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nature
12-01-2010, 09:27 AM
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I wondered what level in deen does a person have to be to perform Hajj ??

Does a person need to know everything ? like history of islam/memorisation of surahs/quran etc ? or is intention to perform hajj enough ?

are there any things we need to do to work up before going ?

Is it better to perform Hajj when a person gets an opportunity ? as in financially able to/have no responsibilities/young or leave it till later on in life (which is what most people i know do) but then what if you never get chance ?
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'Abd-al Latif
12-01-2010, 10:10 AM
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I wondered what level in deen does a person have to be to perform Hajj ??
A person does not need to be at a 'level' to perform Hajj, every single Muslim is obliged to perform Hajj at least once in their lifetime as Allah says, "And Hajj to the House (Ka‘bah) is a duty that mankind owes to Allah, those who can afford the expenses (for ones conveyance, provision and residence)" [Al ‘Imran 3:97]

The conditions of a person who must perform Hajj are the following.

1 - Being Muslim
2 - Being an adult
3 - Being of a sound mind
4 - Being a free person (i.e. he is not a slave - this is not applicable to us today because everyone is a free person)
5 - Being able to do it

Does a person need to know everything ? like history of islam/memorisation of surahs/quran etc ? or is intention to perform hajj enough ?
No, a person does not need to know everything about Islam to perform Hajj but he must know how to perform the rites of Hajj.

are there any things we need to do to work up before going ?
Yes, to know how to perform Hajj and to do it sincerely for Allah.

Is it better to perform Hajj when a person gets an opportunity ? as in financially able to/have no responsibilities/young or leave it till later on in life (which is what most people i know do) but then what if you never get chance ?
The prophet (saw) said, "Hasten to do Hajj – i.e., the obligatory Hajj – for none of you knows what will happen to him." (Narrated by Ahmad, 2721; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Irwa’, 990)

I cannot stress enough that one should do Hajj as soon as he can. Anyone who waits till he is old has wasted his life and a great amount of blessings when he had the opportunity to do Hajj when he was young. Do Hajj when you are young because you really cannot do Hajj when you are old.
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nature
12-02-2010, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif
No, a person does not need to know everything about Islam to perform Hajj but he must know how to perform the rites of Hajj.
Is there any reliable books, that i can get 2 read up. Im planning on going next year, so ive a year to work up and get to find out everything that i need to know.


[quote='Abd-al Latif;1388922]I cannot stress enough that one should do Hajj as soon as he can. Anyone who waits till he is old has wasted his life and a great amount of blessings when he had the opportunity to do Hajj when he was young.

I dont understand this ? are you trying to say, the younger you are the more blessings than being older ?
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manaal
12-02-2010, 03:11 PM
Assalamu Aleikum Sister,

It is very commendable that you have decided to start to work on your Hajj this early.

I highly recommend the book by "Getting the best out of Hajj" by Abu Muneer Ismail Davids. It's a really practical book and written very well too.

There is also a lecture on Hajj by him. It's in 4 parts. Each video is about 1 hour long, but I think they will be well worth the time. You can find them here.
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'Abd-al Latif
12-02-2010, 03:58 PM
Is there any reliable books, that i can get 2 read up. Im planning on going next year, so ive a year to work up and get to find out everything that i need to know.
There are plenty. As mentioned by sister Manaal, the book Getting the Best out of Hajj is a good one. Among the many books of Hajj are the following.







And of course lets not forget:





I dont understand this ? are you trying to say, the younger you are the more blessings than being older ?
No I personally believe that when you are young you can enjoy Hajj to a much greater degree. You need your youth to bear the demands Hajj and it's not difficult a person who is young. A young person can bear the hardships, pushing and shoving etc with patience and contentment but old people generally can't. Whoever has done Hajj before will testify to this.
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'Abd-al Latif
12-02-2010, 04:07 PM
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Here are some videos by Abu Muneer Islameel Davis.

Hajj seminar part 1


Hajj seminar part 2


Hajj seminar part 3


Hajj seminar part 4
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nature
12-03-2010, 10:36 AM
Originally Posted by manaal
Assalamu Aleikum Sister, It is very commendable that you have decided to start to work on your Hajj this early. I highly recommend the book by "Getting the best out of Hajj" by Abu Muneer Ismail Davids. It's a really practical book and written very well too.
:wa:

I want to earn my place, & feel like im worthy of going by equipping myself with as much knowledge as i can, not go cos its easy for me as i can afford to go. Ive heard of people going just for the sake of going, and not doing their homework before and i dont want to be one of them people.

jazkhallah for the info, I'll look into getting them books, ive only had chance to watch one video, but i found it very, benificial. I find it easier to remember things ive listened/watched rather than simply read off a huge textbook.

Nature
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nature
12-03-2010, 10:40 AM
Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif
No I personally believe that when you are young you can enjoy Hajj to a much greater degree. You need your youth to bear the demands Hajj and it's not difficult a person who is young. A young person can bear the hardships, pushing and shoving etc with patience and contentment but old people generally can't. Whoever has done Hajj before will testify to this.
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Ive heard from one sister thats just completed hajj how difficult it was, shes in her 20's too, and she said with the volume of people going and the cramped conditions its far from easy. I'll try and watch the rest of them videos that you and the other sis have posted tonite, then i'm sure i'll have plenty of more questions to ask.

jazakhallah, i found the first one really interesting, ive never head of this guy, so i look forward to reading his books.

Nature
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'Abd-al Latif
12-03-2010, 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by nature
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Ive heard from one sister thats just completed hajj how difficult it was, shes in her 20's too, and she said with the volume of people going and the cramped conditions its far from easy. I'll try and watch the rest of them videos that you and the other sis have posted tonite, then i'm sure i'll have plenty of more questions to ask.

jazakhallah, i found the first one really interesting, ive never head of this guy, so i look forward to reading his books.

Nature
Hajj is generally harder for women because the Prophet (:saws1:) said that the jihad for women is Hajj. Nevertheless it's still much easier at a younger age.
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manaal
12-03-2010, 03:49 PM
Originally Posted by nature
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Ive heard from one sister thats just completed hajj how difficult it was, shes in her 20's too, and she said with the volume of people going and the cramped conditions its far from easy. I'll try and watch the rest of them videos that you and the other sis have posted tonite, then i'm sure i'll have plenty of more questions to ask.

jazakhallah, i found the first one really interesting, ive never head of this guy, so i look forward to reading his books.

Nature
I performed Hajj this year and it was not so bad for me. I'm older than you and I had my baby with me as well. Which part did your friend find difficult? Was it the crowds and Jamarat, the conditions in Mina or the amount of walking one has to do? I think the hardships expereienced during Hajj is what makes it such an enriching experience.

To spiritually prepare for Hajj, I recommend Sheikh MUhammad Al Shareef's "Hajj Coach" Videos. Go to hajjcoach.com and register and you'll get a series of e-mails with links to the videos and other downloadables.
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Ramadhan
12-04-2010, 08:41 AM
Originally Posted by nature
I want to earn my place, & feel like im worthy of going by equipping myself with as much knowledge as i can, not go cos its easy for me as i can afford to go. Ive heard of people going just for the sake of going, and not doing their homework before and i dont want to be one of them people.
Go if you can now.
(well, obviously not now because you have to wait till next year, but you get my point I hope)

I am still feeling regret that I have not been able to perform hajj when I had abundance of means, health, time (well, the fact that I was still lost in my ways did not help, but stil..)
I finally went umrah last year (when I was still re-learning my deen) and it was THE BEST experience and time of my life.
And yes, hajj would be very physically taxing. I went umrah with my mother and aunt, and alhamdulillah I was able to do as much ibada as I wanted to as opposed to my mum and aunt, but it was very exhausting already, so I can only imagine how hajj would be like.
Because of the quota, i will only be making my hajj in 2017, but I am hoping if I have a lot of cash before than I will go through the special quota. Insha Allah.

So GO HAJJ as soon as you are able.
hajj is a physical ibada and it is wajib if you have the means to do so.

You can always go for another hajj or umroh later in your life if you feel you need/want to do it again.
You have one full year before the next hajj, it is more than enough time to learn all the rituals, to learn how to recite the Qur'an with tajweed, to learn sirah nabawiyyah, etc.
If you leave it till later while you already have the means, there is always something coming up that prevent you from going. This is the experience of many people (including I).
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manaal
12-04-2010, 02:06 PM
^Bro Naidamar, why did you find Umrah exhausting? It doesn't take more than an hour or 2 if you go at the correct time. But if the Haram is really crowded and the tawaf slows down, it can be a bit taxing.

Hajj from next year onward insha Allah will be much easier to many due to the Makkah Metro train service. Hope they extend it to the Haram as well, then that walk/drive can be foregone as well.

Plus Indonesians get very good facilties at Mina and so it's not like you'll be uncomfortable or anything. The whole Hajj would take either 5 or 6 days (8th to 12th or 13th of Dhul Hijjah) since you'll be doing Thamattu. Going to Medina is part of the Hajj package, but not a part of Rasulullah (saws)'s Hajj.
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Ramadhan
12-04-2010, 03:04 PM
Originally Posted by manaal
Bro Naidamar, why did you find Umrah exhausting? It doesn't take more than an hour or 2 if you go at the correct time. But if the Haram is really crowded and the tawaf slows down, it can be a bit taxing.
That is because I did as many umrah as I could squeeze into my 4 days in Makkah. I think I did 5 umroh. I also did as many shalah nafl as possible and I did tawaf instead of tahiiyatul masjid shalah everytime I entered haram. so I was truly lacking rest.
But the tiredness was nothing compared to the blessings and amazing feelings I experienced during tawaf, or during shalah fard when I was on the first row right in front of ka'bah and my head bumped into that marble barrier of ka'bah during my sujood. Or when I was inside hijr ismail and asked Allah to be given chance to kiss hajar aswad, and lo and behold the next tawaf I did somehow I managed to squeeze my head in and kissed hajar aswad etc etc.
I am longing to be able to come back to Makkah and perform hajj.. may Allah accept my wish amiin.



Originally Posted by manaal
Hajj from next year onward insha Allah will be much easier to many due to the Makkah Metro train service. Hope they extend it to the Haram as well, then that walk/drive can be foregone as well.
I thought the metro train service is only for saudi nationals only?

Originally Posted by manaal
Plus Indonesians get very good facilties at Mina and so it's not like you'll be uncomfortable or anything. The whole Hajj would take either 5 or 6 days (8th to 12th or 13th of Dhul Hijjah) since you'll be doing Thamattu. Going to Medina is part of the Hajj package, but not a part of Rasulullah (saws)'s Hajj.
true, but for indonesians, we have to spend around 35-40 days in makkah and madinah. There are around 200-250,000 indonesians every year going hajj, the largest of any other countries by far (except for saudi I presume), and it is absolutely not possible to fly in and out those 200-250,000 within few days (even if they fly out 10,000 a day, they'd still need 25 days in total), so they will have to wait their turns. Many if not most indonesians would get sick during the hajj. Both my brother and his wife who just came back from hajj were sick when they were in tents in mina (and they were in "special quota" hajj that required them to only spend 19 days!). some old people died, and my colleague's father who is 72 was hospitalised and is now back in Indonesia and still hospitalised.
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nature
12-06-2010, 08:32 AM
Originally Posted by manaal
I performed Hajj this year and it was not so bad for me. I'm older than you and I had my baby with me as well. Which part did your friend find difficult? Was it the crowds and Jamarat, the conditions in Mina or the amount of walking one has to do? I think the hardships expereienced during Hajj is what makes it such an enriching experience.
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my friend is a lot younger than me (26) I think just the sheer volume of people and the crowds/pushing/shoving is what she found really hard, + the amount of walking. Im a couple of years older than her, and although i think im physically able, i dont think i'll realise what its like till im actually there. I would imagine the crowds in mecca are a lot differnt to crowds in a shopping centre.

Originally Posted by manaal
To spiritually prepare for Hajj, I recommend Sheikh MUhammad Al Shareef's "Hajj Coach" Videos. Go to hajjcoach.com and register and you'll get a series of e-mails with links to the videos and other downloadables.
Jazkhallah, I'll look into this also. thanks, its really appreciated.

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nature
12-06-2010, 08:56 AM
Originally Posted by naidamar
Go if you can now. (well, obviously not now because you have to wait till next year, but you get my point I hope)

As long as i can work up, and get to know things that i need to know, then the plan is hopefully next year.
Originally Posted by naidamar
If you leave it till later while you already have the means, there is always something coming up that prevent you from going. This is the experience of many people (including I).
your right ! the only thing thats preventing me from going is lack of knowledge, but ive a year to work up, and i dont expect everything to go right first time round, but at least ive something postiive to focus on for the next year, as hajj as my goal. Inshallah I hope you get to do your hajj earlier than planned.

is a person allowed to pay for another person to go on hajj ?? or does it have to be the persons own money ?
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nature
12-06-2010, 08:59 AM
Originally Posted by naidamar
Both my brother and his wife who just came back from hajj were sick when they were in tents in mina (and they were in "special quota" hajj that required them to only spend 19 days!). some old people died, and my colleague's father who is 72 was hospitalised and is now back in Indonesia and still hospitalised.

may allah grant your relatives/friends a quick recovery. Very sad for something like that to happen.
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manaal
12-06-2010, 01:25 PM
Originally Posted by naidamar
I did tawaf instead of tahiiyatul masjid shalah everytime I entered haram.

Well that is the right thing to do, to the best of knowledge, there is no Thahiyathul Masjod for the Haram anyway.


Originally Posted by naidamar
I thought the metro train service is only for saudi nationals only?

That is wrong information given in the media. The service was available to any resident of Saudi who performed Hajj through a licensed Hajj organiser. (there are illegal ones too!). I'm not a Saudi, but I live here, so I got the facility. I laso heard that Hajj groups from other Gulf countries were also given the facility.

Originally Posted by naidamar
There are around 200-250,000 indonesians every year going hajj, the largest of any other countries by far (except for saudi I presume), and it is absolutely not possible to fly in and out those 200-250,000 within few days (even if they fly out 10,000 a day, they'd still need 25 days in total), so they will have to wait their turns.

That explains a lot of things!
Originally Posted by nature
my friend is a lot younger than me (26) I think just the sheer volume of people and the crowds/pushing/shoving is what she found really hard, + the amount of walking. Im a couple of years older than her, and although i think im physically able, i dont think i'll realise what its like till im actually there. I would imagine the crowds in mecca are a lot differnt to crowds in a shopping centre.

Sis, Hajj will be only as difficult as you expect it to be. Do a lot of walking prior to Hajj and also ask Allah in your du'as to make Hajj easy for you.

Originally Posted by nature
is a person allowed to pay for another person to go on hajj ?? or does it have to be the persons own money ?
Your guardian can pay for your Hajj. For instance, my husband paid part of my Hajj expenses. Fathers can pay for their daughters. I know families where the children have paid for their parents' Hajj. I have heard of people gifting money to others to perform Hajj. I don't know whether or not this permissable, but I don't see why it wouldn't be.
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nature
12-06-2010, 01:45 PM
Originally Posted by manaal
Sis, Hajj will be only as difficult as you expect it to be. Do a lot of walking prior to Hajj and also ask Allah in your du'as to make Hajj easy for you.

Im actually quite active, and see myself as being physically fit, but untill i get there, then i wont know what its like, or how its gona affect me physically, + it was really hot wen my friend went, so it depends on the weather as well. Saying that, ive managed to go on holiday in 70 degrees weather, which was unbearable, so i doubt its gona be anywhere near that?


Originally Posted by manaal
Your guardian can pay for your Hajj. For instance, my husband paid part of my Hajj expenses. Fathers can pay for their daughters. I know families where the children have paid for their parents' Hajj. I have heard of people gifting money to others to perform Hajj. I don't know whether or not this permissable, but I don't see why it wouldn't be.

I intend to pay for my own, but i wondered whether it was ok for me to pay for any other relatives ? as in my mum etc ? she hasnt asked me, but i did intend to offer, however I had heard that only sons can pay and not daughters ? & i didnt want to offer something thats not allowed ? I dont know if this is just culture stuff ? also just out of interest how much does it roughly cost for a person to go on hajj, im aware prices can fluctuate/decrease.
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manaal
12-06-2010, 07:07 PM
If you are quite active I'm sure you won't find it that bad. It is quite hot between 10 a.m and 2 p.m. but not so bad after that. And since Hajj next year will take place from the 4th to the 9th of November, Insha Allah, the climate would be quite bearable.

The cost for Hajj depends on where you are from. You have to check your local hajj organisers/agents for details on that.

Originally Posted by nature
I intend to pay for my own, but i wondered whether it was ok for me to pay for any other relatives ? as in my mum etc ? she hasnt asked me, but i did intend to offer, however I had heard that only sons can pay and not daughters ? & i didnt want to offer something thats not allowed ? I dont know if this is just culture stuff ?
I really don't know the answer to this sis, sorry.

BTW, you should also have a Mahram who could accompany you on Hajj (father, brother, maternal or paternal uncle or grandfather, husband).
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S_87
12-06-2010, 07:10 PM
remember, theres nothing saying we will live till timorrow so putting off something so important till we're 'old' isnt such a great idea. Those who have been for hajj will confirm that once youve gone you will only want to go again and again and those who leave it whilst they have the chance are truly missing out
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Ramadhan
12-07-2010, 01:33 AM
Originally Posted by nature
I intend to pay for my own, but i wondered whether it was ok for me to pay for any other relatives ? as in my mum etc ? she hasnt asked me, but i did intend to offer, however I had heard that only sons can pay and not daughters ? & i didnt want to offer something thats not allowed ? I dont know if this is just culture stuff ? also just out of interest how much does it roughly cost for a person to go on hajj, im aware prices can fluctuate/decrease.
I haven't heard that it is not permissible to pay for someone else's hajj costs.
in fact, in Indonesia it is quite common for someone rich to pay for his family or anyone else's hajj. My mother's first hajj was paid by her brother.
However, if you are in doubt, you can always give the money to your mother as hadiah/hibah (gift), and then your mother can use the money to pay for her hajj.
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nature
12-07-2010, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by manaal
BTW, you should also have a Mahram who could accompany you on Hajj (father, brother, maternal or paternal uncle or grandfather, husband).

I have a brother, who will be accompanying both of us.

Originally Posted by S_87
remember, theres nothing saying we will live till timorrow so putting off something so important till we're 'old' isnt such a great idea. Those who have been for hajj will confirm that once youve gone you will only want to go again and again and those who leave it whilst they have the chance are truly missing out
My goal is next year.

Originally Posted by manaal
If you are quite active I'm sure you won't find it that bad. It is quite hot between 10 a.m and 2 p.m. but not so bad after that. And since Hajj next year will take place from the 4th to the 9th of November, Insha Allah, the climate would be quite bearable.

Im not worried about the heat or anything, i was just trying to think in my head what its going to be like, from my friends experience. & I walk a lot anyway, so i think i'll be alrite. My gran went a few times before she passed away, wen she was in her 60's, i think, being a frail lady, in a wheelchair for long journeys and using a stick for short distances, she managed to walk around without the help of anything whilst on hajj/umrah, & apparently theres a lot of places to climb there ?? well she managed to do that tooo, in fact she loved it there, she was always eager to go back, so if she managed to do then im sure i can.

Every1 thats gone with the right intention, always comes back with a postive story, unfortuantely there are ones, that come back with different ones.
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nature
12-07-2010, 09:14 AM
Originally Posted by naidamar
I haven't heard that it is not permissible to pay for someone else's hajj costs. in fact, in Indonesia it is quite common for someone rich to pay for his family or anyone else's hajj. My mother's first hajj was paid by her brother. However, if you are in doubt, you can always give the money to your mother as hadiah/hibah (gift), and then your mother can use the money to pay for her hajj.

Maybe this is just culture talk then ? I think shes too proud to take it as a gift, but i kinda already mentioned that i would pay for her, in a not too obvious way, but when it comes down to it, i dont think she'll accept it ? maybe i can find a way round this nearer the time, and just pay for her.
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manaal
12-07-2010, 10:57 AM
[QUOTE=nature;1390454]:sl:

I have a brother, who will be accompanying both of us.

My goal is next year.


Alahamidulillah. But sis, you should always say Insha Allah.
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nature
12-07-2010, 11:13 AM
Originally Posted by manaal
Alahamidulillah. But sis, you should always say Insha Allah.
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jazakhaallah for the reminder. :D Im still learning :embarrass

:wa:
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Abz2000
06-18-2018, 04:03 PM
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According to the following Bukhari hadith, the black stone does not need to be kissed, and it is only done so since it was considered as a lawful and harmless practice of the messenger of Allah :saws: even though this was simply done for show at the time.

Volume 2, Book 26, Number 677:Narrated Ibn Abbas.:In his Last Hajj the Prophet performed Tawaf of the Ka'ba riding a camel and pointed a bent-headed stick towards the Corner (Black Stone).

http://www.iupui.edu/~msaiupui/026.sbt.html


Book 007, Number 2904:

Ibn ‘Abbas (At lab be pleased with them) reported: Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and his Companions came to Mecca and the fever in Medina had weakened them. Thereupon the polytheists (of Mecca) said: There would come to you a people whom the fever has made weak and they have suffered severely from it. They sat in Hatim. Thereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) commanded them to walk quickly ift three circuits and walk (in four) between the two corners. so that the polytheists should. see their endurance. The polytheists then said (to one anothery You were under the impression that fever had emaciated them. whereas they are stronger than so and so. Ibn Abbas said: He (the Holy Prophet) did not command them (the Muslims) to walk quickly in all the circuits out of kindness to them.


Book 007, Number 2905:

Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with them) reported: Allah. ‘s Messenger (peace be upon him) observed Sa’i and walked quickly round the House with a view to showing his strength to the polytheists.---------Book 26: Pilgrimmage (Hajj)

Hadith 675 (Volume 2)

Narrated Zaid bin Aslam from his father who said:"Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, 'By Allah! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' 'Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).'

http://www.iupui.edu/~msaiupui/026.sbt.html

Hadith no: 650

Narrated / Authority Of: Abu Said Al-Khudri

While the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) was leading his Companions in prayer, he took off his sandals and laid them on his left side; so when the people saw this, they removed their sandals.

When the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) finished his prayer, he asked: What made you remove your sandals?

They replied: We saw you remove your sandals, so we removed our sandals.

The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) then said:
Gabriel came to me and informed me that there was filth in them. When any of you comes to the mosque, he should see; if he finds filth on his sandals, he should wipe it off and pray in them.

http://mobile.ahadith.co.uk/chapter.php?page=10&cid=66



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----In light of the above ahadith, it's probably better to avoid kissing the stone as this does not appear to have been from amongst the manaasik shown to Ibrahim :saws: and was only a reactionary measure of the Prophet :saws: to an issue of jaahiliyyah that is no longer present - and it carries the risk of disease and harm. And Allah :swt: knows best.----

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Book 007, Number 2900:

Abu Tufail reported: I said to Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with them): Do you think that walking swiftly round the House in three circuits, and just walking in four circuits is the Sunnah (of the Holy Prophet), for your people say that it is Sunnah?

Thereupon he (Ibn 'Abbas) said: They have told the truth and the lie (too).

I said: What do your words" They have told the truth and the lie (too)" imply?

Thereupon he said: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came to Mecca and the polytheists said that Muhammad and his Companions had emaciated and would, therefore, be unable to circumambulate the House; and they felt jealous of him (the Holy Prophet). (It was due to this) that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) commanded them to walk swiftly in three (circuits) and walk (normally) in four.

I said to him: Inform me if it is Sunnah to observe Tawaf between al-Safa and al-Marwa while riding, for your people look upon it as Sunnah.

He (Ibn Abbas) said: They have told the truth and the lie too.

I said: What do your words" They have told the truth and the lie too, imply?

He said: as Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) had come to Mecca, there was such a large gathering of people around him that even the virgins had come out of their houses (to catch a glimpse of his face). and they were saying: He is Muhammad; He is Muhammad. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) (was so gentle and kind) that the people were not beaten back (to make way) in front of him. When there was a; throng (of people) around him, he rode (the she-camel) but walking and trotting is, however, better.


Book 007, Number 2901:

This hadith has been narrated on the authority of jurairi with the same chain of transmitters but with a slight variation of words (and this is) that he (the narrator) did not say:" They felt jealous of him. but said: The people of Mecca were jealous people."

http://www.iupui.edu/~msaiupui/007.smt.html

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The Prophet :saws: knew their jealousy well, and he had even had to stop them from killing each other in an inter-tribal annihilation during jaahiliyyah when they had dipped their hands in blood vowing fight to the death for the honour of placing the black stone in it's place.

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Book 007, Number 2902:

Abu Tufail reported: I said to Ibn 'Abbas (Allah be pleased with them): People are of the view that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) moved quickly round the House and between al-Safa and al-Marwa, and (thus) it is Sunnah. He said: They told the truth and they told the lie.

http://www.iupui.edu/~msaiupui/007.smt.html

Hadith no: 654
Narrated / Authority Of: AishaI asked the Prophet whether the round wall (near Ka'ba) was part of the Ka'ba. The Prophet replied in the affirmative. I further said, "What is wrong with them, why have they not included it in the building of the Ka'ba?"
He said, "Don't you see that your people (Quraish) ran short of money (so they could not include it inside the building of Ka'ba)?"
I asked, "What about its gate? Why is it so high?"
He replied, "Your people did this so as to admit into it whomever they liked and prevent whomever they liked. Were your people not close to the Pre-lslamic Period of ignorance (i.e. they have recently embraced Islam) and were I not afraid that they would dislike it, surely I would have included the (area of the) wall inside the building of the Ka'ba and I would have lowered its gate to the level of the ground."


Hadith no: 655

Narrated / Authority Of: Aisha
Allah's Apostle said to me, "Were your people not close to the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, I would have demolished the Kaaba and would have rebuilt it on its original foundations laid by Abraham (for Quraish had curtailed its building), and I would have built a back door (too)."

Hadith no: 656

Narrated / Authority Of: Yazid bin Ruman from Urwa, Aisha said that the Prophet said to her, "O Aisha! Were your nation not close to the Pre-lslamic Period of Ignorance, I would have had the Ka'ba demolished and would have included in it the portion which had been left, and would have made it at a level with the ground and would have made two doors for it, one towards the east and the other towards the west, and then by doing this it would have been built on the foundations laid by Abraham."

That was what urged Ibn-Az-Zubair to demolish the Ka'ba. Jazz said, "I saw Ibn-Az-Zubair when he demolished and rebuilt the Ka'ba and included in it a portion of Al-Hijr (the unroofed portion of Ka'ba which is at present in the form of a compound towards the north-west of the Ka'ba).
I saw the original foundations of Abraham which were of stones resembling the humps of camels." So Jarir asked Yazid, "Where was the place of those stones?" Jazz said, "I will just now show it to you." So Jarir accompanied Yazid and entered Al-Hijr, and Jazz pointed to a place and said, "Here it is." Jarir said, "It appeared to me about six cubits from Al-Hijr or so."

http://mobile.ahadith.co.uk/chapter.php?page=7&cid=112




Narrated Al-Miswar bin Makhrama and Marwan:
(whose narrations attest each other) Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) set out at the time of Al-Hudaibiya (treaty), and when they proceeded for a distance, he said, "Khalid bin Al-Walid leading the cavalry of Quraish constituting the front of the army, is at a place called Al-Ghamim, so take the way on the right." By Allah, Khalid did not perceive the arrival of the Muslims till the dust arising from the march of the Muslim army reached him, and then he turned back hurriedly to inform Quraish. The Prophet (ﷺ) went on advancing till he reached the Thaniya (i.e. a mountainous way) through which one would go to them (i.e. people of Quraish).
The she-camel of the Prophet (ﷺ) sat down. The people tried their best to cause the she-camel to get up but in vain, so they said, "Al-Qaswa' (i.e. the she-camel's name) has become stubborn! Al-Qaswa' has become stubborn!" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Al-Qaswa' has not become stubborn, for stubbornness is not her habit, but she was stopped by Him Who stopped the elephant." Then he said, "By the Name of Him in Whose Hands my soul is, if they (i.e. the Quraish infidels) ask me anything which will respect the ordinances of Allah, I will grant it to them." The Prophet (ﷺ) then rebuked the she-camel and she got up. The Prophet (ﷺ) changed his way till he dismounted at the farthest end of Al-Hudaibiya at a pit (i.e. well) containing a little water which the people used in small amounts, and in a short while the people used up all its water and complained to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ); of thirst.
The Prophet (ﷺ) took an arrow out of his arrow-case and ordered them to put the arrow in that pit. By Allah, the water started and continued sprouting out till all the people quenched their thirst and returned with satisfaction. While they were still in that state, Budail bin Warqa-al- Khuza`i came with some persons from his tribe Khuza`a and they were the advisers of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) who would keep no secret from him and were from the people of Tihama. Budail said, "I left Ka`b bin Luai and 'Amir bin Luai residing at the profuse water of Al-Hudaibiya and they had milch camels (or their women and children) with them, and will wage war against you, and will prevent you from visiting the Ka`ba."
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "We have not come to fight anyone, but to perform the `Umra. No doubt, the war has weakened Quraish and they have suffered great losses, so if they wish, I will conclude a truce with them, during which they should refrain from interfering between me and the people (i.e. the 'Arab infidels other than Quraish), and if I have victory over those infidels, Quraish will have the option to embrace Islam as the other people do, if they wish; they will at least get strong enough to fight. But if they do not accept the truce, by Allah in Whose Hands my life is, I will fight with them defending my Cause till I get killed, but (I am sure) Allah will definitely make His Cause victorious." Budail said, "I will inform them of what you have said." So, he set off till he reached Quraish and said, "We have come from that man (i.e. Muhammad) whom we heard saying something which we will disclose to you if you should like." Some of the fools among Quraish shouted that they were not in need of this information, but the wiser among them said, "Relate what you heard him saying." Budail said, "I heard him saying so-and-so," relating what the Prophet (ﷺ) had told him.
`Urwa bin Mas`ud got up and said, "O people! Aren't you the sons? They said, "Yes." He added, "Am I not the father?" They said, "Yes." He said, "Do you mistrust me?" They said, "No." He said, "Don't you know that I invited the people of `Ukaz for your help, and when they refused I brought my relatives and children and those who obeyed me (to help you)?" They said, "Yes." He said, "Well, this man (i.e. the Prophet) has offered you a reasonable proposal, you'd better accept it and allow me to meet him." They said, "You may meet him."
So, he went to the Prophet (ﷺ) and started talking to him. The Prophet (ﷺ) told him almost the same as he had told Budail. Then `Urwa said, "O Muhammad! Won't you feel any scruple in extirpating your relations? Have you ever heard of anyone amongst the Arabs extirpating his relatives before you? On the other hand, if the reverse should happen, (nobody will aid you, for) by Allah, I do not see (with you) dignified people, but people from various tribes who would run away leaving you alone." Hearing that, Abu Bakr abused him and said, "Do you say we would run and leave the Prophet (ﷺ) alone?" `Urwa said, "Who is that man?" They said, "He is Abu Bakr." `Urwa said to Abu Bakr, "By Him in Whose Hands my life is, were it not for the favor which you did to me and which I did not compensate, I would retort on you." `Urwa kept on talking to the Prophet (ﷺ) and seizing the Prophet's beard as he was talking while Al-Mughira bin Shu`ba was standing near the head of the Prophet, holding a sword and wearing a helmet. Whenever `Urwa stretched his hand towards the beard of the Prophet, Al-Mughira would hit his hand with the handle of the sword and say (to `Urwa), "Remove your hand from the beard of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)." `Urwa raised his head and asked, "Who is that?" The people said, "He is Al-Mughira bin Shu`ba." `Urwa said, "O treacherous! Am I not doing my best to prevent evil consequences of your treachery?" Before embracing Islam Al-Mughira was in the company of some people. He killed them and took their property and came (to Medina) to embrace Islam. The Prophet (ﷺ) said (to him, "As regards your Islam, I accept it, but as for the property I do not take anything of it. (As it was taken through treason). `Urwa then started looking at the Companions of the Prophet. By Allah, whenever Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) spat, the spittle would fall in the hand of one of them (i.e. the Prophet's companions) who would rub it on his face and skin; if he ordered them they would carry his orders immediately; if he performed ablution, they would struggle to take the remaining water; and when they spoke to him, they would lower their voices and would not look at his face constantly out of respect.
`Urwa returned to his people and said, "O people! By Allah, I have been to the kings and to Caesar, Khosrau and An- Najashi, yet I have never seen any of them respected by his courtiers as much as Muhammad is respected by his companions. By Allah, if he spat, the spittle would fall in the hand of one of them (i.e. the Prophet's companions) who would rub it on his face and skin; if he ordered them, they would carry out his order immediately; if he performed ablution, they would struggle to take the remaining water; and when they spoke, they would lower their voices and would not look at his face constantly out of respect." `Urwa added, "No doubt, he has presented to you a good reasonable offer, so please accept it."
A man from the tribe of Bani Kinana said, "Allow me to go to him," and they allowed him, and when he approached the Prophet and his companions, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "He is so-and-so who belongs to the tribe that respects the Budn (i.e. camels of the sacrifice). So, bring the Budn in front of him." So, the Budn were brought before him and the people received him while they were reciting Talbiya. When he saw that scene, he said, "Glorified be Allah! It is not fair to prevent these people from visiting the Ka`ba." When he returned to his people, he said, 'I saw the Budn garlanded (with colored knotted ropes) and marked (with stabs on their backs). I do not think it is advisable to prevent them from visiting the Ka`ba."
Another person called Mikraz bin Hafs got up and sought their permission to go to Muhammad, and they allowed him, too. When he approached the Muslims, the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Here is Mikraz and he is a vicious man." Mikraz started talking to the Prophet and as he was talking, Suhail bin `Amr came. When Suhail bin `Amr came, the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Now the matter has become easy." Suhail said to the Prophet "Please conclude a peace treaty with us." So, the Prophet (ﷺ) called the clerk and said to him, "Write: By the Name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the most Merciful." Suhail said, "As for 'Beneficent,' by Allah, I do not know what it means. So write: By Your Name O Allah, as you used to write previously." The Muslims said, "By Allah, we will not write except: By the Name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the most Merciful." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Write: By Your Name O Allah." Then he dictated, "This is the peace treaty which Muhammad, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) has concluded." Suhail said, "By Allah, if we knew that you are Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) we would not prevent you from visiting the Ka`ba, and would not fight with you. So, write: "Muhammad bin `Abdullah." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "By Allah! I am Apostle of Allah even if you people do not believe me. Write: Muhammad bin `Abdullah." (Az-Zuhri said, "The Prophet (ﷺ) accepted all those things, as he had already said that he would accept everything they would demand if it respects the ordinance of Allah, (i.e. by letting him and his companions perform `Umra.)" The Prophet (ﷺ) said to Suhail, "On the condition that you allow us to visit the House (i.e. Ka`ba) so that we may perform Tawaf around it." Suhail said, "By Allah, we will not (allow you this year) so as not to give chance to the 'Arabs to say that we have yielded to you, but we will allow you next year." So, the Prophet (ﷺ) got that written. Then Suhail said, "We also stipulate that you should return to us whoever comes to you from us, even if he embraced your religion." The Muslims said, "Glorified be Allah! How will such a person be returned to the pagans after he has become a Muslim? While they were in this state Abu- Jandal bin Suhail bin `Amr came from the valley of Mecca staggering with his fetters and fell down amongst the Muslims. Suhail said, "O Muhammad! This is the very first term with which we make peace with you, i.e. you shall return Abu Jandal to me." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "The peace treaty has not been written yet." Suhail said, "I will never allow you to keep him." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Yes, do." He said, "I won't do.: Mikraz said, "We allow you (to keep him)." Abu Jandal said, "O Muslims! Will I be returned to the pagans though I have come as a Muslim? Don't you see how much I have suffered?" (continued...) (continuing... 1): -3.891:... ...

Abu Jandal had been tortured severely for the Cause of Allah. `Umar bin Al-Khattab said, "I went to the Prophet (ﷺ) and said, 'Aren't you truly the Messenger of Allah?' The Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'Yes, indeed.' I said, 'Isn't our Cause just and the cause of the enemy unjust?' He said, 'Yes.' I said, 'Then why should we be humble in our religion?' He said, 'I am Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and I do not disobey Him, and He will make me victorious.' I said, 'Didn't you tell us that we would go to the Ka`ba and perform Tawaf around it?' He said, 'Yes, but did I tell you that we would visit the Ka`ba this year?' I said, 'No.' He said, 'So you will visit it and perform Tawaf around it?' " `Umar further said, "I went to Abu Bakr and said, 'O Abu Bakr! Isn't he truly Allah's Prophet?' He replied, 'Yes.' I said, 'Then why should we be humble in our religion?' He said, 'Indeed, he is Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and he does not disobey his Lord, and He will make him victorious. Adhere to him as, by Allah, he is on the right.' I said, 'Was he not telling us that we would go to the Ka`ba and perform Tawaf around it?' He said, 'Yes, but did he tell you that you would go to the Ka`ba this year?' I said, 'No.' He said, "You will go to Ka`ba and perform Tawaf around it." (Az-Zuhri said, " `Umar said, 'I performed many good deeds as expiation for the improper questions I asked them.' ") When the writing of the peace treaty was concluded, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said to his companions, "Get up and' slaughter your sacrifices and get your head shaved." By Allah none of them got up, and the Prophet repeated his order thrice. When none of them got up, he left them and went to Um Salama and told her of the people's attitudes towards him. Um Salama said, "O the Prophet (ﷺ) of Allah! Do you want your order to be carried out? Go out and don't say a word to anybody till you have slaughtered your sacrifice and call your barber to shave your head." So, the Prophet (ﷺ) went out and did not talk to anyone of them till he did that, i.e. slaughtered the sacrifice and called his barber who shaved his head. Seeing that, the companions of the Prophet (ﷺ) got up, slaughtered their sacrifices, and started shaving the heads of one another, and there was so much rush that there was a danger of killing each other. Then some believing women came (to the Prophet (ﷺ) ); and Allah revealed the following Divine Verses:-- "O you who believe, when the believing women come to you as emigrants examine them . . ." (60.10) `Umar then divorced two wives of his who were infidels. Later on Muawiya bin Abu Sufyan married one of them, and Safwan bin Umaiya married the other. When the Prophet (ﷺ) returned to Medina, Abu Basir, a new Muslim convert from Quraish came to him.
The Infidels sent in his pursuit two men who said (to the Prophet (ﷺ) ), "Abide by the promise you gave us." So, the Prophet (ﷺ) handed him over to them. They took him out (of the City) till they reached Dhul-Hulaifa where they dismounted to eat some dates they had with them. Abu Basir said to one of them, "By Allah, O so-and-so, I see you have a fine sword." The other drew it out (of the scabbard) and said, "By Allah, it is very fine and I have tried it many times." Abu Basir said, "Let me have a look at it." When the other gave it to him, he hit him with it till he died, and his companion ran away till he came to Medina and entered the Mosque running. When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saw him he said, "This man appears to have been frightened." When he reached the Prophet (ﷺ) he said, "My companion has been murdered and I would have been murdered too." Abu Basir came and said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), by Allah, Allah has made you fulfill your obligations by your returning me to them (i.e. the Infidels), but Allah has saved me from them." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Woe to his mother! what excellent war kindler he would be, should he only have supporters." When Abu Basir heard that he understood that the Prophet (ﷺ) would return him to them again, so he set off till he reached the seashore. Abu Jandal bin Suhail got himself released from them (i.e. infidels) and joined Abu Basir. So, whenever a man from Quraish embraced Islam he would follow Abu Basir till they formed a strong group. By Allah, whenever they heard about a caravan of Quraish heading towards Sham, they stopped it and attacked and killed them (i.e. infidels) and took their properties. The people of Quraish sent a message to the Prophet (ﷺ) requesting him for the Sake of Allah and Kith and kin to send for (i.e. Abu Basir and his companions) promising that whoever (amongst them) came to the Prophet (ﷺ) would be secure. So the Prophet (ﷺ) sent for them (i.e. Abu Basir's companions) and Allah I revealed the following Divine Verses: "And it is He Who Has withheld their hands from you and your hands From them in the midst of Mecca, After He made you the victorious over them. ... the unbelievers had pride and haughtiness, in their hearts ... the pride and haughtiness of the time of ignorance." (48.24-26)
And their pride and haughtiness was that they did not confess (write in the treaty) that he (i.e. Muhammad) was the Prophet of Allah and refused to write: "In the Name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the Most Merciful," and they (the mushriks) prevented them (the Muslims) from visiting the House (the Ka`bah).


https://sunnah.com/bukhari/54/19
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azc
06-18-2018, 05:56 PM
@Abz2000 :

the black stone does not need to be kissed
Disagree.

It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning the Stone: “By Allaah, Allaah will bring it forth on the Day of Resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favour of those who touched it in sincerity.”
Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944

If a person is unable to kiss the Stone, he should touch it with his hand or something else, then he can kiss the thing with which he touched it.

It was narrated that Abu Tufayl (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I saw the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) performing Tawaaf around the House, touching the corner [where the Stone is] with a crooked staff which he had with him, then kissing the staff.
(Narrated by Muslim, 1275)

Touching the Stone is one of the things by means of which Allaah expiates for sins

It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Touching them both [the Black Stone and al-Rukn al-Yamani] is an expiation for sins.”
(Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 959
https://islamqa.info/en/1902?_e_pi_=...0%2C7988217475
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Abz2000
06-19-2018, 12:35 PM
Originally Posted by azc
@Abz2000 :

Disagree.

It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning the Stone: “By Allaah, Allaah will bring it forth on the Day of Resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favour of those who touched it in sincerity.”
Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944

If a person is unable to kiss the Stone, he should touch it with his hand or something else, then he can kiss the thing with which he touched it.

It was narrated that Abu Tufayl (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I saw the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) performing Tawaaf around the House, touching the corner [where the Stone is] with a crooked staff which he had with him, then kissing the staff.
(Narrated by Muslim, 1275)

Touching the Stone is one of the things by means of which Allaah expiates for sins

It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Touching them both [the Black Stone and al-Rukn al-Yamani] is an expiation for sins.”
(Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 959
https://islamqa.info/en/1902?_e_pi_=...0%2C7988217475

.........There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.'.........


From: http://www.iupui.edu/~msaiupui/026.sbt.html

Has the false matrix not dissappeared before the truth?

Think for yourself - Allah is Judge.

Think about the jealousy of Allah over the jealousy and disapproval of nobody.


كُلُّ نَفْسٍ بِمَا كَسَبَتْ رَهِينَةٌ
Each soul is in pledge (to Allah) for it's deeds.

Quran 74:38



135 hadith found in 'The Book of Divorce (Kitab Al-Talaq)' of Sahih Muslim.

3571

Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Sa'd b. Ubada (Allah be pleased with him) said: Messenger of Allah, if I were to find with my wife a man, should I not touch him before bringing four witnesses? Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Yes. He said: By no means. By Him Who has sent you with the Truth, I would hasten with my sword to him before that. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Listen to what your chief says. He is jealous of his honour, I am more jealous than he (is) and God is more jealous than I.

3572

AI-Mughira b. Shu'ba (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Sa'd b. 'Ubada (Allah be pleased with him) said: If I were to see a man with my wife, I would have struck him with the sword, and not with the flat part (side) of it. When Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) heard of that, he said: Are you surprised at Sa'd's jealousy of his honour? By Allah, I am more jealous of my honour than he, and Allah is more jealous than I. Because of His jealousy Allah has prohibited abomination, both open and secret And no person is more jealous of his honour than Allah, and no persons, is more fond of accepting an excuse than Allah, on account of which He has sent messengers, announcers of glad tidings and warners; and no one is more fond of praise than Allah on account of which Allah has promised Paradise.

https://www.searchtruth.com/book_dis...=0&number=3571
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azc
06-19-2018, 12:58 PM
Originally Posted by Abz2000
.........There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.'.........


From: http://www.iupui.edu/~msaiupui/026.sbt.html


Think for yourself - Allah is Judge.

Think about the jealousy of Allah over the jealousy and disapproval of nobody.


كُلُّ نَفْسٍ بِمَا كَسَبَتْ رَهِينَةٌ
Each soul is in pledge (to Allah) for it's deeds.

Quran 74:38
Ramal is a different issue and kissing the black stone is a different issue.

I don't think if any Muslim likes to be deprived of the blessings related to it as mentioned in ahadith quoted in previous post.

Like it or not, Choice is yours
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Abz2000
06-19-2018, 12:59 PM
Originally Posted by azc
Ramal is a different issue and kissing the black stone is a different issue.

I don't think if any Muslim likes to be deprived of the blessings related to it as mentioned in ahadith quoted in previous post.

Like it or not, Choice is yours
And you should not choose except as Allah chooses - the Rabb of all that exists.
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azc
06-19-2018, 01:15 PM
Originally Posted by Abz2000
And you should not choose except as Allah chooses - the Rabb of all that exists.
What did Allah swt choose for us in this issue (kissing the black stone)...?
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alfaqir
06-19-2018, 09:31 PM
realistically it is quite difficult to make to the black stone during the hajj, maybe on umra you have a chance, but it is so crowded there during the hajj season that most pilgrims has no physical chance to reach there, neither kissing nor touching it, you have to be very presistent or "pushy" (the later which should be avoided ofc, don't cause unpleasantness or hurt to the fellow pilgrims), so in practice mostly you can just point to its direction.
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Abz2000
08-07-2018, 09:51 PM
Originally Posted by azc
@Abz2000 :

Disagree.

It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning the Stone: “By Allaah, Allaah will bring it forth on the Day of Resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favour of those who touched it in sincerity.”
Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944

If a person is unable to kiss the Stone, he should touch it with his hand or something else, then he can kiss the thing with which he touched it.

It was narrated that Abu Tufayl (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I saw the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) performing Tawaaf around the House, touching the corner [where the Stone is] with a crooked staff which he had with him, then kissing the staff.
(Narrated by Muslim, 1275)

Touching the Stone is one of the things by means of which Allaah expiates for sins

It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Touching them both [the Black Stone and al-Rukn al-Yamani] is an expiation for sins.”
(Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 959
https://islamqa.info/en/1902?_e_pi_=...0%2C7988217475

Everything will be given sight, hearing, and speech on that day:

حَتَّىٰ إِذَا مَا جَاءُوهَا شَهِدَ عَلَيْهِمْ سَمْعُهُمْ وَأَبْصَارُهُمْ وَجُلُودُهُم بِمَا كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ

M. M. Pickthall
Till, when they reach it, their ears and their eyes and their skins testify against them as to what they used to do. zoom

Yusuf Ali (Saudi Rev. 1985)
At length, when they reach the (Fire), their hearing, their sight, and their skins will bear witness against them, as to (all) their deeds.


وَقَالُوا لِجُلُودِهِمْ لِمَ شَهِدتُّمْ عَلَيْنَا قَالُوا أَنطَقَنَا اللَّهُ الَّذِي أَنطَقَ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ وَهُوَ خَلَقَكُمْ أَوَّلَ مَرَّةٍ وَإِلَيْهِ تُرْجَعُونَ

M. M. Pickthall
And they say unto their skins: Why testify ye against us? They say: Allah hath given us speech Who giveth speech to all things, and Who created you at the first, and unto Whom ye are returned.

Yusuf Ali (Saudi Rev. 1985)
They will say to their skins: "Why bear ye witness against us?" They will say: "Allah hath given us speech,- (He) Who giveth speech to everything: He created you for the first time, and unto Him were ye to return.

وَمَا كُنتُمْ تَسْتَتِرُونَ أَن يَشْهَدَ عَلَيْكُمْ سَمْعُكُمْ وَلَا أَبْصَارُكُمْ وَلَا جُلُودُكُمْ وَلَٰكِن ظَنَنتُمْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَعْلَمُ كَثِيرًا مِّمَّا تَعْمَلُونَ

M. M. Pickthall
Ye did not hide yourselves lest your ears and your eyes and your skins should testify against you, but ye deemed that Allah knew not much of what ye did.

Yusuf Ali (Saudi Rev. 1985)
"Ye did not seek to hide yourselves, lest your hearing, your sight, and your skins should bear witness against you! But ye did think that Allah knew not many of the things that ye used to do!


Quran, Chapter 41, Verses 20-23


It was a red herring set up for you like the changing of the Qiblah so that Allah :swt: could test you.

Search: cornerstone which the builders rejected (laa ilaaha illa Allah) and know that atonement does not come from kissing a stone or crucifying prophets - but it comes from the righteous intentions of a person in submission and obedience to Allah :swt: along with the righteous conduct of a person before Allah :swt: - if you know that it can neither profit nor harm, there is no purpose in clamouring and fighting each other to kiss it - especially now that there are millions of people visiting, and that women can't reach anywhere near it without being squeezed by multiple men - therefore when put on the balance of good and bad, it does actually have harms attached to it.

Remember what Ibraheem :as: asked his father about harm and benefit.

There is always a reason for an action of any prophet and also for it's abrogation by Allah :swt:

Consider whether it is best to simply keep it as what it originally was, a cornerstone of the Ka'bah - the ground level (which is door level) of which has been raised to a height different to and above what it orginally was when laid by Ibrahim :as:


See also:

The cornerstone (or foundation stone or setting stone) is the first stone set in the construction of a masonry foundation, important since all other stones will be set in reference to this stone, thus determining the position of the entire structure.

Over time a cornerstone became a ceremonial masonry stone, or replica, set in a prominent location on the outside of a building, with an inscription on the stone indicating the construction dates of the building and the names of architect, builder, and other significant individuals. The rite of laying a cornerstone is an important cultural component of eastern architecture and metaphorically in sacred architecture generally.

Some cornerstones include time capsules from, or engravings commemorating, the time a particular building was built.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone






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aafiak
08-08-2018, 10:33 AM
I don't think Deen has set any level to perform Hajj. As per my information it is your intention what Allah loves but yes you can consult about the financial responsibilities.
I do want an answer on that with references.
Jazakallah
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Zzz_
08-31-2018, 12:32 AM
Here are some hajj resources if you're interested.

https://islamqa.info/en/hajj
https://archive.org/details/HajjUmrahFromAToZPdf
http://www.fatwa-online.com/wp-conte...hone-v6.40.pdf
http://www.performhajj.com/brief_gui..._and_umrah.php
http://www.qss.org/articles/hajjalb/rites.html
http://www.islamicbulletin.org/services/hajj.htm

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