaxing my throat and stomach whilst avoiding gagging, it pushes the gas bubbles a bit but they only get so far and I feel all this pressure in my throat.
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S.Belle
10-14-2010, 05:01 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Amoeba
Ohh... I feel sick. It's not working. :( I'm still getting strange bubbling gargling noises in my throat too, the air is trying to escape but it gets so far and goes back down again. I'm trying to force it out too by tensing and relaxing my throat and stomach whilst avoiding gagging, it pushes the gas bubbles a bit but they only get so far and I feel all this pressure in my throat.
ok so the air goes back down i think you are about half way there
this happens to me sometimes you have to force the air out
what i do is open my mouth and literally force the burp out (kinda like when you gag) the way your throat kinda opens.
Just force it out.....maybe we should just get a bro to tell us they seem so good at belching lol
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S.Belle
10-14-2010, 05:04 PM
try this

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جوري
10-14-2010, 05:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Amoeba
because I used to be emetophobic
ha? Even if you have this odd fear of vomiting, if there were an organic reason for you to vomit it will be a reflex that isn't controlled by your person. Anymore than you can hold your urine forever out of fear of urinating in public.

There are a few medical causes to not being able to belch and I doubt that you have one or either of them. For instance did you have a Nissen fundopliction? The air that you have in your upper GI will travel down and come out the opposite end anyway.. I have to admit that this is the oddest thread I have encountered outside of the squatting to poop one!
you can try either simithicone or alka seltzer for the air to come out one end or the other.. but you should visit a GI specialist for this, again the forum isn't a place to seek medical advise, in case you do have an actual malady!

and Allah swt knows best

:w:
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Amoeba
10-14-2010, 05:34 PM
GI specialist... is that a gastrointestinal specialist? Just checking, I need to know who to ask for.

Truth be told I have found lots and lots of people on the internet with the exact same non-burping problem, but absolutely no solutions or even possible causes. In the past few minutes I have just discovered that it's not even recognised as a condition. Apparently other people have had worse experiences than myself with it, such as pain and inability to swallow things whole like pills, or really sensitive gag reflex (my gag reflex is opposite, very insensitive). But some people have managed to re-learn how to burp and I thought I'd try that.
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Dagless
10-14-2010, 05:44 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Amoeba
GI specialist... is that a gastrointestinal specialist? Just checking, I need to know who to ask for.

Truth be told I have found lots and lots of people on the internet with the exact same non-burping problem, but absolutely no solutions or even possible causes. In the past few minutes I have just discovered that it's not even recognised as a condition. Apparently other people have had worse experiences than myself with it, such as pain and inability to swallow things whole like pills, or really sensitive gag reflex (my gag reflex is opposite, very insensitive). But some people have managed to re-learn how to burp and I thought I'd try that.
So many jokes to make... no... must... stop...
Hmm anyway as for burping, you should just try drinking a can of pepsi (I typed coke first but then remembered I'm boycotting Israel) then try to puke. Do it on your own so it won't matter if you follow through and actually puke. That way at least you'll know when to stop next time.
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Amoeba
10-14-2010, 05:50 PM
Hm... not healthy to make yourself puke needlessly. Only time I do that is when I really need to, since I can't puke by reflex I have to stick my fingers down my throat.

I must admit though there have been times when I've felt so much pressure in my oesophagus I did that with very loud consequences (and no puke). It can build up to the point of causing a lot of pressure so I do need to do that VERY rarely. Like once or twice a year.
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'Abd-al Latif
10-14-2010, 06:33 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Amoeba
However I would still like to belch because I get these embarrassing gargling noises in my throat almost every day (I'm guessing air trying to escape) and a lot of wind from the other end which can either be loud or very occasionally cause bloating discomfort.
:haha:

This has to be the funniest thing I've heard all day.

My advice is to drink fizzy drinks and then let it out somewhere where you will be alone to gain confidence and not to be caught in an embarrassing situation. I recommend only practising in your room where you can belch as loud as you want so you can practise in peace as well as to learn to control the noise level.

Think of the bright side to this, at least you won't have to redo your wudu by letting out an accidental fart at a wrong time, like letting one lose during a sneeze.

P.S

You may need this sign outside your door.

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Amoeba
10-14-2010, 06:50 PM
Problem is no matter how much fizzy drinks I drink I can't belch. I don't think it's a shyness problem, rather it's like I've got this tension in my throat that won't let the gas escape from my mouth. No matter how much I want it to.

Ow it's starting to hurt... Like having sore hiccups except you're not hiccupping. It's not funny. >: (
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'Abd-al Latif
10-14-2010, 07:37 PM
I do apologise if I seemed a bit insensitive, I just wanted to have a bit of a laugh.

It's like your doctor said, it's only a psychological problem because of modesty. This is why I said if you give it a go a few times on your own, actually trying to burp in solitude may make it easier for you.

format_quote Originally Posted by Amoeba
Problem is no matter how much fizzy drinks I drink I can't belch. I don't think it's a shyness problem, rather it's like I've got this tension in my throat that won't let the gas escape from my mouth. No matter how much I want it to.

Ow it's starting to hurt... Like having sore hiccups except you're not hiccupping. It's not funny. >: (
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Amoeba
10-14-2010, 07:52 PM
I was kind of joking too, if I was serious I wouldn't have used a smiley. :)

I can definitely assure you though, there is no modesty getting in the way of me belching. As far as I see it it's a perfectly natural process, and although I would avoid it in public if I could do it, if one slipped out by accident I wouldn't be the slightest bit embarrassed (I'd just say pardon me or something). Psychological issue? I have no idea, but definitely not in the sense that I'm afraid or embarrassed to do it. I've been in solitude all evening and nothing is working. This is the worst it's ever been, I've never actually experienced pain from it before.

Funny thing is when I feel it coming, I open my mouth and I get a really loud gargle I can feel pushing up my throat, I try to squeeze it out with my stomach and throat muscles but then it stops just about level with my larynx and I feel this pain that feels like stretching and then the air just goes back down my throat. It's starting to feel like I have this constant big bubble in my throat.
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PouringRain
10-14-2010, 07:52 PM
I do not burp either (although it does not bother me not to, as it bothers you).

Could you try eliminating gaseous foods from your diet?

format_quote Originally Posted by Amoeba
but I'll try mixing some baking soda with water, I hear the effect is similar.
The taste of that is just horrible. If I have to gag down alka seltzer or baking soda water, then I want to vomit. LOL I prefer to buy gripe water. Yum yum.
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'Abd-al Latif
10-14-2010, 08:40 PM
If what you say was truly the case then you wouldn't have problems belching or farting in public. Modesty is a branch of faith so you shouldn't feel the need to prove yourself different.

format_quote Originally Posted by Amoeba
I was kind of joking too, if I was serious I wouldn't have used a smiley. :)

I can definitely assure you though, there is no modesty getting in the way of me belching. As far as I see it it's a perfectly natural process, and although I would avoid it in public if I could do it, if one slipped out by accident I wouldn't be the slightest bit embarrassed (I'd just say pardon me or something). Psychological issue? I have no idea, but definitely not in the sense that I'm afraid or embarrassed to do it. I've been in solitude all evening and nothing is working. This is the worst it's ever been, I've never actually experienced pain from it before.

Funny thing is when I feel it coming, I open my mouth and I get a really loud gargle I can feel pushing up my throat, I try to squeeze it out with my stomach and throat muscles but then it stops just about level with my larynx and I feel this pain that feels like stretching and then the air just goes back down my throat. It's starting to feel like I have this constant big bubble in my throat.
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Cabdullahi
10-14-2010, 09:24 PM
Madame if you want to belch.....just drink some bin juice or sewer drink...and you'll be belching in no time its probably going to smell really bad so just cover your nose voila!
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Amoeba
10-14-2010, 10:13 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif
If what you say was truly the case then you wouldn't have problems belching or farting in public. Modesty is a branch of faith so you shouldn't feel the need to prove yourself different.
I don't think you quite understand.

In my own company I have no problem belching, and that is the honest truth. Why? Because I very much want to be able to relieve trapped air and gas in my throat and can't. In public I would avoid it but no embarrassment or shame for anything I can't willingly control. Only if I did it purposefully or didn't at least try to suppress it in the presence of company would I feel shame and immodesty. I really see no need for modesty to get in the way of a natural and reasonably innocent bodily function when I am on my own and that will bring relief from pain and discomfort (and any possible future complications that could arise from too much trapped air in the oesophagus).

Sorry if I came across as abrupt, it's not to be rude, I just disagree.
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جوري
10-14-2010, 11:01 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Amoeba
future complications that could arise from too much trapped air in the oesophagus

trapped air simply gets diffused and absorbed across the membranes causing no problems whatsoever or pass to the other end.. if you have no problems belching in private, you'll have no problems in public, it is a matter of muffling the sounds, the same way you do with flatus. God did create us all with those crypts of Morgagni to separate that flatus from feces. Even if it seems intuitive there is alot of mechanics there, that your descriptions simply are at odds with at times, causing some of us to be bewildered...

:w:
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Bro
10-14-2010, 11:19 PM
I know the type of problem you're having and I have the same exact thing. I can't burp no matter how hard I try. Fruits seem to have the worst effect on me. Its like this weird build up in my chest and at times it hurts pretty bad, especially when I start to hiccup and the only way it goes away is to just deal with it. I never went to the doctors for it so I really can't say for sure what is causing it. I'm really interested to know why this exists.
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'Abd-al Latif
10-14-2010, 11:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Amoeba
Sorry if I came across as abrupt, it's not to be rude, I just disagree.
No need to apologise. :)
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Amoeba
10-15-2010, 10:14 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ


trapped air simply gets diffused and absorbed across the membranes causing no problems whatsoever or pass to the other end.. if you have no problems belching in private, you'll have no problems in public, it is a matter of muffling the sounds, the same way you do with flatus. God did create us all with those crypts of Morgagni to separate that flatus from feces. Even if it seems intuitive there is alot of mechanics there, that your descriptions simply are at odds with at times, causing some of us to be bewildered...

:w:
I'm sorry you'll need to dumb that down for me. I have no idea what you just said.
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'Abd-al Latif
10-15-2010, 08:37 PM
Never thought I'd hear a sister say she wants to belch.

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