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User2024
11-26-2011, 11:41 AM
Salam,


Pakistan has blocked the vital supply route for Nato troops fighting in Afghanistan after Pakistani troops were killed in an attack allegedly by alliance aircraft.

Up to 28 soldiers died and 14 others were wounded in the strike at a checkpoint near Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, according to Reuters."We have halted the supplies and some 40 tankers and trucks have been returned from the check post,” senior government official Mutahir Zeb said.The US-led International Security Assistance Force (Isaf) confirmed knowledge of an incident and said: "We are aware that an incident did take place. We are still in the process of gathering information."Nato said it would "thoroughly investigate" the incident but Pakistan's foreign office condemned the pre-dawn Saturday raid.

"Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani has condemned in the strongest terms the Nato/Isaf attack on the Pakistani post," spokeswoman Tehmina Janjua said in a statement.
"On his direction, the matter is being taken (up) by the foreign ministry in the strongest terms with Nato and the US."
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جوري
11-26-2011, 05:27 PM
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PESHAWAR, Pakistan -- Pakistan on Saturday accused NATO helicopters and fighter jets of firing on two army checkpoints in the country's northwest and killing 24 soldiers. Islamabad retaliated by closing the border crossings used by the international coalition to supply its troops in neighboring Afghanistan.
The incident before dawn Saturday was a major blow to already strained relations between Islamabad and U.S.-led forces fighting in Afghanistan. It will add to perceptions in Pakistan that the American presence in the region is malevolent, and further fuel resentment toward the weak government in Islamabad for its cooperation with Washington.
It comes a little more than a year after a similar but less deadly strike near the Afghan border in which U.S. helicopters accidentally killed two Pakistani whom the pilots mistook for insurgents. Pakistan responded by closing the Torkham border crossing to NATO supplies for 10 days until the U.S. apologized.
On Saturday, Pakistan went further, closing both of the country's border crossings into landlocked Afghanistan. NATO trucks about 30 percent of the non-lethal supplies used by its Afghan-based forces through Pakistan. A short stoppage will have no effect on the war effort, but serves as a reminder of the leverage Pakistan has over the United States from the supply routes running through its territory.
A spokesman for NATO forces in Afghanistan, Brig. Gen. Carsten Jacobson, said it was "highly likely" that close air support called in by Afghan and coalition forces operating in the border area caused Pakistani casualties. NATO is investigating the incident to determine the exact details, he told BBC television.
Gen. John Allen, the top overall commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, said in a statement that his "most sincere and personal heartfelt condolences go out to the families and loved ones of any members of Pakistan security forces who may have been killed or injured."
Much of the violence in Afghanistan is carried out by insurgents that are based just across the border in Pakistan. Coalition forces are not allowed to cross the frontier to attack the militants. The militants, however, sometimes fire artillery and rockets across the line, reportedly from locations close to Pakistani army posts.
American officials have repeatedly accused Pakistani forces of supporting – or turning a blind eye – to militants using its territory for cross-border attacks. The border issue is the major source of tension between Islamabad and Washington, which wants to stabilize Afghanistan and withdraw its combat troops there by the end of 2014.
Pakistan army chief Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani "strongly condemned" the alleged attack on the two checkpoints, calling it a "blatant and unacceptable act," according to an army statement. It said the "unprovoked" attack was carried out by NATO helicopters and fighter jets, killing 24 soldiers and wounding 13 others. Pakistani soldiers responded in self-defense "with all available weapons," said the statement.

The two checkpoints were around 1,000 feet apart, and one of them was attacked twice, said a government official in Mohmand and a security official in Peshawar, the main city in Pakistan's northwest. Two officers were among the dead, they said, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to brief the media.
The attack happened around 2 a.m. on Saturday, Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani told reporters.
Ties between Washington and Islamabad already have been hard hit by the covert U.S. commando raid that killed Osama bin Laden in a Pakistani garrison town on May 2. The Pakistanis were outraged that they were not told about the operation beforehand, and now are even more sensitive about U.S. violations of the country's sovereignty.
Gilani summoned U.S. Ambassador Cameron Munter to protest the alleged NATO attack, according to a Foreign Ministry statement. It said the attack was a "grave infringement of Pakistan's sovereignty" and could have serious repercussions on Islamabad's cooperation with NATO. Pakistan has also lodged protests in Washington and NATO headquarters in Brussels, it said.
A Pakistani customs official told The Associated Press that he received verbal orders Saturday to stop all NATO supplies from crossing the border through Torkham in either direction. The operator of a terminal at the border where NATO trucks park before they cross confirmed the closure. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.
Saeed Ahmad, a spokesman for security forces at the other crossing in Chaman in southwest Pakistan, said that his crossing was also blocked following orders "from higher-ups."
The U.S., Pakistani, and Afghan militaries have long wrestled with the technical difficulties of patrolling a border that in many places is disputed or poorly marked.
Saturday's incident took place a day after a meeting between NATO's Gen. Allen and Pakistan army chief Gen. Kayani in Islamabad to discuss border operations.
The meeting tackled "coordination, communication and procedures between the Pakistan Army, ISAF (intelligence services) and (the) Afghan Army, aimed at enhancing border control on both sides," according to a statement from the Pakistani side.
The checkpoints that were attacked had been recently set up in Mohmand's Salala village by the army. They were intended to stop Pakistani Taliban militants holed up in Afghanistan from crossing the border and staging attacks, said two local government administrators, Maqsood Hasan and Hamid Khan.
The U.S. helicopter attack that killed two Pakistani soldiers on Sept. 30 of last year took place south of Mohmand in the Kurram tribal area. A joint U.S.-Pakistan investigation found that Pakistani soldiers fired at the two U.S. helicopters prior to the attack, a move the investigation team said was likely meant to notify the aircraft of their presence after they passed into Pakistani airspace several times.
Pakistan moved swiftly after the attack to close Torkham to NATO. Suspected militants took advantage of the impasse to launch attacks against stranded or rerouted trucks carrying NATO supplies.
Senior U.S. diplomatic and military officials eventually apologized for the attack, saying it could have been prevented with greater coordination between the U.S. and Pakistan. Pakistan responded by reopening the border crossing.
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Abbot reported from Islamabad. Associated Press writers Anwarullah Khan in Khar, Pakistan, Matiullah Achakzai in Chaman and Deb Reichmann in Kabul, Afghanistan contributed to this report.


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Tilmeez
11-26-2011, 05:54 PM
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جوري
11-26-2011, 06:01 PM
NATO is our friend they lovvvvvvvvvvvvvvve Muslims
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aadil77
11-26-2011, 06:26 PM
pak government are too wuss to do anything in retaliation

even this supposed cut of supply convoys was to keep them 'safe' from attacks by militants
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Haya emaan
11-26-2011, 07:29 PM
friendship with the enemies of Islam will bring more worst then this

don't know when our leaders will realize this...




O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people. [5:51]
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User2024
11-26-2011, 08:16 PM
NATO will give Pakistan money they will take it and eat it that's eat.
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alpharius
11-29-2011, 12:09 PM
Now that most supply lines are going through Russia, the US can afford to become antagonistic towards Pakistan. There is probably talk among US military officials that Pakistan is now an enemy.

Pakistan should tred carefully. Since they have been receiving $5 Billion in military aid from the US, it would be simple for Obama to pull the plug on Pakistan and give those funds to India.
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Hamza Asadullah
11-29-2011, 12:29 PM
Originally Posted by alpharius
Now that most supply lines are going through Russia, the US can afford to become antagonistic towards Pakistan. There is probably talk among US military officials that Pakistan is now an enemy.

Pakistan should tred carefully. Since they have been receiving $5 Billion in military aid from the US, it would be simple for Obama to pull the plug on Pakistan and give those funds to India.
The US still needs Pakistan more then Pakistan needs the US. The "aid" money the US sends,to any country is used to buy out the government so they become puppets of the US, it is not a charity. It doesnt benefit the people at all but just makes the top government officials that much richer.

Russia is also now threatening to cut off NATO supply routes because of the NATO shield which is clearly a threat to Russia. The US need to tread their feet very carefully as Pakistan is no Iraq or Afghanistan and is also a nucleur power. Its army is very powerful and they will not accept anymore alleged "mistakes" from the US.

The US are well known backstabbers. They used Bin Laden and Saddam then stabbed them.in the back when they didnt need them anymore. They will do the same to any country. Use them to achieve their agenda then stab them in the back. Anyone who spends even a little time researching these facts will know what pure evil they represent. They care not for their bewildered citizens but for the interests of the zionists who have bought them out.

Good will always overcome evil in the end.
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alpharius
11-30-2011, 12:08 PM
Originally Posted by Hamza Asadullah
Russia is also now threatening to cut off NATO supply routes because of the NATO shield which is clearly a threat to Russia. The US need to tread their feet very carefully as Pakistan is no Iraq or Afghanistan and is also a nucleur power. Its army is very powerful and they will not accept anymore alleged "mistakes" from the US.
I see your point, but consider this. Russia fought a war in afghanistan and would not want to entertain the idea of Jihadis running a country on their flank. The Russians supported the Nothern Alliance for years and allowed the US to come in and support them after 9/11 in 2001. It would serve the Russians well to support NATO in Afghanistan if only so that Russian troops do not need to be deployed there. The Russians have fought many wars against Jihadis in Chechnya so their strategic calculation would be to support anti-taliban efforts in Afghanistan.
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aadil77
11-30-2011, 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by alpharius
I see your point, but consider this. Russia fought a war in afghanistan and would not want to entertain the idea of Jihadis running a country on their flank. The Russians supported the Nothern Alliance for years and allowed the US to come in and support them after 9/11 in 2001. It would serve the Russians well to support NATO in Afghanistan if only so that Russian troops do not need to be deployed there. The Russians have fought many wars against Jihadis in Chechnya so their strategic calculation would be to support anti-taliban efforts in Afghanistan.
Taliban have run the country for decades, not once have they tried to attack russia

so your point goes out the window
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