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GuestFellow
02-15-2011, 11:56 PM
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The king of Bahrain has gone on television to announce an investigation into the deaths of two protesters killed in clashes with security forces.

Many in the crowd waved Bahraini flags and chanted: "No Sunnis, no Shia. We are all Bahrainis".
I would have liked to seen "We are all Muslims"...
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جوري
02-16-2011, 12:09 AM
I think 70% of Bahrain are shiites and that's how they'd like to turn it..wallahu a3lam..
of course anything against sunni Muslims will be fostered by the west..
Yemen is a no go zone for them but Bahrain well.. let's see what happens there..

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GuestFellow
02-16-2011, 12:15 AM
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As long as everyone there is happy, then I personally have no problem.
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marwen
02-16-2011, 07:53 AM
I think the revolution wave will reach every place in the world. The result won't be necessarily for the benefit of islam. But it's always good to see people bravely calling for their rights.
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Cabdullahi
02-16-2011, 09:45 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by marwen
I think the revolution wave will reach every place in the world. The result won't be necessarily for the benefit of islam. But it's always good to see people bravely calling for their rights.
tunis al5adra tunis al5adra ben ali tunis al5adra tunis al5adra
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nightingale
02-17-2011, 02:58 AM
Assalam alaikum

I can hear the helicopter as I am typing this. Heard the shots too some time back.

I just read, “Avoid the oppressed’s supplication (against you), even if he was a kafir, because there is no barrier in its way (to Allah).”
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MartyrX
02-17-2011, 03:33 AM
This is getting interesting. This could be a very positive change for everyone around the world.
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titus
02-17-2011, 02:32 PM
Army locks down Bahrain, police storm protest

By HADEEL AL-SHALCHI, Associated Press

MANAMA, Bahrain – Army patrols and tanks locked down the capital of this tiny Gulf kingdom after riot police swinging clubs and firing tear gas smashed into demonstrators, many of them sleeping, in a pre-dawn assault Thursday that uprooted their protest camp demanding political change. Medical officials said four people were killed.

Hours after the attack on Manama's main Pearl Square, the military announced on state TV that it had "key parts" of the capital under its control and that gatherings were banned.


Source
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CosmicPathos
02-17-2011, 06:25 PM
3 people have been killed by the tyrant king's puppets. Bring down the king and the elite tyrants.
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Nájlá
02-21-2011, 05:23 PM
I actually don't want the bahraini government to change out of fear that its more likely shia will take over.
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Zuzubu
02-21-2011, 05:39 PM
Another topic for another revolt?

Guys this revolt is BAAAAD! It's shias who are killing sunnis because the king is sunni. Sunni = King, shia = people. Don't support these stupid pointless wars. They are just jealous that their king is not shia.
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جوري
02-21-2011, 05:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Nájlá
I actually don't want the bahraini government to change out of fear that its more likely shia will take over.

I couldn't agree more.. Iran has alot of interest in the region. so does the U.S they've a large base there which they have to attack Iran of course.. are there any Arab leaders that haven't sold their land and their people's ass to Zionism and the west in whatever form? they want their oil and their money but can't stand the sight of them.. are those people really that jaded to who their friends all? what hypocrites..

At least their govt. made a smart move which is take their tanks and their riot police off the streets.. Bahrain is a rich and small country.
It has no tourists that will be frightened by the unrest and no economic problems, thus an Egyptian/Tunisian style revolution won't work for them so they can sit there in that square day in and day out.. it won't make much of a difference..

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GuestFellow
02-22-2011, 01:40 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Nájlá
I actually don't want the bahraini government to change out of fear that its more likely shia will take over.
Salaam,

I think the Shia community should have a say who should become the leader even if the country were to become hostile to Sunni Muslim countries. I think suppressing the Shia community by a Sunni government will make things worse and Iran will take advantage over this.
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titus
02-22-2011, 06:56 AM
I actually don't want the bahraini government to change out of fear that its more likely shia will take over.
I would be very interested in hearing what you think the best form of government for Bahrain should be, considering that Shia outnumber Sunni by about 2 to 1.
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Nájlá
02-23-2011, 06:35 PM
Ok shia’s should have a say in what rights they want…. But them leading the country then I don’t agree even if they are more than sunnis. But that’s not what they are after they want to turn the country into a shia-muslim country. Bahrain is an Islamic country and it should be lead by sunni leaders.
True Islamic leaders is what we want in our muslim countries.
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titus
03-14-2011, 03:22 PM
Official: Gulf military force enters Bahrain

A military force from Saudi Arabia and other Gulf nations moved into Bahrain Monday to shore up the nation's Sunni rulers in the face of escalating Shiite-led protests seeking to break the monarchy's hold on power.

SOURCE

It seems the other monarchies are coming to help their buddies.
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GuestFellow
03-14-2011, 07:15 PM
^ That is wrong. The Bahrain citizens should be allowed to topple their own government and replace it with whatever system that they want.
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Trumble
03-15-2011, 07:26 AM
Well at least that explains why they want 'the West' to help out the Libyan revolutionaries. They are too busy themselves suppressing the Bahraini revolutionaries.:mmokay:
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Zuzubu
03-15-2011, 09:00 AM
Bahrain should be controlled by their leaders, until the caliphate will rise.

The people are shia and the king is sunni.
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GuestFellow
03-15-2011, 12:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Zuzubu
Bahrain should be controlled by their leaders, until the caliphate will rise.

The people are shia and the king is sunni.
Salaam,

I disagree. We should not believe in Monarchies. The Shia people should be allowed to set up their own government because they are being discriminated against the Sunnis.
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titus
03-16-2011, 03:28 AM
Bahrain should be controlled by their leaders, until the caliphate will rise.

The people are shia and the king is sunni.
So oppression is acceptable as long as the "right" people are doing it?
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Dagless
03-16-2011, 07:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Guestfellow
^ That is wrong. The Bahrain citizens should be allowed to topple their own government and replace it with whatever system that they want.
Saudi knows if people see Bahrain free then they're next. There's already been demonstrations in Saudi.
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CosmicPathos
03-16-2011, 07:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dagless
Saudi knows if people see Bahrain free then they're next. There's already been demonstrations in Saudi.
My Sunni friends in Saudi have told me that they will not participate in such protests as they have no qualms against the monarchy. They get to earn money as they wish according tO sharia and they get to practice Islam. The Shias despite being Saudi nationals are trying to create fitna for Sunnis. These Shiite Saudi nationals get all govt benefits that a Saudi Sunni gets. If anyone has the right to start protests then is the people from sub continent treated as crap by Saudis. But they won't initiate sub protestsas they need to survive for their families and don't want to risk their lives.
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Zuzubu
03-16-2011, 07:53 PM
I think sunnis who are generally more religious, if you look at their belief. Eventhough I ain't part of any sect, I like Sunni and Salafi the most. Shi'a is pretty bad for a state. Like Iraq, and Iran isnt enough
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سيف الله
05-11-2011, 03:02 PM
Salaam

Just an update

While Bahrain demolishes mosques, U.S. stays silent

MANAMA, Bahrain —

In the ancient Bahraini village of Aali, where some graves date to 2000 B.C., the Amir Mohammed Braighi mosque had stood for more than 400 years — one of the handsomest Shiite Muslim mosques in this small island nation in the Persian Gulf.

Today, only bulldozer tracks remain.

In Nwaidrat, where anti-government protests began Feb. 14, the Mo’men mosque had long been a center for the town’s Shiite population — photos show it as a handsome, square building neatly painted in ochre, with white and green trim, and a short portico in dark gray forming the main entrance.

Today, only the portico remains.

“When I was a child, I used to go and pray with my grandfather,” said a 52-year-old local resident, who asked to be called only “Abu Hadi. “The area used to be totally green, with tiers of sweet water wells.” “Why did they destroy this mosque?” Abu Hadi wailed. “Muslims have prayed there for decades.” In Shiite villages across this island kingdom of 1.2 million, the Sunni Muslim government has bulldozed dozens of mosques as part of a crackdown on Shiite dissidents, an assault on human rights that is breathtaking in its expansiveness.

Authorities have held secret trials where protesters have been sentenced to death, arrested prominent mainstream opposition politicians, jailed nurses and doctors who treated injured protesters, seized the health care system that had been run primarily by Shiites, fired 1,000 Shiite professionals and canceled their pensions, detained students and teachers who took part in the protests, beat and arrested journalists, and forced the closure of the only opposition newspaper.

Nothing, however, has struck harder at the fabric of this nation, where Shiites outnumber Sunnis nearly 4 to 1, than the destruction of Shiite worship centers. The Obama administration has said nothing in public about the destruction.

Bahrain — and its patron, Saudi Arabia — are longtime U.S. allies, and Bahrain hosts the headquarters of the U.S. Navy’s Fifth Fleet. Members of the Shiite opposition assembled a list of 27 mosques and other religious structures demolished or damaged in the crackdown. A tour by McClatchy of several townships suggests the number of buildings destroyed is far greater. The demolitions are carried out daily, Shiite leaders say, with work crews often arriving in the dead of night, accompanied by police and military escorts. In many cases, the workers have hauled away the rubble, leaving no trace, before townspeople awake.

Bahrain’s minister of justice and Islamic affairs, Sheikh Khalid bin Ali bin Abdulla al Khalifa, defended the demolitions in an interview, claiming that any mosque demolished had been built illegally, recently, and without permission. “These are not mosques. These are illegal buildings,” he said. That claim, however, is easily challenged. In Aali, for example, the government rerouted a planned highway some years back so as to preserve the Amir Mohammed Braighi mosque, residents say.

McClatchy visited three other sites where “before” photos of the destroyed mosques showed they were well maintained, decades-old structures. Some sites had a wistful air. At the Sheikh Aabed Mosque in the village of Sitra, once a ramshackle building that residents said was more than a century old, prayer rugs and other religious paraphernalia covered the ground. On Wednesday, the State Department told McClatchy that it’s “concerned by the destruction of religious sites.” The statement noted that the Bahraini government had international obligations to preserve the common cultural heritage.

In private, U.S. officials are harsher. One, who’s not in Bahrain, said that by bulldozing Shiite mosques and persecuting the political opposition, the government was treating its people like a “captive population.” Another U.S. official visiting the area described the Sunni leadership as “vindictive” and indicated the Obama administration was deeply worried about Bahrain’s rapid downward spiral. Both officials asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the subject.

Shiites have long complained of bias and discrimination here, despite massively outnumbering the entrenched Khalifa dynasty, whose prime minister, Sheikh Khalifa ibn Salman al Khalifa, 75, has held the office for the past 40 years — a current world record.

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/beh...ipid-speeches/
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Grace Seeker
05-11-2011, 03:41 PM
These actions on the part of the Bahrain government are deplorable.
Very curious why the article was titled the way it was, "While Bahrain demolishes mosques, U.S. stays silent," when the content itself makes clear that the US is not silent:
On Wednesday, the State Department told McClatchy that it’s “concerned by the destruction of religious sites.” The statement noted that the Bahraini government had international obligations to preserve the common cultural heritage.
In private, U.S. officials are harsher. One, who’s not in Bahrain, said that by bulldozing Shiite mosques and persecuting the political opposition, the government was treating its people like a “captive population.” Another U.S. official visiting the area described the Sunni leadership as “vindictive” and indicated the Obama administration was deeply worried about Bahrain’s rapid downward spiral. Both officials asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the subject.
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Getoffmyback
05-11-2011, 04:03 PM
As usual the rhetoric shi'ite lebanese figure ,god's ak47 on earth "nasrallah" backed up his bahraini relatives But never mentioned anything about the 90% sunnis who are ruled by 8% alawite in syria . You know the alawites are nasrallah's cousins!
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جوري
05-11-2011, 04:29 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by titus
I would be very interested in hearing what you think the best form of government for Bahrain should be, considering that Shia outnumber Sunni by about 2 to 1.

under an Islamic state, not a monarchy and certainly not faction ruled!
I don't believe in those individual city states or pan-arabism in general as that was the fall of the Muslim world ''divide and conquer''. It was unheard of prior to 1927 to govern by anything but Sharia law!
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سيف الله
05-12-2011, 09:51 AM
Salaam

Another update

Foreign secretary William Hagues annoucement that he is sending British soldiers to Libya to train the ragtag rebel army fighting Colonel Gaddafi certainly caught the headlines, but British military trainers have also been busy in Bahrain, working with the soldiers of a regime that has been shooting and beating pro-democracy protestors.

Currently there are no British trainers in the Gulf State; but as recently as December half a dozen officers ran a week long 'tactical planning' course for the Bahrani army. A Ministry of Defence spokesman told the Eye: 'The UK provides world-class defence training and education to many countries, including in the GUlf, creating lasting ties between our armed forces and enhancing their ability to work together towards regional security and stability'

Regular training missions in Bahrain have included the permanent loan of an officer in the early Noughties (2000). Asked if the current respression would lead to a re-evaluation, the MOD said 'All requests for defence training are considered on a case-by-case basis and it would not be provided if we thought such training would lead to human rights abuses. . . . We will continue our positive bilateral defence engagement with the Bahrainis in order to support our wider regional security objectives'.

Bahraini soldiers also train in the UK: about five officers are currently at Sandhurst.

From the Private Eye - No 1287
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سيف الله
05-16-2011, 04:15 PM
Salaam

Another updated, forgot to post this

More is emerging on Britain’s dealings with repressive Bahrain, where martial law has recently been declared to deal with unrest.

Security forces from the UK have already ‘intervened’ in the sheikhdom: not on the side of the pro-democracy protestors who are being shot at, but in helping to train the police force whose officers have been doing the shooting, as well as the beating and attacking.

The last British police adviser was withdrawn from Bahrain less than two weeks ago. This was not in protest at the regimes brutal tactics but because of fears for the officers safety, said the UK National Police Improvement Agency (NPIA), the Home Office quango which sends UK officers to Bahrain.

The NPIA full-time advisers have offered ‘assistance in the modernisation of the Bahrain police force’ and training in ‘community policing’, simulation of operations like ‘riots armed sieges, etc’ and ‘counter terrorism’

The NPIA told the Eye it had two advisers in Bahrain this year. One was called back to Britain in mid March; the other was already on leave outside Bahrain and will not return.

In fact the NPIA has sent a variety of helpers to the kingdom. Last October trainers from the NPIAs ‘International Commanders Programme’ were there to ‘construct a leadership programme’ and in 2009 two media specialists were sent to ‘train members of a royal family, plus a judge, three lieutenant colonels and senior officials from various ministries. . . how to handle the media in a crises’. No doubt the training has been invaluable in recent weeks.

PE No: 1285
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