format_quote Originally Posted by
Ramadhan
Early christians did not have the same theology.
Forgive my ignorance, but what was different? I thought that during Paul's life time is all early Christianity all the way until the time of Constantine. So what is specifically different before and after?
format_quote Originally Posted by
Ramadhan
Paul was the one who created the whole "god came down to earth and died because that is the only way god can redeem humans sins, and yet sins remain". This concept is never in the OT nor in the four canonical gospels and nor in any other hundreds gospels that were burned down and destroyed by nicea council and constantine.
Paul got all his information from the Scriptures Look at Isaiah 53 and look at 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Is 53 : Who has believed what he has heard from us?
[a]
And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2 For he grew up before him like a young plant,
and like a root out of dry ground;
he had no form or majesty that we should look at him,
and no beauty that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected
[b] by men;
a man of sorrows,
[c] and acquainted with
[d] grief;
[e]
and as one from whom men hide their faces
[f]
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he has borne our griefs
and carried our sorrows;
yet we esteemed him stricken,
smitten by God, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions;
he was crushed for our iniquities;
upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace,
and with his wounds we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
we have turned—every one—to his own way;
and the LORD has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted,
yet he opened not his mouth;
like a lamb that is led to the slaughter,
and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent,
so he opened not his mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away;
and as for his generation, who considered
that he was cut off out of the land of the living,
stricken for the transgression of my people?
9 And they made his grave with the wicked
and with a rich man in his death,
although he had done no violence,
and there was no deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it was the will of the LORD to crush him;
he has put him to grief;
[g]
when his soul makes
[h] an offering for guilt,
he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days;
the will of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11 Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see
[i] and be satisfied;
by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant,
make many to be accounted righteous,
and he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will divide him a portion with the many,
[j]
and he shall divide the spoil with the strong,
[k]
because he poured out his soul to death
and was numbered with the transgressors;
yet he bore the sin of many,
and makes intercession for the transgressors.