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Darth Ultor
12-16-2011, 04:15 PM
Okay, I'll be frank here. There was never a Kingdom, Emirate, or Republic of Palestine. There was never a Palestinian culture, a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian ethnicity. It was a landmass part of the greater Caliphate and later Britain until it became Israel. There was no sense of Palestinian identity for a long time but the fact remains that there is a sense of identity now. Thus the Palestinians deserve an independent state. Asking the Israelis to leave the land now would be like asking all non-Natives Americans to leave the US and Canada. It's not gonna happen.

Let's come up with a reasonable solution here because God knows the bloodshed is getting us nowhere and our leaders aren't helping. First we start with a ceasefire. I say all of Gaza, all of the West Bank, and East Jerusalem should be a Palestinian state. Israel withdraws all its troops from those areas and takes down all the Jewish settlements. Then allow free travel between both states because the Jews and Muslims have holy sites all over the place. After that, they can start talking about a peace treaty and its terms. Easier said than done but those who are tired of all the death would be willing to negotiate.
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melonkali
12-16-2011, 08:01 PM
Originally Posted by Darth Ultor
Okay, I'll be frank here. There was never a Kingdom, Emirate, or Republic of Palestine. There was never a Palestinian culture, a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian ethnicity. It was a landmass part of the greater Caliphate and later Britain until it became Israel. There was no sense of Palestinian identity for a long time but the fact remains that there is a sense of identity now. Thus the Palestinians deserve an independent state. Asking the Israelis to leave the land now would be like asking all non-Natives Americans to leave the US and Canada. It's not gonna happen.

Let's come up with a reasonable solution here because God knows the bloodshed is getting us nowhere and our leaders aren't helping. First we start with a ceasefire. I say all of Gaza, all of the West Bank, and East Jerusalem should be a Palestinian state. Israel withdraws all its troops from those areas and takes down all the Jewish settlements. Then allow free travel between both states because the Jews and Muslims have holy sites all over the place. After that, they can start talking about a peace treaty and its terms. Easier said than done but those who are tired of all the death would be willing to negotiate.
Good post. I like your idea for a reasonable solution -- but playing the devil's advocate, the main objection raised against it, from the Israelis, would be the unfettered presence of Hamas, would it not? How would you answer that? rebecca
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جوري
12-16-2011, 08:36 PM
Newt should only exist in a witch's cauldron the man is a complete Buffoon addressing other buffoons at the beckoning of the Zionists that control the scene.

the land of Palestine was "supposedly" promised to the seed of
Abraham. If one researches the Ancient Hebrew laws, the right of decent or
inheritance is based on the eldest son, no matter whom the mother is. If
this is the case, then the land was promised to Ishamel (for he was the
eldest of Abraham's sons) and the Father of Palestinian Arabs. In addition,
modern day Jews from Russia, Poland and most parts of Eastern Europe have NO
genetic link to the ancient Hebrews - they for the most part are decendents
of Khazars, who converted to Judaism in the 7th century (this has been
documented by Jewish scholars, not Arabs). The modern day Palestinians can
claim a more direct link to the Hebrew tribes than the founders of modern day
"Israel." What the Western Press purposely avoids mentioning is the fact
that at the start of the 20th century, less than 5% of the land of Palestine
was Jewish. The modern State of Israel was built on lands illegally taken and
assimilated from Palestinian Christians and Muslims. Also, the Hebrews only
ruled the land of Palestine for a combined 411 years - the Muslims have ruled
the land for 1,500 years. In addition, the land of Canaan (Palestine) had a
history long before the Jewish tribes immigrated to the area.
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Muezzin
12-16-2011, 09:37 PM
Is Newt Gingrich even serious about running for President or is it just a ploy to boosts sales of his book?

Please don't buy his book. It will lose you money and make you thick.
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Dagless
12-16-2011, 09:52 PM
Originally Posted by Darth Ultor
Okay, I'll be frank here. There was never a Kingdom, Emirate, or Republic of Palestine. There was never a Palestinian culture, a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian ethnicity. It was a landmass part of the greater Caliphate and later Britain until it became Israel.
The only people who think this are zionists. Of course there was a Palestine; it's been documented and referred to many times over the last few thousand years. They have photos and everything ;) It was actually Palestine when the British administered it too (hence British Mandate for Palestine). American people are more made up than Palestinians if you want to think of it like that. I may as well steal a few acres on one of the Channel Islands... since the people there are obviously also made up.

It seems like a rule that every republican candidate must be certified crazy. Luckily Ron Paul didn't get a copy of the rules yet.
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جوري
12-16-2011, 09:56 PM
Originally Posted by Dagless
It seems like a rule that every republican candidate must be certified crazy
That part made me lol out loud.. God bless you, you seem to give the benefit of the doubt to those repuke con candidates with their all too frequent attempts at re-writing history.. Seems perhaps the American public has the memory span of a goldfish.. so perhaps this too will come to pass with the next concoction ...

:w:
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GuestFellow
12-16-2011, 10:56 PM
Some Republicans are really...annoying.
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Abz2000
12-17-2011, 03:42 AM
more like he's a made up presidential candidate just like the rest of 'em
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