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User29123
11-02-2011, 06:50 PM
Salam

Israel are planning to attack Iran over its nuclear programme.

http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16101552


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hey say it will threaten the "Jewsish" state, yet they can build them...
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cuezed
11-02-2011, 10:40 PM
iran should attack israel for having nuclear weapons :raging:
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جوري
11-02-2011, 10:51 PM
Iran will make a formidable foe.. I don't think Israel will attack when they can get the U.S to do it for them.. that's why they're moving out of Iraq and desperate to also get out of Afghanistan.. but war fatigue is at an all time high and I don't think the people or economy will withstand it even with Israel going full force ahead with its vilification program.. In the next weeks to months undoubtedly they'll up the ante with acts to pin on Muslim 'extremists/terrorist/militant/ fundies' etc etc. question is are people still buying it? I have my doubts.. It is soon to backfire on them..

Much as I dislike the Iranian regime they'll be indeed a force to be reckoned with.. It will also not serve 'Jewish interest' to bomb Iran considering they house the largest number of Jews outside of the 'Israel'..

:w:
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Ghazalah
11-02-2011, 11:00 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ßlµêßêll
It will also not serve 'Jewish interest' to bomb Iran considering they house the largest number of Jews outside of the 'Israel'..
That's interesting.

Israel are trying all they can to divert attention from the illegal occupation of Palestine, if they do indeed end up attacking Iran then there won't be a word on Palestine for the next 5 years or so... Having said that, Iran are no push-over, and I believe Israel cannot single handled take down Iran, and so are hoping for a US intervention, which seems like a gamble tbh.
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Rabi Mansur
11-03-2011, 12:29 AM
:sl:
I worry that the Iranian regime with nuclear weapons will try to hasten the return of the Mahdi or pull some crazy stunt. I don't trust Ahmadinejad at all. On the other hand, if Israel can have nuclear weapons, why not Iran?
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Abz2000
11-03-2011, 01:31 AM
they are trying to take out all possible opposition in the region before armageddon,
however - it's not the just leaders we're after, it's mankind that needs to wake up before dying - and they're helping it happen themselves :)
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Ramadhan
11-03-2011, 03:15 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Rabi Mansur
:sl:
I worry that the Iranian regime with nuclear weapons will try to hasten the return of the Mahdi or pull some crazy stunt. I don't trust Ahmadinejad at all. On the other hand, if Israel can have nuclear weapons, why not Iran?
:sl:

when it's appointed time, Imam Mahdi will return, regardless of the actions of man. It's not because of Iran, or Isreal or the US, but it is because the decree of Allah SWT. Even if Iran will try everything to bring imam Mahdi, and Israel doing everything to rebuild the temple to bring back Al Maseeh, if Allah does not decree it's time, they will not come/return.
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User29123
11-03-2011, 04:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Ramadhan

:sl:

when it's appointed time, Imam Mahdi will return, regardless of the actions of man. It's not because of Iran, or Isreal or the US, but it is because the decree of Allah SWT. Even if Iran will try everything to bring imam Mahdi, and Israel doing everything to rebuild the temple to bring back Al Maseeh, if Allah does not decree it's time, they will not come/return.
Israel is surrounded by Muslims countries I don't think they want Iran to have Nuclear Bombs, or in fact any Muslim country to have Nuclear power, like this they won't be able to invade them! Saudi Arabia should start making them, US or Israel can't stop Saudi from building them cause Saudi is more or less secure country.
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truthseeker63
11-03-2011, 06:19 PM
This could start World War 3.
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User29123
11-03-2011, 06:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by truthseeker63
This could start World War 3.
Yup it could, I suggest you pack your bags and go hide in the nearest mountain! :exhausted
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sister herb
11-04-2011, 01:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by cuezed
iran should attack israel for having nuclear weapons :raging:
No thanks - by this they would destroy Palestine! Is that you what hope? Radioactive al-Aqsa?
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User29123
11-04-2011, 01:52 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sister harb
No thanks - by this they would destroy Palestine! Is that you what hope? Radioactive al-Aqsa?
If they did that they whole world would wake up and I think other Muslims countries would attack Israel. It's already getting to the point where people are now realizing about USA and Israel, look how they stopped the Unesco funding, because of Palestine joining UN, is this the US freedom?
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sister herb
11-04-2011, 02:57 PM
Salam alaykum

did the whole world wake up when Israel attacked nuclear plant in Iraq before?

No.

Why they would react now?
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Futuwwa
11-08-2011, 12:00 PM
Israel is bluffing, mark my words. They're making it appear like they're about to do it, to get the US or someone else to do it instead for them. Israel isn't invincible, an operation like that would be fraught with risk and uncertainty. Both in terms of whether they'd actually cause any significant damage, and in terms of survivability. A few downed and captured Israeli pilots would be a massive asset for Iran and a massive liability for Israel. A prospect that's quite likely, considering that Israel doesn't have any long-range strategic bombers and would have to refuel three times in mid-air during the whole operation.
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User29123
11-08-2011, 12:22 PM
I think Russia and China would step in, Russia is a good friend of Iran, so this won't go down that quick, plus why do Israel want USA to do it, why not do it them selfs?

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/russia-accuses-israel-of-using-dangerous-rhetoric-against-iran-1.394371


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Futuwwa
11-09-2011, 12:24 AM
Because the USA can do it, with very good chance of success. Israel cannot. USA has a massive airforce with tools for every job, and bases all around in the vicinity. Israel has an airforce that is of high quality, but which is lacking in size, and doesn't have strategic bombers. And doesn't have the necessary bases either to strike Iran without refueling three times in midair, which means they'd need a massive fleet of tanker aircraft to accompany the warplanes. Such a fleet would make for an easy target for the Iranian air defences and fighter forces.
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Futuwwa
11-09-2011, 12:26 AM
And no-one knows what Russia is really up to. Other than the obvious, which would be to guard its self-interest. I'd bet there are a great deal of backroom deals, negotiations and secret application of leverage going on. Anyone remember the SU-300 air defence system Russia was supposed to sell to Iran?
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جوري
11-09-2011, 12:29 AM
They'll need to get the Jews of Isfahan out first before they carry out that ambitious agenda.. whatever the case I wish ahel a'sunnah would take advantage of this should it transpire.. Iran is a formidable foe and anything that diverts attention while the rest of the ummah gets on its feet would be a good thing.. U.S war fatigue is at an all time high, not sure how much longer the Zionists can keep milking that cow but it would definitely spell in so many words a WWIII & insha'Allah a khilafah for the Muslim ummah.. got to wake that dormant lion up...
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Abz2000
11-09-2011, 01:21 AM
ahmedinejad himself has on numerous occasions stated that the nuclear bomb is an evil weapon - he even said it in his U.N speech (which the U.S and zionists walked out of).
i believe it's got more to do with the fact that if Iran get nuclear energy, they'll have lots of oil to sell to the world - and they won't fall prey to the loansharks so easily, since the main motive behind sanctions seems to be a way of opening a land to bankers.

According Washington experts, the much hyped IAEA nuclear intelligence estimate promised to deliver the smoking gun that could somehow turn into a mushroom cloud, but in fact, the report contained nothing more than pedestrian observations baked in with existing speculative western pro-war innuendo on the development of Iranian nuclear weapons.While the UN’s IAEA poses as a neutral party, its ambiguous case against Iran is then picked up and run with by Washington, Tel Aviv, London and the axis power’s newest power player, Nicholas Sarkozy in Paris.

The IAEA conclude that Iran has upgraded the level of enrichment from 3.5 per cent to just below 20 per cent.
Low-enriched uranium is accepted for use in nuclear power reactors, which Iran has always maintained is the function of its nuclear program.
The war hawks have naturally rushed to speculation, even though weapons-grade uranium is meant to be 90 per cent enriched.


http://www.infowars.com/no-smoking-g...t-on-its-face/
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Samiun
11-09-2011, 01:55 AM
:sl: why is Ahmadinejad not trustable? Did he owned US and Israel during the UN assembly?
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جوري
11-09-2011, 02:19 AM
Ahmadinejad has his own agenda, he's really no different than the U.S or Israel.. Shiites have never had common Muslim interest at heart nor have they been involved in Islamic affair. I am open to be corrected by the way.. but what role did they play in the Mongol invasion or the crusades? there were times when they actually conspired with the enemy against Muslims. The only reason they instated al'Azhar at all was to spread their shiite ideology .. al7mdlillah that Salah ad'deen al ayoubi put an end to all that.. In fact they took the opportunity of the Mongol invasion to split off from the ummah and start their own and they assassinated Muslims including and not exclusive to Omar ibn Ilkhtab (RA), they could never stand that under his reign a mighty powerful 300 year old dynasty was taken down in the span of three weeks not to mention all the cursing against the sahaba & to modern day arming shiites against Muslims, like in Syria. Honestly everyone knows the whole so-called Saudi assassination plot is B.S but if it would take the heat off those poor Syrians a while so be it..
I think they've too much pride and no understanding of Islam..

:w:
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Abz2000
11-09-2011, 03:35 AM
right now - i don't think it matters to those who have taken control of the u.s and those zionists who in turn control them - how misguided those who curse the companions may be,
they seem to be eager to remove any hindrance before the long awaited armageddon.
what they don't get is that we need a leaderless ummah who will be ready to unite under one banner.
amazingly - the most vocal ones whom they found to be a powerful threat were the ones who used socialist style rule - saddam and gaddafi, and now they're going after the ones who are also a little separate from the main body.
while the hypocrite leaders who grovelled to them and used the sunnah as their cover to pacify their people - these have been left alone so far.

so we see the previously socialist countries turning to Islam - and i believe the iranians will do so too quite soon,
adversity and suffering somehow unites people and throws off causes of division.

who is the best of planners?
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جوري
11-09-2011, 04:42 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by abz2000
who is the best of planners?
Allah swt is the best of planners..we should just take a backseat and watch for now..
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islamica
11-09-2011, 05:25 AM
I think all this is inevitable and is bound to happen. How else will the mahdi come and 70,000 jews arise out of Isfhan.
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NobleMuslimUK
11-09-2011, 07:30 AM
Asalaam walaikum,
The time is certainly nearing all signs point to it, People being mamed and killed with no shelter, women being raped, illicit sex in the open, homosexuality at an all time high, the devils voice has spread everywhere, the human devils growing in numbers. People going to sleep as believers and waking up as disbelievers(missing fajr cos sleep is more important), believer in the morning and disbeliever by the end of the day. Shirk in the ummah growing, alcohol and women singing is just trivial nothing alarming no more and so on...
We are almost there one major milestone and the rest will follow like beads falling off a necklace one after the other.
Jews have their power, and before they lose it they will use it. I hope all the muslim nations unite against israel.
We have seen israel occupy palestine for years and it has enraged the whole world, if they dare occupy a muslim nation, it may spark a huge reaction from the whole muslim world. So far they have got america to do their dirty work and occupy muslim lands jews providing support with their propaganda machine.

Allah knows best.
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Abz2000
11-09-2011, 01:02 PM
Weird, but that seems to be what they want,
They were installed there in the first place to divert the attention of the people and to avoid people seeing the British and Americans attacking palestinians near the end and knowing scripture was being fulfilled - thereby realizing who were the evil ones, so they install a fake Israel, arm it to the hilt and cause havoc in the region, get the nations to come out against it and people are deceived thinking the evil ones are attacking Israel, just as the scripture said.
A great deception, considering it isn't a religious state from the beginning.
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