format_quote Originally Posted by
Gator
Iraq was wrong. I didn't want to go in, I was against it, I thought it would go badly. But once we were in, I believe we couldn't just pick up and leave. The bloodbath that would have ensued had we left in 2004 or 2006 would have be a disaster.
Really? How do you figure?
Survey ..................Violent deaths .....Excess deaths
ILCS .................... 180,000
Lancet 1 ..............400,000 ..................580,000
IFHS .....................350,000 ..................840,000
Lancet 2 ..............1,370,000 ..............1,480,000
ORB .....................1,370,000
http://archive.truthout.org/how-many...ife-earth62112
those are the stats with the U.S in.. of course with a carte blanche to kill scholars and scientists!
Pakistan: Let's say the US had a region (Texas) that was not under control of any sort, harbored a large horrific theocratically motivated insurgency that not only threatened a neighboring state, but threatened the US. Do you think that I would have a problem with the Chinese sending drones to kill them? No.
We don't peddle in American concocted theories when it comes to human life unless of course you're the U.S.. obviously the U.S created the whole WMD fiasco for their own self-interest. There are no borders between Muslims, those are western created and imposed and every attempt to reunite has been nipped in the bud by foreign mercenaries.
Saudi: There is no troop presence in Saudi Arabia. Are you saying that the Saudis don't have a functioning government, is occupied by a huge american army which is patrolling the streets?
It doesn't have to be patrolled in the very literal sense-- willful ignorance or just under-educated in the art of war?
Yemem: There is no large troop presence in Yemen. See above.
What was your 'American ambassador' doing in Yemen when the people marched bare foot to protest your pawn Saleh? let me quote pls.
''calling the Taiz march a provocative act, shortly before troops opened fire on
protesters''
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7BS0M420111229
your see above is an epic fail as is everything you write!
Um are you saying that there is still military bases all over Iraq, with a large american force still stationed in them?
How exactly would you view it, in your uber strategic mind?
The Contractors are bound by Iraqi laws as the SOF agreement has ended. There are few of them with more than half truck drivers and food preparers.
And that showed brilliantly before when food was being dispensed with bombs all the same.
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1030-11.htm
There's a scheduled pullout from Afghanistan in place.
Do get back to us with that one and let's know how successful that was!
The bottom line is the US has left Iraq and will leave Afghanistan.
The bottom line is your full of it and have no place discussing politics..
best,