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syed1
11-01-2011, 04:17 AM
Salam brothers and sisters,

I have been trying to figure this out for a while now but I can't quite seem to understand it..instead of being ambiguous or generic I'll give you a specific example about a person I know...

This person is a muslim brother who's family is not very religious, and he him self is not so much either. You can consider this person a Muslim who occasionally makes it for Friday prayer but that's about it... This person is not the smartest person either in terms of school; he is able to get by..

Why does it feel like this person is blessed with so much while I feel he is undeserving of it all... He has always been blessed with a job and was able to get a nice bmw while in UNI. And recently he just obtained another job, one directly related to his field (finance) although he doesn't even have amazing grades...

I just find it strange that (and iv'e noticed this in many situations) people who are consuming themselves in this worldly life seem to be better off than those who are constantly praying, making dua etc.

I don't know what to do any more, quite frankly, I would say "mashallah" and be happy for my friends when good things happened to them even though they are not very religious...generally they are "good people" their not evil or anything... but occasionally they'll gamble, smoke weed, drink and mess around with girls but I was still genuinely happy for them... Now after finding out that this individual got a job directly related to his field which happens to be my field as well, quite honestly, it has made me envious and I know I shouldn't be but I just feel that its not fair that he is being blessed with all this....

I know the argument goes that Allah will give you what is best for you since he knows what is best and what is not ... for example, if you wish for a mercedes, and then you never get one, Maybe Allah actually did you a favor by not giving you a mercedes because if he had given you one you would of drove it really fast, crashed and killed someone..

Okay, sure you can agree to that to some extent... but that argument can't be used to justify every single situation- because surely there are things in peoples lives that has impacted them negatively...

Any ways, so..

I am trying me best to be a good Muslim, (I have commited some grave sins in the past) and I am trying to be a better muslim. I have begun praying 5 times a day and try to meet every obligation on time and if I don't I beat my self up for it...

But to be honest, my life seems to have been going down hill rather than up, in terms of happiness and self-fulfilment. I found that when I was engaging in lust and desires and not practising islam, I was actually better off, I was more happy, I had MORE opportunities presented to me and good things would happen to me, in general..

Lately it doesn't seem like any good things are happening to me, rather my friends and people who are not practising muslims are doing better of than me in terms of advancing in their career, social aspects and just in life overall...

This is really making me lose faith, although I know it shouldn't and I DO NOT PLAN TO STOP PRAYING but I have to admit, the thought does cross my mind.

So, why does it feel like good things are happen to bad people?
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syed1
11-01-2011, 10:08 PM
hm anyone have a clue?
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Alpha Dude
11-01-2011, 10:30 PM
In order to understand this, there are certain things you need to know and fully appreciate:

i. This life is temporary.
ii. The goal is the reward of the hereafter.
ii. The most beloved to Allah are those who he puts through more trials. InshaAllah others can furnish you with the relevent ahadith/verses

When Allah wills good upon someone, he will put that person through trials. If the trial a person is put through is sufficiently dire and the person is a muslim, eventually, he will start looking to Allah for help. He may lose his appetite. He may stop thinking about sinning and only think to please Allah to the best of his ability in order that Allah may listen to his requests. Therefore, Allah has in reality guided this person away from heedlessness/sins and guided his focus onto Allah instead. This is a good thing, despite what it seems on the superficial level.

Whereas a person who is not afflicted by such trials and persists to sin without a care in the world - does Allah wish good upon him or has Allah actually let that person go astray?

We can see that the first person is infinitely better in the sight of Allah and that's what matters most. Also, with every hardship we experience, our sins are decreased.

We have to look and think what the long-term result is of our experiences. In the end, we will be judged and the one with the most rewards and the one who is closest to Allah will be saved from punishment whereas the opposite will happen for those that Allah has not favoured.
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جوري
11-01-2011, 10:30 PM
9:55
فلا تعجبك أموالهم ولا أولادهم إنما يريد الله ليعذبهم بها في الحياة الدنيا وتزهق أنفسهم وهم كافرون
So let not their wealth or their children impress you. Allah only intends to punish them through them in worldly life and that their souls should depart [at death] while they are disbelievers.

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syed1
11-01-2011, 11:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
We can see that the first person is infinitely better in the sight of Allah and that's what matters most. Also, with every hardship we experience, our sins are decreased.

We have to look and think what the long-term result is of our experiences. In the end, we will be judged and the one with the most rewards and the one who is closest to Allah will be saved from punishment whereas the opposite will happen for those that Allah has not favoured.
Thanks for your response. I understand what you are saying that perhaps by putting one through trails and tribulations he is actually bringing you closer to God and lessening your sins. But for example in my specific case, I don't feel as if God has put me through any demanding challenge or tasks, I use to be a drug abuser, and have committed zina but I left all that behind and honestly, now I am just the "Average joe". I go to uni, i do my readings go home to my family eat pray sleep. In fact, when ever I go to UNI I spend a great deal of my time at the mosque because of its close proximity. But nonetheless, I feel that my duas aren't being answered and but at the same time its not like things are really bad either.. everythings just kinda how it is.. but my friends seem to be progressing and doing well for them selves.

bluebell - can you tell me the name of the surah, I would like to see it in its translation.

thanks
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جوري
11-01-2011, 11:29 PM
Sura 9 from where the written verse was quoted above the YouTube video..
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Alpha Dude
11-01-2011, 11:35 PM
But nonetheless, I feel that my duas aren't being answered and but at the same time its not like things are really bad either.. everythings just kinda how it is.. but my friends seem to be progressing and doing well for them selves.
There's two types of progress. One is wordly and the other is related to the religion. A person could be the most handsome and the most richest in the world but without due guidance all of it is meaningless. If you friend doesn't have guidance, what are you jealous for? In fact, you should be feeling pity for him and desiring he finds guidance.

About dua not being answered, see, when you make dua, you have to be 100 % convinced that Allah will listen to you. Allah is as we think him to be. If we ask something half-heartedly, then it won't be a very potent request at all. You ask Allah and you believe with conviction that your request is a done deal HOWEVER, at the same time, you realise that Allah is all wise and may withhold your request and either bestow it to you at a later date or reward you in the hereafter. Submit to the will of Allah over you.

Really, don't be envious of someone who has been given the world but is devoid of guidance (I don't say that to deride the brother).
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syed1
11-01-2011, 11:42 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ßlµêßêll
Sura 9 from where the written verse was quoted above the YouTube video..
Ok thankyou, it was from surah Tawbah. much appreciated!
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Abz2000
11-02-2011, 12:06 AM
yeah, and feel sorry for all those poor sods who have a life of hell and get tribulations come their way all the time, even though they're bound for hell.

people can get all their last wishes and even the best food when they're at the end of death row and about to be electrocuted.
you don't see the other inmates about to be released in a few months to enjoy the pleasures of freedom feeling jealous!

Also, they say: "Why is not this Qur'an sent down to some leading man in either of the two (chief) cities?"
Is it they who would portion out the Mercy of thy Lord? It is We Who portion out between them their livelihood in the life of this world: and We raise some of them above others in ranks, so that some may command work from others. But the Mercy of thy Lord is better than the (wealth) which they amass.
And were it not that (all) men might become of one (evil) way of life, We would provide, for everyone that blasphemes against ((Allah)) Most Gracious, silver roofs for their houses and (silver) stair-ways on which to go up,
And (silver) doors to their houses, and thrones (of silver) on which they could recline,
And also adornments of gold. But all this were nothing but conveniences of the present life: The Hereafter, in the sight of thy Lord is for the Righteous.
Quran 43:31-35
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جوري
11-02-2011, 12:09 AM
Sure I have even more soothing recitations of the sane surah like this but u thought knowing that having everything is meaningless in the scheme of things those people will be owed nothing in the hereafter...

:w:
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Hamza Asadullah
11-03-2011, 05:33 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by syed1
Salam brothers and sisters,

I have been trying to figure this out for a while now but I can't quite seem to understand it..instead of being ambiguous or generic I'll give you a specific example about a person I know...

This person is a muslim brother who's family is not very religious, and he him self is not so much either. You can consider this person a Muslim who occasionally makes it for Friday prayer but that's about it... This person is not the smartest person either in terms of school; he is able to get by..

Why does it feel like this person is blessed with so much while I feel he is undeserving of it all... He has always been blessed with a job and was able to get a nice bmw while in UNI. And recently he just obtained another job, one directly related to his field (finance) although he doesn't even have amazing grades...

I just find it strange that (and iv'e noticed this in many situations) people who are consuming themselves in this worldly life seem to be better off than those who are constantly praying, making dua etc.

I don't know what to do any more, quite frankly, I would say "mashallah" and be happy for my friends when good things happened to them even though they are not very religious...generally they are "good people" their not evil or anything... but occasionally they'll gamble, smoke weed, drink and mess around with girls but I was still genuinely happy for them... Now after finding out that this individual got a job directly related to his field which happens to be my field as well, quite honestly, it has made me envious and I know I shouldn't be but I just feel that its not fair that he is being blessed with all this....

I know the argument goes that Allah will give you what is best for you since he knows what is best and what is not ... for example, if you wish for a mercedes, and then you never get one, Maybe Allah actually did you a favor by not giving you a mercedes because if he had given you one you would of drove it really fast, crashed and killed someone..

Okay, sure you can agree to that to some extent... but that argument can't be used to justify every single situation- because surely there are things in peoples lives that has impacted them negatively...

Any ways, so..

I am trying me best to be a good Muslim, (I have commited some grave sins in the past) and I am trying to be a better muslim. I have begun praying 5 times a day and try to meet every obligation on time and if I don't I beat my self up for it...

But to be honest, my life seems to have been going down hill rather than up, in terms of happiness and self-fulfilment. I found that when I was engaging in lust and desires and not practising islam, I was actually better off, I was more happy, I had MORE opportunities presented to me and good things would happen to me, in general..

Lately it doesn't seem like any good things are happening to me, rather my friends and people who are not practising muslims are doing better of than me in terms of advancing in their career, social aspects and just in life overall...

This is really making me lose faith, although I know it shouldn't and I DO NOT PLAN TO STOP PRAYING but I have to admit, the thought does cross my mind.

So, why does it feel like good things are happen to bad people?
Asalaamu Alaikum, Brother firstly you or i are not in a position to judge the life of others. Be they poor, rich, handsome or ugly. We do not know what they go through on a daily basis. It maybe that a rich man although may look happy to you on the outiside but we know nothing about what turmoil or anguish he is going through in his life. You may look at a poor man but is may be completly content and happy with his life even more than the rich man.

Why are suicide rates in the west so much higher than anywhere else in the world? Even though the west has all of the riches in the world. Simply because people are not happy or content with their lives even though they may have wealth. Just a couple of months ago in the UK in London this millionnaire committed suicide. His family was asked his story and his mother said that he lived a normal life until he won a lot of money on th lottery. After that he bought himself a huge house and lived in it partying all of the time with his friends and he lived a life of indulgence. She mentioned sadly that out of the blue he just took his own life. When it was asked of her why her son did such a thing she said that if he did'nt win the lottery then he would still be alive today. When he won the lottery he bought whatever he wanted and he lived the high life but he was never happy. He died in a huge house all alone out of misery.

I also remember watching a documentary of a celebrity property developer who went to the slums of Bombay. He was astounded when he went there and what he had experienced. He said in a place of such poverty you would have thought that you would see people who would be miserable and depressed but they are so happy. He kept saying why are they so happy? He just could'nt understand why they were so much happier than people in the west. In the end he accepted that although these people may be the poorest people on earth but they were content and happy because they had family and friends around them and they had just about enough to survive and that was enough for them. That changed his whole perception of life because it taught him that money does not by happiness but happiness and contentment comes from other things like family, religion, feeling a sense of belonging etc.

Therefore you should never "judge" another and say just because he is rich he is happy or he is poor he is unhappy because you could not be more wrong. You do not know anything about a persons life and what they are going through and what they have experienced etc. We cannot look at another person and say they are happy even though we may always see them smile because what a person is truly going through we would never know. What is hidden inside is not necessery going to be reflected in the exterior of a person.

So accept the fact that you cannot judge who is happy or unhappy for that is something we are not aware of. We can only judge our own lives. Wealth and riches although they may bring some ease in a persons life certainly do not bring about satsifaction, contentment and happiness for it may be that a poor man has a much richer and fulfilling life than a rich man who although has all the riches in the world may live an empty existence.

So we are clear now that you can only judge your own life not the life of others. You also judged how some people are given easy or hard tests but again how can you truly know what kind of tests a person goes through throughout their lives?

A person does not just go through one or two tests in their lifetime but one goes through many tests all throughout ones life. A person may have a simple test one day and somewhere down the line get hit by a very hard test.

We all go through a varying degree of tests in our life. It doesn't mean that we are given one or two simple or hard tests. You or i will never know what kind of tests a person will go through in our lives. People do not always advertise their tests. If we were to know the kind of tests people are going through i promise we would all be shocked and think how would we ever have guessed that person is going through whay they are going through.

So my brother do not judge the life of others by what you see on the exteriour or what you hear about from others as you and i do not know how happy or sad they are throughout their lives and you and i do not know what kind of tests they will go through throughout their lives. You will only ever truly know about a fraction of a persons life and what they have been through as whatever is in the heart is hidden from us so again do not judge the life of others.

What you see on the outside is not necesserily what is reflected on what a person is feeling on the inside. Wealth does not bring happiness nor does beauty or health. A person who is poor, ugly or ill maybe much happier and content in their life than a person who is rich, A ugly person may have more contentment, happiness and peace in their heart than a person who is beautiful. An ill person may feel more contentment and happiness than a person who has health.

It maybe that a wealthy person loses their wealth. Or a healthy person loses their health. Or a beautiful person loses their beauty. We do not know what we have until its gone. None of these things cause lifelong happiness and so you or i cannot judge happiness or sadness in ones life based on these things.

You need to ask yourself what is the purpose of my life? Is it to live, work, marry have kids and die? No of course not and if you are Muslim then you would know that is not the answer. We are only created for one purpose and that is to worship Allah. Along our journey in life we will be tested. So in effect we are in a test ground. So obviously on a test ground we are going to be tested. Maybe right now you are being tested more than me. But maybe tomorrow or next week a bigger test may come to me and your test maybe eased. Life is full of varying degree of tests.

If you have an important exam then will you pass if you don't revise? The simple fact is that if you don't work hard and make the effort then you will fail. Therefore you will have to work very hard to pass your exams. Sameway we are in an examination but the only difference is it can end at any second as we are not aware when our exam will come to an end. So just like an examination there will be easier and harder tests. So if we want to pass we need to put the effort in and that applies to anything in life. You have to work hard to get what you want. Sameway if you want Paradise then you have to work for it.

But let me ask you something. our life is on average 70 years. Lets say your 30. You have on average 40 years left in this life. Now if you devote 40 years of your life to Allah then you will gain eternity of bliss in return. Is that fair?

40 years worship= Eternity in Paradise

That is very unfair. Why should we be given eternity of bliss in Paradise for only 40 to 50 years of devotion? That doesn't seem fair to me that we should be given so much for such little devotion. That is being too generous but Allah is the most generous. For just 40 - 50 years of suffering and patience he will give eternity of bliss in Paradise. That is like a few seconds compared to eternity.

Now if a person suffered more and was patient relying on Allah, invested more into the hereafter as in worshipping and pleased Allah and another person just did minimal as in prayed, fasted and kept away from major sin etc then is it fair that they both go to the same Paradise? Of course not and that is because there are many different levels of Paradise depending on how much one put into the hereafter and pleasing Allah. The more suffering one endures with patience and the more one invests into the hereafter the higher the rank of that person will be in Paradise. The difference between one Paradise to another is like this earth and when you look up at the night sky and the star that you see far far away.

So everyone will get what they are entitled to according to their situation and what they went through in life . That is something we cannot know or judge. Only Allah has that knolwedge for he is the best of all judges and Ais most just and true justice will ONLY happen in the next world.

Therefore we are getting SO much more in return for our short life in this world yet we still complain? In the hereafter the currency will be good deeds not money or gold. Once we see our deeds we will wish we went through so much more suffering and endured it for the pleasure of Allah just so that we can gain more good deeds.

So the Reward of going through difficult trials and hardships is so much more than the suffering that oen would have gone through!

Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah Allah's Messenger (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said, "On the Day of Resurrection, when people who have suffered affliction are given their reward, those who are healthy will wish their skins had been cut to pieces with scissors when they were in the world." (Al-Tirmidhi #1570)

We will wish we had invested so much more just so that could have had more good deeds. We will wish we were taken back to the earth so that we can live this life again just so that we can live a life pleasing Allah and doing good deeds but we will not be able to as this is our ONLY chance. We must NOT waste this one chance we have.

Shaythan is always trying to deter us from the right path and one of the ways he tries this is by telling us how unfair Allah is when in reality what we will get in return for our devotion and patience is WAY TOO MUCH than we deserve. It is a bit like your manager giving you a million pounds a day for the current job you are doing. The simple fact is will get MUCH more than we can ever comprehend for the little good we would have done in this world.

If we think deeply about the favours Allah has done for us for will never be able to comprehend his favours because they are too numerous. What is required of us is so little in return for what we will get inshallah. So let us realise that Allah has given us too too much for us to ever even think of thinking of him as being unfair. He created us so knows what is best for us.

And Allah knows best in all matters
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جوري
11-03-2011, 08:10 PM
I was just listening to suret Al'imran..

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Sahih International: And let not those who disbelieve ever think that [because] We extend their time [of enjoyment] it is better for them. We only extend it for them so that they may increase in sin, and for them is a humiliating punishment.



Sahih International: You will surely be tested in your possessions and in yourselves. And you will surely hear from those who were given the Scripture before you and from those who associate others with Allah much abuse. But if you are patient and fear Allah – indeed, that is of the matters [worthy] of determination.

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Endymion
11-04-2011, 01:04 PM
:sl:

What we need to learn at the first place is that "every thing" in this life is a test whether these are allurements or hardships.Its like this world is an examination hall and we all have different type of question papers.Sometimes we think that the questions other get are a bit easy but dont forget,they are also in a test.
The hardships of life are a test of "Sabr" and the blessings and allurements are a test of "Shukr".When Allah SWT send hardships on people,He SWT test them whether they will trust Him Almighty or just get disappointed.When He SWT send blessings to anyone,He SWT tests whether they will remember their Lord,Thank him or help the others with their money or not.
This Dunyah is Darul Amal not Darul Jaza.If Hardships of life were a sign of Allah SWT's anger,The Noble Prophets would be the richest and happiest among all but those were Prophets who faced difficulties more than any other human being.Just look at the life of Muhammad SAW.From birth to death,His life is full of griefs and sorrows.
If you just read Surah Al-Asr,you will know the Quran declared that All human are in a loss except those who have Faith, and did righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy.

And now you can easily understand when Momineens advice each other to have patience and constancy.

Salam.
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syed1
11-04-2011, 10:24 PM
^^ wow Mashallah, very well put. I really liked your metaphor to this life being similar to an examination hall..


you are right indeed, this life is about sabr, about being thankful of what you have and not being disappointed when you lack something..

thank you sister
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Hamza Asadullah
11-05-2011, 12:45 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by syed1
^^ wow Mashallah, very well put. I really liked your metaphor to this life being similar to an examination hall..


you are right indeed, this life is about sabr, about being thankful of what you have and not being disappointed when you lack something..

thank you sister
:sl:

If you want to learn more about the Islamic perspective of tests and hardships then please read the following thread:

How to get through hardships and tests in life.

http://www.islamicboard.com/advice-s...lems-life.html
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جوري
11-07-2011, 05:36 PM
Allah, Most High, says,
“There is not a single thing except that its depositories and treasures are with Us.” [al-Hijr (15): 21]
This verse contains one of the treasures [of the Qur’an], this being that nothing is sought except from the One who possesses its depositories and treasures, the One in whose hands lie the keys to these treasures. Seeking something from anyone else is to seek something from someone who neither possesses it nor has any authority over it.
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Abz2000
11-08-2011, 03:01 AM
yes sister - but the One Who has Authority also gave us rules of justice,
we cannot blame Allah for the evil of the Makkans and their treachery,
just like we cannot blame Allah if you kidnap someone and starve them to death.
He is the All Powerful whose help should be sought after we have done our part.
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