format_quote Originally Posted by
titus
What exactly did I say that was not true?
I said, and let me quote myself since you seem to have completely missed it:
but the fact remains that (excluding Indonesia and some others (noted Woodrow)) Muslim women as a whole around the world are less educated than the average American or European and that is a major factor in the birth rate.
Yes, there are exceptions, but as a whole my comment is correct.
The number of women in the Iranian parliament has absolutely zero to do with my comment.
I thought you might have some insight into my interests since you claim I am making up facts to serve them. Since you now claim to not be able answer that question I guess I was wrong.
Much of what you write is incorrect.. and you do it for several reasons, I wonder if you yourself are even aware of what they're?
part of it undoubtedly to save face, especially when you find yourself at a loss to reconcile your beliefs with the fact that you yourself interpret based on your own personal bias, and the second reason, if because you're quite frankly naive to what goes on in the world around you and unable to be critical of data or even interpret it correctly.. as such like many times before google the first article that will echo your sentiment often times in your sad quest undermining your own point. Google doesn't a scholar make..
for I can just as easily google this:
An average of 24 cases are submitted to the U.S. Office of Research Integrity annually, according to Dr. Luther. And in a survey of NIH-funded scientists published in
Nature, researchers calculated that scientists observed a minimum of 2,325 incidents of scientific misconduct per year (June 19, 2008, Vol. 453:7198, pp. 980-982).
lies, dam n lies and statistics as the adage goes.
and given that you have zero credentials to loan you a sliver of a critical mind to approach much of what you write here, you can only be too happy with the little petty attempts at what you in your own mind perceive as battles won.
Most of the times I find what you write or quote only too laughable really like the article you quoted by some nameless student in a catholic university as a fact on Afghanistan, or your recent aid to your fellow atheist with statistics that have only undermined the point you were trying to make, and numerous others.. believe me under normal circumstances I wouldn't even bother reply to you all together, but at times I can't pass up the opportunity to expose you for a fraud as many westerners not unlike yourself are!
By the way, claiming I am making up facts to serve my personal interest is a personal attack. If you can quote one thing that I have said in this thread that is not true and can show facts to refute it then please do so.
I believe I have done so and repeatedly, the problem is with your short or rather should say selective memory loss!
If you believe my claim about education is wrong then please show me the average years of education women receive in the US and Europe and compare it with the average number of years of education a woman receives in a Muslim majority nation.
I have no interest in running that kind of research and have no desire to take your word for it as accurate for reasons afore mentioned!
If I am wrong then I will admit it. If you are wrong then you can apologize for claiming I am making up facts which I have already supported with evidence.
please.. you'll admit you're wrong one day I guarantee, but it will be too late to matter at that stage!
And don't try and turn this into some kind of attack, or try to paint me as someone trying to make Muslims look bad. Poor education in some Muslim countries is a fact and only and ignorant person would try to deny it. Only by pointing it out is there any chance of fixing it. If you want it to continue then bury your head in the sand and ignore it, or even try to convince people that education for Muslim women around the world is superior than that of the US or Europe.
You couldn't make Muslims look bad if you tried.. and I certainly don't find you as vile as posters outside of this forum, but that may very well be for the sake of your longevity on this forum.. either way how you think or feel about Muslims has always been and will always be inconsequential!
all the best