the U.N - protect or enslave?

[Abz2000]

i notice some people are still thinking the u.n is somehow going to do something to "help" mankind - despite it spying on all of Iraq's legitimate weapons capabilities before the u.s illegally invaded and later claiming that bush had tapped it's phones and communication lines,
not doing anything about the illegal u.s war which killed over a million innocent people,
approving a "no-fly zone" where nato bombs and mercenaries murdered people in houses, schools and hospitals,
and staged an illegal military coup d'état in which previous nato controlled mercenary Alqaeda members were installed and committed atrocities worthy of eternal ****ation - cutting out hearts, raping, murdering children and women and innocent men - no word from the u.n other than "concern" and calls for "restraint on both sides",
did you know that the first ever u.n "safe haven" in 1995 became the site of the worst massacre in Europe since world war II? the u.n just stood by and then held booze fuelled dances for the "peacekeepers" before they left,
did you know about the u.n war crimes in mogadishu?

[Nate]

UN bad, I dont like the idea of One World Gov, and that is what the UN leads to, then what 1984

[Trumble]

The UN hasn't shown the slightest ambition to become any sort of 'world government' since it's formation. As the very idea is total anathema to all five 'superpowers' (for this purpose the US, Russia, India, China and the EU) it's a total non-starter. The UN, incidently has no power whatsoever to stop any of those -possibly India excepted - doing whatever they wish. It's a talking shop.

The UN has no armed forces of its own. It can only deploy them when they are offered on the terms they are offered, and failure to do so or crimes commited when they are are the responsibility of the member nation concerned, not the UN. Countries unhappy with the conduct or inaction of others should step up to the plate, offer their own troops and argue for a mandate sufficient to do what needs to be done.

[Abz2000]

The UN hasn't shown the slightest ambition to become any sort of 'world government' since it's formation.

the un leads up to this slowly



The United Nations Headquarters complex was constructed in New York City in 1949 and 1950 beside the East River, on 17 acres (69,000 m²) of land purchased from the foremost New York real estate developer of the time, William Zeckendorf.
Nelson Rockefeller arranged this purchase,
after an initial offer to locate it on the Rockefeller family estate of Kykuit was rejected as being too isolated from Manhattan.
The $8.5 million purchase was then funded by his father, John D. Rockefeller, Jr., who donated it to the City.
The lead architect for the building was the real estate firm of Wallace Harrison,
the personal architectural adviser for the family.

In his book Memoirs, published in 2002, David Rockefeller, Sr. made the following remarks, startling in their very frankness:
"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents
such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family
for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions.
Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States,
characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists'
and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure
-- one world, if you will.
If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."


"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years.
It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years.
But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government.
The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
David Rockefeller Baden-Baden, Germany 1991