Empirical VS Accumilative Knowledge

[al yunan]

Salam to all,
Two main bodies of knowledge as per an Islamic view: 1. The empirical 2. The accumulative.
1. The empirical Knowledge as in experience combined with what is learned about Islam or what is learned through experience and then evaluated trough knowledge as to it's Islamic significance.
2. The accumulative knowledge as in remembrance of all that is learned and then to find it's practical significance in Islam.
In an analogy to evaluate the two an example:
One person has designs and detailed plans for a high tech house.
Another person has Building skills but no plans
One can definitely see that one without the other would be useless.

The perfect example of combined empirical and accumulative knowledge would be the prophet s.a.w.
He had to live through the revelations, sometimes, first by experiencing then shown the answer by revelation.

What occurred in later centuries amongst the scholars is well recorded in Islam's history.
I would like to mention one only example and that is Imam Malik rahimullah.
When he was asked as how come since he knew tens of thousands of Ahadith (some say 100,000 even more) he only used just over 7,000 (some of which where repetative); to which he replied that he only managed to experience that many. A example of that statement would be when he was asked once about the merits of freeing a slave he told that person to come for the reply the following week. When the person returned he asked the Imam how come you could not give me a reply straight away; to which the Imam replied "I had no slave to free so i had to purchase one then set him free so I could give you a better answer"

My question is, which of the two types of knowledge is the most accepted today and why ?
Masalam

[al yunan]

Assalamu Alaikum to all,

My first thread and not even one answer or anything !
Two weeks the cobwebs are amassing.
What can I say ?

Masalam

[ardianto]

One person has designs and detailed plans for a high tech house.
Another person has Building skills but no plans

The first one is Muslim activist. He has a design and detailed for ummah, such as plan to build zakat house, plan to build free hospital, etc.

Another one is Student of Knowledge. He has no plan like Muslim activist because his focus is teaching his knowledge.

[May Ayob]

I know you thoroughly expalined but i stilled don't understand what is the difference between the two , is it like Empirical- Learning from Chemistry class through expirements
Accumilative- learning chemsitry by reading the book and memorizing it?

thank you

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[May Ayob]

As for your questions from what i understood i think empirical would be most accepted today because it is more sincere and God knows best.

[al yunan]

The first one is Muslim activist. He has a design and detailed for ummah, such as plan to build zakat house, plan to build free hospital, etc. Another one is Student of Knowledge. He has no plan like Muslim activist because his focus is teaching his knowledge.

Assalamu Alaikum brother ardianto,

Mashallah, I must say I like the way you think, you have definite leanings to Ilmu Hikmah.
I especially liked the analogy.

Masalam

[al yunan]

I know you thoroughly expalined but i stilled don't understand what is the difference between the two , is it like Empirical- Learning from Chemistry class through expirements Accumilative- learning chemsitry by reading the book and memorizing it? thank you

Salam sister May Ayob,

Yes, that's pretty much it.
One is knowledge through experience and the other memorizing knowledge.

Masalam

[boriqee]

I know you thoroughly expalined but i stilled don't understand what is the difference between the two , is it like Empirical- Learning from Chemistry class through expirements
Accumilative- learning chemsitry by reading the book and memorizing it?

thank you

asalamu alaikum

you may want to give this a read so as to clarify the matter for you inshallah

http://forums.understanding-islam.co...l=1#post159333

asalamu alaikum

[May Ayob]

asalamu alaikum you may want to give this a read so as to clarify the matter for you inshallah http://forums.understanding-islam.co...l=1#post159333 asalamu alaikum

Wa alaikum al Salaam , Thank you very much for the link , Jazak Allah kahryn.