Five Pillars of Islam

[maryam ahmed]

Narrated ibn umar Allah's apostle said : islam is based on (the following )five (principles ):

1-to testify none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah's apostle .2-to of few the (compulsory congregational )prayers dutifully and perfectly.3- to pay zakat (i.e. obligatory charity ).4-to observe fast during the month of ramadan .5-to perform hajj (i.e. pilgrimage to Mecca ).

عن ابي عبد الرحمن عبد الله بن عمر بن الخطاب رضي الله عنهما قال :سمعت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول: ( بني الإسلام على خمس :شهادة أن لا إله إلا الله,وأن محمد رسول الله , إقام الصلاة, وإيتاء الزكاة, وصوم رمضان وحج البيت ) رواه البخاري ومسلم .

These five pillars are the foundation of our Islam .

First pillar ,every muslim has to believe in these two testimonies .(No god but Allah & Muhammad is Allah's apostle ):

(No god but Allah ) means to testify by saying these words & admitting them by your heart that there is no other god worthy to be worshipped but Allah .

(Muhammad is Allah's apostl e ) means that we should believe that Muhammad was sent by Allah & he has been sent to teach us about islam .

Second pillar , performing five prayers is a duty for every muslim ,these have a great place in our religion as second pillar of islam & the first thing that a person is questioned about in judgment day .Allah has ordered his prophet to perform prayer in the highest of places & the greatest of nights ,night of Isra'a in 7th sky.

Third pillar,paying al zakat which is an order from Allah to his slaves

to clean their souls & their money & to clear their sins .On the other hand ,not paying zakat is a reason for loss of all blessing from the earth.

Fourth pillar, fasting Ramadan ,which is a great season when muslims renew their pack with god & refresh their faith .During this great month people gain great benefits that help them upon their journey in worshipping Allah .And it makes you share the feelings with poor people .In this month you can read the Qra'an from the beginning to the end & pray (traweh ) in the mosque or at home with your family .

Fifth pillar, pilgrimage to mecca ,this was ordered in the 9th year of hegrah.God has ordered this as a cleanser for souls & to clear sins as mentioned in the prophet saying : ( those who perform pilgrimage and do not cause any problem for themselves or for others will return to their lives with sheet just as the day they were born ).

[ayesha.ansari]

JAZAKALLAH for sharing. dear maryam always write ALLAH or GOD in capital you have write it in small letter. Respect should be given verbally and orally

[ayesha.ansari]

you have beautifully explained the Five pillars of Islam, good work keep it up...

[Insaanah]

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always write ALLAH or GOD in capital you have write it in small letter. Respect should be given verbally and orally

Whether someone writes the word "Allah" in English in lower case beginning with a capital A, or wholly in capitals, is no measure of the respect they give to Allah, nor does it have any bearing on it.

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[Amanda]

Beautifully explained! Thanks for sharing!

[JOHNJOHN]

Peace,


There is something I do not understand Islam does not started with the prophete Mohamed ?

Why we have the 5 pillars of Islam with the coming of the prophete Mohamed ?

[Ramadhan]

Peace, There is something I do not understand Islam does not started with the prophete Mohamed ? Why we have the 5 pillars of Islam with the coming of the prophete Mohamed ?

Islam is the fitrah (pure natural state) of every human being when they are born, and Islam also means "submission" to the One God.
Allah SWT in the qur'an says that He sent messengers to every nation of earth to remind them to worship the One true God, but the messages always got distorted their people, especially after their deaths. And prophet Muhammad SAW was sent as the last messenger and the Qur'an which was revealed to him is meant to be guidance for all mankind until the end of this world, hence the Qu'ran is preserved by Allah SWT.

As for the five pillars:
1. the shahada, the message that we must worship only the One true God has always been the original message of all messengers. But this original message was distorted and corrupted over time, until prophet Muhammas SAW was sent as the last messenger.
2. shalah, the regular daily prayers have been established also by previous prophets. Just have a look at the orthodox jews: they pray 3 times a day. prophet Jesus (pbuh) also established daily prayers.
3. zakah (obligatory alms) was also established by the previous messengers, even current christians still pay 10% of zakah
4. fasting, all the previous prophets and messengers also fast.
5. Hajj, this ritual was established by prophet Ibrahim (as) as purification and thanksgiving to Allah SWT

[Riana17]

very well explained, salam

[Insaanah]

Islam is the fitrah (pure natural state) of every human being when they are born, and Islam also means "submission" to the One God.
Allah SWT in the qur'an says that He sent messengers to every nation of earth to remind them to worship the One true God, but the messages always got distorted their people, especially after their deaths. And prophet Muhammad SAW was sent as the last messenger and the Qur'an which was revealed to him is meant to be guidance for all mankind until the end of this world, hence the Qu'ran is preserved by Allah SWT.

As for the five pillars:
1. the shahada, the message that we must worship only the One true God has always been the original message of all messengers. But this original message was distorted and corrupted over time, until prophet Muhammas SAW was sent as the last messenger.
2. shalah, the regular daily prayers have been established also by previous prophets. Just have a look at the orthodox jews: they pray 3 times a day. prophet Jesus (pbuh) also established daily prayers.
3. zakah (obligatory alms) was also established by the previous messengers, even current christians still pay 10% of zakah
4. fasting, all the previous prophets and messengers also fast.
5. Hajj, this ritual was established by prophet Ibrahim (as) as purification and thanksgiving to Allah SWT

Indeed, there are verses in the Qur'an which show that the acts of worship that constitute the five pillars are no new thing:

In this verse, Allah is addressing the Children of Israel, and reminding them how He told them to pray and give zakat (almsgiving):

"And (remember) when We made a covenant with the Children of Israel, (saying): Worship none save Allah (only), and be good to parents and to kindred and to orphans and the needy, and speak kindly to mankind; and establish worship and pay the poor-due. Then, after that, you turned away, except a few of you, and you were refusing." (2:283)

And in this verse Allah tells Muslims that He prescribed fasting for people before Prophet Muhammad (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) as well:

"O ye who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before you, that ye may (learn) self-restraint." (2:183)

And this is what Allah said to Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him):

"And proclaim to the people the Hajj [pilgrimage]; they will come to you on foot and on every lean camel; they will come from every distant pass." (22:27)

And all Prophets asked their people to worship Allah alone and to believe in them and obey them as Prophets of Allah. As an example, prophet Noah (peace be upon him) said to his people:

"...Worship Allah (Alone), be dutiful to Him, and obey me." (71:3, part)

We are following what has always been, the way of all the Prophets (peace be upon them).

Peace.

[Hamza Asadullah]

Peace,


There is something I do not understand Islam does not started with the prophete Mohamed ?

Why we have the 5 pillars of Islam with the coming of the prophete Mohamed ?

Greetings John,

Islam started with the first man and Prophet on earth Adam (Peace be upon him) and each people were given Prophets and Messengers some of which came with a new revelation and some Prophets who came to re-establish the revelation before him. These revelations were God's guidance unto mankind taught nthrough Prophets and messenegrs.

The last of the revelations were completed with the last messenger of God Muhammad (Peace be upon him). Fundamentally each prophet and messenger had taught the same core belief and that was to call towards the oneness of God and not to ascribe any partners unto him.

This is the main message of monotheism taught by all of the Prophets and mesengers or God. So Each revelation taught its people how they should worship God in the form of fasting, charity, pilgrimage and prayer.

So whereas some revelations which came to a certain messengers throughout time may have differed a little with regards to the amount of prayers, fasts and charity etc the fundamental core practise of these 5 pillars was the same throughoutall of the revelations.

If you do have anymore questions or need any help with anything at all then please do not hesitate to ask.

[JOHNJOHN]

Islam is the fitrah (pure natural state) of every human being when they are born, and Islam also means "submission" to the One God.
Allah SWT in the qur'an says that He sent messengers to every nation of earth to remind them to worship the One true God, but the messages always got distorted their people, especially after their deaths. And prophet Muhammad SAW was sent as the last messenger and the Qur'an which was revealed to him is meant to be guidance for all mankind until the end of this world, hence the Qu'ran is preserved by Allah SWT.

As for the five pillars:
1. the shahada, the message that we must worship only the One true God has always been the original message of all messengers. But this original message was distorted and corrupted over time, until prophet Muhammas SAW was sent as the last messenger.
2. shalah, the regular daily prayers have been established also by previous prophets. Just have a look at the orthodox jews: they pray 3 times a day. prophet Jesus (pbuh) also established daily prayers.
3. zakah (obligatory alms) was also established by the previous messengers, even current christians still pay 10% of zakah
4. fasting, all the previous prophets and messengers also fast.
5. Hajj, this ritual was established by prophet Ibrahim (as) as purification and thanksgiving to Allah SWT

Peace


1 - I agree that all the prophetes and messengers of god came with one word that there is only 1 god, they never told to add the name of Moses, or Jesus in the
shahada but Muslim do

2 - Maybe Jews have to perform 3 prayers a day but 3 is not equal to 5

3 - agree for Zakat

4 - agree for for fasting

5 - God never told to Jews and christians to go to Meqa for Hajj ?, and where did you see that Abraham went to build the Kaaba ?

[JOHNJOHN]

Indeed, there are verses in the Qur'an which show that the acts of worship that constitute the five pillars are no new thing:

In this verse, Allah is addressing the Children of Israel, and reminding them how He told them to pray and give zakat (almsgiving):

"And (remember) when We made a covenant with the Children of Israel, (saying): Worship none save Allah (only), and be good to parents and to kindred and to orphans and the needy, and speak kindly to mankind; and establish worship and pay the poor-due. Then, after that, you turned away, except a few of you, and you were refusing." (2:283)

And in this verse Allah tells Muslims that He prescribed fasting for people before Prophet Muhammad (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) as well:

"O ye who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before you, that ye may (learn) self-restraint." (2:183)

And this is what Allah said to Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him):

"And proclaim to the people the Hajj [pilgrimage]; they will come to you on foot and on every lean camel; they will come from every distant pass." (22:27)

And all Prophets asked their people to worship Allah alone and to believe in them and obey them as Prophets of Allah. As an example, prophet Noah (peace be upon him) said to his people:

"...Worship Allah (Alone), be dutiful to Him, and obey me." (71:3, part)

We are following what has always been, the way of all the Prophets (peace be upon them).

Peace.

Peace


You said :

And this is what Allah said to Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him):

"And proclaim to the people the Hajj [pilgrimage]; they will come to you on foot and on every lean camel; they will come from every distant pass." (22:27)


Why Moses and Jesus did not go to Hajj to Mecca ? if god told to Abraham to Call people to visit god's House.

[Insaanah]

1 - I agree that all the prophetes and messengers of god came with one word that there is only 1 god, they never told to add the name of Moses, or Jesus in the shahada but Muslim do

We don't add the name of Moses or Jesus (peace be upon them both) in the shahadah. The shahadah, the verbal declaration of which and firm belief in the heart of which, makes one a Muslim, is, I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. A Muslim must belive in ALL the prophets and messengers that Allah sent, whether we have heard of them or not. Muslims believe in Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them both). Christians and Jews do not believe in Muhammad (peace be upon him) as a messenger of Allah, hence the shahadah, which is a very brief statement, is clearly distinct from any other beliefs.

Maybe Jews have to perform 3 prayers a day but 3 is not equal to 5

Prayer is a basic given, but the exact details and number of daily prayers may have varied, while the core fundamentals have always been the same. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the Prophet til the end of time, thus Muslims have been praying and will pray 5 times a day til the end of time.

where did you see that Abraham went to build the Kaaba ?

In the Qur'an:

Pickthall
And when We made the House (at Makka) a resort for mankind and sanctuary, (saying): Take as your place of worship the place where Abraham stood (to pray). And We imposed a duty upon Abraham and Ishmael, (saying): Purify My house for those who go around and those who meditate therein and those who bow down and prostrate themselves (in worship). And when Abraham prayed: My Lord! Make this a region of security and bestow upon its people fruits, such of them as believe in Allah and the Last Day, He answered: As for him who disbelieveth, I shall leave him in contentment for a while, then I shall compel him to the doom of Fire - a hapless journey's end! And when Abraham and Ishmael were raising the foundations of the House, (Abraham prayed): Our Lord! Accept from us (this duty). Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Hearer, the Knower. (Translation of Qur'an, 2:125-127)

And the hadith:

Abraham said: “O Ishmael! Allah has given me an order.” Ishmael said: “Do what your Lord has ordered you to do.” Abraham asked: “Will you help me?” Ishmael said: “I will help you.” Abraham said: “Allah has ordered me to build a house here,” pointing to a hillock higher than the land surrounding it. “Then they raised the foundations of the House (i.e. the Ka’ba). Ishmael brought the stones while Abraham built, and when the walls became high, Ishmael brought this stone and put it for Abraham, who stood over it and carried on building. When Ishmael was handing the stones, and both of them were saying: “”Our Lord! Accept (this service) from us for thou art the All-Hearing the All-Knowing.” (Surah 2: 127) Then both of them went on building and going round the Ka’ba saying: “”Our Lord! accept (this service) from us for thou art the All-Hearing the All-Knowing.” (Sahih Al-Bukhari)

God never told to Jews and christians to go to Meqa for Hajj ?

We don't know, because we do not have the original scriptures with us.

Why Moses and Jesus did not go to Hajj to Mecca ? if god told to Abraham to Call people to visit god's House.

From the hadith, most prophets did perform Hajj:

It is reported that all Prophets performed Hajj to the Sacred House except Hud and Salih (peace and blessings be upon them).

Elaborating more on this, the prominent Muslim scholar Dr. `Abdullah Al-Faqih, supervisor of Fatwa Centre at www.islamweb.net, states:

The place of the Sacred House was known to Prophet Adam (peace and blessings be upon him). It was said that it was he who placed the foundations of the Sacred House and then Prophet Ibrahim and his son Prophet Isma`il (peace and blessings be upon both of them) raised these foundations as it is mentioned in the Qur’an.

As for all prophets having made Hajj to the Sacred House, this was reported in a number of hadiths. For example, it was reported on the authority of Anas ibn Malik (may Allah be pleased with him) that Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “The place of the Sacred House at the time of Prophet Adam (peace and blessings be upon him) was protruded about a span of the hand or a little more (from the earth). The angels would make Hajj to it before Adam (peace and blessings be upon him). Then Prophet Adam (peace and blessings be upon him) made Hajj to it, (after which) the angels met him and asked him, ‘Where have you come from?’ He said, ‘I visited the Sacred House.’ They said, ‘The angels made Hajj to it before you’” (Reported by Al-Bayhaqi in his book Shu`ab Al-Iman).

Prophet Nuh (peace and blessings be upon him) also made Hajj to the Sacred House. It was said in a hadith reported on the authority of `Urwa ibn Az-Zubair (may Allah be pleased with him and his father):“All Prophets except Hud and Salih (peace and blessings be upon all of them) made Hajj to the Sacred House. Prophet Nuh visited it; then when the flood took place and the earth drowned, the Sacred House, which was then a red height, perished under the flood. Then Almighty Allah sent Prophet Hud (peace and blessings be upon him) to call his people to the right path. Prophet Hud was so busy undertaking his mission that he did not manage to make Hajj to the Sacred House before he died. When Prophet Abraham was shown the place of the Sacred House, he made Hajj to it, and so did all the prophets who were sent after him” (reported by Al-Baihaqi in his book As-Sunnan).

http://infad.usim.edu.my/modules.php...ticle&sid=3919
http://www.islamweb.net/fatwa/index....twaId&Id=64095

And Allah knows best in all matters.

Peace.

[JOHNJOHN]

Hi Insaanah


See the Surah 2 verse 125 in the arabic verse Allah did not said Makka why in the english is translated as Mekka, that seems strange to me.

How can you translate add a word that we do not have in the arabic version of the verse ?


Also you say in the hadith they build the Kaaba, how can you build a house without clay and stones ?



Peace.

[Strzelecki]

:sl:



Whether someone writes the word "Allah" in English in lower case beginning with a capital A, or wholly in capitals, is no measure of the respect they give to Allah, nor does it have any bearing on it.

:sl:

Exactly what I was going to say. :)

[Ramadhan]

See the Surah 2 verse 125 in the arabic verse Allah did not said Makka why in the english is translated as Mekka, that seems strange to me. How can you translate add a word that we do not have in the arabic version of the verse ?

First, ALhamdulillah that Qur'an is 100% preserved in its orginal form so there can never be any changes (addition, substraction, fabrication, deletion, etc) just as what happened to gospels and bible. Second, which english translation do you use?

Now, let's examine this is QS. 2:125

Sahih International
And [mention] when We made the House a place of return for the people and [a place of] security. And take, [O believers], from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], "Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those who are staying [there] for worship and those who bow and prostrate [in prayer]."

Now, the location "Maqam Ibrahim" as mentioned in the verse has been explained in other verses as well as in ahadeeth:
QS. 3:96-97

Verily, the first House (of worship) appointed for mankind was that at Bakkah (Makkah), full of blessing, and a guidance for Al-'Alamin (the mankind and jinns).
In it are clear signs [such as] the standing place of Abraham. And whoever enters it shall be safe. And [due] to Allah from the people is a pilgrimage to the House - for whoever is able to find thereto a way. But whoever disbelieves - then indeed, Allah is free from need of the worlds.

Bakkah is the ancient name of Makkah. Now it is clear that what is referred to in the Qs2:125 is actually ka'bah and maqam ibrahim (the standing place of ibrahim) in the city of makkah, and hence some translators put the "makkah" inside the bracket to refer to the location in the QS 2:125.

[Ramadhan]

Also you say in the hadith they build the Kaaba, how can you build a house without clay and stones ?

What do you mean by this? I know that you have never been to Makkah, but I don't think you suppose Makkah is like sahara, or do you?
There are plenty of stones and rocks in Makkah, and if you asked me if I've been there, yes I've been to Makkah alhamdulillah :)

[Ramadhan]

JohnJohn, interestingly you may still be able to find the descriptions of Bakkah/Makkah still survive in the psalms:

How amiable are thy tabernacles, O LORD of hosts!
My soul longeth, yea, even fainteth for the courts of the LORD: my heart and my flesh crieth out for the living God.
Yea, the sparrow hath found an house, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young, even thine altars, O LORD of hosts, my King, and my God.
Blessed are they that dwell in thy house: they will be still praising thee. Sollah
Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee; in whose heart are the ways of them.
Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well; the rain also filleth the pools.
—Bible Psalm 84, verses 1 - 6

Blessed are those whose strength is in you, who have set their hearts on pilgrimage.
—Bible, Psalm 85, verse 5

As they pass through the Valley of Baca,
—Bible, Psalm 84, verse 6

Now, Everyone who has been to masjidil haram (known among muslim as Baitullah or the house of Allah) in makkah knows that:
- little birds and swallows built nests on top of many masjids, and those swallows fly in circles around ka'bah, imitating the pilgrims who are doing tawaf (circling the kabah while praising Allah SWT)
- The haj pilgrims who are doing tawaf and salah around ka'bah in the masjidil haram continuously (never stop, not even a second, I guarantee you) praise Allah
- Makkah is famous for its zam zam well, a never end souce of water even after millenia
- Makkah is known for its flood during rainy season. In fact in the last hajj season (november), makkah was flooded.
- Millions of muslims have their hearts set on haj pilgrimage every year.

[JOHNJOHN]

Hi Ramadhan


I agree with you that some translators are making mistakes by not putting words into brackets that we do not find in the original arabic version

For people who do not understand they are mislead by what they are reading

Can you tell me how can you build a house in the desert 2 000 years ago ? step by step


Peace

[JOHNJOHN]

What I find strange with muslims they say in one side the Bible is totally false

In another side when they need some arguments they go in the same false Bible picking up what they need !!!!


Do you consider the Bible false ? true ?

[Woodrow]

Hi Ramadhan


I agree with you that some translators are making mistakes by not putting words into brackets that we do not find in the original arabic version

For people who do not understand they are mislead by what they are reading

Can you tell me how can you build a house in the desert 2 000 years ago ? step by step


Peace

The Sahara is a much sparser desert than the Arabian desert especially around Makkah. Yet, look at the Pyramids that were built there. Tell me step by step how the pyramids were built in a barren land over 3,000 years ago. Look at may of the ancient cities, Have you ever seen the ruins of Volubilis in Morocco? Ancient cities of the Hopi and Navajo in the American Southwest?Look at the ancient city of Timbuktu built in possibly the most barren land ever occupied by man.

[Woodrow]

What I find strange with muslims they say in one side the Bible is totally false

In another side when they need some arguments they go in the same false Bible picking up what they need !!!!


Do you consider the Bible false ? true ?

Nearly always when we quote from the bible we do so to show that even the person's own reference disagrees with what they are saying. As for believing if there is any truth in the Bible? Of course there is, even with deletions, changes, additions some remnants of truth still remain. We do know that all of the Prophets(PBUT) spoke the Truth, and even is their true words may be hard to find, It is most probable that at least of it remains in the Bible. The difficulty is trying to finds what is the Truth. We go by the assumption that all that is in agreement with the Quran, is true.

[Ramadhan]

Can you tell me how can you build a house in the desert 2 000 years ago ? step by step

Go back and read my post #17.

Now tell me how the great wall of china was built across the Gobi desert (much much sparser than anything Makka has been) 2,000 years ago. Step by step.

[JOHNJOHN]

Go back and read my post #17.

Now tell me how the great wall of china was built across the Gobi desert (much much sparser than anything Makka has been) 2,000 years ago. Step by step.

Peace Ramadhan


The difference with all building built a long, long time ago they were many, they had tools and logistics ............................

We are talking here with only 2 personns => Abraham and his son Ishmael

They built the Kaaba I think that mean CUBE ? no ?

The cube has 4 walls how they could stuck stones togeteher in the desert ? in the desert could not find any clay ?

If they built a house for god they supposed to build also a roof no ? tell me how can you build a roof without any woods, steel .....

Keep in mind we are talking about something about 2 000 years ago, in the desert, by 2 personns



Peace

[JOHNJOHN]

Nearly always when we quote from the bible we do so to show that even the person's own reference disagrees with what they are saying. As for believing if there is any truth in the Bible? Of course there is, even with deletions, changes, additions some remnants of truth still remain. We do know that all of the Prophets(PBUT) spoke the Truth, and even is their true words may be hard to find, It is most probable that at least of it remains in the Bible. The difficulty is trying to finds what is the Truth. We go by the assumption that all that is in agreement with the Quran, is true.

Peace Woodrow


I agree with all the Bible is not false but I talked to many muslims around the world and they told me the opposite of what you are saying.

That the Bible is totally false from the first page to the last which is a non sense, because inside the bible we have god's and prophetes's words.


Peace.

[ardianto]

Peace Ramadhan


The difference with all building built a long, long time ago they were many, they had tools and logistics ............................

We are talking here with only 2 personns => Abraham and his son Ishmael

They built the Kaaba I think that mean CUBE ? no ?

The cube has 4 walls how they could stuck stones togeteher in the desert ? in the desert could not find any clay ?

If they built a house for god they supposed to build also a roof no ? tell me how can you build a roof without any woods, steel .....

Keep in mind we are talking about something about 2 000 years ago, in the desert, by 2 personns



Peace

Roof ?. Who said Ibrahim (as) and Ismail (as) built roof for Ka'bah ?. The Ka'bah that they built was only stones pile, without roof.

Then, more than 2000 years later, Arab people found a Rome wooden ship that aground near Jedah. They brought woods from that ship to Ma'kah to build roof for Ka'bah. There was a problem when they would put Hajar Aswad (The Black Stone) in Kab'ah. But then a guy came and gave them solution. He's Muhammad Ibn Abdullah who later became Rasulullah (saw).

[Ramadhan]

The difference with all building built a long, long time ago they were many, they had tools and logistics ............................

Yes, can you tell step by step how in the middle of gobi desert they built the great wall?

We are talking here with only 2 personns => Abraham and his son Ishmael

yes, only two persons, what exactly is your problem? You need to make your question and objection clear.

They built the Kaaba I think that mean CUBE ? no ?

yes, so?

The cube has 4 walls how they could stuck stones togeteher in the desert ? in the desert could not find any clay ?

Do you actually have reading problem? Did you not read br. Woodrow's posts and my post above?
There ARE plenty of rocks and stones in Makkah/Bakkah/Beca, and whoever told you Kaaba made of clay? Terry Jones? Jerry Falwell? the pope? Your local missionary and fundies?

Since I'm afraid you'll ask again, here's how prophet Ibrahim and Ishmail (as) built kaaba:

step 1:
Ibrahim (pbuh) picked up a rock, and placed on a location he wanted to build the house. Ishmil (as) followed hsi father example, and put a rock next to the one placed by his father earlier.
step 2:
Ibrahim and Ishmail (pbuh) picked up more rocks, and placed them next to the previous rocks and on top of them
step 3:
Repeat setp 1 and 2 until a four side walls with a gap for door is completed.

There you go, kaaba was completed in easy three steps.

Now, please tell me how the pyramids and the great walls were built in area where there was only sand, and no rocks or stones available. Step by step.

If they built a house for god they supposed to build also a roof no ? tell me how can you build a roof without any woods, steel .....

I'm sorry, but how old are you?
First, you don't need woods or steel to built a roof. Otherwise, please explain to us how the egyptians built the roof on their houses and pyramids without woods and steel. Step by step.
Second, There was never roof on kaaba, even during the time of prophet Muhammad SAW.

An advice: before you go on an attack on islam, please read elementary basic information about Islam to avoid embarrassment. At least read them from neutral sites, not from Islam haters who fabricate stories and create disinformation about Islam.

Keep in mind we are talking about something about 2 000 years ago, in the desert, by 2 personns

Keep in mind....on a second thought..I'm not even sure if you have sound mind, as evidenced by your repeatedly failing to read and/or understand simple sentences writtten in these answers to your questions.

[Ramadhan]

That the Bible is totally false from the first page to the last which is a non sense, because inside the bible we have god's and prophetes's words.

So you agree that there are falsehoods in the bible, and yet you still follow them?

Why don't you follow the Qur'an wherein there's not one single falsehood?

[JOHNJOHN]

So you agree that there are falsehoods in the bible, and yet you still follow them?

Why don't you follow the Qur'an wherein there's not one single falsehood?

Hi Ramadhan,



What I agree is in the 3 religions there are mistakes and things wrong.

I will not follow the Quran because I found manythings strange for me is for that I am here to try to get answers to my questions.


Peace

[JOHNJOHN]

Yes, can you tell step by step how in the middle of gobi desert they built the great wall?



yes, only two persons, what exactly is your problem? You need to make your question and objection clear.



yes, so?



Do you actually have reading problem? Did you not read br. Woodrow's posts and my post above?
There ARE plenty of rocks and stones in Makkah/Bakkah/Beca, and whoever told you Kaaba made of clay? Terry Jones? Jerry Falwell? the pope? Your local missionary and fundies?

Since I'm afraid you'll ask again, here's how prophet Ibrahim and Ishmail (as) built kaaba:

step 1:
Ibrahim (pbuh) picked up a rock, and placed on a location he wanted to build the house. Ishmil (as) followed hsi father example, and put a rock next to the one placed by his father earlier.
step 2:
Ibrahim and Ishmail (pbuh) picked up more rocks, and placed them next to the previous rocks and on top of them
step 3:
Repeat setp 1 and 2 until a four side walls with a gap for door is completed.

There you go, kaaba was completed in easy three steps.

Now, please tell me how the pyramids and the great walls were built in area where there was only sand, and no rocks or stones available. Step by step.



I'm sorry, but how old are you?
First, you don't need woods or steel to built a roof. Otherwise, please explain to us how the egyptians built the roof on their houses and pyramids without woods and steel. Step by step.
Second, There was never roof on kaaba, even during the time of prophet Muhammad SAW.

An advice: before you go on an attack on islam, please read elementary basic information about Islam to avoid embarrassment. At least read them from neutral sites, not from Islam haters who fabricate stories and create disinformation about Islam.



Keep in mind....on a second thought..I'm not even sure if you have sound mind, as evidenced by your repeatedly failing to read and/or understand simple sentences writtten in these answers to your questions.

Lets say they build the Kaaba.

Can you tell me how they reach Makka from Jerusalem ? sorry If I sound stupid but I would like to understand.

I would like to tell you that I hate nobody, I love everybody and we are free to follow our path with respect to all people around the world.


Peace.

[Ramadhan]

Lets say they build the Kaaba. Can you tell me how they reach Makka from Jerusalem ? sorry If I sound stupid but I would like to understand.

First, let me ask you: who told you Ibrahim (pbuh) resided in Jerusalem? Abraham never resided in Jerusalem. You confused Ibrahim (pbuh) with Jesus (pbuh). Ibrahim (pbuh) traveled all over the place and resided mostly in canaan.
Anyway, here's how one might travel from Jerusalem (or canaan or anywhere in the region) to Makkah (by the way, you were wrong when you said prophet Ibrahim (as) time was 2,000 years ago, even prophet Jesus (as) was born more than 2,000 years ago, so it is very very clear you confused between Jesus (pbuh and Ibrahim as) few thousands years ago:

1. by foot, or
2. on camel, or
3. on donkey

My question to you:
Now, can you tell me how Ibrahim (pbuh) traveled to jerusalem from ur, mesopotamia (today Iraq) where he was originally from?
The distance of Ur- jerusalem is farther than the distance jerusalem-makkah.
Also, I'm surprised that as a christian you never read your bible, for if you have read your bible, you would have known that Ibrahim (pbuh) traveled all over the region from mesopotamia to canaan to philistine to egypt to damascus to jazeera.
Now, can you tell me how Ibrahim (pbuh) traveled from egypt to damascus?
Even your bible tell the stories of Ibrahim, siti Hagar (as) and Ishmail (as) travel to paran/makkah where Ishmail (pbuh) was inspired and found the zam zam well in genesis 21:14:21

When you really don't know, please sincerely ask question, and you wouldn't look stupid, but if you copy and paste "questions" from Islamic hate sites, that would make you look stupid.

[Ramadhan]

What I agree is in the 3 religions there are mistakes and things wrong.

So you agree that there are many wrong mistakes and wrong things in Bible, then why do you follow mistakes and errors?
Shouldn't the truth and words of god contain no mistakes and errors?

I will not follow the Quran because I found manythings strange for me is for that I am here to try to get answers to my questions.

Truth is always clear and free from falsehood. truth does not depend whether a person find it strange and does not change because of that.
If you have any sincere question about Islam, please ask away :)
Unlike the other religions where there's a lot of secret and a lot of "it's a mystery" and "it's all faith", in Islam there is no secret :)

[JOHNJOHN]

First, let me ask you: who told you Ibrahim (pbuh) resided in Jerusalem? Abraham never resided in Jerusalem. You confused Ibrahim (pbuh) with Jesus (pbuh). Ibrahim (pbuh) traveled all over the place and resided mostly in canaan.
Anyway, here's how one might travel from Jerusalem (or canaan or anywhere in the region) to Makkah (by the way, you were wrong when you said prophet Ibrahim (as) time was 2,000 years ago, even prophet Jesus (as) was born more than 2,000 years ago, so it is very very clear you confused between Jesus (pbuh and Ibrahim as) few thousands years ago:

1. by foot, or
2. on camel, or
3. on donkey

My question to you:
Now, can you tell me how Ibrahim (pbuh) traveled to jerusalem from ur, mesopotamia (today Iraq) where he was originally from?
The distance of Ur- jerusalem is farther than the distance jerusalem-makkah.
Also, I'm surprised that as a christian you never read your bible, for if you have read your bible, you would have known that Ibrahim (pbuh) traveled all over the region from mesopotamia to canaan to philistine to egypt to damascus to jazeera.
Now, can you tell me how Ibrahim (pbuh) traveled from egypt to damascus?
Even your bible tell the stories of Ibrahim, siti Hagar (as) and Ishmail (as) travel to paran/makkah where Ishmail (pbuh) was inspired and found the zam zam well in genesis 21:14:21

When you really don't know, please sincerely ask question, and you wouldn't look stupid, but if you copy and paste "questions" from Islamic hate sites, that would make you look stupid.

Hi Ramadhan


I know that Ibrahim travelled from Syria, to egypt and cannan but I am less sure by trvelling to Makka.

I am not confusing Jesus and Ibrahaim because about Ibrahim I said about 2 000 years

I read the bible but I am not Jew, not christians and not muslim I beleive in god the eternal god, the only one the one who has no name.

I do not know really how he travelled I will look for it and will tell you.

Following islamic teaching how Ibrahim went to Maaka ? give me some hadeets or veres in the quran ?

I told you I hate nobody I love all humans around the world, how I can hate somebody we are all from Adam.



Peace

[Ramadhan]

I know that Ibrahim travelled from Syria, to egypt and cannan but I am less sure by trvelling to Makka.

So whats actually your problem about Ibrahim (pbuh) traveling to Makkah when in genesis it is narrated also that he traveled to Bakkah and Paran with siti Hagar and Ishmail (pbut).

Now please explain to me how Ibrahim reached Canaan from Mesopotamia?

I am not confusing Jesus and Ibrahaim because about Ibrahim I said about 2 000 years

You are confusing them actually. Prophet Jesus (pbuh) lived about 2,000 years ago, while Ibrahim (pbuh) around 4,000 years ago.

Following islamic teaching how Ibrahim went to Maaka ? give me some hadeets or veres in the quran ?

There is no narration of the modes of travel of the prophets (PBUT) in the Qur'an, just pick up Al Qur'an, read it and you'll understand.

I told you I hate nobody I love all humans around the world, how I can hate somebody we are all from Adam.

Let's a have a hug and sing kumbaya.

[JOHNJOHN]

So whats actually your problem about Ibrahim (pbuh) traveling to Makkah when in genesis it is narrated also that he traveled to Bakkah and Paran with siti Hagar and Ishmail (pbut).

Now please explain to me how Ibrahim reached Canaan from Mesopotamia?



You are confusing them actually. Prophet Jesus (pbuh) lived about 2,000 years ago, while Ibrahim (pbuh) around 4,000 years ago.



There is no narration of the modes of travel of the prophets (PBUT) in the Qur'an, just pick up Al Qur'an, read it and you'll understand.



Let's a have a hug and sing kumbaya.

Peace Ramadhan


Bakkah is not the place of Maaka, Bakkah is the valley that they cross is not the final destination


Abraham reached Canaan by foot or donkeys or hosrses, but he did not cross a desert but places where people used to live and full of water.

Can you tell me how many liters, food, shoes ...... they needed to travel about 1 200 kilometers on that time with nobody living in the desert.


Peace.

[JOHNJOHN]

I bring some ahadeeths

Volume 4, Book 55, Number 582:

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
The Prophet said, "May Allah bestow His Mercy on the mother of Ishmael! Had she not hastened (to fill her water-skin with water from the Zam-zam well). Zam-zam would have been a stream flowing on the surface of the earth." Ibn 'Abbas further added, "(The Prophet) Abraham brought Ishmael and his mother (to Mecca) and she was suckling Ishmael and she had a water-skin with her.'





Volume 4, Book 55, Number 583:

Narrated Ibn Abbas:
The first lady to use a girdle was the mother of Ishmael. She used a girdle so that she might hide her tracks from Sarah. Abraham brought her and her son Ishmael while she was suckling him, to a place near the Ka'ba under a tree on the spot of Zam-zam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Mecca, nor was there any water So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. Ishmael's mother followed him saying, "O Abraham! Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)?" She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her Then she asked him, "Has Allah ordered you to do so?" He said, "Yes." She said, "Then He will not neglect us," and returned while Abraham proceeded onwards, and on reaching the Thaniya where they could not see him, he faced the Ka'ba, and raising both hands, invoked Allah saying the following prayers:
'O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Your Sacred House (Kaba at Mecca) in order, O our Lord, that they may offer prayer perfectly. So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allah) provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks.' (14.37) Ishmael's mother went on suckling Ishmael and drinking from the water (she had).







Read the ahadeets above and tell me how they reached Makka and from where ?






Peace.

[JOHNJOHN]

So whats actually your problem about Ibrahim (pbuh) traveling to Makkah when in genesis it is narrated also that he traveled to Bakkah and Paran with siti Hagar and Ishmail (pbut).

Now please explain to me how Ibrahim reached Canaan from Mesopotamia?



You are confusing them actually. Prophet Jesus (pbuh) lived about 2,000 years ago, while Ibrahim (pbuh) around 4,000 years ago.



There is no narration of the modes of travel of the prophets (PBUT) in the Qur'an, just pick up Al Qur'an, read it and you'll understand.



Let's a have a hug and sing kumbaya.

Peace


[2:126] And remember Abraham said: "My Lord, make this a City of Peace, and feed its people with fruits,-such of them as believe in Allah and the Last Day." He said: "(Yea), and such as reject Faith,-for a while will I grant them their pleasure, but will soon drive them to the torment of Fire,- an evil destination (indeed)!"


Fruits in Makkah


For me Abraham was not in Makka for asking Allah to grow fruits in the desert where nobody lived.



Peace.

[FS123]

Peace


[2:126] And remember Abraham said: "My Lord, make this a City of Peace, and feed its people with fruits,-such of them as believe in Allah and the Last Day." He said: "(Yea), and such as reject Faith,-for a while will I grant them their pleasure, but will soon drive them to the torment of Fire,- an evil destination (indeed)!"


Fruits in Makkah


For me Abraham was not in Makka for asking Allah to grow fruits in the desert where nobody lived.



Peace.

It is a prayer of Abraham (pbuh) to God it is figurative to mean prosperity. Abraham (pbuh) in his prayer is asking God to keep its people prosperous. And even though it is barren desert it has been prosperous throughout history one way or another.

Here are verses that are of value:

And convey good news to those who believe and do good deeds, that they shall have gardens in which rivers flow; whenever they shall be given a portion of the fruit thereof, they shall say: This is what was given to us before; and they shall be given the like of it, and they shall have pure mates in them, and in them, they shall abide.
Surely Allah is not ashamed to set forth any parable-- (that of) a gnat or any thing above that; then as for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their Lord, and as for those who disbelieve, they say: What is it that Allah means by this parable: He causes many to err by it and many He leads aright by it! but He does not cause to err by it (any) except the transgressors,

The connection between the nature of fruits constantly changing in taste to purified spouses in Paradise along with Allah not being 'ashamed to set forth any parable' is obvious. The disbelievers were trying to poke holes in the Quran at the parables God had used to explain the nature of a world never experienced before by human beings, i.e. "no human beings knows what is in store for them". Allah states quite clearly that he has no qualms in using what the disbelievers consider as 'trivial' such as a gnat to explain higher truths, which is the ultimate goal, and in the end, as the Quran says in another place, the disbelievers cannot even 'create a fly' and if the 'fly' were to snatch something from the food given to the idols, the disbelievers, let alone their gods, would never be able to retrieve it.

The main implication is that these poking holes was clearly an agenda, meant to divest away from the reality of the message as well as it's inimitability, which is alluded to a few verses up in the challenge to produce anything like the Quran. The Quran states that one can only profit from the Quran when one approaches it with seriousness and a desire to understand the truth.

In other places of the Quran, this same mentality is referred to regarding the disbelievers. For example, the "tree of zaquum" whose branches are like 'heads of devils' is called a 'trial for the disbelievers' in the Quran, the implication being, when the disbelievers heard about this, they stated "Look at Muhammad!!! He says Hell is a place of fire and boiling water, and at the same time, he is telling us that a tree can grow in it." In another instance, the Quran states that Hell has nineteen over it, and the disbelivers would argue, "Look at Muhammad!!! He says Hell is this vast place that will punish the disbelievers, and yet, only nineteen angels will maintain it. If such is the case, our own numbers will deal with these angels when we get there."

The Quran states that a believer increases in his faith when he heras such things, for he understands the might of God, as well as the fact that his powers are not limited by the extent of a 'person's thought'. As the Quran states in many instances, who was it that created the universe out of nothing in the first place? Is he not capable of creating another?

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