Taking off Hijaab

[Beardo]

:sl:

So I volunteer as a tutor for these group of kids, ages ranging between 5-11.

Yesterday one of the 11-year-old girls asked if she could take off her hijaab because it was getting hot or whatever. I told her it's best to keep it on but she took it off anyway. Salah was five minutes later so she put it back on.

Am I supposed to strictly enforce that they wear the Hijaab?

[Re.TiReD]

AssalamuAlaykum

I teach 6-11 year olds too and never would I let them take their hijaabs off but then that's just me, Hijaab is a piece of essential clothing, would we allow them to take off any other piece of clothing? If something like that had happened I would have stopped the whole class, even if I was teaching Maths or Science because Islam always comes first, I would have stopped them and spent a while talking about the importance of Hijaab and why we wear it. If it's hot go have a drink of water or get some fresh air.

Maybe I'm wrong but that's what I would have done

Wassalam

EDIT: Maybe I'd have been less of an enforcer had it only been one girl but where there's a group of children they look to each other and copy behaviour so if you had allowed one girl to take it off the next thing you know the rest are going to be asking the same thing

[Muslim Woman]

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may be it's better to encourage than be strict. Also , are u sure she has reached her puberty ? If not , then hijab is still not Fard on her.

And Allah Knows Best.

[purple]

:sl:I hate when the Hijab is enforced on children. And I am speaking as someone who was made to wear the Hijab since the age of three. I took off when I was 14. This made my parents mad, but they had themselves to blame because I felt there was compulsion. There was no sense of choice.

I wore back when I turned 18 on my own accord. My sister also took it off: she still does not wear it. I don’t think she is practising.

I don’t know what I would have done. I think you should speak to her privately not in front of the class like previous poster have suggested.

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[GuestFellow]

:sl:

Has she reached puberty? If yes, she needs to wear the Hijaab. If no, she does not need to wear one.

[S.Belle]

Just encourage her to wear it
If she takes it off remind her the importance of wearing it and if she doesnt listen just inform her parents

maybe you should see if you can get a fan in the room so if they get too hot they can sit or stand by it for a while.

[Re.TiReD]

Ok I assumed it was a madrassah setting which is why i'd have a zero tolerance policy on removing hijaab. And targeting children is a bad idea, when you talk to a group of children you talk to them as a whole, not pick on an individual. I'm sorry you took that from my post and Allah knows how i teach my kids :-) i'd still make a lesson out of it, enforcing something does not have to be done in a strict way. It can be positive and gentle but have the desired affect. Basically I thought it was a madrassah setting where I think it'd be unwise to allow her that but if its at home or optional then I guess you have that room for leniency.

[Alpha Dude]

:sl: I agree with Flawed in talking to them about the importance and value of hijab.

You can spend 10 minutes next time you see them by have a word about it and you don't even need to mention it being related to that girl either. Just make it general.

[Cabdullahi]

im sure we had an identical thread by the same person posted before????.....maybe its deja vu

['Abd-al Latif]

:salamext:

Enjoin the good and forbid the evil. You can't force her to wear it but you must do whatever you can to forbid an evil.

:sl:

So I volunteer as a tutor for these group of kids, ages ranging between 5-11.

Yesterday one of the 11-year-old girls asked if she could take off her hijaab because it was getting hot or whatever. I told her it's best to keep it on but she took it off anyway. Salah was five minutes later so she put it back on.

Am I supposed to strictly enforce that they wear the Hijaab?

[Beardo]

I don't know if she's reached puberty or not. I'm not going to ask, nor am I going to check. <--- That's my firm stance on that issue.

However, I told her it's best to keep it on, expressing my disappointment if she took it off. I suppose that's the best I can do? I was thinking I could pull a joke and make her forget about taking it off. Or I could tell her to go to the bathroom, fan herself out or whatever girls do in there for an hour long, and then come back to resume her work.

[Alpha Dude]

Did anyone else think this thread was Rashad having his own hijab crisis that he needed advice on (the one that every girl goes through)?

[CosmicPathos]

regarding enforcement, didnt the Prophet say if your kids are not praying when they are 10 then beat them? Isnt that enforcement? :S

[nature]

:sl:

If shes new to hijab maybe its uncomfortable for her to wear ? I agree with sis Ubah, I dont agree with forcing her, cos in the long run she'll resent it. I know people that have done that me included. you only appreciate it, when you understand why. Maybe do a topic on hijab/dressing modestly for both men and women, that way she'll realise the importance of it. also dont you guys hav air con ?

:wa:

[nature]

regarding enforcement, didnt the Prophet say if your kids are not praying when they are 10 then beat them? Isnt that enforcement? :S

really ....?

[GuestFellow]

really ....?

:sl:

Yes.

Hitting and Verbally Abusing Children

[Ansariyah]

Boxer Muhammad Ali's advice to his daughters

The following incident took place when Muhammad Ali's daughters arrived at his home wearing clothes that were not modest. Here is the story as told by one of his daughters:

When we finally arrived, the chauffeur escorted my younger sister, Laila, and me up to my father's suite. As usual, he was hiding behind the door waiting to scare us. We exchanged many hugs and kisses as we could possibly give in one day.

My father took a good look at us. Then he sat me down on his lap and said something that I will never forget. He looked me straight in the eyes and said, "Hana, everything that God made valuable in the world is covered and hard to get to. Where do you find diamonds? Deep down in the ground, covered and protected. Where do you find pearls? Deep down at the bottom of the ocean, covered up and protected in a beautiful shell. Where do you find gold? Way down in the mine, covered over with layers and layers of rock. You've got to work hard to get to them."

He looked at me with serious eyes. "Your body is sacred. You're far more precious than diamonds and pearls, and you should be covered too."

Source: Taken from the book: More Than A Hero: Muhammad Ali's Life Lessons Through His Daughter's Eyes.

[Amat Allah]

Or I could tell her to go to the bathroom, fan herself out or whatever girls do in there for an hour long, and then come back to resume her work.

Bismellah Irrahman Irraheem

Assalaamu Alikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakaatuh

that what I was about to tell ya my respected brother...when you deal with children try your best to ease things for them unless, you will find them disagreeing with ya, disobeying you and start treating you in another way ...Not because of stubbornness, but because of their innocent nature so they act spontaneously...

I was about to tell ya ...to agree with her and say : yes, you are right. it is really hot in here so, you can go to the bathroom if you want to take your Hijaab off there where no man can see ya my respected sister ,wash your face, fan your self and come back when you are comfortable...and tell her to try not to take a long time there unless, everyone will be worried about her...

you may buy some cold juice for the kids and tell them from the begining: if anyone of you got tierd because of the hot weather then I bought this juice for ya my lil respected sisters to reduce your tiredness and whoever wants to go to the bathroom to wash her face just ask me my permission to let me know where you are going for your safety in shaa Allah...

I won`t blame her taking off her Hijaab cause she is still a child even if she reached puberty at that too young age; she still has a brain of a child and children are not patient especially when they are too tired and desiring something badly...

my entire life I have lived with children playing with them till this moment of my life and never been with adults more than children so, I know them cause humbly I am still one of them...

May Allah love you brother for your concern and reward you with the Highest level of the paradise without being reckoning Ameeeen

[Amat Allah]

sorry for posting again but forgot to tell ya to tell them that hijaab makes you more beautiful cause by wearing it you are pleasing Allah and when you please Allah he makes you more beautiful...this will make those precious lil princesses love hijaab and get attached to it more and more and they will happily repeat your worlds to others later...in shaa Allah...

and they might not take it off for a whole day and sleep while wearing it...

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam

...I could tell her to go to the bathroom, fan herself out or whatever girls do in there for an hour long, .

:p :hiding:


or brother , may be u can only teach the boys .

[nature]

:sl:

regarding enforcement, didnt the Prophet say if your kids are not praying when they are 10 then beat them? Isnt that enforcement? :S

I dont think thats quite right. would you beat your 11 year old daughter ? beat and hit are two different things. a person who beats there kid is intellectually weak IMO and cant relate to children. there are other ways to discipline a child 7 it shud be left to the parents anyway. If the prophet never used physical violence then why should we ? child abuse is wrong.!!! if someone did that to my daughter, they wudnt be left standing ! :p & most women would say the same.

I agree with sis amat-allah. & to the OP-sort your air con out, stop being tight with your money, & get some drinks for the kids. its hard for adults to maintain hijab esp in hot uncomfortable surroundings, shes a child.

[xsmilesx]

:sl:
Hi,
I think you should/should have just guide(d) her as she is only a child and perhaps isn't understanding.

If the behaviour persists and you think she is rebelling, you should contact her parents as they know best how to handle the situation.