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I asked you to show me a verse which says no wali for man from the quran and Sahih hadith and so far you have failed to do that
There are many rulings not explicitly stated in Qur'an and hadeeth but that are implied in them, that scholars agree on.
If you try to look for an ayah or hadeeth that explicitly says, "A grown man does not need a wali" my gut feeling is that you won't find one. However, if there isn't one that says this, it doesn't mean that there aren't any with that meaning.
I believe that there is a verse that implies that women need a wali but men don't, in the way it's worded.
This is the verse:
وَلاَ تَنْكِحُواْ الْمُشْرِكَـتِ حَتَّى يُؤْمِنَّ وَلأَمَةٌ مُّؤْمِنَةٌ خَيْرٌ مِّن مُّشْرِكَةٍ وَلَوْ أَعْجَبَتْكُمْ وَلاَ تُنكِحُواْ الْمُشِرِكِينَ حَتَّى يُؤْمِنُواْ وَلَعَبْدٌ مُّؤْمِنٌ خَيْرٌ مِّن مُّشْرِكٍ وَلَوْ أَعْجَبَكُمْ أُوْلَـئِكَ يَدْعُونَ إِلَى النَّارِ وَاللَّهُ يَدْعُواْ إِلَى الْجَنَّةِ وَالْمَغْفِرَةِ بِإِذْنِهِ وَيُبَيِّنُ آيَـتِهِ لِلنَّاسِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَذَكَّرُونَ
Muhsin Khan
And do not marry Al-Mushrikat (idolatresses, etc.) till they believe (worship Allah Alone). And indeed a slave woman who believes is better than a (free) Mushrikah (idolatress, etc.), even though she pleases you. And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikun till they believe (in Allah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater, etc.), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikun) invite you to the Fire, but Allah invites (you) to Paradise and Forgiveness by His Leave, and makes His Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to mankind that they may remember.
Pickthall
Wed not idolatresses till they believe; for lo! a believing bondwoman is better than an idolatress though she please you; and give not your daughters in marriage to idolaters till they believe, for lo! a believing slave is better than an idolater though he please you. These invite unto the Fire, and Allah inviteth unto the Garden, and unto forgiveness by His grace, and expoundeth His revelations to mankind that haply they may remember.
Yusuf Ali
Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise.
(Surah al Baqarah, verse 221)
The word used after laa (meaning "do not"), is t
ankihoo, which means "
do not marry", do not marry the mushrik women.
The second time, the word used in t
unkihoo, which, with the change of the fat'hah (zabar) to a dammah (pesh), means "
do not give in marriage", do not give in marriage to mushrik men.
This shows that men marry by themselves, but women are given in marriage. Who gives a woman in marriage? Her wali. i.e. men don't need a wali, but women do.
If a man needed a wali, the word used would have been the same on both occasions, i.e. t
unkihoo.
While we do not use non-Muslim society as an example, it is a custom and one of the ways of the world, even in British culture, that brides are "given away" by a male guardian, and, until recently, the prospective groom himself would ask the prospective bride's father/guardian for his permission to marry his daughter/ward, and the marriage could only take place if permission was given.
And all the hadeeth relating to needing a wali, refer to women/girls.
Rasooolullah :saws: never said, neither does the Qur'an, neither did the sahaabah or scholars, that a man needs a wali.
And Allah knows best in all matters.
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