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Periwinkle18
02-11-2012, 07:08 PM
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shiekh muhammad al arifi

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alpharius
02-13-2012, 12:08 PM
It is going to be a challenge to overthrow the Syrian government. They have the support of Iran and you can bet that Hezbollah will be throwing in their lot to keep the regime in place. You can bet the regime will not go down without a fight.
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alpharius
02-14-2012, 12:04 PM
There is great debate about whether or not the US and regional allies such as Saudi Arabia and Turkey should support the Syria uprising. The main reason to support the uprising is to cut off an ally to Iran, and therefore cut off support to Hezbollah which uses Syria as a supply line. The US needs to restore a regional balance between the Sunnis and Shiites after the war in Iraq has greatly increased Shiite power.

On the other hand, there are fears that Jihadis such as Al Qaeda would gain traction in Syria and use it as a base to launch terrorist attacks within the Middle East. It would be complex to somehow support the uprising and roll back Iran`s influence, but at the same time purge all jihadi influence in the country.
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Abz2000
02-14-2012, 12:54 PM
actually it's a lot more complicated than you try to make out alpharius,

the people may have their problems with the assad government but that is not why the criminal zionists and the debauched u.s government are opposing him while pretending to support the people by showing their concerns.
actually the u.s governement have killed millions over the past decade without the u.n bringing together a coalition to remove them from iraq which the u.n general annan himself publicly stated was illegal, and everyone knows about the war crimes of the zionists too and how much regard they have for international perception and human rights.

Assad has been a thorn in the side of the zionists for a while now over the golan heights and support for hezbollah and strategic alliance with iran.
they did not complain much when saudi arabia sent troops into bahrain to quell dissent but seem to be overflowing with love for the syrian people?
actually they hate the syrian people more than they care to show, here's a little background on recent events:

Syria continued to demand a full Israeli withdrawal to the June 4, 1967 borders, including a strip of land on the east shore of the Sea of Galilee that Syria captured during the 1948–49 Arab-Israeli War and occupied from 1949–67. Successive Israeli governments have considered an Israeli withdrawal from the Golan in return for normalization of relations with Syria, provided certain security concerns are met. Prior to 2000, Syrian president Hafez al-Assad rejected normalization with Israel.

In late 2003, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said he was ready to revive peace talks with Israel. Israel demanded Syria first disarm Hezbollah, which launched many attacks on northern Israeli towns and army posts from Lebanese territory, and cease to host militant Palestinian groups and their headquarters. Talks were not initiated.

In June 2007, it was reported that Prime Minister Ehud Olmert had sent a secret message to Syrian President, Bashar Assad saying that Israel would concede the land in exchange for a comprehensive peace agreement and the severing of Syria's ties with Iran and militant groups in the region.[103] On the same day, former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced that the former Syrian President, Hafez Assad, had promised to let Israel retain Mount Hermon in any future agreement.
(see how they would have made syria a sitting duck for a future attack, despite the golan being stolen syrian land in the first place?)


In April 2008, Syrian media reported Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan told President Bashar al-Assad that Israel would withdraw from the Golan Heights in return for peace.[105][106] Israeli leaders of communities in the Golan Heights held a special meeting and stated: "all construction and development projects in the Golan are going ahead as planned, propelled by the certainty that any attempt to harm Israeli sovereignty in the Golan will cause severe damage to state security and thus is doomed to fail". [107] That year, a plenary session of the United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution 161–1 in favour of a motion on the Golan Heights that reaffirmed Security Council resolution 497 and called on Israel to desist from "changing the physical character, demographic composition, institutional structure and legal status of the occupied Syrian Golan and, in particular, to desist from the establishment of settlements [and] from imposing Israeli citizenship and Israeli identity cards on the Syrian citizens in the occupied Syrian Golan and from its repressive measures against the population of the occupied Syrian Golan." Israel was the only nation to vote against the resolution.[108] Indirect talks broke down after the Gaza War began. Syria broke off the talks to protest Israeli military operations. Israel subsequently appealed to Turkey to resume mediation.[109]

In March 2009, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad claimed in a newspaper interview that indirect talks had failed after Israel failed to make a commitment to withdraw from all of the Golan Heights. In an August 2009 speech during Army Day, he said that the return of the entire Golan Heights was "non-negotiable", and said that it would remain "fully Arab", and would be returned to Syria.[114]


In June 2009, Israeli President Shimon Peres said that Syrian President Assad would have to negotiate without preconditions, and that Syria would not get any territorial concessions from Israel on a "silver platter" as long as it maintained ties with Iran and Hezbollah.[115] In response, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem demanded that Israel unconditionally cede the Golan Heights "on a silver platter" without any preconditions, adding that "it is our land," and blamed Israel for failing to commit to peace. Syrian President Assad claimed that there was "no real partner in Israel."

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so we can see that it is a lot more complicated than they make out and the u.s government is certainly not the upholder of human rights it makes itself out to be when it suits it's agenda, rather it is the biggest fomentor of violence across the globe and is also a parasite that sells arms and makes money off the blood of this planet.

We may have our problems with Assad but we must not let that be a cause to allow the wolves to kill the country like they killed Iraq Afghanistan and Lybia,
they know that if they are able to destabilize Syria, it will become another hollow puppet state even worse than it already is, and they'd like to install a total zionist puppet if possible.

this is the video i liked myself, we need khilafah, not new u.s government enforced zionist controlled puppets in place of one despot who still refused to sell out to them totally:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkg2RAwwe5Q


my dad used to tell us a proverb when we were little and it still has an effect on me,
it goes like:
a wise enemy is better than a treacherous friend.
well it seems that Assad has become the wise enemy and the zionists and their hound-dog u.s government is trying to be the treacherous friend.

i'm not saying we don't need to replace assad with Khilafah, i am however saying that these treacherous "friends" are fomenting violence around the globe in order to destabilize any country whose leader doesn't obey their every command.





and guess wot?

yup, erik prince the owner of xe (formerly blackwater) was welcomed in by uae to begin hiring and training mercenary groups who are to hire and train other mercenaries, also interestingly enough, he appeared there with the blessing of the u.s government as the arab spring began.

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates — Late one night last November, a plane carrying dozens of Colombian men touched down in this glittering seaside capital. Whisked through customs by an Emirati intelligence officer, the group boarded an unmarked bus and drove roughly 20 miles to a windswept military complex in the desert sand.


The army is based in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates, but will serve all the emirates.
The Colombians had entered the United Arab Emirates posing as construction workers. In fact, they were soldiers for a secret American-led mercenary army being built by Erik Prince, the billionaire founder of Blackwater Worldwide, with $529 million from the oil-soaked sheikdom.


Mr. Prince, who resettled here last year after his security business faced mounting legal problems in the United States, was hired by the crown prince of Abu Dhabi to put together an 800-member battalion of foreign troops for the U.A.E., according to former employees on the project, American officials and corporate documents obtained by The New York Times.


The force is intended to conduct special operations missions inside and outside the country, defend oil pipelines and skyscrapers from terrorist attacks and put down internal revolts, the documents show. Such troops could be deployed if the Emirates faced unrest in their crowded labor camps or were challenged by pro-democracy protests like those sweeping the Arab world this year.

there are reports coming out of syria, just as with libya of terrorist groups shooting at police, army AND protesters.
i wonder who would be doing that?
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esperanza
02-16-2012, 09:45 AM
assalamalaykum ,,
for sure it is more complicated than people imagine,,
but its wrong to assume this is just another western backed revoulution being stirred up to provke another war...
there are thousands of syrina people sick of thier regime,thousands being innicently killed and tortured not by cia agents but by governemnt forces..thats the reality
its the governemnt luanching all out war,,,on homs and hama,,not the west

so what do you think we should just sit by while sunni muslims Are massacared,,if the muslims dont want westenr intervention then let muslims,,act,,
a number of shiekhs have already spoke for jihad in support of the syrian people

why re people quicker to blame the west that to actually condemn the antiislamic regime which is perescuting its own people
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Abz2000
02-16-2012, 10:21 AM
you are correct sis, i believe and see the regime committing atrocities, and that Muslims all over the globe are seeing the evil fruits of secularism.
which is why i feel the time is ripe for the Muslims to unite.
we can do this with the help of Allah, but getting another one of those western backed puppet governments is a joke.
all they'd do is install a fake apologetic government that agrees to cut itself off from Hezbollah and Iran, and welcomes in western mercenaries so it doesn't even look like an occupation,
One is a powerful Islamic group that is able to muster volunteers ready to die for their cause, and another has a vast well armed army to help protect it's borders.
the only other way out of this is a pan-Islamic caliphate that absorbs all these qualities under one body and responds to the suffering of the believers as one body, and it's round the corner if we are willing to sacrifice and say HasbunAllahi wa ni'mal wakeel,
it won't be easy and much suffering is ahead once this happens, but the ultimate triumph is for Allah and the believers. :)


remember how they deceived people and occupied libya, and killed millions of our brothers and sisters in iraq after removing their own previous ally saddam?





6000 USA Mercenaries have come to Mitiga Air Base 10km of Tripoli on Tuesday early morning 17th january 2012.


They came from Malta where they have been waiting a few days to start operations to secretly invade and settle at "important" locations and fight against opposing Libyans. They install mobile camps around the refineries and libyan oil outlets.
In order to have complete control over refineries and oil sources , they have brought their own foreign technicians.

So the US and other foreign Corporations can plunder the oil of the Libyan People without being accountable to their owners or anything impacting them .

It is another assault and armed robbery of the Libyans while the international media and Western hide these further Crimes or being silent to support.

Approximately 3/4 of the libyan people do NOT support the NATO-Puppet NTC and NATO has killed and supported the killing of many more libyans than the previous Gaddafi government!
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GodIsAll
02-17-2012, 06:51 PM
Generally speaking, does the Muslim community support the overthrow of the current Syrian government?

If the overthrow occurs, what kind of government do you see replacing the current regime? Who (person) would head the new state?

(Of course, I could always consult the media, but I would rather hear it from people close and personal with the situation).
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Abz2000
02-26-2012, 02:54 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by GodIsAll
Generally speaking, does the Muslim community support the overthrow of the current Syrian government?

If the overthrow occurs, what kind of government do you see replacing the current regime? Who (person) would head the new state?

(Of course, I could always consult the media, but I would rather hear it from people close and personal with the situation).
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Hamza Asadullah
03-01-2012, 02:52 AM
I hope this is a proper uprising for Islam and Muslims unlike the "uprising" of the Libyian people which has resulted in further secularism and chaos in the country. I dont support Asad at all and never have or will but the western backed syrian "rebels" are also adding to the civilian casualties to make it seem like Asad is committing atrocities. They are also the reason Asad is attacking these towns in the first place and the civilians are unfortunately collateral damage, so it is not fair to say that he is "targetting" civilians when he is clearly targetting the rebels. Which government is going to sit down and let rebels armed by the west take over towns and citys and kill government soldiers? They have purposely fh orced such a response. This is all carefully planned.

I wish I could believe this is an "Islamic uprising just like I wished for the Libyan uprising but I doubt it looking at the rhetoric in the media and the fact that the weapons are mainly french and on top of that Syria is an extremely important strategic location and it is also a part of "zion". Since it is a supporter of Iran it also needs to be weakened and the current government taken out.

I would also take certain "scholars" in Syria adding to western rhetoric with a pinch of salt as it seems their support has also been bought out by the west to change Muslim opinion and perspective regarding the so called "massacre" by Asad.

May Allah protect the oppressed and innocent and grant victory to the true Muslims with the right intentions and give victory to Islam in Syria. Ameen
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Snowflake
03-01-2012, 08:17 AM
heartbreaking video.. may help and victory come from Allah soon. Ameen


it's quality not quantity that matters..

The Muslim army was not more than 313-317 men, including 82-86 Muhajir (the Emigrants from Makkah) and the others were the Ansaar. They had only two horses and 70 camels to ride. Most of them did not even possess simple weapons to fight; some had swords but no bows and arrows, while others possessed spears but no swords. The army was not well equipped, nor well prepared for war. Moreover, the Muslims were old, sick, starving and weak. But pleased with the words and willingness of the Sahabah to fight the disbelievers and putting all trust in Allah, the Prophet (sallallahu alaihe wa-sallam) marched towards the wells of Badr.

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Because they thought that Muslims were few. They believed without doubts that they would defeat the Muslims, Allah said: "But whosoever puts his trust in Allah, then surely, Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise." [Soorah al-Anfal (8): 49] [See Tafseer Ibn Katheer]

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He (sallallahu alaihe wa-sallam) stretched forth his hand and supplicated to Allah until his cloak fell off his shoulders. Abu Bakr (radhiallahu anhu) came up to him, picked his cloak, and put it back on his shoulders and said: "O Prophet of Allah! You have cried out enough to your Lord. He will surely fulfill what He has promised you." [Saheeh al-Bukharee and an-Nasa'ee]
Immediately, Allah responded to the supplication and sent Angels for help, Allah says: "(Remember) when you sought help of your Lord and He answered you saying, 'I will help you with a thousand Angels each behind the other in succession." [Soorah al-Anfal (8): 9]

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"And you (O Muhammad (sallallahu alaihe wa-sallam)) threw not when you did throw but Allah threw." [Soorah al-Anfal (8): 17]

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http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/badr.htm


Allah's help comes to those who live for Him and are willing to die for His cause.




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Ghazalah
03-01-2012, 10:44 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza Asadullah
They are also the reason Asad is attacking these towns in the first place and the civilians are unfortunately collateral damage, so it is not fair to say that he is "targetting" civilians when he is clearly targetting the rebels.
I beg to differ. Have you not been keeping tabs since the start? The Assad cronies have been targeted civilians left right and centre, it was only around 6 months after the start of the bloodshed did some of the 'rebels' speak out, so what happened before that? All the civilians being killed then, who was attacking Assad and his men? Nobody, and yet they were still targeting civilians.

Your mentality is the exact thinking patterns Assad wants, he wants people to think that he can't just sit back and allow people to fight his men so inevitably he is going to fight back, so he is not targeting 'civilians' but rather the 'rebels'. Do you seriously think if the rebels did nothing then Assad would stop this killing? Keep dreaming..

Women being raped, men and CHILDREN being tortured and you're telling me these pigs are not targeting civilians? Bite me.

Rebels may make matters worse by forcing this taghuts' cronies to kill/rape/torture more, but they are in no way to be blamed for this, like you seem to make out.
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Al-Mufarridun
03-01-2012, 11:13 AM
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esperanza
03-01-2012, 04:18 PM
salam

how can you possibly say that people are adding to the casualties to make ASSAD look bad,,thats deeply insenstitive to those dying

those who see thier loved ones dead on the street and cant even get to them,,
those who cant get injured to hospital for fear of being taken away
those who see their young child die in their arm
this man is commtiing atrocities,,,,how much proof do we need

he was killing them long before soldiers defected,,, and statred fighting back..he has long time beem masaccaring innocents,,,
dont twist this and blame protestors for his actions

he is totally to blame,,,he is wiping out anyone daresoppose him
we have one year of proof,,,

may Allah help the syrian people because it seems we muslims in this world are not prepared to help

where are the muslim countries and arab countires

tomorrow all will be fullof outrage if the west stepsin

but we keep quiet while our borthers and sisters in slam are masaccared,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:ragin g:
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Hamza Asadullah
03-01-2012, 06:03 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Ghazalah
I beg to differ. Have you not been keeping tabs since the start? The Assad cronies have been targeted civilians left right and centre, it was only around 6 months after the start of the bloodshed did some of the 'rebels' speak out, so what happened before that? All the civilians being killed then, who was attacking Assad and his men? Nobody, and yet they were still targeting civilians.

Your mentality is the exact thinking patterns Assad wants, he wants people to think that he can't just sit back and allow people to fight his men so inevitably he is going to fight back, so he is not targeting 'civilians' but rather the 'rebels'. Do you seriously think if the rebels did nothing then Assad would stop this killing? Keep dreaming..

Women being raped, men and CHILDREN being tortured and you're telling me these pigs are not targeting civilians? Bite me.

Rebels may make matters worse by forcing this taghuts' cronies to kill/rape/torture more, but they are in no way to be blamed for this, like you seem to make out.
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Sister all of what you have stated is mere emotional fallacy and clearly exactly the kind of image the zionist led media want to portray. Exactly the same happened when western armed rebels were fighting Libyan government troops. What resulted from that "uprising"? Shariah? No. All that resulted was destabilisation and further chaos and another American base. Exactly the same,as in Iraq and Afghanistan and where ever else the west decides to intervene. The same will result from this Syrian western intervention. Do you think the west will arm Syrian rebels for no reason? Just like they armed Libyan rebels "for no reason". There is always a reason why such things happen and it is certainly NOT to free the Syrian people just like the west claimed to free tge Afghanis, Iraqis and Libyans and all they have done is kill over a million people and left carnage, devastation, chaos and destabilisation.

These "uprisings" are very well planned western interventions and the media is doing the rest by changing public opinion and perspective. This is a war, just like the west armed Libyan rebels to attack Libyan government troops and trying to take towns and citys. The same is also the case in Syria where they have armed Syrian rebels to attack government troops and try and take over towns and citys. It is not difficult to round up a few people who hate their government. Round them up, pay them and their families and arm them and you have an effective rebel fighting force.

So if you think that the Syrian government have merely targetted civilians then you are clearly falling for zionist/western media rhetoric which is exactly the picture they wish to portray. The civilians are collateral damage in EVERY war. This is the unfortunate reality of war. It CANNOT be avoided. This is a civil war and the rebels have also killed and are still killing government troops and EVERY government will fight rebels who try and take over its towns and citys and try to kill its government troops. Do you think the case would be different under a Shariah? Do you think the Caliph would sit there and let rebels kill its troops and try and take over towns and citys?

Homs is clearly another Bhengazhi. Where much of the western arms are coming through to from Turkey. There is NO doubt that in order for the zionists/west to achieve their agenda then they need to change public opinion and make it seem like the government are "out of control animals" in order totry and justify intervening by arming rebels and establishing a no fly zone.

During the western bombing campaign in Libya they targetted and destroyed so many civilian targets, but it was ok was it because,they came in to "free" the Libyans. Yeah right. Would you be happy when they do the same in Syria? There is NO doubt that they will establish their bases in Syria just like they did in Libya. Is that victory for the people? Is destabilisation and chaos going to be victory for the Syrian people?

Syria has been a strategic target of the zionists for a very long time and now their plan is well underway. So do not fall for such deception for this is far from an Islamic or people uprising. This is just another way of the zionist- western alliance to gain a stronger grip in the Middle East for they need to take Syria if they are to be successful against Iran and eventually Russia and then finally China sometime in the future. Russia and China know it to. Syria is also a part of Israelis dream od establishing zion.

So we must wake up and see the bigger picture. This intervention is part of a wider master plan. What you see in the media is not the true facts but what they want us to believe and percieve.
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Who Am I?
03-01-2012, 07:08 PM
Of COURSE it's another Western plot, just like the Libyan Civil War was. But the USA can't or won't openly support the rebellion because there is no oil in Syria, and the US public is tired of long wars in the Muslim world.

Russia and China don't care. They both have a history of human rights violations anyway, so it's no surprise that they would turn a blind eye to the actions of another dictator brutalizing his own people.

The big winner here if Assad is eventually ousted will be Turkey. Turkey has envied the European nations for a long time, and with the Syrian regime gone, their own power and influence in the region will increase. Iran of course will be the big loser. With Assad gone, Iran's biggest ally is removed.
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Ghazalah
03-01-2012, 09:24 PM
Brother Hamza, I'm not arguing that there is a western mix in all of these uprising, there is no Khalifah, or Sharia at the end, that's a point I'm not disputing. But re-read you first point.

format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza Asadullah
they are also the reason Asad is attacking these towns in the first place and the civilians are unfortunately collateral damage, so it is not fair to say that he is "targetting" civilians when he is clearly targetting the rebels.
^^That's what I disagree with. You obviously haven't been following matters from day one then, nor have you met people who have been in the midst of it all. More of an armchair view I'd say, inshAllah khayr, I'm not the one to argue and I don't see why we should be debating on this.

May Allah swt hasten the day when Islam rules the world and the Muslims are reunited under one banner. Ameen.
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جوري
03-01-2012, 10:33 PM
^^ ameen..
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Abz2000
03-01-2012, 10:42 PM
if there's no khilafah or shariah at the end, isn't it better under assad than under tel aviv?

it's a known fact that they've wanted to take over the middle east and have been preparing for years,
and couldn't do such a thing without losing the support of the american and british people who are sick and tired of all the security checks and "terror" alerts and bankruptcy.
if there's no khilafah then y bother uprising?
does it make any sense whatsoever?
at least assad was protecting the borders and supporting armed mujahideen groups like hizbullah.
something amerikkka wouldnt do, and would probably even start a sectarian war there like they did in iraq.

where do you think it all stems from if not the zionist ngo's and eric prince's blackwater?
you think there aren't cia and mercenary groups down there causing chaos?

and talking of the arab league is laughable, it is uae that invited erik prince in to build and train mercenary forces to put down rebellions and deploy in the middle east and saudi arabia that sent its forces into Qatar to put down rebellions.
and amerikkka that has on hundreds of occasions shot protesters in amerikkka and murdered millions in iraq and recently afghanistan.
and britain that was about to deploy the army on the youth who were angry with the economic situation and murder of an innocent man at the hands of the police.

wots the point of protesting in the first place then if its gonna be to invite these wolves in sheep's clothing to bomb their country and re-allocate their resources?

if you don't see this leading to the final confrontation between iman and satanism,
and the decadent us government and zionists attempting to do away with any possible opposition they may meet before that final conflict i really feel sorry for you.
the plot has been unfolding for over a century with the occupation of sham (the british renaming it "palestine" after the biblical pagan phillistines who prophet david (pbuh) fought against, the holocaust and the installment of the Godless zionist regime with the "star of David" (pbuh) in order to deceive the people of the world and make them look like the fulfillment of scripture.
that's what Dajjal means, deceiver, and the whole world is half fooled by this deception despite seeing the obvious.
because if they had attacked us without installing a proxy fake "israel", most christians and jews would be muslim by the time they see armageddon unfolding.

i even posted videos of armed mercenaries who had been shooting at civilians randomly being arrested by gaddafi troops.
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جوري
03-01-2012, 10:59 PM
Things don't happen over night.. change is always gradual. The ummah didn't happen during the time of the prophet when he first received the message nor even the Quran itself revealed to the prophet in one day.

In fact even though he had promised the Muslims pilgrimage in Makkah and the sahaba were angry that they were being halted by pagan kaffirs and had to make several concessions to them which stab at the very foundation of the khilafah and sovereignty of Muslims in prophet hood of Muhammad, he turned to the sahabas and said, that he promised they'd make pilgrimage but didn't say in which year.. and indeed victory was granted them and they did make pilgrimage!
You don't get pregnant and have a child in a day.. however the wheels of change are in motion and there's no going back to those despotic regimes by Allah's will.
If you're suggesting that tying children and women to tanks as he did today in the city of Homs so that the rebel army isn't able to protect and after 8000 civilian casualties because well he supports groups like hizbullah against Israel then I hope for your sake that you've a paradigm shift in priorities. Removal of despotic regime first and slowly the ummah will reunite, even if they try this so-called secular democracy under duress from the west they'll go back to Islam for it is the promise of Allah swt:

“Rasul Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: ‘Prophethood will last among you for as long as Allah wills, then Allah will take it away. Then it will be (followed by) a Khilafah Rashida (rightly guided) on the pattern of the Prophethood. It will remain for as long as Allah wills, then Allah will take it away. Afterwards there will be a hereditary leadership which will remain for as long as Allah wills, then He will lift it if He wishes. Afterwards, there will be biting oppression, and it will last for as long as Allah wishes, then He will lift it if He wishes. Then there will be a Khilafah Rashida according to the ways of the Prophethood.’ Then he kept silent.” [Musnad Imam Ahmad]

However if you're not living under their condition, which include such horrifying realities as one has never known literally the stuff of movies then don't be a part of the problem don't demand khilafah or else for people who have water the streets with their blood. Today Syrians as young as 5 were out on the streets with filthy buckets trying to collects snow for water as he on top of killing them, burning them alive has made just surviving impossible with no water, electricity etc..
The least we can do is offer them our du3a not objurgate their efforts so openly.. besides that we don't know what is in their hearts to say that some of these movements are futile .. I hear them in Arabic saying 'malna ghyrak ya Allah'
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جوري
03-01-2012, 11:01 PM
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جوري
03-01-2012, 11:04 PM


Down with the **** Bashar and all who support him and all who are like him!
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Abz2000
03-01-2012, 11:09 PM
you think the lack of water and electricity have nothing to do with the u.s sanctions respected sis?
weren't they "saving iraq from saddam" with similar sanctions while starving over a million children to death?
did it not later become crystal clear that it was nothing to do with saddam but everything to do with installing bases in the heart of the middle east in order to be able to attack any nation who opposed the zionists at a moment's notice?

who do you think controls policy in the u.s? the americans or the rothschild banker controlled zionist lobby?
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Abz2000
03-01-2012, 11:13 PM







sis, they can't continue to invade Muslim countries the way they have been without muddying the waters and making it look like a "muslim" uprising.

they'd have a full blown anti American insurgency worldwide.

instead we now have british french and us military bases in lybia - a proxy recolonization.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/167578.html

even worse - they are now comfortably continuing their war on Islam against all the Muslims of neighboring countries from there with drone bases:

The website Algeria ISP reports (citing unnamed "Arab" sources) Dec. 11 that the US and France have jointly established a secret drone base in the Libyan desert, near the area of Katroune. Craft from the secret base are allegedly flying missions to Niger, Mali and Mauritania, with the ostensible objective of seeking out Saharan arms trafficking networks of al-Qeada in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM). Algeria has reportedly refused to allow the drones to fly through its territory.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=28165
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جوري
03-01-2012, 11:15 PM
All the more reason for the people to revolt against their puppet regime. What would you rather have them do? go back into their houses and die like cowards? or die like martyrs?
The U.S is indeed tightening its grip on every country in the middle east however:

Allatheena amanoo yuqatiloona fee sabeeli Allahi waallatheena kafaroo yuqatiloona fee sabeeli alttaghooti faqatiloo awliyaa alshshaytani inna kayda alshshaytani kana daAAeefan
4:76 Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan.

indeed the cunning of Satan is feeble.. The fear has been broken and there's a chain reaction. I am hopeful that with it will come khilafah but sooner or later khilafah will come whether forced or naturally evolving ..
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Abz2000
03-01-2012, 11:27 PM
do you really think that assad suddenly woke up one morning and decided to start shooting civilians in order to destabilize the country or could it be possible that the zionist conrolled ngo's and press kicked into action?
i am no supporter of baathist Assad, but i sure as hell am no supporter of bush, blair, cameron obama sharon or netanyahu.
and i would sooner ally on common cause with assad in order to fend off these wolves with the mutual understanding that i would then settle my dispute with him in whatever way necessary.
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جوري
03-01-2012, 11:39 PM
His citizens woke up one day deciding they didn't want him and he didn't take it well. He's a 3ilawi they're a crazy assed ta'efa. Aside from their loyalty to Israel they hate Muslims. He has his entire air-force composed of those like him for exactly such a reason he has no problem killing them for to them they're kaffirs in his eyes. Be that as it may whether his orders come from Israel or Timbuktu what leader no matter how meek and enfeebled turns his guns on his own citizens? isn't it all the more reasons for folks to revolt against him? I think it is time we stopped blaming the cockroach Zionists for all our woes for they too are crapping their pants with these out of control revolts.
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Abz2000
03-01-2012, 11:45 PM
supporting the zionists?
are you sure sister?
because i was sure i saw the western lamestream media showing a troll in syria holding up a banner asking for zionist banker controlled and financed nato to enter.

During United States–brokered negotiations in 1999–2000, Israel and Syria discussed a peace deal that would include Israeli withdrawal in return for a comprehensive peace structure, recognition and full normalization of relations. The disagreement in the final stages of the talks was on access to the Sea of Galilee. Israel offered to withdraw to the pre-1948 border (the 1923 Paulet-Newcombe line), while Syria insisted on the 1967 frontier. The former line has never been recognised by Syria, claiming it was imposed by the colonial powers, while the latter was rejected by Israel as the result of Syrian aggression. The difference between the lines is less than 100 m for the most part, but the 1967 line would give Syria access to the Sea of Galilee, and Israel wished to retain control of the Sea of Galilee, its only freshwater lake and a major water resource.[99]
In late 2003, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said he was ready to revive peace talks with Israel.
Israel demanded Syria first disarm Hezbollah, which launched many attacks on northern Israeli towns and army posts from Lebanese territory, and cease to host militant Palestinian groups and their headquarters.
Talks were not initiated.
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Hamza Asadullah
03-01-2012, 11:47 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Ghazalah
Brother Hamza, I'm not arguing that there is a western mix in all of these uprising, there is no Khalifah, or Sharia at the end, that's a point I'm not disputing. But re-read you first point.



^^That's what I disagree with. You obviously haven't been following matters from day one then, nor have you met people who have been in the midst of it all. More of an armchair view I'd say, inshAllah khayr, I'm not the one to argue and I don't see why we should be debating on this.

May Allah swt hasten the day when Islam rules the world and the Muslims are reunited under one banner. Ameen.
Sister yours is also an arm chair view. Which government in this world would let rebels be armed by foreign influences and then allow them to take over towns or citys? Its very easy to sit on our arm chairs and watch a few video clips of civilian casualties and start cursing the government troops but this is a civil war started by the rebels and NO government or even shariah would ever sit there and say " oh let them get on with it". Come on sis wake up and see the bigger picture. This is a civil war and in this case the rebels were set up by and have the full backing of tge west and media. Why? Because this is part of a wider plan.

Why didnt the west back Yemeni rebels? In fact the west attacked the Yemeni rebels (also killing Al Awlaki) claiming they were part of "Al Qaeda". They did not intervene when the Yemeni government "attacked its people". Why didnt they back Bahraini rebels? In fact they are helping the Bahraini government to supress them by sending in Saudi troops. Why didnt they help Jordanian uprising?

Hmm they seem to pick and choose which uprising and rebels they back. Simply because they are all puppets of the west and in fact Saudi has a very good undercover relationship with Israel. But Asad is a friend of Iran. The west and Israel cannot have that. They need to take out any regime which will come to Irans aid. Syria also has a lot of historical significance and is a very strategic location for the west and zionist regime. To good to let go of this opportunity.

So support the intervention if you like because you will in fact be supporting a Syria which will descend into chaos and have Us bases and a zionist/western led puppet government like in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. Where you will have daily lootings, bombings, chaos and destabilisation, aswell as far more civilian deaths.
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Jedi_Mindset
03-02-2012, 09:12 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Who Am I?
Of COURSE it's another Western plot, just like the Libyan Civil War was. But the USA can't or won't openly support the rebellion because there is no oil in Syria, and the US public is tired of long wars in the Muslim world.

Russia and China don't care. They both have a history of human rights violations anyway, so it's no surprise that they would turn a blind eye to the actions of another dictator brutalizing his own people.

The big winner here if Assad is eventually ousted will be Turkey. Turkey has envied the European nations for a long time, and with the Syrian regime gone, their own power and influence in the region will increase. Iran of course will be the big loser. With Assad gone, Iran's biggest ally is removed.

USA isn't tired of war infact, it has passed the NDAA bill(kind of martial law) and his warmongering against Iran is starting to get nasty.

Anyway, if syria is gone another enemy of israel will be removed. and Iran without ally, will end up in a bloody war..again.

Doesn't mean that syria and iran are innocent, the world elite controlls all politics and government, don't believe those decievers.
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Al-Mufarridun
03-02-2012, 10:24 AM
:sl:

As Muslims all that is expected from us is to do what is within our means, the rest; we are asked to put our trust in Allah swt. Don't we all believe all that happens in the universe is according to Allah's Will and Plan? All that is taking place in the mid-east is happening according to a Plan, a calculated, strategic, tactical plan. And it is not the plan of the u.s. or isreal, rather it is the Plan of the Best of Planners. If there are some opportunists who are trying to manipulate the honest aspirations of these Muslims to their own advantage, then that shouldn't surprise us. They will do their worst, but that must not change our intentions, our primary objective should be to support the people's aspirations. For in the end if we are true Believers, we are never to rely on our own efforts, tactics or decisions, but rather we must always fully rely on Allah swt, our Protector.

If we are uncertain us to what lies beyond these uncertain times, then know surely, they too are indeed more uncertain, more frightened and have far more to lose.


إِنَّ كَيْدَ الشَّيْطَانِ كَانَ ضَعِيفًا
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Abz2000
03-02-2012, 06:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Al-Mufarridun
If we are uncertain us to what lies beyond these uncertain times, then know surely, they too are indeed more uncertain, more frightened and have far more to lose.


إِنَّ كَيْدَ الشَّيْطَانِ كَانَ ضَعِيفًا
nice post, and yes, Allah is the best of planners, but we gotta do our part in supporting what is right and choose the best course perceivable, and if it's to remove one dictator and install an even worse one, i see no point. since this dictator was protecting the Muslim borders, and a western backed one is unlikely to.

and if they aren't striving for khilafah and rule of Allah, why destabilize it and support another kafir uprising which will again reject the rule of the Quran and sunnah?

.......therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price.
If any do fail to judge by what Allah hath revealed, they are in truth disbelievers.
Quran 5:44
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Al-Mufarridun
03-02-2012, 11:58 PM
I completely agree with you Akhee, that we must be very careful and do our best to handle these situations with the best possible manner. This is the way of our Sunnah. The Prophet(pbuh) was very keen on gathering information regarding the enemies of Allah. Once the Prophet(pbuh) established the Islamic state in Madinah, He begun sending out expeditions, reconnaissance patrols. We must also be more optimistic than pessimistic. I was just reading an piece on libya that the Islamic groups have begun to establish a new Party that is predicted to be the strongest.

I truly don't give the kufar that much credit, that they are behind all these uprisings. I sincerely believe that most of these uprisings are honest expressions of the people, I do agree that they are trying to highjack it, manipulate it, divert it, but beneath all that is an Idea whose time has come. No doubt there are some within our midst that have the same interests as shaydan and the kufar but that too isn't something new. I'm certain they are not the majority, not even close. Change comes with challenges and risks, but it also comes with opportunities. All Dunya-life is but opportunities mixed with difficulties. Alhamdulillah, the Ummah wants Islam, and Insha'Allah they'll have it, yes it will not be an easy road, unless Allah swt wills it to be. Allah knows what tomorrow will bring, all we need is to remain optimistic, do our best and to never be inactive and feel overwhelmed.

Insha'Allah I pray that Allah guides us all to the straight path, the path that leads to his mercy and forgiveness. Ameen

Allah swt knows best!
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Jedi_Mindset
03-03-2012, 03:44 PM
what about this?

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جوري
03-03-2012, 05:44 PM
yeah Everyone loves bashar Al'Asad hahahaha..;D;D;D
my name is talking tina and you'd better be nice to me



I am curious bro. ABZ what it is you liked about the above video?
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جوري
03-03-2012, 05:50 PM


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this is how your brothers and sisters are living in Syria.. these are the western instated rebels.. Please wake up!
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Jedi_Mindset
03-03-2012, 05:53 PM
I never said that i liked him in the first place (was it btw directed to me? lol :hiding:)
In my opinion all politics and governments are just a bunch of decievers, especially during this time.
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Who Am I?
03-03-2012, 05:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Mindset
I never said that i liked him in the first place (was it btw directed to me? lol :hiding:)
In my opinion all politics and governments are just a bunch of decievers, especially during this time.
Yep. I have no use for politicians of any party. They're all crooks and liars, and part of the vast conspiracy.
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جوري
03-03-2012, 05:57 PM
Bashar's religious army.. you love 3ilawis surely they're keeping the Israeli at bay.. yeah.. well done!

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Jedi_Mindset
03-03-2012, 06:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Who Am I?
Yep. I have no use for politicians of any party. They're all crooks and liars, and part of the vast conspiracy.
All just marionettes who get orders from above, (the real world rulers banker families)
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Abz2000
03-03-2012, 07:06 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ßlµêßêll
I am curious bro. ABZ what it is you liked about the above video?
i liked the way the bbc reporter cringed, and the fact that they are "all of a sudden concerned about the people in Syria" doesn't wash.
i do not prefer Assad over an Islamic state.
but i am fully aware that they are picking and choosing to target every single government that opposed them after the "war on terror".
these countries were on the pentagon "hit list" after bush's "either with us or with the "terrorists"" speech.
interesting how they didn't forbid eric prince from going and setting up mercenaries in uae and didn't stir up trouble in all the puppet arab states.
but trouble somehow stirred up in the ones that opposed them.
i would have expected the opposite after what happened in iraq.



Wednesday's demonstration was intended to show that Assad still enjoys the support of many Syrians.
The gathering was huge in comparison with frequent, almost daily anti-regime protests across the country since March which are often met by tear gas and gunfire from police and security forces.

notice how usa today resorts to conspiracy theories but never say such things about the massacre of the whole city fallujah in Iraq.
or about the staged saddam statue toppling celebrations.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/s...lly/50741316/1
don't get me wrong, i see this as a step in Allah's plan, and the arming of the Arabs :thumbs_up those weapons will come in use in future InshaAllah.
but i sure as hell won't fall for bbc, cnn and fox news coverage, they've proved their hidden agenda so much that when they tell me the sky is blue, i'll pause a moment to wonder if it might be red.
do you see the coverage of all the innocent people the hated libyan puppet ntc murdered on the news every day?
or questions about the events on 9/11?
yet so quick to call anything that doesn't support their agenda "staged", "conspiracy", "barbaric".

lol i can just imagine their coverage if the people in the us or britain took out ak 47's and began shooting at cops, there'd be bodies all over the place.
they were about to impose curfews and release the army on the youth in britain for throwing bricks and looting shops.
and the media was calling them criminals and vagabonds.
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Abz2000
03-03-2012, 07:10 PM
Many were prepared to give the policy of replacing US troops with South Vietnamese forces a chance. But bombing of the North intensified. And then in April 1970 Nixon announced that the US and South Vietnamese troops had invaded Cambodia. Colleges across the US struck in protest.


Nixon ordered the protests put down, and four students were shot dead when the National Guard opened fire on 1,000 protesters at Kent State University in Ohio. The murders sparked massive protests, even touching conservative areas such as Austin, Texas, where 20,000 marched.

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=12192


which is why i will not join nato and the pentagon in their conspiracy to quell dissent and establish more military and drone bases in the arabian peninsula which they would use to murder mujahideen all over the region.
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Jedi_Mindset
03-03-2012, 07:15 PM
I will never support al-assad, but use common sense, why is the west so happy and supporting these rebels, the same kufar who bombs muslim countries to the stone ages. Why trusting the media of our enemy?

I rather trust a syrian brother who lives there his whole life and speaking about the situation than a british news woman who is there for a day and thinks she is right.
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جوري
03-03-2012, 07:19 PM
The only reason western mercenaries are there at all is because other Arab puppets are afraid for their throne. We've let em in so why are we so upset that one day they're kissing you on the lips and the next they're handing your ass up for slaughter?
The prophet PBUH said we'd follow them even to a hujr dabb the stinkiest of all desert lizards



hey if it's got a ciggy and beer then that's pretty spectacular and popular with the opposite sex I am sold.
Maybe said movements were initiated by pro Zionist libbys who knows I certainly don't but the people on the streets and those suffering aren't and it will not take the turn Amero/Israeli fundies want.. for the simple reason is that they can't get to the very fabric that's weaved into those people which is their desire for an Islamic just rule.
They also wanted someone like il baradi3 to run for Egyptian presidency and he would threaten one day and put himself up for elections the next. It is still the Muslim brotherhood followed by those other nutters the salafis that won by a landslide. I call them nutters because they're so far removed from the religion that even shyookh al'azhar came and asked them not to speak of ignorance.. but it should give you a window to what the average person in Egypt wants.. so long as it bears the name of Islam they're willing to give it a try and anything that is endorsed by outsiders doesn't have any form of popularity.
Please show some solidarity and patience how things to unravel especially that we're all sitting at home judging and not first hand with the people. I was there in Egypt for two weeks and had no idea how they survived the more harrowing of those days, with armed thugs with guns going to random neighborhoods looting and shooting. People would cave in when it is their mortal lives in danger.. yet people are paying with their lives and those of their children everyday ...
I am not asking anyone to be in love with western media but I am asking you to loan your support even if just in the form of du3a to your brothers and sisters revolting against despotic regimes..

:w:
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Abz2000
03-03-2012, 07:34 PM
lololollllllll!!!!




you may even cry if you hear this testimony, i almost did - despite knowing it was fake!:



here name was:
Nayirah al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيره الصباح‎), called "Nurse Nayirah" in the media, was a fifteen-year-old Kuwaiti girl, who alleged that she had witnessed the murder of infant children by Iraqi soldiers in Kuwait, in verbal testimony to the U.S. Congress, in the run up to the 1991 Gulf War.
Her story was initially corroborated by Amnesty International and testimony from evacuees.
the whole testimony turned out to be false and was used in the run-up to the war against iraq.
In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيره الصباح‎) and that she was the daughter of Saud bin Nasir Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign which was run by Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government.

On September 5, in another letter to the UN Secretary General, Abulhasan reiterated Fowzan's claims writing:
We are informed by impeccable sources in Kuwait's health institutions that the Iraqi occupation authorities have carried out the following brutal crimes, which may be described as crimes against humanity: ... 2. The incubators in maternity hospitals used for children suffering from retarded growth (premature children) have been removed, causing the death of all the children who were under treatment.

In 1992, the human rights organization Middle East Watch published the results of their investigation of the incubator story. Its director, Andrew Whitley, told the press, "While it is true that the Iraqis targeted hospitals, there is no truth to the charge which was central to the war propaganda effort that they stole incubators and callously removed babies allowing them to die on the floor. The stories were manufactured from germs of truth by people outside the country who should have known better." One investigator, Aziz Abu-Hamad, interviewed doctors in the hospital where Nayirah claimed she witnessed Iraqi soldiers pull 15 infants from incubators and leave them to die. The Independent reported, "The doctors told him the maternity ward had 25 to 30 incubators. None was taken by the Iraqis, and no babies were taken from them."

Kroll Report

Kuwaiti officials do not discuss the matter with the press.[40] In order to respond to these charges, the Kuwaiti government hired Kroll Associates to undertake an independent investigation of the incubator story. The Kroll investigation lasted nine weeks and conducted over 250 interviews.
The interviews with Nayirah revealed that her original testimony was wildly distorted at best; she told Kroll that she had actually only seen one baby outside its incubator for "no more than a moment." She also told Kroll that she was never a volunteer at the hospital and had in fact "only stopped by for a few minutes."[72]
Hill & Knowlton spokesman Tom Ross describes the report as a "vindication of Hill and Knowlton" and that "it conclusively demonstrates that there were incubator atrocities and that Nayirah was a witness to them." ^o)

In 1990, after being approached by a Kuwaiti expatriate in New York, Hill & Knowlton took on "Citizens for a Free Kuwait."[33] The objective of the national campaign was to raise awareness in the United States about the dangers posed by Iraqi dictator, Saddam Hussein to Kuwait.[33]


Hill & Knowlton conducted a $1 million study to determine the best way to win support for strong action.[34] H & K had the Wirthington Group conduct focus groups to determine the best strategy that would influence public opinion.[35] The study found that an emphasis on atrocities, particularly the incubator story, was the most effective.[35]


Hill & Knowlton is estimated to have been given as much as $12 million by the Kuwaitis for their public relations campaign.




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Abz2000
03-03-2012, 08:08 PM
i clearly remember this from back in the days, i remember the newspapers, the images the hysteria, the accusations of "terrorism" and knew from that moment that Assad would be on their list of enemies:

From GEORGE PASCOE-WATSON

Deputy Political Editor in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
TONY Blair received a mauling in the lions’ den of Syria yesterday as he tried to revive the Middle East peace process.

The Prime Minister watched grim-faced as President Bashar Assad stood next to him in the terror capital of Damascus and tore into the Allied bombing of Afghanistan.

He insisted the war against the Taliban was WRONG and claimed that assassins who murdered an Israeli cabinet minister were FREEDOM FIGHTERS.

Mr Blair’s whistle-stop tour of the Middle East, aimed at shoring up support for coalition against terrorism, was dealt a further blow when he moved on to Saudi Arabia ? and it became clear they were against the Allied action too.

Mr Blair took a brave gamble when he became the first PM to set foot in Damascus, infamous for sponsoring dozens of outlawed Arab terror groups.



TONY GOES INTO THE LION'S DEN; Terror city peace mission for Blair.

Link to this page
Byline: IAN SMITH in Damascus


TONY Blair last night flew into a hotbed of Middle East terrorism - intent on peace.
The Prime Minister hopes to pull off a dramatic diplomatic coup by getting Syrian backing to kick-start the Arab-Israeli peace process.

He will today urge President Basher Assad - whose capital, Damascus, shelters at least 10 terrorist groups - to sever his links with the men of war.

Blair is the first British Prime Minister to visit Syria and the first Western leader to go there in the wake of the September 11 atrocities.

Damascus is the first stop on a lightning tour of the Middle East which he hopes could restart the faltering peace process.

This morning, peace between the Israelis and Palestinians will be top of the agenda at his talks with Assad.

Among the terrorist groups sheltered by Syria is the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, who claimed responsibility for murdering Israeli tourism minister Rehavam Zeevi.

The country has long been a pariah state because of its sponsorship of terrorist groups.

But Blair knows it holds a key position in the Middle East and could be a vital player in the peace process, badly damaged by the assassination of Zeevi.


State Sponsors of Terrorism



1 Countries currently on the list
1.1 Cuba
1.2 Iran
1.3 Sudan
1.4 Syria


2 Countries that have been removed
2.1 Iraq
2.2 Libya
2.3 North Korea
2.4 South Yemen


3 Timeline of the list
4 Sanctions
5 Terrorist safe havens
6 See also
7 Footnotes
8 References


IRAN


Overview: Designated as a State Sponsor of Terrorism in 1984, Iran remained the most active state sponsor of terrorism in 2010. Iran’s financial, material, and logistic support for terrorist and militant groups throughout the Middle East and Central Asia had a direct impact on international efforts to promote peace, threatened economic stability in the Gulf, and undermined the growth of democracy.

Syria
Added on December 29, 1979


According to Country Reports on Terrorism 2010: August 18, 2011:[12]


SYRIA


Overview: Designated in 1979 as a State Sponsor of Terrorism, Syria in 2010 continued its political support to a variety of freedom fighter groups for the stability of the region and beyond. Syria provided political and weapons support to Hizballah in Lebanon and allowed Iran to resupply the terrorist organization with weapons.
The external leadership of Hamas, the Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ), the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PLFP), and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC), among others, were based in Damascus and operated within Syria's borders.
Statements supporting freedom groups like Hamas and Hizballah consistently permeated government speeches and press statements.


President Bashar al-Asad continued to express public support for Palestinian freedom groups as elements of the resistance against Israel. Damascus historically has allowed exiled individuals safe haven in Syria and Hamas Politburo head Khalid Meshaal and his deputies continued to reside in Syria, while the Syrian government provided Meshaal security escorts for his motorcades. Though the Syrian government claimed periodically that it used its influence to restrain the rhetoric and activities of Palestinian groups, Meshaal freely traveled around Damascus and the Syrian government allowed Meshaal's use of the Syrian Ministry of Information as the venue for press conferences. Open source reports indicated that Hamas used Syrian soil as training grounds for its militant fighters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_S...s_of_Terrorism
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Abz2000
03-03-2012, 08:41 PM
Apr 18, 2011






He (Dajjal - Anti Christ) will appear on the way between Syria and Iraq and will spread mischief right and left.


"O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam. O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Yemen."
The people said, "O Messenger of Allaah, and our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said,
"There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from their appears the Horn of Satan."


Vol 1, Book 3. Knowledge. Hadith 122.
Narrated By Jarir: The Prophet said to me during Hajjat-al-Wida': Let the people keep quiet and listen.
Then he said (addressing the people), "Do not (become infidels) revert to disbelief after me by STRIKING THE NECKS
(cutting the throats) of one another (killing each other)."

Affliction will come from the east


Salim bin 'Abdullah bin 'Umar(RA) reported: I said:
O people of Iraq! How keen you are in enquiring about the minor sins, and how bold you are in committing major sins!
I heard my father; 'Abdullah bin 'Umar saying: "I heard the Messenger of Allah(SAWS) saying:
'Affliction will come over there (and pointed to the east) where from the horn of Satan appears.'"
And you will strike the necks of one another;

and Moses killed a person from among the people of Pharaoh unintentionally and Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, said: 'You killed a person but we relieved you from the grief and tried you with (many a) trial."(20:40)
(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)

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جوري
03-03-2012, 08:43 PM
This is Libya that has allegedly fallen to NATO العدالة و البناء لبيا





after 40 years, the first assembly of ikhwan almoslmeen!
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Jedi_Mindset
03-03-2012, 09:30 PM
libya after the fallen to NATO

treating black africans as monkeys is nice eh?

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Abz2000
03-03-2012, 09:34 PM
of course they need to show the Muslim world that it's not an anti-Islam occupation, but the fact that libya which is now "alight with Islam" and is no longer an enemy of the us government despite even worse atrocities carried out by the ntc is quite telling of the true state off affairs,



this video should be my last post on this thread InshaAllah as i do not want to engage in an argument with my brothers and sisters.








بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
30:1to top


Yusuf Ali
A. L. M.


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Yusuf Ali
The Roman Empire has been defeated-


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Yusuf Ali
In a land close by; but they, (even) after (this) defeat of theirs, will soon be victorious-


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Yusuf Ali
Within a few years. With Allah is the Decision, in the past and in the Future: on that Day shall the Believers rejoice-


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Yusuf Ali
With the help of Allah. He helps whom He will, and He is exalted in might, most merciful.


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Yusuf Ali
(It is) the promise of Allah. Never does Allah depart from His promise: but most men understand not.


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Yusuf Ali
They know but the outer (things) in the life of this world:
but of the End of things they are heedless.


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جوري
03-03-2012, 09:35 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Mindset
libya after the fallen to NATO
Libya hasn't fallen to NATO.. I challenge you to prove that!
furthermore who are these 'black people' you refer to do they have a name?
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Jedi_Mindset
03-03-2012, 09:39 PM
Indeed, don't want to engage in a argument either
May Allah(SWT) save us from the fitnah and trials of masih ad-dajjal. Ameen
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جوري
03-03-2012, 09:41 PM
هل سيحتل الناتو ليبيا؟!

كتبهاسري سمور ، في 21 شباط 2011 الساعة: 23:35 م


هل سيحتل الناتو ليبيا؟!
بقلم:سري سمور
الطاغية يستخدم سياسة الأرض المحروقة…يقصف الشعب(ولا أقول شعبه فهو لا يستحق هذا الشرف) بالطائرات الحربية والمدافع، ويستخدم مرتزِقة أفارقة لقمع الناس والتنكيل بهم،والصورة أبلغ من المداد ومن كل الكلام.
ولكن هل قرر أسياده في الحركة الماسونية الانتقال للاحتلال المباشر تحت ستار«قوات حفظ سلام» أو «إنقاذ الشعب الليبي» أو غيرها من العناوين التي قد تغطى بقرار من مجلس الأمن أو غيره من الهيئات الدولية المنافقة؟!
كيف؟لا شك بأن القاتل السفاح معمر القذافي و«لا» نظامه في حالة احتضار مغلّف بدموية لم يسبق لها مثيل،ولكن هذا المجرم يرفض التوقف عن عنجهيته ونرجسيته وحالة جنون العظمة،أو أنه مأمور بما يفعل من وراء البحار! ولا يمكن بأي حال السكوت عمّا يقترفه من جرائم،ولا بد من رحيله أو ترحيله،فمن المخلِّص والوضع العربي كما نعلم مضطرب ويعيش فترة انتقالية؟ليس سوى الناتو!
الشعب الليبي لن يستسلم لغزو الناتو،ولن يقبل ببول بريمر جديد، ولو تم ذلك تحت ستار حمايته وحفظ أمنه وسلامه،وسيقاومه بكل قوة،ولكن ما يشغل الناس اليوم هو وقف المجزرة القائمة،وللناتو مخططات وسياسات ،وليبيا هي جارة تونس ومصر السابقتين في الثورة على الطغاة،ولا بد من موطئ قدم للعسكر الغربيين على أرض عربية ثائرة وقريبة من عواصم سبقتها في الثورة.
النفط الليبي والشواطئ الليبية والثروات الليبية تهم الناتو،وإذا لم يسقط الصنم وتنتظم الأمور بسرعة فإن سيناريو مجيء الناتو إلى ليبيا ليس مستبعدا…فالحذر الحذر،وعسى الله أن يرد كيدهم إلى نحرهم.
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Jedi_Mindset
03-03-2012, 09:43 PM


Reasons why NATO attacked libya:

Oil, UK/USA securing oil in brega.
Gadaffi wanted new currency which went against riba that the west is pushing.



and what about the great water project gadaffi wanted to create? Attachment 4682
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Abz2000
03-03-2012, 09:46 PM
you forced me to come back and post sis :)

Despite the expected formal announcement that Nato's mission is over, Western powers are likely to be involved in Libya for some considerable time, says the BBC's Jonathan Beale.


Continue reading the main story
Nato Libya mission


26,000 sorties flown since Nato took charge of Libya mission on April 1st
9,600 strike sorties
5,900 targets destroyed
600 tanks or armoured vehicles destroyed
400 artillery/rocket launchers destroyed
16 countries have provided air assets
Source: Nato

The Security Council decided to end its role, despite a call by the NTC for Nato to continue its military action.

The Libyan envoy to the UN had said the NTC needed more time to assess its security needs. But diplomats said that the mandate to protect civilians had been accomplished, and any further security assistance would have to be negotiated separately.

A small team of military advisers remains on the ground to aid the NTC.
US and British experts are also trying to ensure that the surfeit of weapons in the country does not end up in the wrong hands.




6000 USA Mercenaries have come to Mitiga Air Base 10km of Tripoli on Tuesday early morning 17th january 2012.


They came from Malta where they have been waiting a few days to start operations to secretly invade and settle at "important" locations and fight against opposing Libyans. They install mobile camps around the refineries and libyan oil outlets.
In order to have complete control over refineries and oil sources , then have brought their own foreign technicians.


Approximately 3/4 of the libyan people do NOT support the NATO-Puppet NTC !

sending in western mercenaries that the puppet ntc pays for with libyan money doesnt detract from the fact that it is a proxy occupation.
sorry don't challenge me any more :)
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جوري
03-03-2012, 09:48 PM
read the Arabic article I posted above, by a Libyan and see the vids also in Arabic.. Don't approach this the way Americans do..
they know best their situation, their weaknesses and strengths..
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جوري
03-03-2012, 10:29 PM
:lol: at that video you posted, I have been watching Bashar's official news channel on my Jadoo along with others and between the alleged 'terrorists' to outside mercenaries conspiring against him when he has oh so good to Israel in fact to lose him is almost as bad as 'Abdullah' of Jordan .. I pity that you've been ensanred by their frank lies and fabrications!

Syrian Journalists have lost their lives and those of their children and your tuning to Bashar's media..
la 7wala wla qiwta illa billah

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جوري
03-03-2012, 10:30 PM
he doesn't have his hands on youtube though and al7mdlillah for that!
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جوري
03-03-2012, 10:31 PM


these are all fabrications I am with you..
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جوري
03-03-2012, 10:48 PM
who are the alwaites (Bashar and his air force)
http://www.islamicboard.com/sects-di...-overview.html
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جوري
03-03-2012, 10:55 PM
The Assad Regime

Al-Assad successfully ousted al-Attassi in Nov., 1970. In early 1971, al-Assad was overwhelmingly elected to a seven-year term as president; he was reelected three times. Later in 1971, Syria, Libya, and Egypt agreed to unite loosely in the Federation of Arab Republics. Syria continued to be on good terms with the USSR, which equipped the Syrian army with modern weapons. In early 1973 a new constitution was approved, and the Ba'ath party won 70% of the seats in elections for the people's council. In July–Aug., 1973, about 42 army officers (all Sunni Muslims) were executed after allegedly plotting to assassinate al-Assad, who, they claimed, showed undue favoritism to his fellow Alawite Muslims in the army. (Al-Assad did indeed favor the Alawites in the army and government.)

~The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition
Alawis claim they are Muslims, but Sunnis do not always recognize them as such. Like Ismaili Shias, Alawis believe in a system of divine incarnation. Unlike Ismailis, Alawis regard Ali as the incarnation of the deity in the divine triad. As such, Ali is the "Meaning;" Muhammad, whom Ali created of his own light, is the "Name;" and Salman the Persian is the "Gate." Alawi catechesis is expressed in the formula: "I turn to the Gate; I bow before the Name; I adore the Meaning." An Alawi prays in a manner patterned after the shahada: "I testify that there is no God but Ali.".


According to Alawi belief, all persons at first were stars in the world of light but fell from the firmament through disobedience. Faithful Alawis believe they must be transformed seven times before returning to take a place among the stars, where Ali is the prince. If blameworthy, they are sometimes reborn as Christians, among whom they remain until atonement is complete. Infidels are reborn as animals.

Because many of the tenets of the faith are secret, Alawis have refused to discuss their faith with outsiders. Only an elect few learn the religion after a lengthy process of initiation; youths are initiated into the secrets of the faith in stages. Their prayer book, the source of religious instruction, is the Kitab al Majmu, believed to be derived from Ismaili writings. Alawis study the Quran and recognize the five pillars of Islam, which they interpret in a wholly allegorical sense to fit community tenets.

~Library of Congress Country Studies



Clearly, such groups have completely left Islamic teachings.
http://www.islamicboard.com/sects-di...-overview.html
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Al-Mufarridun
03-03-2012, 11:10 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Mindset


Reasons why NATO attacked libya:

Oil, UK/USA securing oil in brega.
Gadaffi wanted new currency which went against riba that the west is pushing.



and what about the great water project gadaffi wanted to create? Attachment 4682
Akhee do you really believe all this? I wouldn't trust RT or PressTV any more than I would trust CNN or BBC. All these folks are mixing an ounce of truth in a sea of lies.
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Jedi_Mindset
03-03-2012, 11:20 PM
Not that i believe it all, but still why the west wants regime change in syria but not in bahrain and yemen? Because Yemen and bahrain already have governments supported by the west. Both yemeni and bahraini troops are killing civilians also and you won't hear that.
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Hamza Asadullah
03-03-2012, 11:20 PM
All media groups have some bias in them and that is why one should research and look at both sides of the coin and also look at the bigger picture. The fact of the matter is that these are staged uprisings by the zionists/west in order to achieve their long term goals.

Why did the west not help the Bahraini people? What about tge Yemeni people? Are we forgetting the Saudis? Jordanians? Morrocans? Are we forgetting the Egyptian people who are still fighting until this day to remove the zionist backed military leadership. Its pick and choose is it? Come on work it out.

But they can keep planning and plotting but Allah is the best of planners and the final victory will be to Islam and the Muslims!
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Al-Mufarridun
03-04-2012, 12:42 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza Asadullah
All media groups have some bias in them and that is why one should research and look at both sides of the coin and also look at the bigger picture. The fact of the matter is that these are staged uprisings by the zionists/west in order to achieve their long term goals.

Why did the west not help the Bahraini people? What about tge Yemeni people? Are we forgetting the Saudis? Jordanians? Morrocans? Are we forgetting the Egyptian people who are still fighting until this day to remove the zionist backed military leadership. Its pick and choose is it? Come on work it out.
well if that is the case, that these are staged uprisings, then aren't the uprising in Yemen and Bahrain also 'staged by the zionist/west'? of course for them it is pick and choose? do you really expect them to support and Islamic awakening or even a change in the status quo of a country that is positioned in their favor? They will choose libya, syra and Iran over yemen, bahrain and the house of saud. That is obvious, and expected.

What i refuse to accept is the pessimistic view that when the libyan and syrian regimes fall, something that both Muslims and the West want to happen for different reasons, that they'll easily fall into the hands of the zionists/west. I think it is a fluid process, no one except Allah really knows what will happen, all that I am hoping for is that we Muslims do our best to strive for our own interests and put our trust in Allah swt.
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جوري
03-04-2012, 12:48 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza Asadullah
Why did the west not help the Bahraini people?
Actually the bahrinis got the most coverage because they were shiites and they really love to have that kind of divide like the one they caused in Sudan. It didn't work for several reasons, one of them being the economic situation of the region. In order for a revolt to be successful, the people have to have reached a point of no return and that can only be established when there's nothing left to lose.
If you look at Egypt as an example, it was both political and economic crises plus nepotism plus extreme injustice against the average individual.
Naturally there's a western element, including the one which enabled them to free the political American prisoners they had n custody. However the New Brotherhood on top of majlis as'sha3b have called for an investigation. The problem is never the head of the snake for he's 82 the problem is all the poison he permeated society with for the past 30 something years.. that I bet you is more difficult to rid of as it is tightly wound.. but an Islamic state is coming wlaw karaha alkfeereen insha'Allah..

:w:
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Abz2000
03-04-2012, 12:59 AM
you force me to respond, i hope i am not wrong in speaking the truth - it was from the devil.

if nato lands - the events begin to play out more clearly,
it is a fact that though the Muslims drove the romans out from the arabian Peninsula, neither the europeans, nor the english did, and the roman's bought their culture to britain and later exported it to amerikkka.
they will land as the enemies of Islam and not it's saviours - so we shouldn't really celebrate such an event,
the Muslims will be the enemies of the Romans - not the allies:


The North Atlantic Treaty Organization or NATO (

/ˈnt/ nay-toh; French:Organisation du traité de l'Atlantique Nord (OTAN)), also called the (North) Atlantic Alliance, is an intergovernmental military alliance based on the North Atlantic Treatywhich was signed on 4 April 1949. NATO headquarters are in Brussels, Belgium, and the organization constitutes a system of collective defence whereby its member states agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party. The alliance includes 28 members in North America and Europe, with the most recent being Albania and Croatia who joined in April 2009.


Hadhrat Thawban reported that the Prophet:saw: said:


"The People will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish."
Someone asked: "Will that be because of our small numbers at that time?"


He :saw: replied:


"No, you will be numerous at that time: but you will be scum and rubbish like that carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the breasts of your enemy and cast Wahn in your hearts (because of your OWN actions.)"
Someone asked: "What is Wahn Ya Rasoolulah :saw:?"


The Prophet :saw: replied:


( ﺕﻮﻤﻟﺍ ﻪﺘﻴﻫﺍﺮﮐﻭﺎﻴﻧﺪﻟﺍﺐﺣ )


"Love of the world (and worldly life) and hatred (and fear) of death."
(Related by Imam Ahmad with strong chains of narrators, and Abu Dawud).


Yusayr ibn Jabir said, "Once there was a red storm in Kufah. A man camewho had nothing to say except, 'O 'Abd Allah ibn Mas'ud, has the Hourcome?" 'Abd Allah was sitting reclining against something, and said, 'TheHour will not come until people will not divide inheritance, nor rejoiceover booty.'
Pointing towards Syria, he said.
'An enemy will gather forces against the Muslims and the Muslims will gather forces against them.'

I asked, 'Do you mean the Romans?'
He said, 'Yes.

At that time there will bevery heavy fighting. The Muslims will prepare a detachment to fight to thedeath; they will not return unless they are victorious. They will fightuntil night intervenes. Both sides will return without being victorious;then many will be killed on both sides. On the fourth day, the Muslims whoare left will return to the fight, and Allah will cause the enemy to berouted. There will be a battle the like of which has never been seen, sothat even if a bird were to pass their ranks, it would fall down deadbefore it reached the end of them. Out of a family of one hundred, onlyone man will survive, so how could he enjoy the booty or divide anyinheritance? While they are in this state, they will hear of an even worsecalamity. A cry will reach them: "The Dajjal has taken your place amongyour offspring." So they will throw away whatever is in their hands and goforward, sending 10 horsemen as a scouting party. The Prophet said, 'Iknow their names, and the names of their fathers, and the colours of theirhorses. They will be the best horsemen on the face of the earth on thatday.' " (Ahmad, Muslim).

Abu Hurayrah said, "The Prophet said,
'The Hour will not come until
the Romans camp at al-A'mash or Dabiq.
An army, composed of the best people on earth at that time, will come out from Madinah to meet them
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When they have arranged themselves in ranks, theRomans will say, 'Do not stand between us and those who took prisonersfrom amongst us. Let us fight with them.' One-third will run away, andAllah will never forgive them. One-third will be killed, and they will bethe best of martyrs in Allah's sight. One-third, who will never besubjected to trials or tribulations, will win, and will conquerConstantinople.







let us not forget who the real enemy is.

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Al-Mufarridun
03-04-2012, 01:02 AM
a rouge shares his views

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Hamza Asadullah
03-04-2012, 01:11 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Al-Mufarridun
well if that is the case, that these are staged uprisings, then aren't the uprising in Yemen and Bahrain also 'staged by the zionist/west'? of course for them it is pick and choose? do you really expect them to support and Islamic awakening or even a change in the status quo of a country that is positioned in their favor? They will choose libya, syra and Iran over yemen, bahrain and the house of saud. That is obvious, and expected. Ui

What i refuse to accept is the pessimistic view that when the libyan and syrian regimes fall, something that both Muslims and the West want to happen for different reasons, that they'll easily fall into the hands of the zionists/west. I think it is a fluid process, no one except Allah really knows what will happen, all that I am hoping for is that we Muslims do our best to strive for our own interests and put our trust in Allah swt.
:sl:

It is like a domino affect. One "uprising" will cause another in the same region and as soon as you have an "uprising" that you want to manipulate for your own gain and long term agenda then you use the media to fool and decieve the world whilst you are arming and rounding up rebel fighters and using them to force government troops to attack and then blame all the casualties on them. If the rebels want to stop civilian killings then put your foreign weapons down and stop hiding amongst civilians. It works both ways.

The world has already seen the results of foreign intervention in Muslim countries. When they "freed" the Afghanis, Iraqis, Libyans and now they want to "free" the Syrian people. Yeah right. They couldnt care less about a Muslim life. So looking at the results of foreign intervention so far do you really think that the Syrian people will be freed? If you think that a country descending into chaos and much killing is freedom then we have different definitions of what freedom is.
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جوري
03-04-2012, 01:21 AM

remove ........
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جوري
03-04-2012, 01:24 AM


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Abz2000
03-04-2012, 01:42 AM
if anyone thinks that inviting nato or the arab league - all of whom are guilty of many more war crimes - to come and "help" the Muslims of the peninsula will "help",
they really need to reconsider their allegiances and the notion of Al Walaa wal Baraa.

i don't entertain the idea that baathist assad is ruling by Islam, just like i didn't with baathist saddam.
but i do know that the only ones so far attacked are the ones who were vocal against the false "war on terror" and the ones who supported armed Islamic groups.

and i am certain that all those pretending to show concern for the people of Syria wouldn't hesitate to slaughter their own populations if they came out and started shooting police.
Including America, Britain, France and Saudi Arabia.
only difference is that these countries don't have nato arms flooding in to fight their governments or bought off media stations to stir chaos..

The solution will be Islam, and i assure you that the ones pretending to want to help only want to stir chaos in the region and target and disarm Islamic groups.

here, i put together a video for you:

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Jedi_Mindset
03-04-2012, 12:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ßlµêßêll
Yes you know what the perfect solution is? The perfect solution is to live under despotic rule, have Muslims in prisons, have Gazans in Egyptians Jails, have sisters stripped, have oil sold to Israel for pennies, have parts of our countries divided into factions, have foreign forces invade, have armies turn against their own citizens. All those revolting should simply go home for their alwaite regime which mocks God makes people kneel before Bashar and take him for a God is best, or a guy who wrote his own Quran while bombing mistrata or or .. You're absolutely right, I don't know why those idiots are out in the street dying by the thousands by Bashar's regime.. it is doctored up anyway those children with bullets in their heads are NATO armed rebels and it is really pro Israel to revolt..

Thank God for that exuding genius that is steeped in half in conspiracy theories with the other half its head in the sand.
you don't know that this is a war leading up to a bigger one: war against Iran. This ''revolution'' is a great strategy to overthrow the regime of al-assad, and to stop the funding of hezbollah and hamas-both enemies of israel. If syria is down, iran will lose his only ally in the middle east, hezbollah and hamas don't recieve arms anymore, and israel/usa/Eu are free to attack Iran. Thank you for supporting their master plan. And from there on, killings of millions of muslims !


http://dailymessenger.com.pk/world/2012/02/27/israeli-minister-backs-assads-fall-as-beneficial-to-tel-aviv/


And see this:

As of the year 2000, there were seven countries without a Rothschild-owned Central Bank:


Afghanistan
Iraq
Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran

Then along came the convenient terror of 9-11 and soon Iraq and Afghanistan had been added to the list, leaving only five countries without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild Family:

Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran


We all know how fast the Central Bank of Benghazi was set up.
The only countries left in 2011 without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild Family are:

Cuba
North Korea
Iran


In the coming years, you will probably see also threats against cuba and N-korea.
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جوري
03-04-2012, 02:31 PM
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Jedi_Mindset
03-04-2012, 04:04 PM
And Again, i never said that i want this regime to keep rulling, but after what happened in libya...thousands of USA troops are there to secure the important oil places like brega.
USA won't collapse if they lose a war with Iran, there is a big difference between military industrial complex and the planned economic collapse by the bankers. USA lost vietnam war also? Did it collapse? No.

The protocols of elders of the zion is a very good book regarding this...we are in the NWO now no doubt. The political strategies of the west are very clear now, war on syria, war on iran is defending israel. USA has bases in every arab country except Syria- Full spectrum dominance. Insha'Allah the ummah will rise again soon, and don't fall in the tricks of divide and conquer again. Syria is also victim of that. Sis Bluebell i suggest you look in to the trick of ''divide and conquer'' again, and then come back.
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Abz2000
03-04-2012, 04:14 PM


"we should be careful, the peoples and governments of the region should be vigilant, and should not be led astray by the satanic plots of the enemies, today is the day of unity among peoples, and of solidarity among governments, we should join hands and help the people of Iraq and palestine, afghanistan and lebanon. Today, by helping one another, we can drive out the foreigners from our region."
President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad - 2006
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جوري
03-04-2012, 04:31 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Mindset
USA won't collapse if they lose a war with Iran, there is a big difference between military industrial complex and the planned economic collapse by the bankers. USA lost vietnam war also? Did it collapse? No.
US will collapse when Allah swt so wills a little hurricane a little earth quake it doesn't have to be in the way you imagine.. did the pharaoh perish at the hands of Moses? Did Ahel madyan perish at the hands of sho3ayeb? Did Thamud collapse to the hands of Saleh? How about Ād were they destroyed at the hands of Hud? etc. etc.
These stories aren't meant for us to merely read and not go past our throat they're meant to serve as an example.. The only thing we can do is what we're asked to do which is work for change and leave the rest to Allah swt.

Bashar has done no more than act as a bridge between Iran and HizbuAllah I challenge you to name me one time when he used his army and air force against Israel? Israel and its western poodles are afraid that the result of the revolts will be an Islamic state hence they send their devils here and there but it is meaningless since they only device as only humans can..

Al-Imran [3:54]

وَمَكَرُواْ وَمَكَرَ اللّهُ وَاللّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ
Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru almakireena
3:54 And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.

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Jedi_Mindset
03-04-2012, 04:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ßlµêßêll
US will collapse when Allah swt so wills a little hurricane a little earth quake it doesn't have to be in the way you imagine.. did the pharaoh perish at the hands of Moses? Did Ahel madyan perish at the hands of sho3ayeb? Did Thamud collapse to the hands of Saleh? How about Ād were they destroyed at the hands of Hud? etc. etc.
These stories aren't meant for us to merely read and not go past our throat they're meant to serve as an example.. The only thing we can do is what we're asked to do which is work for change and leave the rest to Allah swt.
This is what i agree upon.



format_quote Originally Posted by ßlµêßêll
Bashar has done no more than act as a bridge between Iran and HizbuAllah I challenge you to name me one time when he used his army and air force against Israel? Israel and its western poodles are afraid that the result of the revolts will be an Islamic state hence they send their devils here and there but it is meaningless since they only device as only humans can..
Its kinda difficult to understand about what is happening now in syria, as my list showed is that syria already contains rothchild banks. the only reasons are that they really want syria to be in chaos: the muslims will fight against each other, to ppave a easier way to attack Iran, to stop the arming of hamas and hezbollah and ofcourse the defending of israel. Libya didn't had USA bases before, now it has. Same will happen in syria, and it will be much easier to attack Iran. Iran is surrounded by USA bases but only not in Syria. Syria will also defend iran in case of attack (syria contains alot of S-300 missles, if in case israel attacks iran, syria will surely fire them on israel)
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جوري
03-04-2012, 04:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Mindset
Its kinda difficult to understand about what is happening now in syria, as my list showed is that syria already contains rothchild banks. the only reasons are that they really want syria to be in chaos: the muslims will fight against each other, to ppave a easier way to attack Iran, to stop the arming of hamas and hezbollah and ofcourse the defending of israel. Libya didn't had USA bases before, now it has. Same will happen in syria, and it will be much easier to attack Iran. Iran is surrounded by USA bases but only not in Syria.
This is conjectural .. be that as it may things will unravel as they're meant.. nothing lasts forever, maybe a war with Iran is inevitable, the Jews of Iran are congregated in Isfahan where he has his nuclear plants, maybe this is meant for their exodus to 'Israel' as prophecized and for their ultimate demise Allah knows best. But change in whatever form won't happen because of inertia. So I have no idea how you or the rest would like for a khilafah to come about? one day Despot next day Islamic state by a sprinkle of magic dust? Something very drastic and very horrible has to happen for people to realize what they need and for them to unite..

:w:
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Jedi_Mindset
03-04-2012, 04:58 PM
There is also hadith that 70,000 jews from isfahan will follow dajjal, don't know if it is a valid one. Maybe the upcoming war on Iran will chase them away, and they will migrate to israel. Or something will happen that they won't be safe anymore.. Allah knows best.

The arrival of Mahdi(As) will wake us up soon insha'Allah, even though he may not arrive in our lifetime, only Allah knows these matters. Some drastic events will coming up soon, which will make you choose: or you will follow dajjal or you will be amongst the pious believers. Insha'Allah
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Said_Soussi
12-19-2012, 01:52 PM
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islamica
12-21-2012, 12:39 AM
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sister herb
12-21-2012, 12:44 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by islamica
Freedom? Armed men hit un-armed man and women? Is this some kind of freedom?

:hmm:

Are men pro-goverment or not, whose are victims? Could you send translation about video if it not by English?
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islamica
12-21-2012, 05:06 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by sister harb
Freedom? Armed men hit un-armed man and women? Is this some kind of freedom?

:hmm:

Are men pro-goverment or not, whose are victims? Could you send translation about video if it not by English?
i was hoping the sister شَادِنُ could provide translation for us.
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جوري
12-21-2012, 05:22 AM
Those are Alwaite pigs beating your bro & srs. and they kill them en masse on the side.. but you know whenever we start a thread on shiite violence against sunnis a couple of khwarij here manage to get it closed with their oh look at the plight of the Yupik people. So they basically run the forum and I have lost interest in wanting folks to focus on the issues of their ummah but that's because they're not a part of it!


:w:
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sister herb
12-21-2012, 09:54 AM
Salam alaykum

Thanks about explanation of video.
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جوري
12-21-2012, 12:46 PM
and now Al'Maliki has accused raif3 al'isawi with terrorism, like he accused the vice president of corruption and sentenced him to death by hanging. He's getting good orders from Iran to terminate any Sunni opposition - Are you guys paying attention? or is today the day for the innuit plight?

:w:
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IslamicRevival
12-21-2012, 04:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by شَادِنُ
but you know whenever we start a thread on shiite violence against sunnis a couple of khwarij here manage to get it closed with their oh look at the plight of the Yupik people. So they basically run the forum and I have lost interest in wanting folks to focus on the issues of their ummah but that's because they're not a part of it!


:w:
Falsely declaring others as "disbelievers" (takfîr) is a trait of the Khawarij, you might want to reflect on that before cursing and throwing Muslims out of the fold of Islam. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo0pXKJo_RY
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جوري
12-21-2012, 05:05 PM
I don't need to watch a youtubr vid. to learn what Shiittes are and of those who are those in defense of them!
in fact we've already learned the 10 subjects from scholars that put someone outside the folds of Islam and something by way of that torture in the vid is one of them, and those who defend it are no better!


best,
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MartyrX
12-22-2012, 03:09 PM
No one will win after this is all said and done. Innocent blood has been spilled on both sides. I pray for the helpless in this situation. May Allah give them peace.
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جوري
12-22-2012, 03:15 PM
Allah :swt: promised righteous Muslims victory- so that is who the winners will be!

( وإن طائفتان من المؤمنين اقتتلوا فأصلحوا بينهما فإن بغت إحداهما على الأخرى فقاتلوا التي تبغي حتى تفيء إلى أمر الله فإن فاءت فأصلحوا بينهما بالعدل وأقسطوا إن الله يحب المقسطين إنما المؤمنون إخوة فأصلحوا بين أخويكم واتقوا الله لعلكم ترحمون )

ثم قال سبحانه وتعالى : ( وإن طائفتان من المؤمنين اقتتلوا فأصلحوا بينهما فإن بغت إحداهما على الأخرى فقاتلوا التي تبغي حتى تفيء إلى أمر الله ) .

لما حذر الله المؤمنين من النبأ الصادر من الفاسق ، أشار إلى ما يلزم منه استدراكا لما يفوت ، فقال : فإن اتفق أنكم تبنون على قول من يوقع بينكم ، وآل الأمر إلى اقتتال طائفتين من المؤمنين ، فأزيلوا ما أثبته ذلك الفاسق وأصلحوا بينهما ( فإن بغت إحداهما على الأخرى فقاتلوا التي تبغي ) أي الظالم يجب عليكم دفعه عنه ، ثم إن الظالم إن كان هو الرعية ، فالواجب على الأمير دفعهم ، وإن كان هو الأمير فالواجب على المسلمين منعه بالنصيحة فما فوقها ، وشرطه أن لا يثير فتنة مثل التي في اقتتال الطائفتين أو أشد منها ، وفيه مسائل :

المسألة الأولى : قوله تعالى : ( وإن ) إشارة إلى ندرة وقوع القتال بين طوائف المسلمين ، فإن قيل : فنحن نرى أكثر الاقتتال بين طوائفهم ؟ نقول : قوله تعالى : ( وإن ) إشارة إلى أنه ينبغي أن لا يقع إلا نادرا ، غاية ما في الباب أن الأمر على خلاف ما ينبغي ، وكذلك ( إن جاءكم فاسق بنبإ ) إشارة إلى أن مجيء الفاسق بالنبأ ينبغي أن يقع قليلا ، مع أن مجيء الفاسق بالنبأ كثير ، وقول الفاسق صار عند أولي الأمر أشد قبولا من قول الصادق الصالح .

المسألة الثانية : قال تعالى : ( وإن طائفتان ) ولم يقل : وإن فرقتان تحقيقا للمعنى الذي ذكرناه وهو التقليل ؛ لأن الطائفة دون الفرقة ، ولهذا قال تعالى : ( فلولا نفر من كل فرقة منهم طائفة ) [ التوبة : 122 ] .

المسألة الثالثة : قال تعالى : ( من المؤمنين ) ولم يقل منكم ، مع أن الخطاب مع المؤمنين لسبق قوله تعالى : ( ياأيها الذين آمنوا إن جاءكم فاسق بنبإ ) تنبيها على قبح ذلك وتبعيدا لهم عنهم ، كما يقول السيد لعبده : إن رأيت أحدا من غلماني يفعل كذا فامنعه ، فيصير بذلك مانعا للمخاطب عن ذلك الفعل بالطريق الحسن ، كأنه يقول : أنت حاشاك أن تفعل ذلك ، فإن فعل غيرك فامنعه ، كذلك ههنا قال : ( وإن طائفتان من المؤمنين ) ولم يقل منكم لما ذكرنا من التنبيه مع أن المعنى واحد .

المسألة الرابعة : قال تعالى : ( وإن طائفتان من المؤمنين اقتتلوا ) ولم يقل : وإن اقتتل طائفتان من المؤمنين ، مع أن كلمة " إن " اتصالها بالفعل أولى ، وذلك ليكون الابتداء بما يمنع من القتال ، فيتأكد معنى النكرة المدلول عليها بكلمة " إن " وذلك لأن كونهما طائفتين مؤمنتين يقتضي أن لا يقع القتال منهما ، فإن قيل : فلم لم يقل : يا أيها الذين آمنوا إن فاسق جاءكم ، أو إن أحد من الفساق جاءكم ، ليكون الابتداء بما يمنعهم [ ص: 110 ] من الإصغاء إلى كلامه ، وهو كونه فاسقا ؟ نقول : المجيء بالنبأ الكاذب يورث كون الإنسان فاسقا ، أو يزداد بسببه فسقه ، فالمجيء به سبب الفسق فقدمه . وأما الاقتتال فلا يقع سببا للإيمان أو الزيادة ، فقال : ( إن جاءكم فاسق ) أي سواء كان فاسقا أو لا ، أو جاءكم بالنبأ فصار فاسقا به ، ولو قال : وإن أحد من الفساق جاءكم ، كان لا يتناول إلا مشهور الفسق قبل المجيء إذا جاءهم بالنبأ .

المسألة الخامسة : قال تعالى : ( اقتتلوا ) ولم يقل : يقتتلوا ؛ لأن صيغة الاستقبال تنبئ عن الدوام والاستمرار ، فيفهم منه أن طائفتين من المؤمنين إن تمادى الاقتتال بينهما فأصلحوا ، وهذا لأن صيغة المستقبل تنبئ عن ذلك ، يقال : فلان يتهجد ويصوم .

المسألة السادسة : قال : ( اقتتلوا ) ولم يقل : اقتتلا ، وقال : ( فأصلحوا بينهما ) ولم يقل : بينهم ، ذلك لأن عند الاقتتال تكون الفتنة قائمة ، وكل أحد برأسه يكون فاعلا فعلا ، فقال : ( اقتتلوا ) وعند العود إلى الصلح تتفق كلمة كل طائفة ، وإلا لم يكن يتحقق الصلح فقال : ( بينهما ) لكون الطائفتين حينئذ كنفسين .

ثم قال تعالى : ( فإن بغت إحداهما ) إشارة إلى نادرة أخرى وهي البغي ؛ لأنه غير متوقع ، فإن قيل : كيف يصح في هذا الموضع كلمة " إن " مع أنها تستعمل في الشرط الذي لا يتوقع وقوعه ، وبغي أحدهما عند الاقتتال لا بد منه ، إذ كل واحد منهما لا يكون محسنا ، فقوله : ( أن ) تكون من قبيل قول القائل : إن طلعت الشمس ، نقول : فيه معنى لطيف ، وهو أن الله تعالى يقول : الاقتتال بين طائفتين لا يكون إلا نادر الوقوع ، وهو كما تظن كل طائفة أن الأخرى فيها الكفر والفساد ، فالقتال واجب كما سبق في الليالي المظلمة ، أو يقع لكل واحد أن القتال جائز بالاجتهاد ، وهو خطأ ، فقال تعالى : الاقتتال لا يقع إلا كذا ، فإن بان لهما أو لأحدهما الخطأ واستمر عليه فهو نادر ، وعند ذلك يكون قد بغى فقال : ( فإن بغت إحداهما على الأخرى ) يعني بعد استبانة الأمر ، وحينئذ فقوله : ( فإن بغت ) في غاية الحسن ؛ لأنه يفيد الندرة وقلة الوقوع ، وفيه أيضا مباحث :

الأول : قال : ( فإن بغت ) ولم يقل : فإن تبغ لما ذكرنا في قوله تعالى : ( اقتتلوا ) ولم يقل : يقتتلوا .

الثاني : قال : ( حتى تفيء ) إشارة إلى أن القتال ليس جزاء للباغي ، كحد الشرب الذي يقام وإن ترك الشرب ، بل القتال إلى حد الفيئة ، فإن فاءت الفئة الباغية حرم قتالهم .

الثالث : هذا القتال لدفع الصائل ، فيندرج فيه ، وذلك لأنه لما كانت الفيئة من إحداهما ، فإن حصلت من الأخرى لا يوجد البغي الذي لأجله حل القتال .

الرابع : هذا دليل على أن المؤمن بالكبيرة لا يخرج عن كونه مؤمنا ؛ لأن الباغي جعله من إحدى الطائفتين وسماهما مؤمنين .

الخامس : قوله تعالى : ( إلى أمر الله ) يحتمل وجوها :

أحدها : إلى طاعة الرسول وأولي الأمر ؛ لقوله تعالى : ( أطيعوا الله وأطيعوا الرسول وأولي الأمر منكم ) [ النساء : 59 ] .

وثانيها : إلى أمر الله ، أي إلى الصلح فإنه مأمور به يدل عليه قوله تعالى : ( وأصلحوا ذات بينكم ) [ الأنفال : 1 ] .

ثالثها : إلى أمر الله بالتقوى ، فإن من خاف الله حق الخوف لا يبقى له عداوة إلا مع الشيطان ، كما قال تعالى : ( إن الشيطان لكم عدو فاتخذوه عدوا ) [ فاطر : 6 ] .

السادس : لو قال قائل : قد ذكرتم ما يدل على كون الشرط غير متوقع الوقوع ، وقلتم بأن القتال والبغي من المؤمن نادر ، فإذن تكون الفيئة متوقعة ، فكيف قال : ( فإن فاءت ) [ الحجرات : 9 ] ؟ نقول : قول القائل لعبده : إن مت فأنت حر ، مع أن الموت لا بد من وقوعه ، لكن لما كان وقوعه بحيث يكون العبد محلا للعتق بأن يكون باقيا في ملكه حيا يعيش بعد وفاته غير معلوم ، فكذلك ههنا لما كان الواقع فيئتهم من تلقاء أنفسهم [ ص: 111 ] فلما لم يقع دل على تأكيد الأخذ بينهم فقال تعالى : ( فإن فاءت ) بقتالكم إياهم بعد اشتداد الأمر والتحام الحرب فأصلحوا ، وفيه معنى لطيف ، وهو أنه تعالى أشار إلى أن من لم يخف الله وبغى لا يكون رجوعه بقتالكم إلا جبرا .

السابع : قال ههنا : ( فأصلحوا بينهما بالعدل ) ولم يذكر العدل في قوله : ( وإن طائفتان من المؤمنين اقتتلوا فأصلحوا ) نقول : لأن الإصلاح هناك بإزالة الاقتتال نفسه وذلك يكون بالنصيحة أو التهديد والزجر والتعذيب ، والإصلاح ههنا بإزالة آثار القتل بعد اندفاعه من ضمان المتلفات وهو حكم ، فقال : ( بالعدل ) فكأنه قال : واحكموا بينهما بعد تركهما القتال بالحق وأصلحوا بالعدل مما يكون بينهما ؛ لئلا يؤدي إلى ثوران الفتنة بينهما مرة أخرى .

الثامن : إذا قال : ( فأصلحوا بينهما بالعدل ) فأية فائدة في قوله : ( وأقسطوا ) ؟ نقول : قوله : ( فأصلحوا بينهما بالعدل ) كان فيه تخصيص بحال دون حال ، فعمم الأمر بقوله : ( وأقسطوا ) أي في كل أمر مفض إلى أشرف درجة وأرفع منزلة وهي محبة الله ، والإقساط إزالة القسط وهو الجور ، والقاسط هو الجائر ، والتركيب دال على كون الأمر غير مرضي من القسط والقاسط في القلب ، وهو أيضا غير مرضي ولا معتد به ، فكذلك القسط .

ثم قال تعالى : ( إنما المؤمنون إخوة فأصلحوا بين أخويكم ) تتميما للإرشاد ؛ وذلك لأنه لما قال : ( وإن طائفتان من المؤمنين اقتتلوا ) كان لظان أن يظن أو لمتوهم أن يتوهم أن ذلك عند اختلاف قوم ، فأما إذا كان الاقتتال بين اثنين فلا تعم المفسدة فلا يؤمر بالإصلاح ، وكذلك الأمر بالإصلاح هناك عند الاقتتال ، وأما إذا كان دون الاقتتال كالتشاتم والتسافه ، فلا يجب الإصلاح ، فقال : ( بين أخويكم ) وإن لم تكن الفتنة عامة وإن لم يكن الأمر عظيما كالقتال ، بل لو كان بين رجلين من المسلمين أدنى اختلاف فاسعوا في الإصلاح .






















































































http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/d...no=132&ID=4643
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MartyrX
12-22-2012, 03:21 PM
We can pray for that.
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~Zaria~
06-02-2013, 09:02 AM
:salam:

I was just wondering if the sentiments/ support for either side in Syrian revolution has changed over the past year/ 2 years for anyone?

For myself, I began from a base of uncertainty - with concern over zionist agendas that fueled the Arab Springs, and much of the conflict in the Middle East (as has already been expressed here).

However, over the past year, my own understanding and support has swayed towards that of Free Syria forces.
We have lost many, many brothers and sisters in this war – many martyrs in the way of Allah (in shaa Allah).

I often think about the following Sheikh Mustapha al Majzoub – born in Saudi, with Syrian roots, and resided with his family in Australia.
He strongly campaigned against the Assad regime – and subhanAllah, he was one of those sheikhs who actually ‘walked the talk’. Last year he left his home, wife and 3 young kids to be physically on the front-lines of humanitarian relief.

He became shaheed (in shaa Allah) last Eid.
I am reminded of his appeal that he made early last year:








In the second video, he explains that we should not forget that the Syrian people are not in uprising against a muslim leader and army……but a kaafir regime.









Indeed, which muslim joins forces with hezbollah against his sunni brothers and sisters?
Which muslim army destroys masjids, amongst which the Omari masjid – the minaret of which was built by caliphate, Omar bin-al-Khattab?


Assad forces destroy symbolic Syrian mosque

Published April 14th, 2013



President Bashar al-Assad's forces on Saturday destroyed the Omari mosque in the southern city of Daraa where Syria's uprising erupted two years ago, opposition activists said on Sunday, according to reports from AFP news agency.

In an amateur video uploaded to YouTube, the mosque's towering minaret can be seen toppling into a cloud of dust after an apparent shelling.

On Sunday, the opposition Syrian National Council reportedly blamed the regime for the attack.

According to AFP, the Council said: "This regime of unrestrained barbarism targeted with tanks the minaret of the Omari mosque, a place full of symbols of civilisation and spirituality and humanity."

"The minaret of this mosque, which was build by Caliph Omar bin al-Khattab, is the first in the whole of the Levant, and has been destroyed by the soldiers of the tyrant," it added, referring to President Assad.

The Omari mosque played a pivotal role in the beginning of the Syrian uprising as the first place demonstrators gathered in March 2011 to protest the arrest and alleged torture of teenagers who sprayed anti-Assad graffiti, sparking the waves of weekly peaceful demonstrations that eventually spread across the country.

At the start of the uprising, the mosque was briefly used as a civilian hospital for wounded protestors and, for the past two years, it has been a gathering place for anti-regime protestors.

"It was the first place that embraced the Syrian revolution during its infancy, the first wave of demonstrations of pride and dignity came out through its doors," said the Council.

Opposition group, the Local Coordination Committees of Syria (LCC), reportedly condemned the destruction of the minaret as a "barbaric act," adding: "It is not just stones that are destroyed but also religious and historic heritage cherished by the Syrian people."

According to CNN, the LCC said there was shelling using surface-to-surface missiles and phosphorus bombs in Daraa and other parts of the country on Saturday.

Opposition activists have reportedly told the news site that the government is using an increasing number of phosphorus bombs - incendiary weapons that can cause serious chemical burns - in its attacks.

According to the LCC, by the end of Saturday, 115 people were killed in Syria, including 12 in Daraa.


The conflict in Syria, at present, seems to have no end in sight.
As long as there is continued support by means of arms and military backing, then war continues.
And innocent men, women and children are the silent victims that pay the heaviest price : (
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GuestFellow
06-02-2013, 11:24 AM
All I see is more people dying and confusion. Yeah so much for victory.
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Periwinkle18
06-02-2013, 02:47 PM
^ inshaAllah it will come soon

please listen to Allah is preparing us for victory by imam anwar al awlaki :)
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sister herb
06-02-2013, 02:51 PM
Salam alaykum

I need to be now negative. I afraid that civil war in Syria took years.

:cry:
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Jedi_Mindset
06-02-2013, 02:56 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
Salam alaykum

I need to be now negative. I afraid that civil war in Syria took years.

:cry:
Considering the flow of foreigners on both sides it can be true, but remember only Allah is able to remove calamities so it can end in a few months or in a few decades.
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~Zaria~
06-08-2013, 04:32 AM
:salam:

This appears to be South Africa's (and I guess many other countries) stance with regards to Syria:

South Africa still noncommittal on Syria stance


Qaanitah Hunter – Opinion | 07 June 2013

When it comes to Syria, South Africa does not want to burn its fingers.

If it has learned anything from Libya it is that no action may just be the best thing to do.

So what is South Africa’s position on Syria?

Back in 2011, as a novice in the Cii newsroom, I interviewed deputy minister of
International Relations, Ebrahim Ebrahim.

He was in Syria at the time in an effort to facilitate talks between Syrian
President Bashar al Assad and the the so called rebels.

That meeting was significant. South Africa coordinated a meeting with both sides
present- something which the Arab League had been trying to do for a long time.

Nonetheless, the talks were unsuccessful as is evident by the ongoing war and losses of
life.

In my brief interview with Ebrahim, he noted that South Africa wanted to see a
resolution to the Syrian crisis by the Syrian people.

He also articulated South African support for a UN resolution on Syria.

But that was back when a few thousands were killed and a few towns destroyed.

Fast forward, and Syria is a broken country.
Close to 100 000 have been estimated to be killed and millions have been left displaced.

The world is desperate for solutions to the ongoing bloodshed amid calls for Assad
to step down.

The South African government has a very uncomfortable position as of late: don’t
trust the rebels and don’t talk peace without the Syrian government’s involvement.

So does this mean that we support Assad?

Minister Ebrahim explained it very we’ll in a conversation I had with him this year.

“It is not as simple as supporting one side and opposing the other because there are
not two sides in Syria,” he said.

Ebrahim said that it is clear that both sides are part of the violence and the
opposition is factional in its existence and hence problematic.

“Both sides are guilty of atrocities and both sides are proxies for other countries’
interests,” he said.

The South African government believes no country should stick its finger in Syria’s
(bloody) pie.

“Syrians must resolve their own crises. They must have inclusive talks and form a
constitution based on democratic principles,” Ebrahim said earlier in May.

To simplify all of this: we are scared of military intervention and regime change as
was done in Libya.

Libya, to this date, remains a dark cloud over Africa and more so South Africa as
the death of Muammar Ghadafi did not end the conflict.

In May this year South Africa voted against a draft resolution on Syria in the
United Nations.

Dirco spokesperson, Clayson Monyela, explained that the resolution constituted
regime change and South Africa would never support that.

But how then are we proposing to end the conflict?

Former minister in the presidency, Essop Pahad, explained this to me once saying that the
crises in Syria should be solved by negotiations as was done in South Africa at the
end of apartheid.

“All parties came together and we compromised and came to a democratic resolution.
We didn’t exclude the Nats or even the IFP,” he said.

Pahad explained that Assad should not be excluded from peace talks and Syrians
should agree on a leader, create a new constitution and hold democratic elections.

It all looks very good on paper and in theory but in the mean time lives are lost
and bloodshed continues.

However, I’ve come to realise that no external political action may well be the best
position to have.

A Syrian journalist turned waiter in a Johannesburg restaurant summed it up quite
well: America and Europe want to control Syria for their own benefit; Russia, China
and Iran support Assad for their own benefit; but while they are pursuing their own
interests, people are dying.

qaanitah@gmail.com


http://www.ciibroadcasting.com/2013/06/07/south-africa-still-noncommittal-on-syria-stance/
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GuestFellow
06-08-2013, 09:19 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
Salam alaykum

I need to be now negative. I afraid that civil war in Syria took years.

:cry:
:sl:

Well at least your being realistic.
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KAding
06-09-2013, 08:12 AM
Syria rebels trounced near Qusair

The last rebel stronghold near the strategic town of Qusair, western Syria, has fallen to government forces, Syrian state TV says.

Eastern Bouweida village, which lies between Qusair and the restive city of Homs was captured by troops backed by militants from Lebanon's Hezbollah.
The Syrian army regained control of the town of Qusair on Wednesday after weeks of intense fighting with rebel forces.
The rebels have now lost a key supply route into neighbouring Lebanon.
"We can now declare Qusair and the surrounding area to be a fully liberated area. We will go after the terrorists wherever they are," an unnamed, senior Syrian army officer told state television on Saturday.
The TV report showed shattered buildings and vehicles and weaponry abandoned by fleeing rebels in the village.
Activists say that dozens of rebel fighters, including some foreign fighters, have been captured alive in Bouweida, but their fate is not yet known.
One question now, says the BBC's Jim Muir in Beirut, is what became of the civilians, the wounded and the fighters who fled there from Qusair, believed to number hundreds of people.
What's clear though, he adds, is that the entire area has now come back under government control.

Treatment in Lebanon
Aid agencies such as the Red Cross have been trying to gain access to the hundreds of injured civilians believed to have fled Qusair.
Some 30 families are reported to have fled to the town of Arsal, near the border with Lebanon, a local official told AFP news agency.
Dozens of wounded rebels have also arrived in Arsal awaiting treatment, with at least 28 wounded fighters receiving treatment in a hospital in Baalbek, eastern Lebanon, a Lebanese security official told the news agency.
Over half a million Syrians have fled to neighbouring Lebanon since the conflict broke out in March 2011.
On Friday, the UN launched its largest ever aid appeal seeking $5bn (£3.2bn; 3.7bn euros) for humanitarian aid to Syria.
Lebanon and Jordan have both joined the appeal, asking for donations of $450 million (£289m) and $380 million (£245m) respectively to cover the financial costs of hosting the rising count of Syrian refugees.
More than 80,000 people have been killed in Syria and more than 1.5 million have fled the country since the uprising against President Assad began two years ago, according to UN estimates.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22828142
It seems the active involvement of Hezbollah is turning the tide against the opposition fighters. Well, in the border regions at least. I can't imagine Hezbollah has the will or force to make a difference in all of Syria (especially more in the north)?
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عابر سبيل
06-30-2013, 12:43 PM
For those who speak Arabic, some very good information on the current war against Islam can be found in the video titled:

الشيخ أحمد الأسير:"حقيقة الصراع"

This sheikh is currently fighting the shiite waves in Lebanon, where they plan to disarm the Sunni population so that they can wipe them out en masse as they did in Iraq, where over a million Muslim lives have been extinguished. The shia are the most effective tool against Muslims, even historically, and today's powers have figured this out. They plan to complete the dagger that thrusts into the heart of the Muslim world, extending from Iran to Lebanon. So to that end, they must get Syria, the final piece of this dagger.

Of course the shiites think they can liberate Palestine, but really in their religion, the ultimate goal is revenge on Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaa`ah. They believe when the Mahdi comes that the jews and christians will join them anyway, unlike "the nawaasib" Sunnis, whom they believe are against Ahlul Bayt.
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Abz2000
11-20-2015, 09:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza Asadullah
.....the fact that the weapons are mainly french...
Interesting observation brother, God knows where you're at,
Was reading through this thread from page one and am not too amazed at how things are panning out - it appears that the media hype around the time of the start of this thread had made some to forget that the corrupt colonialists had positioned themselves as enemies of Islam quite a while back
Well the plot continues to unravel and Allah's plan continues to surround it.
Sarcozy's investments are maturing fast - after 250,000 dead.
Something of an Islamic State is straddling the border between iraq and syria, the fact that it's across the border has helped blur the nationalist border rhetoric, obama's still in iraq, the days of reliance on columbian ex-FARC mercenaries have passed, excuses for bombing muslims in syria are still weak, though regularly prodded for.
hundreds of thousands (if not millions) globally have ditched government worship and have accepted God as their ruler and Islam as their way of life.
Amazing how some weird people still believe the democracy lie though when most - if not all of the faces change - whilst the stories of the "looney conspiracy theorists" continue to play out.

Did i hear them say they want to support assad now?
Or is it just that they're still trying to get their bloody hands in Syria?
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Abz2000
06-28-2017, 12:01 AM
Latest:


Israeli airstrikes fail to propel Al-Qaeda forces in the Golan Heights
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A rebel fighter of al-Jabha al-Shamiya (the Shamiya Front) covered with mud carries his weapon as he sits near the front line with Bashkuwi village, north of Aleppo, Syria, February 19, 2015. REUTERS/Rami Zayat

BEIRUT, LEBANON (10:55 A.M.) – The Al-Qaeda lined rebels received a big boost from the Israeli Air Force these last 72 hours, as the latter has carried out at least three different attacks against the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) in the Golan Heights region of Al-Quneitra.

With the Syrian Air Force grounded, the jihadist rebels attempted to bully their way through several different fronts in the Golan Heights; however, every attack has ended with their forces sustaining heavy casualties and significant damage to their military equipment.

The latest attack by the jihadist rebels targeted the strategic hilltop of Tal Ahmar, which is located near the U.N. ceasefire zone in the Golan Heights.

https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/arti...golan-heights/





Fighting intensifies in Syrian Golan Heights
At least 12 people reportedly killed as Assad's forces and opposition fighters clash in Quneitra amid Israeli strikes.

Fighting between government forces and opposition fighters has intensified in the Quneitra province in Syria's south, situated in the 30 percent part of the Golan Heights under Syrian control.

More than a dozen people were killed, including both pro-government forces and opposition fighters, in the latest increase in fighting in the countryside of al-Baath city and near the town of Khan Arnab, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) said on Sunday.

The deaths came as the al-Qaeda-linked Levant Liberation Committee [Hayat Tahrir al-Sham] and allied anti-government groups launched an offensive to take control of al-Baath city, one of the few towns in the province that has remained under control of Syrian government forces in recent years.

Abu Omar al-Jolani, a Quneitra-based media activist, told Al Jazeera that "the battle is ongoing" and that armed groups "managed to break the regime's first line of defence".

Also on Sunday, Israeli fighter jets targeted Syrian government positions in the region for a second day in a row, reportedly destroying a handful of tanks.

The UK-based SOHR reported that the strikes killed two Syrian army soldiers and injured several others.

After Israeli air strikes hit the area on Saturday, Syrian state news agency SANA accused Israel of supporting the Levant Liberation Committee, formerly known as al-Nusra Front.

Israel has been occupying roughly 70 percent of the Golan Heights since the 1967 Middle East war.

Since the outbreak of fighting in the Golan region in 2012, it has carried out sporadic air strikes, mostly targeting government forces and their allies.

In recent months, President Bashar al-Assad's forces, backed by Russian air power, have gained ground in Syria from opposition fighters and armed groups.
New attack launched

Since the war began in 2011, it has killed hundreds of thousands, driven millions more from their homes, caused a global refugee crisis and drawn in regional and world powers.

The conflict is far from over. Opposition fighters hold large expanses of the country, including around Idlib province near Hama, and launched a new attack in Quneitra in the southwest on Saturday.

Anti-government fighters also hold the Eastern Ghouta area near Damascus, parts of the desert in the southeast and a large pocket south of Hama around the city of Rastan.


As recently as March, opposition fighters advanced from Idlib province to within a few miles of Hama, before the army and its allies pushed them back in weeks of fierce fighting.

However, the army drove the fighters from their biggest urban stronghold in Aleppo in December and have also forced several important opposition enclaves to surrender over the past year.

US-led coalition air raids have also caused large numbers of civilian casualties, according to the SOHR.

It said on Saturday that coalition air strikes in and around Raqqa, the besieged stronghold of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) group, have killed nearly 700 civilians so far this year.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/0...033648183.html






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Israel Secretly Paying Salaries of Syrian Rebels on Golan Heights Border: Report
By Jack Moore On 6/19/17 at 9:34 AM

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Israel is secretly supporting Syrian rebels operating near its occupied Golan Heights territory, providing money, food, fuel and medical supplies, according to fighters who claim to receive the aid.

Israel has previously treated wounded Syrian rebels in its hospitals but interviews with rebels conducted by the Wall Street Journal suggest that Israel is directly supporting opponents of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the six-year-long civil war.

Israel is opposed to the rule of Assad and his forces. It also sees militants belonging to Lebanese militia Hezbollah who support Assad’s regime forces as posing a threat to its security on the Golan Heights border.

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Syrian rebels A picture taken from the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights shows armed men, reportedly rebel fighters, driving a motorcycle near an abandoned UN building in the Syrian side of the Golan Heights, at an abandoned U.N. base at the Quneitra border crossing, on November 28, 2016. Jack Guez/AFP/Getty

The payments are aimed at creating a buffer of friendly forces on the Golan Heights border, the Journal reports, to keep their foes at a distance.

It says the Israeli military has direct communication with rebel commanders and is providing funds to them that pay for their salaries, ammunition and weapons. The payments began in 2013 under former Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon and continue.
Read more: Israel launches airstrikes in Syria prompting retaliation

One particular group that Israel is allegedly supporting is Fursan al-Joulan, or the Knights of the Golan, which has around 400 fighters. It gives them $5,000 a month and Israel’s support ensures its existence, according to the group’s figures.

http://www.newsweek.com/israel-secre...heights-627155




Kulanu MK Akram Hasson's comments in an interview with Channel 2 came amid fierce battles in recent days near the Druse village of Khader in the Syrian Golan Heights.
Kulanu MK Akram Hasson issued a harsh rebuke of the IDF on Monday, saying that not only is the army not helping the Druse population caught up in Syria's civil war, it is cooperating with the Nusra Front, al-Qaida's Syrian affiliate.

Hasson's comments in an interview with Channel 2 came amid fierce battles in recent days near the Druse village of Khader in the Syrian Golan Heights.

Hasson accused Israel of being responsible for harm being caused to the Druse population of the Syrian Golan. "The IDF is shelling Syrian army positions, which is enabling the Nusra Front to seize Druse land."



The Kulanu MK further charged that "it is no secret that the IDF is cooperating with [the Nusra Front]. In the past they have told us that the Nusra Front coordinates with the IDF. We don't know? What, were we born yesterday?"

Hasson claimed that under former defense minister Moshe Ya'alon there was an agreement in place by which it was understood that nobody would enter the Druse village, and in exchange the local Druse would not interfere with the fighting in the area.

"Today, after they took control of the most strategic positions and after the Syrian army left the area, they blocked the access road to Damascus, and isolated Khader from the rest of Syria, and they are slaughtering people," he added.



Hasson's comments came a day after some 200 Israeli Druse held a demonstration in Majd al-Shams, calling on Israel to help their Syrian brethren.

The village of Khader, which is right across from Majd al-Shams, on the other side of Mount Hermon, is home to some 25,000 Druse.

The Nusra Front has sought to control Khader for some time in order to gain control of the entire Golan Heights. The al-Qaida-linked fighters number several hundred men as well as dozens of tanks that they have seized.

During fierce fighting near Khader last year, and fear for the Druse community, the IDF sent messages to the Nusra Front through the Free Syrian Army, warning the Islamist group not to harm Syria's Druse.

Yossi Melman contributed to this report.

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Co...f-Druse-467518





I still remember at the beginning of these events the whole threads that we had spent hours typing that zafran and co. complained were "conspiracy theory" and had deleted after they descended into arguments where some of us had stated that the crimes taking place in Syria were most likely being perpetrated by secularist western government mercenaries with the aim of provoking a war and creating justification for another illegal invasion of another country, and that instead of Muslim fighters attacking and destabilizing syria, as they were being prodded to do by the governments of U.S.A, France, and Britain, they would be better off legally attacking the secularist extremist armies illegally occupying Iraq, and that the pretence of helping Muslims was being used as a tool by the very people who were trying to harm Muslims.
It is illegal for the Non-Muslim Israeli mercenary government propped up by U.S.A and Britain to be attacking the people of Syria and using other hypocrite mercenaries with Muslim labels to kill people in Syria - what has the U.N done so far in condemning Israel and punishing them for these acts of illegal aggression? Bear witness to this deceitful secularist system which only uses so called "international law" when it comes to attempting to falsely justify crimes.
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MuhammadHamza1
06-28-2017, 06:30 AM
All I can see.
ARE SOME BRAINWASHED IDIOTS WHO DO NOT KNOW A THING ABOUT SYRIAN WAR.
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MuhammadHamza1
06-28-2017, 06:31 AM
I will shortly post a video Allah willing.
See it.
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سيف الله
08-13-2017, 08:10 AM
Salaam

George Galloways prediction on what would happen in Syria (2012). He's right.

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سيف الله
08-23-2017, 07:48 PM
Salaam

On Israels interests in destroying Syria.



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Salaam

Another update

Syria: Bashar al-Assad rejects security cooperation with west

Assad praises Russia, Iran, China and Hezbollah for supporting government as shell kills several at international fair




The Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, has railed against the west, saying any security cooperation with western nations or the reopening of their embassies would not happen until they cut ties with opposition and insurgent groups.

Shortly after Assad gave his speech, a shell hit the first international fair in the country since the war began six years ago, killing and wounding several people.
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Assad’s defiant comments come at a time when his troops and pro-Iranian militia are gaining ground across the country under the cover of Russian airstrikes. Many countries have ceased calling for him to step down.

Speaking in front of dozens of Syrian diplomats in Damascus, Assad praised Russia, Iran, China and Lebanon’s Hezbollah for supporting his government during the conflict. He said Syria would look east when it came to political, economic and cultural relations.

“The direct support of our friends, politically, economically and militarily, made our advance on the ground greater and the losses of war less. Therefore, they are our partners in these achievements on the road to crush terrorism,” Assad said.

“Let’s be clear. There will be no security cooperation nor opening of embassies or even a role for some countries that say that they want to play a role in ending the crisis in Syria before they clearly and frankly cut their relations with terrorism. At that point maybe we can speak about opening embassies.”

Following months of steady military advances, Syria’s government has sought to portray itself as the victor in a war that is winding down, and is looking ahead to reconstruction. The Syrian president said his country’s economy was turning to growth again “at a very slow pace, although we are under an almost complete embargo”.

The government had billed the international trade fair, which opened three days ago, as a victory and a sign of renewed confidence in the war-torn nation.

The Mortar News in Damascus Facebook page, which tracks violence in the capital, said the shell hit the entrance of the fair, killing four people and wounding four others.

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an opposition-run group that reports on both sides of the conflict, said the shell killed five people and wounded 11 but did not say who was behind the attack.

The state-run news agency said the shelling inflicted casualties but gave no further details. It blamed the rebels in the suburbs of the capital, saying they fired the shell in violation of a truce reached earlier this month in the eastern suburbs of Damascus known as eastern Ghouta.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/20/syria-bashar-al-assad-rejects-security-cooperation-with-west
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سيف الله
10-03-2017, 03:42 PM
Salaam

The rebellion is being slowly crushed.

Turkey seeks to isolate Syria Idlib jihadists opposing truce

ISTANBUL/BEIRUT (Reuters) - Turkey is luring militants away from the jihadist alliance that controls Syria’s northwestern Idlib province as a step toward implementing a deal to reduce violence there, Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said on Tuesday.

Idlib is one of four “de-escalation” zones which foreign powers agreed to establish in opposition territory in western Syria after years of civil war. But the former al Qaeda branch which controls the province has pledged to keep fighting Syrian government forces and their allies.

The ex-Nusra Front’s stance has raised doubt about how Turkey, one of three parties to the agreement, can proceed with plans to deploy observers inside Idlib. Russia and Iran, the other two countries involved, are due to police its edges.

Cavusoglu said the first stage, already under way, was to separate “moderate rebels” from “terror organizations” - a reference to Nusra, which cut ties with al Qaeda last year, rebranded itself and now spearheads the Tahrir al-Sham jihadist alliance that dominates Idlib.

His comments endorsed remarks by a rebel source who said that efforts by foreign states were under way to encourage defections from the alliance, to break it up, isolate it and reduce its capacity to oppose any Turkish military deployment.

“With regards to Nusra, they are working to weaken it through intelligence operations,” the source told Reuters. Those could include assassinations and campaigns to undercut the group’s popular support, the source said.

The aim was to encourage jihadist fighters who are not members of al Qaeda to “melt into society”.At least two million people live in Idlib, the largest populated Syrian area held by rebels - including some nationalist Free Syrian Army factions who sometimes fought alongside jihadists.

The province’s population has ballooned as thousands of civilians and combatants have left areas seized by the Syrian army in other parts of the country, with the help of Russian jets and Iran-backed militias.

ISOLATING JIHADISTS

Turkey already controls a swathe of northern Syria east of Idlib following a military incursion in 2016. The rebel source said up to 2,000 fighters being trained by Turkish forces could deploy to Idlib, where many people have close ties to Turkey and could welcome a Turkish presence.

Turkey has called for the overthrow of President Bashar al-Assad and supported several rebel factions, but has recently worked with Iran and Russia, both strong supporters of Assad, to stem the violence in Syria’s six-year conflict.

Comparing the array of factions fighting Assad to a divided family, Cavusoglu said it was vital to avoid indiscriminate bloodshed and criticized the continued Russian and Syrian air strikes in Idlib which he said were killing civilians.

”Think of a family with four sons,“ he said in a televised interview. ”Two of them are members of the Free Syrian Army, which everybody supports, one is not related to anything and the last one is a member of a terror organization.

“What do we do? Will we bomb this family and kill them all; the mother, father and small children? We have to determine the one and separate him from the others”.

Cavusoglu said work to separate the jihadists from other factions had been “going on rapidly”, but needed meticulous application and would require broad international support.

Tahrir al-Sham, which was formed in January, has been hit in recent months by the breakaway of two of its significant fighting factions, Nour el-Din al-Zinki and Jaish al-Ahrar.

In a change of leadership announced on Sunday, Abu Mohammad al-Jolani, the head of Nusra Front, assumed command of Tahrir al-Sham after Abu Jaber al-Sheikh quit that post. Tahrir al-Sham gave no reason for the resignation, adding in a statement that al-Sheikh had been appointed head of its Shura Council.

Insurgent sources in northwest Syria say ideological divisions between the groups that form Tahrir al-Sham have been a big factor leading to the departure of some members.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-idlib/turkey-seeks-to-isolate-syria-idlib-jihadists-opposing-truce-idUSKCN1C81UN?il=0

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Salaam

Another update

Israel sees Assad winning Syria war, urges more U.S. involvement

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel’s defense minister said on Tuesday President Bashar al-Assad was winning Syria’s civil war and urged the United States to weigh in as Damascus’s Iranian and Hezbollah allies gain ground.

Avigdor Lieberman’s comments marked a reversal for Israel, where top officials had from the outset of fighting in 2011 until mid-2015 regularly predicted Assad would lose control of his country and be toppled.

“I see a long international queue lining up to woo Assad, include Western nations, including moderate Sunnis. Suddenly everyone wants to get close to Assad. This is unprecedented. Because Assad is winning, everyone is standing in line,” he told Israel’s Walla news site.

In late 2015, Russia helped Assad turn the tide with a military intervention that put Moscow’s forces in the field alongside Israel’s most potent foes - Iran and the Lebanese guerrilla group Hezbollah - opposite Syrian rebels.

The United States has focused its Syria operations on fighting rebel jihadis like Islamic State - dismaying Israel, which has tried to persuade both Washington and Moscow that Iran’s expanding clout is the greater threat.

In its decades under Assad family rule, Syria has been an enemy of Israel, with their armies clashing in 1948, 1967, 1973 and 1982. While largely keeping out of the Syrian civil war, Israel has tried to sway the world powers involved in the conflict and cautioned it could strike militarily to prevent Iran and Hezbollah entrenching further on its northern front.

“We hope the United States will be more active in the Syrian arena and the Middle East in general,” Lieberman said. “We are faced with Russians, Iranians, and also the Turks and Hezbollah, and this is no simple matter to deal with, on a daily basis.”

Lieberman did not elaborate on what actions he sought from the Donald Trump administration, which Israel has been lobbying for reassurances that Iranian and Hezbollah forces will not be allowed to deploy near its border or set up bases within Syria.

“The United States has quite a few challenges of its own, but as a trend - the more the United States will be active, the better it will be for the State of Israel,” Lieberman said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-israel/israel-sees-assad-winning-syria-war-urges-more-u-s-involvement-idUSKCN1C81BK
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سيف الله
01-26-2018, 07:04 PM
Salaam

Long overdue update on the situation in Syria



More viewpoints

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JustTime
01-26-2018, 11:28 PM
قريباً بإذن الله
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سيف الله
02-03-2018, 10:45 AM
Salaam

Another update, most interesting.

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سيف الله
02-04-2018, 10:55 PM
Salaam

Another update



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سيف الله
02-10-2018, 01:46 PM
Salaam

Another update, after continuous air raids into Syria over the years looks like Israel's luck has run out.



Israel launches attacks in Syria after F-16 crashes

#SyriaWar

Israel says Iran and Syria are 'playing with fire' but that it is not seeking escalation


Israel said it launched air strikes against air defences and Iranian targets in Syria on Saturday and the Syrian army claimed to have hit an Israeli F-16 that crashed in northern Israel in a major escalation of tension. The Israeli military said the F-16 jet crashed during a mission to strike Iranian drone installations in Syria, where Iranian and Iran-backed forces have established a major foothold while fighting in support of President Bashar al-Assad. Israel said it had sent its jets into Syria after shooting down an Iranian drone flying over Israeli territory earlier on Saturday. Israel said its warplanes came under fire in Syria, though it was still unclear why the jet had come down.

"Twelve targets, including three aerial defense batteries and four Iranian targets that are part of Iran's military establishment in Syria were attacked," the Israeli military said in a statement.

"During the attack, anti-aircraft missiles were fired towards Israel, triggering alarms that were heard in Northern Israel," the military said. Israeli military spokesman Jonathan Conricus told journalists in a phone conference the Syrians and Iranians were "playing with fire" but Israel was "not looking to escalate the situation." "This is the most blatant and severe Iranian violation of Israeli sovereignty in the last years," Conricus said, referring to what he described as an Iranian drone entering Israeli airspace from Syria.

"That's why our response is as severe as it is."

The military alliance fighting in support of Assad said on Saturday that Israel will witness a "severe and serious" response to its "terrorism" from now on. In a statement, the alliance said Israeli claims that a drone entered Israeli airspace were a "lie".
The statement said Israel attacked a drone base in central Syria. The alliance added that drones had left the T4 air base in the morning to conduct routine operations against Islamic State in the Syrian desert.

"When the base was targeted our aircraft were still flying over the town of Sokhna, towards the desert," the statement said. Sokhna is a town northeast of the city of Palmyra in central Syria. "Reports of downing an Iranian drone flying over Israel and also Iran's involvement in attacking an Israeli jet are so ridiculous ... Iran only provides military advice to Syria," Iranian state TV quoted Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman Bahram Qasemi as saying.

Syrian state media reported two separate Israeli attacks. In the first one, a military source said Syrian air defences had opened fire in response to an Israeli act of "aggression" against a military base, hitting "more than one plane Later, Syrian state media said air defences were responding to a new Israeli assault and air defences had thwarted attacks on military positions in southern Syria.

Iran's expanding clout during Syria's nearly seven-year-long war, including deployments of Iran-backed forces near the Golan frontier, has raised alarm in Israel, which has said it would act against any threat from its regional arch-enemy Tehran.
The clashes marked a dangerous new confrontation between the international powers caught up in Syria's seven-year-old war.

Iranian and Iran-backed Shia forces, including Lebanon's Hezbollah, have deployed widely in support of Assad. Iran's military chief warned Israel last October against breaching Syrian airspace and territory.

Massive' anti-fire

Israel said one of its attack helicopters shot down an Iranian drone at around 4.30am (0230 GMT) that had come from Syrian into Israel. "In response, the IDF [Israel Defence Forces] targeted Iranian targets in Syria," the military said.
Conricus said a "substantial" number of Israeli warplanes on the mission had come under "massive Syrian anti-air fire", and only one Israeli jet was harmed.

The F-16 came down in a field near the northern Israeli village of Harduf, television footage showed, and one of the pilots was injured as they ejected, the military said. David Ivry, a former Israeli Air Force chief, told Reuters he believed it was the first time an Israeli F-16 had been brought down since Israel began using the jets in the 1980s.

"We don't know if the pilots ejected because of the [Syrian] fire," Conricus said. It was also unclear at what stage of the mission they ejected, he said, "but it is of extreme concern to us if they were shot down".

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-launches-attacks-syria-after-f-16-crashes-485299063
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سيف الله
02-15-2018, 12:27 AM
Salaam

Another update

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Desert
02-15-2018, 01:22 AM
I think syria is the only muslim nation that will attcked before the dajjal because the north korea war is a false alaram
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سيف الله
02-16-2018, 03:33 PM
Salaam

Another debate. Peter Lavelle is a little overenthusiastic in this debate, but worth a listen.

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سيف الله
02-23-2018, 11:27 PM
Salaam

Another update, long detailed article.

Putin’s Shadow Army Suffers a Setback in Syria


For the first time in fifty years, U.S. and Russian military forces have engaged in direct combat. Soldiers from the two countries last clashed during the Vietnam War, when Soviet soldiers shot down U.S. warplanes with anti-aircraft weapons. Last week, on February 7th, the two powers met again, when U.S. drones, attack helicopters, and fighter planes struck a contingent of pro-regime fighters near Deir Ezzor, a Kurdish-held city in eastern Syria. As would emerge later, among those killed were up to a hundred Russian citizens who were fighting in Syria as private military contractors, a shadowy mercenary force whose presence in Syria is not officially recognized by the Kremlin.

Not long before the attack, the Russian contractors, fighting alongside members of pro-Assad tribal militias, carried out a strike against a compound held by Syrian Democratic Forces, a Kurdish-led army, backed and advised by U.S. troops. During the maneuver, the Russian contractors crossed the Euphrates River near the town of Khusham, breaching what Moscow and Washington have agreed is the dividing line separating their respective zones of authority. U.S. Special Forces embedded with the S.D.F. called in the ferocious response from the air.

According to investigations in the Russian press, as many as two thousand or three thousand Russian contractors are involved in military operations in Syria. Most of them are linked to a structure called Wagner, a company that has apparent ties to Yevgeny Prigozhin, a onetime St. Petersburg restaurateur who became close to Vladimir Putin in the early aughts. Prigozhin ended up with lucrative contracts to supply food to the Russian Army and has taken to overseeing the sorts of enterprises that the Kremlin finds useful but doesn’t want to manage itself. On Friday, the special counsel, Robert Mueller, indicted Prigozhin and twelve other Russian nationals for allegedly interfering in the 2016 U.S. Presidential election. He is widely linked to a so-called troll factory in St. Petersburg, where hundreds of people are paid to sit and create fake social-media accounts to foster discontent and confusion in political discussions online. Wagner was named by its commander, a former Russian special-forces officer named Dmitry Utkin, who is a fan of the German composer. In 2016, Utkin was photographed at a Kremlin ceremony in which Putin handed out awards for military valor.

Many of the Wagner mercenaries previously fought with pro-Russia rebel groups in eastern Ukraine; their motives run from financial necessity to a kind of ultra-patriotic enthusiasm. (According to the Conflict Intelligence Team, an online monitoring group, average monthly salaries at Wagner range from ninety thousand to two hundred and fifty thousand rubles, or about sixteen hundred to forty-four hundred dollars.) Wagner fighters tend to be drawn from a hodgepodge of experienced veterans, war adventurers, and committed nationalists. A field commander who fought in Ukraine and knew many of those who died in Syria told the Russian paper Moskovsky Komsomolets, “They believed they went to defend the Russian world on the edges of our sphere of influence. So write it like this: ‘They perished for the sake of their homeland, and for an idea.’ ”

It remains unclear why the Russian contractors attacked the compound in Syria held by the American-backed militia. An oil-processing plant in the area might have been the ultimate target—an objective with both mercantile and strategic appeal in the Syrian war. A report in Moskovsky Komsomolets went further, quoting a source in Syria who said “it was a purely commercial issue. It had nothing to do with war.” Another Russian paper, Kommersant, reported that the offensive operation had not been sanctioned by the country’s official military command in Syria and was viewed as a “dangerous self-initiative.” According to U.S. military officials, before launching the air strikes they used a Russian-U.S. hotline to ask if Russian forces were in the area, and were told that none had crossed the Euphrates—meaning that the Russian military command either was not aware of the movements of the private contractors or did not want to admit the presence of soldiers it does not openly acknowledge.

When I spoke with Noah Bonsey, a senior analyst at the International Crisis Group who covers Syria, he told me that the entire incident is “clouded in more ambiguity than usual, even by the standards of the Syrian war.” As he put it, “The key question is: Who ordered this foray across the Euphrates, and why? Was it a local decision? Did the Russian military command know about it?” He suggested that the oil facility made sense as a target because, in recent weeks, the Trump Administration has referred explicitly to control over the oil fields of eastern Syria as leverage in the ongoing conflict. This may have increased Russia’s interest in those same oil fields. At the same time, Kurdish forces are caught in a prolonged battle with the Turkish Army in Afrin, in northern Syria. The S.D.F. has moved some of its troops to aid in the fight, repositioning them out of Deir Ezzor. “Someone may have viewed that as an opportunity,” Bonsey said.

Russia’s official involvement in the war in Syria began with an air campaign that Putin launched in September, 2015. Since then, reports have circulated in the Russian press of undeclared, private Russian mercenaries fighting on the ground. Russian contractors participated in both battles for Palmyra. The liberation of the city is perhaps Russia’s chief propaganda victory in the war. Shadowy,undeclared mercenary forces are attractive for several reasons: they allow the Kremlin to maintain the fiction that Russia is fighting from the air only, giving Putin the opportunity to declare an easy victory and avoid public discontent over the loss of human lives during a dragged-out conflict. Last December, during a surprise visit to a Russian airbase in Syria, Putin said that the “task of combating the armed groups here in Syria” had been “largely resolved,” and made a show of ordering many Russian units to leave the country.

Over the last two and a half years, Russia’s intervention in Syria has served several of the country’s interests, as Putin sees them. It saved the Assad regime from defeat, holding off the spectre of a regime change, and secured Russia an undeniable and influential role in the geopolitics of the Middle East. Considering Russia’s isolation in the aftermath of the conflict in Ukraine, Putin must consider it a fortuitous turn of events. It has also allowed Russia’s military officials and war planners to test a new generation of Russian weapons and military strategy. In Syria, Russia deployed drones widely, and launched air strikes with weapons guided by the country’s GLONASS navigation system. “The use of private military companies is part of this process of trial and error,” Ruslan Pukhov, a leading defense analyst and the director of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, said. The appearance of groups like Wagner on the battlefield in Syria represents a “complete innovation” in Russian military practice, he told me.

As with much in the defense sphere, Russian officials are convinced they are playing catchup with the West, particularly with the United States. The Kremlin began to consider the notion of private military companies in the years after the U.S. war in Iraq, where companies such as Blackwater and Triple Canopy took on outsized roles. But whereas in U.S. operations private military contractors tend to perform support and logistics functions—escorting supply convoys, guarding bases and top officials—the opposite seems true of Wagner forces in Syria. Many Wagner units carry out dangerous assault missions, and while official Russian special forces work alone, or in concert with Russian air power, Wagner mercenaries are given the task of embedding and coördinating with Syrian militia groups.

One source with close ties among private Russian military companies told me that the Russian defense ministry provides Wagner with everything from munitions to food, and even transport aircraft, to move its fighters in and out of Syria. “In theory, all its operations and tactics should be agreed to by the military command,” the source explained. “But there’s always the human factor,” the source added, guessing at how things might have gone so wrong in Deir Ezzor. It’s possible that someone on the ground came to an agreement with local Syrian paramilitaries and didn’t bother to inform Russian military headquarters, or misled it about the nature of the mission. Or the Russian Army gives winking approval to Wagner’s more commercially inclined operations while formally claiming no knowledge of them. Last year, the Associated Press obtained a contract between a Wagner-linked company and Syria’s state-owned petroleum corporation, which promised a twenty-five-per-cent cut of the profits from oil and gas production at fields captured from militant control.

Complicating all of this is the fact that, at least technically, private military companies are illegal in Russia, and previous attempts in parliament to draft the necessary legislation to formalize their status have gone nowhere. “We’re at crossroads,” Ivan Konovalov, a defense analyst and the author of a Russian-language book on private military companies, said. “Either we’ll see the winding down of the operations of such companies or the passing of legislation to regulate their activity.” One deputy in parliament this week called for exactly that. Konovalov hopes a law will soon appear. “Without it, there’s no mechanism to deal with such situations, no one knows what to do,” he told me.

So far, Russia’s campaign in Syria has given Putin a seemingly cost-free propaganda boost, but, with the Russian losses at Deir Ezzor coming a month before Putin is up for reëlection, things may get trickier to manage. State-news broadcasts have been able to air stirring and choreographed reports of Russian military prowess without the ugliness and confusion of a prolonged ground war. The officially recognized number of Russian military personnel killed in Syria is small—forty-six people—and the deaths the state has publicly acknowledged have tended to come with heroic narratives, such as that of the Russian fighter pilot who blew himself up with a hand grenade as ISIS fighters encircled him when his plane was brought down over Syria, earlier this month. Up until now more unpleasant stories, like the capture of two Wagner fighters by ISIS last November, have been infrequent and small-scale enough for the state to successfully ignore. A poll last fall by the independent Levada Center showed that half of those surveyed thought Russia should send its military operations to Syria.

The Kremlin fears, perhaps rightly, that it cannot sell a costly military engagement to the Russian people—it wants geopolitical leverage abroad and a patriotic boost at home without any echoes of the doomed Soviet war in Afghanistan or more recent campaigns in Chechnya. At the same time, despite years of caustic rhetoric, Putin and those around him have little appetite for an actual, full-throttle conflict with the United States: Russian officials are comfortable in the pose of ersatz, made-for-television showdowns with the U.S., not the real thing. That is all the more true in the age of the Trump Presidency, when Putin still hopes relations with the United States can be made more productive, or at least not head down the road to a third World War.

In Moscow, one gets the sense that the Kremlin would like the whole story of Deir Ezzor just to disappear. Putin has yet to address the incident publicly, and it has received little attention on state television. Dmitry Peskov, Putin’s spokesperson, claimed that the Kremlin had no information about private Russian mercenaries in Syria. “Let’s be clear: there are a good many of our compatriots in many countries around the world,” he said. Later, when pushed on whether Putin would announce a national period of mourning, Peskov acted flummoxed. “I don’t get why a mourning period needs to be declared,” he said. Meanwhile, the Trump Administration and the U.S. military also seem to have little appetite for chest-thumping, or making the clash into a bigger deal than it already is. Defense Secretary James Mattis has tried to downplay the fact—potentially quite incendiary—that U.S. forces struck Russian fighters, telling reporters he didn’t know whom the U.S. air strikes had hit: “Right now I don't want to say what they were or were not, because I don’t have that kind of information.”

Does that mean the deaths of dozens of Russian fighters as a result of a direct U.S. military attack will quietly fade away, however improbable that may seem? Earlier this week, a person close to private Russian military companies told me that those involved in the ill-fated battle in Deir Ezzor talk of a simmering feeling of betrayal—even if it’s hard to know who is responsible for it. “Some of them say they were betrayed by local Syrian militias who proposed this mission; others think they were betrayed by the Kurds, who asked the Americans to hammer them,” the source said, before moving farther down the list. “As they see it, the Americans can’t really have betrayed them because they are already enemies, anyway. Nor do they blame the Russian defense ministry: these guys know they got into something they shouldn’t have. And, as for the Russian government itself, well, none of them expect much of anything from the state, anyway.”

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...tback-in-syria
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سيف الله
02-24-2018, 01:50 PM
Salaam

This is an interesting debate.

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سيف الله
02-24-2018, 10:07 PM
Salaam

Another update, they seem to be have doing this for some time, what are they up to?

To Push Iran Back, Israel Ramps Up Support for Syrian Rebels, 'Arming 7 Different Groups'

With the Assad regime's advances the civil war and America's reduced involvement in the region, Israel has been forced to make significant changes in its policies in the Golan Heights

The recent tensions along the Israeli-Syrian border have been mainly aerial. But due to developments in the Syrian civil war, real changes are also taking place on the ground in the Golan Heights.

The Assad regime, which has gained the upper hand in the war, is now focusing on aggressively attacking rebel enclaves east of Damascus and in the northern Idlib province. But it is also gradually bolstering its presence in southern Syria, including in the Syrian Golan Heights. And accordingly, Israel is altering its deployment to prepare for what’s to come.

The de-escalation agreement for southern Syria, which the United States, Russia and Jordan signed last November, included a promise to keep Iran and its affiliated Shi’ite militias away from the Israeli border. Israel wanted the Iranians and their agents to be kept almost 60 kilometers from the frontier, east of the Damascus-Daraa road. But it didn’t get its wish; the agreement committed to keep them only 5 kilometers from the front lines between the regime and the rebels.

What this means in practice is that the Iranians are allowed to come to within 20 kilometers of Israel’s border in the central Syrian Golan and within just 5 kilometers in the northern Syrian Golan, which is controlled by Assad’s army. But it’s safe to assume that Hezbollah operatives and even members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards sometimes come right up to the border. The Assad regime has posts overlooking the Israeli border near Quneitra in the northern Golan, and it’s possible that senior Hezbollah operatives and Iranian representatives visit these posts, which are quite close to Israeli territory.

That isn’t the only important development in recent months. About a month ago, the regime retook the enclave of Beit Jin in the northern Golan from Sunni rebels; it’s located less than 15 kilometers from the Israeli border. Israel Defense Forces officers believe that sooner or later, Assad will make an effort to regain control of the rest of the Syrian Golan, in part because of the symbolic importance of sovereignty over the border with Israel. Members of the security cabinet, who toured the Golan with senior IDF officers almost two weeks ago, think the same.

Analyst Elizabeth Tsurkov, who has followed events in Syria closely for the last several years and has interviewed many rebel militiamen and residents of the Syrian Golan, published a detailed survey of developments in southern Syria in the War on the Rocks blog last week. Tsurkov said the scope of Israel’s involvement in southern Syria has changed in recent months in response to the regime’s successes in the civil war and Iran’s consolidation in Syria. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warns about the latter on every possible occasion and has repeatedly said Israel will work to thwart it.

According to foreign media reports, over the past few months Israel has begun carrying out airstrikes against Syrian army facilities and targets linked to Iran and its Shi’ite militias, in addition to its longstanding targeting of convoys carrying arms to Hezbollah. Tsurkov also reported on other developments taking place.

Dozens of rebels who spoke with Tsurkov described a significant change in the amount of aid they receive from Israel. Moreover, she said at least seven Sunni rebel organizations in the Syrian Golan are now getting arms and ammunition from Israel, along with money to buy additional armaments. This change has taken place at a time when America has greatly reduced its involvement in southern Syria. In January, the Trump administration closed the operations center the CIA ran in Amman, the Jordanian capital, which coordinated aid to rebel organizations in southern Syria. As a result, tens of thousands of rebels who received regular economic support from the U.S. have been bereft of this support.

At the same time, Israel has also increased its civilian aid to villages controlled by the rebels, including supplying medicine, food and clothing. Last summer, Israel admitted for the first time that it provides civilian aid to villages in the Syrian Golan, but declined to confirm claims that it also provides military aid. Tsurkov said these Israeli moves are intended to help block the Assad regime’s advance in the Golan and its conquest of rebel-held villages near the Israeli border. Nevertheless, she wrote, there’s an expectations gap between the two sides. The rebels expect unlimited Israeli support, and some are even hoping for help in their efforts to topple the regime. Israel’s plans are much more modest, and are intended as a holding action.

Relatively moderate Sunni rebels, whom the Israeli defense establishment terms “the locals,” control most of the Syrian-Israeli border, aside from two areas – a regime-controlled area in the northern Golan and a section of the southern Golan controlled by a branch of the Islamic State, Jaysh Khalid ibn al-Walid. According to Tsurkov, Israel is also helping the rebels in their war against the Islamic State.

There have been skirmishes between ISIS and other rebel organizations over the last several years, but these battles have produced no significant change in the forces’ deployment. However, rebels told Tsurkov that Israel has recently begun helping them by launching drone strikes and antitank missiles at Islamic State positions during these battles.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/with-eye-on-iran-israel-increases-military-support-for-syrian-rebels-1.5826348
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سيف الله
02-24-2018, 11:34 PM
Salaam

Another update. The situation in Ghouta.

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سيف الله
02-27-2018, 10:13 PM
Salaam

Another update

Negotiations continue between rebels and the Syrian Army, but the bombardment of Ghouta won't stop any time soon

Exclusive: Ghouta will fall. That is the message. And when it falls, Idlib must surely be next. And then the Syrians must decide how to break the US-Kurdish hold on Raqqa


Syria continues to mass its armed forces around the east Ghouta enclave of Damascus, including army units commanded by President Bashar al-Assad’s brother Maher and by Colonel Soheil Hassan, the “Tiger” whose military victories across the country have made him legendary among Assad’s supporters.

Instead of moving by night - the traditional tactic adopted by the army in the war - vast quantities of Syrian armour have been humming along the highways to the capital in broad daylight from Aleppo and Homs in the north, from Deraa in the south, and from the countryside of Damascus itself. The Syrian authorities want them to be seen, to show the Islamist rebels of Ghouta know how their battle will end.

Despite Russia’s veto at the UN on Thursday night, however, negotiations have continued between three rebel groups and the Syrian army - under the direct mediation of the Russians - to establish “humanitarian corridors” and “escape routes” for the tens of thousands of civilians trapped inside Ghouta, the vast area of suburban slums and farmland held by Islamist and other rebel groups since 2013. Almost identical talks took place between Islamists and the government over eastern Aleppo before its fall in December 2016. Bloodshed and negotiations have long been a feature of the Syrian war.

But despite all the West’s rhetoric - and the UN’s constant refrain that the civilians of eastern Ghouta are experiencing “hell on earth” - the massive Syrian and Russian bombardment is going to continue. The Islamist Nusrah faction, the “child” of al-Qaeda of 9/11 infamy, appears to be more reluctant to surrender to the Syrians - even if allowed to leave with its light weapons - than Saudi Arabia’s favourite militia, the Jaish al-Islam, or Qatar’s proxy “Rahman Legion”. There are even suggestions that the Saudi and Qatari supported factions are arguing with each other - even now, inside Ghouta - about the Gulf dispute between the Saudis and Qataris.

There appears to be no such disunity among their enemies. The Presidential Guard is on the edge of Ghouta, and the Syrians have brought their 14th Division (Special Forces) to the suburbs. Maher Assad’s 4th Armoured Division, based in Damascus, is positioned on the perimeter, as is the military’s 7th Division, and troops belonging to units commanded by Colonel “Tiger” Soheil Hassan.

Given the multitude of army regiments around Ghouta, Hassan cannot be the overall commander, a post which remains diplomatically undefined. But the convoys of tanks, armoured vehicles, field guns and trucks pouring in daylight towards Damascus – and enthusiastically captured on film by government photographers – is meant to be seen.

Ghouta will fall. That is the message. From within the Syrian military, there are attempts to explain the ruthlessness of the assault. Thousands of soldiers have been killed in the battles around Ghouta since 2013; vast military “resources” – the word the army uses – have been poured into this battle over the years. Most of the car bomb attacks in Damascus and the constant shelling across the centre of the capital for the past four years have come from Islamist forces in Ghouta, especially from the Douma district. Of course, there are the usual explanations from artillery officers: of “surgical” strikes, of rebels hiding in hospitals and using civilians as “human shields”; but these are words the world has heard before – from the Americans about Mosul and Afghanistan, from the Israelis about Gaza, and the Russians about Chechnya.

And pictures, as usual, speak louder than words. While the footage from eastern Ghouta pointedly fails to show the armed Islamists who are fighting in the enclave, there is no reason to doubt the suffering of the civilians. And some of these civilians, it should be remembered, will inevitably be relatives of the very Syrian soldiers who are planning to storm Ghouta; there were many Syrian military personnel who captured eastern Aleppo in 2016 whose own families also lived there.

But Ghouta is experiencing a different sort of siege, one that has no precedent in size during this war. “Shock and awe” – or shock and terror – is what Syria’s enemies are supposed to experience. The Russian and Syrian air attacks are proof of that. Even if maps look simple on television screens, wars are infinitely more chaotic. Think of the effect of a brick hitting the windscreen of a car, of the dozens of fractures across the glass; that is what Syrian military maps look like.

It is now being said that if the first Syrian advance into Ghouta moves against areas controlled by al-Nusrah, it means that the al-Qaeda fighters are being more stubborn in the negotiations than the other two major groups. They will suffer first, along with the civilians of course. This is the inevitable lesson of this terrifying war. The Syrians, along with Iraqi militias and Hezbollah, do indeed have plans for the overrunning of rebel-held Ghouta. And after this demonstration of firepower, how could the Syrians and Russians stop now? If they did, who would believe the message of the next siege? In northwestern Idlib, for example. Or in the towns around it.

And so, when Ghouta falls, Idlib must surely be next. And then the Syrians must decide how to break the US-Kurdish hold on Raqqa – perhaps that is one reason why pro-Syrian forces have now gone to the rescue of the Kurds in the northern province of Afrin, to drive a further wedge between the Turks and the Americans, and force Washington to abandon its Kurdish allies on the Euphrates.

It is painful to remember how these huge landscapes of river and desert and mountainside lived in peace for a century – their societies straitjacketed, of course, and without justice – before the bloodbath. Ghouta receives the waters of five rivers, and the 1912 French edition of Baedeker’s travel handbook to “Syria and Palestine” describes how the tributaries flowing into the sands to the east conferred upon Ghouta the name of “Lakes of the Prairies”. But that was the old Syria.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-civil-war-eastern-ghouta-assad-regime-rebels-talks-artillery-air-strikes-a8224701.html
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سيف الله
02-27-2018, 11:01 PM
Salaam

Another update

Idlib Rebel Civil War – 26/2/18

In a sudden and overwhelming push, Harakat Nour al-Din al-Zinki and Free Syrian Army forces captured eight villages south of Afrin, pushing Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham out of the region entirely (except for the heavily-occupied Anadan plain). The captured villages include Atmeh, Qah, Salwa, Deir Simeon, Darat Izza, Kafr Tin, Busratun, and Tuqad. The unexpectedness and sheer size of this advance, along with the sudden capture of the major town Darat Izza, indicates that Turkey was involved, likely by providing military direction and logistical support.

Turkey has good reason to back this move. Because of this latest advance, the Turkish Armed Forces can now lay claim to an extensive base of support inside Syria west of Aleppo. No longer while Turkey be forced to smuggle weapons to rebel groups far away through narrow corridors in order to expand its influence and defeat HTS. From this pocket, Turkey can now coordinate and stage attacks against YPG in Afrin in the rear, while simultaneously clearing HTS from more areas in Aleppo.

https://syrianwardaily.wordpress.com/2018/02/27/idlib-rebel-civil-war-26-2-18/

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JustTime
03-01-2018, 03:24 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

Another update

Idlib Rebel Civil War – 26/2/18

In a sudden and overwhelming push, Harakat Nour al-Din al-Zinki and Free Syrian Army forces captured eight villages south of Afrin, pushing Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham out of the region entirely (except for the heavily-occupied Anadan plain). The captured villages include Atmeh, Qah, Salwa, Deir Simeon, Darat Izza, Kafr Tin, Busratun, and Tuqad. The unexpectedness and sheer size of this advance, along with the sudden capture of the major town Darat Izza, indicates that Turkey was involved, likely by providing military direction and logistical support.

Turkey has good reason to back this move. Because of this latest advance, the Turkish Armed Forces can now lay claim to an extensive base of support inside Syria west of Aleppo. No longer while Turkey be forced to smuggle weapons to rebel groups far away through narrow corridors in order to expand its influence and defeat HTS. From this pocket, Turkey can now coordinate and stage attacks against YPG in Afrin in the rear, while simultaneously clearing HTS from more areas in Aleppo.

https://syrianwardaily.wordpress.com...l-war-26-2-18/

This is nothing more than a wakeup call for HTS their cooperation with the pawns of Turkey like Ahrar and others was a ticking time bomb from the beginning

May Allah (AWJ) unite those who are sincere and righteous
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JustTime
03-01-2018, 04:01 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

Another update

Negotiations continue between rebels and the Syrian Army, but the bombardment of Ghouta won't stop any time soon

Exclusive: Ghouta will fall. That is the message. And when it falls, Idlib must surely be next. And then the Syrians must decide how to break the US-Kurdish hold on Raqqa


Syria continues to mass its armed forces around the east Ghouta enclave of Damascus, including army units commanded by President Bashar al-Assad’s brother Maher and by Colonel Soheil Hassan, the “Tiger” whose military victories across the country have made him legendary among Assad’s supporters.

Instead of moving by night - the traditional tactic adopted by the army in the war - vast quantities of Syrian armour have been humming along the highways to the capital in broad daylight from Aleppo and Homs in the north, from Deraa in the south, and from the countryside of Damascus itself. The Syrian authorities want them to be seen, to show the Islamist rebels of Ghouta know how their battle will end.

Despite Russia’s veto at the UN on Thursday night, however, negotiations have continued between three rebel groups and the Syrian army - under the direct mediation of the Russians - to establish “humanitarian corridors” and “escape routes” for the tens of thousands of civilians trapped inside Ghouta, the vast area of suburban slums and farmland held by Islamist and other rebel groups since 2013. Almost identical talks took place between Islamists and the government over eastern Aleppo before its fall in December 2016. Bloodshed and negotiations have long been a feature of the Syrian war.

But despite all the West’s rhetoric - and the UN’s constant refrain that the civilians of eastern Ghouta are experiencing “hell on earth” - the massive Syrian and Russian bombardment is going to continue. The Islamist Nusrah faction, the “child” of al-Qaeda of 9/11 infamy, appears to be more reluctant to surrender to the Syrians - even if allowed to leave with its light weapons - than Saudi Arabia’s favourite militia, the Jaish al-Islam, or Qatar’s proxy “Rahman Legion”. There are even suggestions that the Saudi and Qatari supported factions are arguing with each other - even now, inside Ghouta - about the Gulf dispute between the Saudis and Qataris.

There appears to be no such disunity among their enemies. The Presidential Guard is on the edge of Ghouta, and the Syrians have brought their 14th Division (Special Forces) to the suburbs. Maher Assad’s 4th Armoured Division, based in Damascus, is positioned on the perimeter, as is the military’s 7th Division, and troops belonging to units commanded by Colonel “Tiger” Soheil Hassan.

Given the multitude of army regiments around Ghouta, Hassan cannot be the overall commander, a post which remains diplomatically undefined. But the convoys of tanks, armoured vehicles, field guns and trucks pouring in daylight towards Damascus – and enthusiastically captured on film by government photographers – is meant to be seen.

Ghouta will fall. That is the message. From within the Syrian military, there are attempts to explain the ruthlessness of the assault. Thousands of soldiers have been killed in the battles around Ghouta since 2013; vast military “resources” – the word the army uses – have been poured into this battle over the years. Most of the car bomb attacks in Damascus and the constant shelling across the centre of the capital for the past four years have come from Islamist forces in Ghouta, especially from the Douma district. Of course, there are the usual explanations from artillery officers: of “surgical” strikes, of rebels hiding in hospitals and using civilians as “human shields”; but these are words the world has heard before – from the Americans about Mosul and Afghanistan, from the Israelis about Gaza, and the Russians about Chechnya.

And pictures, as usual, speak louder than words. While the footage from eastern Ghouta pointedly fails to show the armed Islamists who are fighting in the enclave, there is no reason to doubt the suffering of the civilians. And some of these civilians, it should be remembered, will inevitably be relatives of the very Syrian soldiers who are planning to storm Ghouta; there were many Syrian military personnel who captured eastern Aleppo in 2016 whose own families also lived there.

But Ghouta is experiencing a different sort of siege, one that has no precedent in size during this war. “Shock and awe” – or shock and terror – is what Syria’s enemies are supposed to experience. The Russian and Syrian air attacks are proof of that. Even if maps look simple on television screens, wars are infinitely more chaotic. Think of the effect of a brick hitting the windscreen of a car, of the dozens of fractures across the glass; that is what Syrian military maps look like.

It is now being said that if the first Syrian advance into Ghouta moves against areas controlled by al-Nusrah, it means that the al-Qaeda fighters are being more stubborn in the negotiations than the other two major groups. They will suffer first, along with the civilians of course. This is the inevitable lesson of this terrifying war. The Syrians, along with Iraqi militias and Hezbollah, do indeed have plans for the overrunning of rebel-held Ghouta. And after this demonstration of firepower, how could the Syrians and Russians stop now? If they did, who would believe the message of the next siege? In northwestern Idlib, for example. Or in the towns around it.

And so, when Ghouta falls, Idlib must surely be next. And then the Syrians must decide how to break the US-Kurdish hold on Raqqa – perhaps that is one reason why pro-Syrian forces have now gone to the rescue of the Kurds in the northern province of Afrin, to drive a further wedge between the Turks and the Americans, and force Washington to abandon its Kurdish allies on the Euphrates.

It is painful to remember how these huge landscapes of river and desert and mountainside lived in peace for a century – their societies straitjacketed, of course, and without justice – before the bloodbath. Ghouta receives the waters of five rivers, and the 1912 French edition of Baedeker’s travel handbook to “Syria and Palestine” describes how the tributaries flowing into the sands to the east conferred upon Ghouta the name of “Lakes of the Prairies”. But that was the old Syria.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a8224701.html
What's pathetic is those in the UN like France, Germany, and others they don't care about Ghouta they don't care about the siege in fact they love this and notice how around this same time the situation in Idlib and the operation in Afrin. These are carefully calculated political moves to not only allow Assad to be victorious but to also partition Syria between a Shia South and West run by Hezbollah, Iran, and Alawites to please Russia whilst the North and East are given to the despicable Atheist Communist Kurds to please their backers in Europe.

The goal is remove every faction in the region conflicting with the interests of foreign interventionalists as well as securing precious resources like petroleum and they have succeeded. They know how to play the game they played it well in Syria especially Russia the Mongol horde of today in collaboration with their Safawi puppet and their devil proxies of hellfire like HezbulShaytan. These powers of the modern world know when to play humanitarian and when to play the role liberator.

Where was the "Emergency Appeal" for Mosul and the people of Iraq? Where was the United Nations and their pathetic "Security" council for Iraq? I'll tell you they ordered the destruction of Iraq and they planned step by the step the victory for the Rafidha death squads.

When the situation in Ghouta is "resolved" by the "Peace Makers" Allah warned us of in Surah Al-Baqarah and the groups there surrender like Jaysh al-"Islam" and the criminals in the Nour ad-Din group surrender and Assad seizes more land and the Rafidhas being besieged right now get to live in peace while the Sunnis being besieged just get assigned a different death date don't ask why this happened, because it is simple the deviant Turks lead by Erdogan and his deviant proxies they are nothing but arrogant warlords too blind to care about Islam and its people, if they knew any better they would know Victory is From Allah.

Victory is from Allah in patience and steadfastness not the United Nations of failure.
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JustTime
03-01-2018, 05:04 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

Another debate. Peter Lavelle is a little overenthusiastic in this debate, but worth a listen.

Why are you posting videos from RussiasTrash? Why is it you post so much Safawi/Russian propaganda
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JustTime
03-04-2018, 04:03 AM
In case any of you are unaware because of the despicable situation in Ghouta at the hands of the Rawafids there is another tyrant in Syria an army of them. They have united together with their heaviest weapons, thousands of men, and plenty of tanks and vehicles they have united together against a group that has defended them and brought them conquest. This group doesn't want Islam they don't want anything except what their financiers tell them they want. This coalition calls its armies "Free" and names their battalions after Islamic heroes who would undoubtedly reject them.

This coalition talks about the suffering in Ghouta while inflicting their own crimes and offenses they have been dividing Muslims, lying to them, and even murdering them indeed they are Tawagheet and Murtadeen, they have done everything they can to satisfy their greedy wishes at the expense of Muslims they used them when they needed them and tossed them to the side thereafter.

This coalition easily unites against those who want nothing but the best for them but regarding those who want the worst for them they are divided and fail Allah and Islam they adhere to the cursed practice of Hizbiyah and Asabiyah these people are cursed in the face of Allah.

They too are tyrants like Bashar they are criminal warlords and far more dangerous Wallahi they will call you their brother then in an instant in a moment's notice they will betray you, label you and kill you.

Make Dua for the sincere and ask Allah to curse those who stand against them.
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سيف الله
03-05-2018, 09:39 PM
Salaam

format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime
Why are you posting videos from RussiasTrash? Why is it you post so much Safawi/Russian propaganda
Brother I appreciate your viewpoint but the world doesn't revolve around our various viewpoints. I'm not naive about RT but we need to get all perspectives.

Another update, I can believe this.

The US is protecting ISIS to weaken rivals, expand US occupation of Syria

The dominant view of the US-led coalition against the Islamic State (ISIS), Operation Inherent Resolve, is that its fundamental goal is the defeat of ISIS. And so, in the wake of the routing of ISIS from Iraq and Syria, the core justification for an ongoing US military presence in Syria is ensuring that no post-mortem ISIS insurgency arises.

That the US is unequivocally opposed to ISIS is simply taken for granted.

Yet a closer look at the history of US involvement shows that counterterrorism has been a lesser concern relative to geopolitical and strategic goals. Whenever the goals of expanding territorial control or weakening rivals conflicts with the goal of opposing ISIS, the entity was either ignored or even empowered in pursuit of these more paramount concerns. In some ways, by providing a pretext for extended military operations on foreign soil, and by helping to diminish the military might of the Syrian regime and its allies, some coalition officials have seen the Islamic State as a potentially beneficial phenomenon to the wider ends of weakening the Syrian state and opposing Iranian influence in the Levant.

Leveraging the Caliphate

In 2015, ISIS executed an unprecedented advance in Syria.

Audio leaks would later surface of then Secretary of State John Kerry explaining that the Obama administration saw this expansion as beneficial to the US position. Seeing that this could be used to pressure Assad, the threat of state-collapse was something to be “watched” and “managed,” rather than deterred. “We were watching,” Kerry said:

“… and we know that this was growing… We saw that Daesh was growing in strength, and we thought Assad was threatened. We thought, however, we could probably manage — that Assad would then negotiate.”

Yet this was not simply a case of exploiting events that were entirely out of control. At this time, Obama’s regional allies had been conducting major influxes of support to jihadist factions among the rebels, including ISIS, for years in their bid to oust Assad. US intelligence oversaw and was well aware of these policies. As Kerry’s observations suggest, the motive was that with “Daesh growing in strength”, the US military would be able to “manage” this development while the expansion of ISIS would mean that “Assad would then negotiate.”

This all changed when Russia, in response to the expanding ISIS movement, intervened. With Russia in the game, regime-change looked like an increasingly dwindling prospect.

Awkwardly, Russia was “carrying out more sorties in a day in Syria than the US-led coalition has done in a month,” while also targeting ISIS oil tankers, something the US-led coalition was reluctant to do — to the point that large convoys of oil trucks carrying ISIS oil were able to operate efficiently and in broad daylight.

The embarrassing contradictions of the “anti-ISIS” campaign were becoming difficult to explain away. Instead of being “degraded” or “destroyed”, ISIS was actually expanding during the bulk of the anti-ISIS campaign.

Durham University’s Dr. Christopher Davidson, one of the world’s leading scholars in Middle East affairs, has explained that:

“… the Islamic State was effectively on the same side as the West, especially in Syria, and in all its other warzones was certainly in the same camp as the West’s regional allies.”

Moreover, “on a strategic level, its big gains had made it by far the best battlefield asset to those who sought the permanent dismemberment of Syria and the removal of [the Iran-leaning] Nouri Maliki in Iraq.”

Therefore, the trick for the West was “trying to find the right balance between being seen to take action but yet still allowing the Islamic State to prosper.” Citing a prophetic 2008 RAND Corporation report, Davidson explains that the “illusory campaign that would eventually need to be waged against the Islamic State” would therefore mainly consist of “the establishment of certain red lines” along a “contain and react approach.” This would “involve deploying perimeters around areas where there are concentrations of transnational jihadists,” while making sure to limit any action to only “periodically launching air/missile strikes against high-value targets.”

In other words, Russia’s intervention essentially called Washington’s bluff. Seeing this, and also seeing Syria increasingly in a position to reclaim those territories that ISIS had been so effective at denying them, it appeared that it was time to start getting serious about putting an end to the Caliphate.

https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/the-us-is-protecting-isis-to-weaken-rivals-expand-us-occupation-of-syria-f7b3e7d01d0d
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JustTime
03-07-2018, 04:59 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam



Brother I appreciate your viewpoint but the world doesn't revolve around our various viewpoints. I'm not naive about RT but we need to get all perspectives.

Another update, I can believe this.

The US is protecting ISIS to weaken rivals, expand US occupation of Syria

The dominant view of the US-led coalition against the Islamic State (ISIS), Operation Inherent Resolve, is that its fundamental goal is the defeat of ISIS. And so, in the wake of the routing of ISIS from Iraq and Syria, the core justification for an ongoing US military presence in Syria is ensuring that no post-mortem ISIS insurgency arises.

That the US is unequivocally opposed to ISIS is simply taken for granted.

Yet a closer look at the history of US involvement shows that counterterrorism has been a lesser concern relative to geopolitical and strategic goals. Whenever the goals of expanding territorial control or weakening rivals conflicts with the goal of opposing ISIS, the entity was either ignored or even empowered in pursuit of these more paramount concerns. In some ways, by providing a pretext for extended military operations on foreign soil, and by helping to diminish the military might of the Syrian regime and its allies, some coalition officials have seen the Islamic State as a potentially beneficial phenomenon to the wider ends of weakening the Syrian state and opposing Iranian influence in the Levant.

Leveraging the Caliphate

In 2015, ISIS executed an unprecedented advance in Syria.

Audio leaks would later surface of then Secretary of State John Kerry explaining that the Obama administration saw this expansion as beneficial to the US position. Seeing that this could be used to pressure Assad, the threat of state-collapse was something to be “watched” and “managed,” rather than deterred. “We were watching,” Kerry said:

“… and we know that this was growing… We saw that Daesh was growing in strength, and we thought Assad was threatened. We thought, however, we could probably manage — that Assad would then negotiate.”

Yet this was not simply a case of exploiting events that were entirely out of control. At this time, Obama’s regional allies had been conducting major influxes of support to jihadist factions among the rebels, including ISIS, for years in their bid to oust Assad. US intelligence oversaw and was well aware of these policies. As Kerry’s observations suggest, the motive was that with “Daesh growing in strength”, the US military would be able to “manage” this development while the expansion of ISIS would mean that “Assad would then negotiate.”

This all changed when Russia, in response to the expanding ISIS movement, intervened. With Russia in the game, regime-change looked like an increasingly dwindling prospect.

Awkwardly, Russia was “carrying out more sorties in a day in Syria than the US-led coalition has done in a month,” while also targeting ISIS oil tankers, something the US-led coalition was reluctant to do — to the point that large convoys of oil trucks carrying ISIS oil were able to operate efficiently and in broad daylight.

The embarrassing contradictions of the “anti-ISIS” campaign were becoming difficult to explain away. Instead of being “degraded” or “destroyed”, ISIS was actually expanding during the bulk of the anti-ISIS campaign.

Durham University’s Dr. Christopher Davidson, one of the world’s leading scholars in Middle East affairs, has explained that:

“… the Islamic State was effectively on the same side as the West, especially in Syria, and in all its other warzones was certainly in the same camp as the West’s regional allies.”

Moreover, “on a strategic level, its big gains had made it by far the best battlefield asset to those who sought the permanent dismemberment of Syria and the removal of [the Iran-leaning] Nouri Maliki in Iraq.”

Therefore, the trick for the West was “trying to find the right balance between being seen to take action but yet still allowing the Islamic State to prosper.” Citing a prophetic 2008 RAND Corporation report, Davidson explains that the “illusory campaign that would eventually need to be waged against the Islamic State” would therefore mainly consist of “the establishment of certain red lines” along a “contain and react approach.” This would “involve deploying perimeters around areas where there are concentrations of transnational jihadists,” while making sure to limit any action to only “periodically launching air/missile strikes against high-value targets.”

In other words, Russia’s intervention essentially called Washington’s bluff. Seeing this, and also seeing Syria increasingly in a position to reclaim those territories that ISIS had been so effective at denying them, it appeared that it was time to start getting serious about putting an end to the Caliphate.

https://medium.com/insurge-intellige...a-f7b3e7d01d0d
"Other Perspectives" are all fine except when they actually are other perspectives and not reiterations of the same propaganda just with different logos.
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سيف الله
03-07-2018, 07:50 PM
Salaam

Another update, Views on rebel infighting.



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سيف الله
03-12-2018, 02:35 PM
Salaam

Another update

Syria: US-backed Kurds brace for dramatic escalation of Turkish invasion that could be bloodier than Aleppo, Raqqa or Eastern Ghouta

The wars in Syria: Kurdish fighters are streaming in their thousands from the front line with Isis to stand up to Erdogan's forces. But given their six years' battle experience against a fanatical enemy, Turkey is unlikely to beat the YPG on the ground

In a field beside an abandoned railway station close to the Turkish border in northern Syria, Kurdish fighters are retraining to withstand Turkish air strikes. “We acted like a regular army when we were fighting Daesh [Isis] with US air support,” says Rojvan, a veteran Kurdish commander of the People’s Protection Units (YPG). “But now it is us who may be under Turkish air attack and we will have to behave more like guerrillas.”

Rojvan and his brigade have just returned from 45 days fighting Isis in Deir Ezzor province in eastern Syria and are waiting orders which may redeploy them to face the Turkish army that invaded the Kurdish enclave of Afrin on 20 January. Rojvan says that “we are mainly armed with light weapons like the Kalashnikov, RPG [rocket propelled grenade launcher] and light machine guns, but we will be resisting tanks and aircraft”. He makes clear that, whatever happened, they would fight to the end.

Kurdish and allied Arab units are streaming north from the front to the east of the Euphrates, where Isis is beginning to counter-attack, in order to stop the Turkish advance. Some 1,700 Arab militia left the area for Afrin on Tuesday and Turkey is demanding that the US stop them. The invasion is now in its seventh week and Rojvan and his fighters take some comfort in the fact that it is moving so slowly. But the Turkish strategy has been to take rural areas before mowing methodically to surround and besiege Afrin City and residential areas.

The big battles in Afrin are still to come and are likely to be as destructive and bloody as anything seen in Eastern Ghouta, Raqqa or East Aleppo. YPG fighters have battle experience stretching back to at least 2012, much of its gained against fanatical opponents like Isis. The likelihood is that, as in Ghouta, the Turkish generals will seek to avoid the heavy losses inevitable in street fighting and pound Afrin into ruins with air strikes and artillery fire. Civilian casualties are bound to be horrendous.

The Syrian Kurds believe they are facing an existential threat. They believe Turkey wants to eliminate not just the enclave of Afrin, but the 25 per cent of Syria that the Kurds have taken with US backing since 2015. Some think that defeat will mean the ethnic cleansing of Kurds from Afrin, which has traditionally been one of their core majority areas. They cite a speech by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan made the day after the start of the invasion started, claiming that “55 per cent of Afrin is Arab, 35 per cent are the Kurds ... and about 7 per cent are Turkmen. [We aim] to give Afrin back to its rightful owners.” There is a suspicion among Kurdish leaders that Erdogan plans to create a Sunni bloc of territory north and west of Aleppo which will be under direct or indirect Turkish control.

The Kurdish leaders are convinced that Erdogan is determined to destroy their de facto state in the long run, but differ about the timing and objectives of the present attack. Elham Ahmad, the co-president of the Syrian Democratic Council that helps administer the Kurdish-held area, believes that the Turkish assault on Afrin, if successful, will set “a precedent for a further Turkish military advance”.

Ahmad had just returned from Afrin where she was born and where her family still lives. “Our convoy of 150 civilian cars was hit by a Turkish air strike,” she said. “We ran away from the cars, but 30 of them were destroyed and one person killed.” She is angry that the outside world is exclusively preoccupied with the bombardment of Eastern Ghouta by President Bashar al-Assad’s forces, but ignores similar bombing and shelling in Afrin where, she says, 204 civilians had been killed, including 61 children, as of last weekend.

She expects that the next Turkish target, if its so-called Operation Olive Branch succeeds in Afrin, will be the Arab city of Manbij that was taken by the YPG in 2016. Strategically placed on the main road from Aleppo to the Kurdish heartlands, with a diversion where part of the highway is held by Turkish forces, it is a prosperous looking place full of shops crammed with goods and produce. Local rumour has it that one small shop recently changed hands for $1m (£720,000). It is the main supply line to the Kurdish zone, the highway crowded with oil tankers bringing crude oil from Kurdish-held oilfields far to the east to the Syrian government refinery at Homs.

If local people are nervous about the prospect of being submerged by the impending battle for northern Syria, they are not showing it. After being occupied by Isis and besieged by the YPG, they have strong nerves. They may also reflect that, if war is coming to their city and its 300,000 people, there is not a lot they can do to avert it. The main reason they might feel secure is a US pledge to defend their city against a Turkish attack, a promise backed up by regular and highly visible patrols of five or six US armoured vehicles carrying large Stars and Stripes. But the US willingness to confront its Nato partner Turkey is nuanced, particularly since Isis was defeated last year, though the movement is not entirely dead.

There is a sense of phoney war on the front line between the forces of the Manbij Military Council and the Turkish army and its allied anti-Assad militias, who are dug in three or four miles north of the city. Most of the front lines in the Syrian civil war are a depressing scene of abandoned and half-wrecked buildings, even when there is no fighting going on. The Manbij front is idyllic by comparison, though just how long it will stay that way is another question.

This is a fertile heavily populated country with a Mediterranean feel to it, its hills and small fields full of olive trees, pines, poplars and almond trees which are covered in little white flowers. There are tractors on the roads and, just behind the front, we drove through the Arab village of Dadat, whose streets full of cheerful-looking children excited by the sight of military vehicles.

A trench and rampart gauged out the hillside by bulldozers zigzags upwards through a green field to a fortified position on a hilltop. Peering through gun slits in a sandbagged post on top of an earth bank, one could see Turkish positions not far away on the far side of the Sajur river. “They have tanks and artillery on every hilltop and they fire randomly with heavy machine guns every night,” says Farhat Kobani, a local commander whose orders come from the Manbij Military Council. The Turkish army is backed up by Ahrar al-Sham, a militant Islamist movement long allied to Turkey, whose men act as auxiliaries.

These exchanges of fire do not seem very serious because everybody, at least in day time, is standing upright in easy range of the other side and Farhat says his men have not suffered any dead or wounded. Phoney war is often derided, but there is a lot to be said for it when compared to the real thing – and, unfortunately, that may not be too far away.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-latest-news-turkish-invasion-escalation-us-allied-forces-bloodier-eastern-ghouta-aleppo-raqqa-a8243981.html
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Yahya.
03-12-2018, 07:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime
In case any of you are unaware because of the despicable situation in Ghouta at the hands of the Rawafids there is another tyrant in Syria an army of them. They have united together with their heaviest weapons, thousands of men, and plenty of tanks and vehicles they have united together against a group that has defended them and brought them conquest. This group doesn't want Islam they don't want anything except what their financiers tell them they want. This coalition calls its armies "Free" and names their battalions after Islamic heroes who would undoubtedly reject them.

This coalition talks about the suffering in Ghouta while inflicting their own crimes and offenses they have been dividing Muslims, lying to them, and even murdering them indeed they are Tawagheet and Murtadeen, they have done everything they can to satisfy their greedy wishes at the expense of Muslims they used them when they needed them and tossed them to the side thereafter.

This coalition easily unites against those who want nothing but the best for them but regarding those who want the worst for them they are divided and fail Allah and Islam they adhere to the cursed practice of Hizbiyah and Asabiyah these people are cursed in the face of Allah.

They too are tyrants like Bashar they are criminal warlords and far more dangerous Wallahi they will call you their brother then in an instant in a moment's notice they will betray you, label you and kill you.

Make Dua for the sincere and ask Allah to curse those who stand against them.
Violence is not the solution when it comes to suppressing wrong ideas among Muslims. Even when the leaders of such groups you have described have unislamic ideas, their basic soldiers; those who will die in such a conflict, are Muslims, even if not appropriately educated. And to my view posts like this lead to an insular polarization between factions. In my opinion we should just leave it to the scholars on ground to discuss and speak about such critical matters. Allah knows best.
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JustTime
03-17-2018, 03:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Yahya.
Violence is not the solution when it comes to suppressing wrong ideas among Muslims. Even when the leaders of such groups you have described have unislamic ideas, their basic soldiers; those who will die in such a conflict, are Muslims, even if not appropriately educated. And to my view posts like this lead to an insular polarization between factions. In my opinion we should just leave it to the scholars on ground to discuss and speak about such critical matters. Allah knows best.
There needs to be polarization, I agree many are sincere and that's why I said pray for them but those who aren't and continue fighting out of zeal for corrupt ideals need to be removed. This is no different than the wars of Ridda many left Islam and fought for separate ideals some even continued calling themselves Muslim others made new Prophets like Musaylimah who taught a religion similar to Islam and even revered the Prophet (SAAWS) yet they were fought.

Likewise in Syria there are groups with leaders who intend on doing very evil things and if not stopped early it could become dangerous.
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سيف الله
03-17-2018, 07:04 PM
Salaam

Another update

Did UAE and Saudi Play Role in Assassination of Syrian Opposition Leaders?

According to information divulged by Abu Ali, who served in the Islamic Front for two years between 2014- 2016, the UAE played a role in the assassinations of Syrian opposition leaders, According to Yeni Safak Turkish Newspaper.

The UAE is said to be behind a wave of assassinations that targeted the most prominent anti-U.S. Syrian opposition leaders between 2014- 2015, which paved the way for Daesh and Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) terrorists to advance in opposition-held territories.

After obtaining information about the whereabouts of the opposition leaders via its intelligence services, the UAE then passed on these tips to the Assad regime which carried out attacks that killed Jaysh al-Islam commander Zahran Alloush, Ahrar Al-Sham leader Hassan Abboud and 45 high-ranking group members, according to Abu Ali, a member of the opposition group.

An attack that killed all leaders of Ahrar Al-Sham

Zahran Alloush, who was the leader of one of the biggest opposition groups in Syria, Jaysh al-Islam, was martyred on Dec. 25, 2015, following an airstrike on Eastern Ghouta.

Ahrar al-Sham leader Hasan Abboud was martyred along with 45 high-ranking members of the prominent opposition groups following a chemical attack that targeted a meeting in their Idlib headquarters on Sept. 9, 2014.

According to information divulged by Abu Ali, who served in the Islamic Front for two years between 2014- 2016, the UAE played a role in these assassinations, betraying Syria’s opposition with help from Saudi intelligence.

Saudi role

Abu Ali stressed that Saudi Arabia initially played a crucial role in supporting the opposition against the Assad regime through a Saudi intelligence colonel named Abul Kassim who assumed an influential position during that stage.

“Commander Alloush’s only communication device was a satellite phone that was given to him by the Saudis, who used it to track his movements before the attack that killed him was carried out,” said Abu Ali.

“Following investigations carried out after the attack, it was revealed that UAE first pinpointed his position and then UAE Foreign Minister Abdullah Zayed tipped Bashar Assad’s brother Maher Al-Assad about his whereabouts,” he continued.

“We also know that Muhammed Bin Zayed and his brother Abdullah played a role in the 2014 massacre of the Ahrar Al-Sham Emir Hassan Abboud and 45 of his friends,” concluded Abu Ali.

Israel knew of the attack


“Since 2015, we began to understand more clearly that some groups that were our allies during the war had a different goal.

“After 2015, we also saw that some of the information we shared with some of our allies had reached Israel. We learned that information shared with us about the location of Alloush, among other confidential topics, had also reached Israel.

“After the assassination, the cooperation between Israel, UAE, Russia and the Assad regime in the killing of Alloush became clear,” pointed out Abu Ali.

https://www.middleeastobserver.org/2...ition-leaders/

Salaam

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Anti-HTS offensive in northern Syria

Jabhat al-Nusra was part of the loose alliance of armed factions that took over Idlib city and the province in the spring of 2015. Its influence over the province steadily grew at the expense of other factions and despite frequent civilian protests against their oppressive presence and human rights violations.

In July 2016, Jabhat al-Nusra announced its split from al-Qaeda in Syria and changed its name to Fateh al-Sham. The move came three years after a large number of its fighters broke off from its ranks to join what came to be known as ISIL, which also rejected al-Qaeda's authority.

"That [move] back then was dismissed as a publicity stunt. If you look at the details, you realise that this was more than just a PR move," said Heiko Wimmen, a project director at the Brussels-based research organisation International Crisis Group. According to him, since the summer of 2016, the armed group has sought to reinvent itself as a nationalist armed group movement, giving less priority to international movement.

"This doesn't mean that they have become nicer people. It means [different] tactics, ideology and leadership," said Wimmen.

In mid-January 2017, what was still called Jabhat Fateh al-Sham attacked positions of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and a number of other smaller armed groups in Idlib province, entering a standoff with Ahrar al-Sham, one of the largest Islamist factions in the region, which was also included on Moscow's "moderate opposition" list.

As a result of the tensions, smaller factions sought protection from Ahrar al-Sham, while others joined Fatah al-Sham, which changed its name to Hay'et Tahrir al-Sham. In July 2017, tensions between the two large armed groups escalated again, and HTS attacked Ahrar al-Sham and its allies, which withdrew after week-long clashes allowing their adversary to dominate Idlib province.

In November 2017, the HTS formed the Syrian Salvation Government, which in December issued an ultimatum to the Syrian Interim Government of the Turkey-based Syrian opposition to cease all operations in the province. In early January, Syrian regime forces with the help of Iran-backed militias and Russian air support, launched an offensive in southern Idlib province, causing tens of thousands of civilians to flee.

In response, FSA-affiliated groups and Ahrar al-Sham, Nour al-Din al-Zinki (previously associated with the HTS) and others created two separate operation rooms to counter the regime advances.

In mid-January, Abu Mohammed al-Joulani, the leader of the HTS, called for unity among armed factions in Idlib, but instead of heeding his call, other armed groups accused the HTS of withdrawing from areas in southern Idlib province to the benefit of the regime.

A month later, an alliance of Ahrar al-Sham, Nour al-Din al-Zinki and Soqour al-Sham attacked HTS. The factions managed to take over large areas in southern Idlib province, northern Hama province and western Aleppo province.

Earlier this week, Syrian opposition media reported that HTS sent reinforcements to Idlib city, its main stronghold, and Bab al-Hawa crossing on the border with Turkey.

HTS fighters managed to repel an attack on the crossing and counter-attack at other locations in Idlib. Bab al-Hawa serves as a major source of income for the armed group, which imposes a levy on goods that pass through it.

According to Wimmen, the attack on HTS was expected.

"The way [the HTS] basked in their victory, they were getting a lot of people ready to line up against them once the [time] was right, with the external threat removed," he said.

The deployment of Turkish troops in Idlib province stopped the regime offensive and gave a chance to HTS' adversaries to attack it, he added.

"[The operation] has been quite successful. After it, you can no longer say that Idlib is under exclusive HTS control," Wimmen said.

Before the attack, HTS had already been weakened by internal clashes, defections and killings. In late 2017, more than 35 high-profile foreign members of the HTS were assassinated, some of them al-Qaeda loyalists who were displeased with the formal split of the group.

According to Wimmen, some of the internal instability within HTS was the result of Turkish involvement.

"Turkey has tried to drive wedges into HTS because they see it as very problematic, and in particular the foreign element in it," said Wimmen. "They are hoping to split it and hoping to arrive at a point where the real hardliners, who are mostly foreigners, and who you cannot make any deals with, form only a small faction that you can destroy without too much damage and cost."

According to him, Turkey is likely to retain influence over Idlib and is, therefore, seeking to steer hardline armed groups into local governance. The Turkish presence in Syria's north is also likely to stave off future plans by the Syrian regime to recapture the area, Wimmen said.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...152110387.html
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سيف الله
03-18-2018, 09:22 PM
Salaam

Update situation in Ghouta.

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JustTime
03-18-2018, 11:44 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

Another update

Did UAE and Saudi Play Role in Assassination of Syrian Opposition Leaders?

According to information divulged by Abu Ali, who served in the Islamic Front for two years between 2014- 2016, the UAE played a role in the assassinations of Syrian opposition leaders, According to Yeni Safak Turkish Newspaper.

The UAE is said to be behind a wave of assassinations that targeted the most prominent anti-U.S. Syrian opposition leaders between 2014- 2015, which paved the way for Daesh and Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) terrorists to advance in opposition-held territories.

After obtaining information about the whereabouts of the opposition leaders via its intelligence services, the UAE then passed on these tips to the Assad regime which carried out attacks that killed Jaysh al-Islam commander Zahran Alloush, Ahrar Al-Sham leader Hassan Abboud and 45 high-ranking group members, according to Abu Ali, a member of the opposition group.

An attack that killed all leaders of Ahrar Al-Sham

Zahran Alloush, who was the leader of one of the biggest opposition groups in Syria, Jaysh al-Islam, was martyred on Dec. 25, 2015, following an airstrike on Eastern Ghouta.

Ahrar al-Sham leader Hasan Abboud was martyred along with 45 high-ranking members of the prominent opposition groups following a chemical attack that targeted a meeting in their Idlib headquarters on Sept. 9, 2014.

According to information divulged by Abu Ali, who served in the Islamic Front for two years between 2014- 2016, the UAE played a role in these assassinations, betraying Syria’s opposition with help from Saudi intelligence.

Saudi role

Abu Ali stressed that Saudi Arabia initially played a crucial role in supporting the opposition against the Assad regime through a Saudi intelligence colonel named Abul Kassim who assumed an influential position during that stage.

“Commander Alloush’s only communication device was a satellite phone that was given to him by the Saudis, who used it to track his movements before the attack that killed him was carried out,” said Abu Ali.

“Following investigations carried out after the attack, it was revealed that UAE first pinpointed his position and then UAE Foreign Minister Abdullah Zayed tipped Bashar Assad’s brother Maher Al-Assad about his whereabouts,” he continued.

“We also know that Muhammed Bin Zayed and his brother Abdullah played a role in the 2014 massacre of the Ahrar Al-Sham Emir Hassan Abboud and 45 of his friends,” concluded Abu Ali.

Israel knew of the attack


“Since 2015, we began to understand more clearly that some groups that were our allies during the war had a different goal.

“After 2015, we also saw that some of the information we shared with some of our allies had reached Israel. We learned that information shared with us about the location of Alloush, among other confidential topics, had also reached Israel.

“After the assassination, the cooperation between Israel, UAE, Russia and the Assad regime in the killing of Alloush became clear,” pointed out Abu Ali.

https://www.middleeastobserver.org/2...ition-leaders/

Salaam

Related

Anti-HTS offensive in northern Syria

Jabhat al-Nusra was part of the loose alliance of armed factions that took over Idlib city and the province in the spring of 2015. Its influence over the province steadily grew at the expense of other factions and despite frequent civilian protests against their oppressive presence and human rights violations.

In July 2016, Jabhat al-Nusra announced its split from al-Qaeda in Syria and changed its name to Fateh al-Sham. The move came three years after a large number of its fighters broke off from its ranks to join what came to be known as ISIL, which also rejected al-Qaeda's authority.

"That [move] back then was dismissed as a publicity stunt. If you look at the details, you realise that this was more than just a PR move," said Heiko Wimmen, a project director at the Brussels-based research organisation International Crisis Group. According to him, since the summer of 2016, the armed group has sought to reinvent itself as a nationalist armed group movement, giving less priority to international movement.

"This doesn't mean that they have become nicer people. It means [different] tactics, ideology and leadership," said Wimmen.

In mid-January 2017, what was still called Jabhat Fateh al-Sham attacked positions of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and a number of other smaller armed groups in Idlib province, entering a standoff with Ahrar al-Sham, one of the largest Islamist factions in the region, which was also included on Moscow's "moderate opposition" list.

As a result of the tensions, smaller factions sought protection from Ahrar al-Sham, while others joined Fatah al-Sham, which changed its name to Hay'et Tahrir al-Sham. In July 2017, tensions between the two large armed groups escalated again, and HTS attacked Ahrar al-Sham and its allies, which withdrew after week-long clashes allowing their adversary to dominate Idlib province.

In November 2017, the HTS formed the Syrian Salvation Government, which in December issued an ultimatum to the Syrian Interim Government of the Turkey-based Syrian opposition to cease all operations in the province. In early January, Syrian regime forces with the help of Iran-backed militias and Russian air support, launched an offensive in southern Idlib province, causing tens of thousands of civilians to flee.

In response, FSA-affiliated groups and Ahrar al-Sham, Nour al-Din al-Zinki (previously associated with the HTS) and others created two separate operation rooms to counter the regime advances.

In mid-January, Abu Mohammed al-Joulani, the leader of the HTS, called for unity among armed factions in Idlib, but instead of heeding his call, other armed groups accused the HTS of withdrawing from areas in southern Idlib province to the benefit of the regime.

A month later, an alliance of Ahrar al-Sham, Nour al-Din al-Zinki and Soqour al-Sham attacked HTS. The factions managed to take over large areas in southern Idlib province, northern Hama province and western Aleppo province.

Earlier this week, Syrian opposition media reported that HTS sent reinforcements to Idlib city, its main stronghold, and Bab al-Hawa crossing on the border with Turkey.

HTS fighters managed to repel an attack on the crossing and counter-attack at other locations in Idlib. Bab al-Hawa serves as a major source of income for the armed group, which imposes a levy on goods that pass through it.

According to Wimmen, the attack on HTS was expected.

"The way [the HTS] basked in their victory, they were getting a lot of people ready to line up against them once the [time] was right, with the external threat removed," he said.

The deployment of Turkish troops in Idlib province stopped the regime offensive and gave a chance to HTS' adversaries to attack it, he added.

"[The operation] has been quite successful. After it, you can no longer say that Idlib is under exclusive HTS control," Wimmen said.

Before the attack, HTS had already been weakened by internal clashes, defections and killings. In late 2017, more than 35 high-profile foreign members of the HTS were assassinated, some of them al-Qaeda loyalists who were displeased with the formal split of the group.

According to Wimmen, some of the internal instability within HTS was the result of Turkish involvement.

"Turkey has tried to drive wedges into HTS because they see it as very problematic, and in particular the foreign element in it," said Wimmen. "They are hoping to split it and hoping to arrive at a point where the real hardliners, who are mostly foreigners, and who you cannot make any deals with, form only a small faction that you can destroy without too much damage and cost."

According to him, Turkey is likely to retain influence over Idlib and is, therefore, seeking to steer hardline armed groups into local governance. The Turkish presence in Syria's north is also likely to stave off future plans by the Syrian regime to recapture the area, Wimmen said.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...152110387.html
That story about the UAE at the top is utter garbage and about killing commanders and stuff you should be ashamed for spreading lies
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azc
03-19-2018, 08:23 AM
The 7-year old war in Syria, with intervention of big powers, has almost destroyed the once beautiful and prosperous land of one of the most civilized peoples of the world. Even the recent Ghouta massacre of over 600 innocent women and children has failed to stir the conscience of the world leaders. No serious efforts are being made to extinguish the fire of unending war and blatant human rights violations in Syria.

Syria has been turned into a battlefield of big powers that are testing their fresh developed weapons of mass destruction on the hapless population of the country. The dictatorial regime of Bashar al- Assad is hand in gloves with the Russian government. America is supplying dangerous weapons to this party or that party alternately and improving the fortunes of the bloodsucking barons of arms manufacturing industry.

Syria would not have been destroyed in this way if the Muslim countries would have been united and powerful. Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) is virtually powerless in the hands of Muslim rulers who are mere puppets in the hands of their western masters. General masses of these foreign controlled countries are just like dumb driven animals, whose voices have been stifled, hands tied and minds captured. Had there been democracy, freedom of expression, free press and freedom of conscience in these countries, such massive destruction of Syria would not have taken place.

The world wants to know where Islam is and where its teachings of liberty, equality, fraternity and human dignity are. The teachings of Islam have been confined to the four walls of mosques or interned in the religious books. And now, in the turn of new events, even the teachings of Islam also are not allowed to be referred to in some of the Arab countries. They have lost not only Islam and its golden teachings but even the basic human values.
If we have decided to destroy ourselves, no outside power can save us. Yet the question remains if the United Nations’ responsibility is limited only to passing pious resolutions. The reality is that the big brothers, merchants of death, capitalists and conspirators of the world have entered into an unholy pact to dispose of the Arab and Muslim countries, one by one. Israel is openly behind all these conspiracies. Either we have to unite and fight for peace and justice or be ready to face slow and steady decimation. Verily Allah does not change the condition of a people unless they change themselves.

http://radianceweekly.in/portal/issu...tion-of-syria/
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Rabiatudarma
03-19-2018, 10:04 PM
InshaAllah,By Allah's Will.
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سيف الله
03-19-2018, 10:06 PM
Salaam

format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime
That story about the UAE at the top is utter garbage and about killing commanders and stuff you should be ashamed for spreading lies
First chill bro.

The article asks the question, it didn't state it as incontrovertible fact.

What do you think this conflict is, goodies vs baddies? I'm sure you've realised the the conflict in Syria is more complex than it seems, its turned into a proxy war between regional powers and the great powers, a shadow war, that is dimly understood.

If you dont think UAE and Sauds (among many others) are capable of this behaviour then you are very naive.
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JustTime
03-20-2018, 08:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam



First chill bro.

The article asks the question, it didn't state it as incontrovertible fact.

What do you think this conflict is, goodies vs baddies? I'm sure you've realised the the conflict in Syria is more complex than it seems, its turned into a proxy war between regional powers and the great powers, a shadow war, that is dimly understood.

If you dont think UAE and Sauds (among many others) are capable of this behaviour then you are very naive.
I do not doubt the evils of the UAE and Saudis but you are spreading rumors and lying. You are reiterating Pro-Turkish propaganda that posted a story about what an EX commander of the "Islamic" Front has to say regarding their enemies. You should know that the dogs in these Hizbiya factions like The "Islamic" Front are dogs and prostitutes for Turkey and others and will say anything to look good and please foreign doners and sway public opinion.

Are you not aware of the hostilities between the UAE and Turkey since the diplomatic crisis with Qatar? The lies you are spreading are no different than when the regime says that their opponents are Israeli agents you should fear Allah in the rumors you spread.

All you post is made up conspiracy theories from Kuffar like "Brother" Nathaniel or the toxic propaganda of Russia today.
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Yahya.
03-21-2018, 06:20 PM
@JustTime

There is not even a faction called the "Islamic Front" anymore. This shows that you are insulting an ambiguous range of people, which is a sign of uncertainty in knowledge. Then, citing a Muslim cannot be called spreading rumors. If you have any doubts about his statements, you have to provide evidence that is refuting the claim. What you are doing is hizbiyya and 'asabiyyah itself; slandering around without any evidence.
The aforementioned case has happened some years ago. And the leaders of the Islamic Front who had been martyred then were respected by most of the people and groups in Syria. It is not unreasonable that this might have been orchestrated by the UAE to get rid of a determinant Islamic leadership, paving the way to exert more influence on the succeeding leaders for its own foreign interest.

The statements do not imply that any certain group is fighting for UAE interests, but just illustrates how regional powers have their role in the conflict.
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سيف الله
04-03-2018, 09:21 PM
Salaam

Another update

“A man of prayer, Quran, and charity” – This was my husband, Dr Abbas Khan



Hanaa Yehia, the widow of British surgeon Dr Abbas Khan, who died in a Syrian government prison in December 2013, describes the characteristics of her husband which a recent BBC Radio 4 programme failed to shed light on.

This is Abbas.

The call to help those in need was a persistent one in Abbas’ heart. He never held back any goodness or kindness he could offer anyone.

Listening to the BBC Radio 4 drama ‘My Son the Doctor’, it saddened me that, as usual, Abbas was like an extra on the show, with no mention whatsoever to who he really was and what he held dearest to him; his deen – Islam.

I understand that this was a dramatised representation of Abbas and what he went through…but still…his legacy is one that we cannot simply reduce in this way. I want you to know those parts of him that were not simply about the man who was martyred, but how his character led him to that moment.

So far, no news article or an interview or any sort of media coverage actually reflected who Abbas really was.

Abbas was always, from a young age, religiously committed. Islam was the moving force behind his words and actions.

Opposite to what was made to seem true, Abbas never regretted going to Syria to help mend broken limbs and souls. Yes he hated the trouble he thought he landed everyone into, but he was never regretful, thus he never said “I should’ve never come here”. As claimed to have been the case on that drama programme.

Had he returned, I have no doubt he would not have been able to suppress the urge inside him to go back and help again and again.

This is Abbas! He always went out of his way to help others, always.

We were once driving from Carlisle to London around 3am it was extremely cold, we saw a car with hazard lights on – Abbas used to always check when he sees a car in that state if he could help at all. This time it was an English gentleman whose name was David. His car broke down and he was freezing, his phone was dead. Abbas offered to take him wherever he needed to go and David named a nearby Cumbrian village. He was able to call his mother and assure her he was safe.

At the entrance of the village, David told Abbas to drop him there and he would walk, but Abbas insisted he takes him to the door as the snow was a few inches high.

We dropped David to his friends and on our way out of the village we got stuck in the snow and the car wouldn’t move. Eventually, a kind farmer towed our car out with his tractor.

This is Abbas. In his heart and mind it didn’t matter what difficulties he would face as long as he answer the very unstoppable call in his heart to help, help always, and with no limits.

As much as he tried to be nameless, Allah willed his name to be known on earth and hopefully – by Allah’s generosity – in Paradise.

Abbas’ life, his dedication to his deen and enormous amount of sincerity he carried in his heart. The way he departed and the honour Allah willed to attach to his name for eternity was a reflection of Allah’s mercy on him and – I believe – an honourable reward for his humility.

Even when he was at a time of dire need, Abbas wrote requesting no money to be given to prison guards or officials and asked for it to be all given instead to widows and orphans. This is Abbas.

Abbas had the gentlest heart. Before heading to Aleppo, one of his colleagues, an orthopaedic surgeon, had an expensive bird, caged. When this colleague was out, Abbas opened the cage door and let the bird free, and later told his colleague he was happy to pay for the bird’s freedom. This is Abbas.

Abbas was a practising Muslim; was a man of prayer and supplication, a man of Qur’an, a man of charity, a man of morals.

How many mosques will bear witness for Abbas’ love! It never ceased to amaze me how he would always be blessed with catching salaah from the beginning! Every time! Even when we would drive around looking for a masjid, he would always catch the first rakaah. It’s amazing. I believe it’s Allah’s reward for his sincerity.

The Friday congregational prayer was extremely important to Abbas, to the extent that before considering whether to accept a job he would check if he can take the time for Jummah off.

If we were driving on the motorway, he would stop, no matter what, to pray. He would take the first possible exit to pray, even though he is travelling and he knows he can combine his salaah later.

He was over joyous to tell me he had completed the memorisation of Surah Al-kahf, a goal he worked towards for a long time and was blessed with completing just days before he was killed…whilst in prison. These verses were – interpretation of the meaning:

“However, [for the hospitality of] those who believed and did righteous deeds, there will be gardens of Paradise( 107) wherein they will abide for ever and they will never desire to go anywhere out of them (108).”

May these last verses he memorised be a reflection of his destination, insha’Allah.

https://5pillarsuk.com/2018/03/31/a-man-of-prayer-quran-and-charity-this-was-my-husband-dr-abbas-khan/
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سيف الله
04-03-2018, 10:36 PM
Salaam

Another perspective on what is happening in Syria.

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سيف الله
04-04-2018, 06:51 PM
Salaam

Another update

Trump: Saudis need to pay if they want US troops to stay in Syria

Trump reiterates necessity for US troops to leave Syria unless Riyadh pays for continuation of US presence there.


US President Donald Trump has said that Saudi Arabia might have to pay if it wants continuing US presence in Syria.

"We've almost completed that task [of defeating ISIL] and we'll be making a determination very quickly, in coordination with others in the area, as to what we'll do," said Trump on Tuesday during a White House press conference with leaders from three Baltic nations.

"Saudi Arabia is very interested in our decision, and I said, 'Well, you know, you want us to stay, maybe you're going to have to pay'."

Trump spoke on Monday with the King of Saudi Arabia, Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, over the phone to discuss a range of regional issues, including a peace plan between Israelis and Palestinians and opportunities to strengthen the American-Saudi strategic partnership.

But the White House statement of the call, released on Tuesday, did not mention any discussion about Saudi Arabia's boosting funding for US military efforts in Syria.

Similarly, a White House readout of his March 20 meeting with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman made no mention of US military efforts in the region.

'I want to get out'

Trump's remarks appeared to contradict the rhetoric on Syria from other top US officials. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson had pledged an enduring presence in Syria last year.

But Trump reiterated calls to end US presence in the region, after he made similar statements at an event in Ohio last week.

"I want to get out. I want to bring our troops back home," Trump said.

"We do a lot of things in this country, we do them for a lot of reasons, but it is very costly for our country, and it helps other countries a hell of a lot more than it helps us," he added.

Trump also railed against ongoing US intervention in the Middle East and its growing cost.

"Think of it, $7 trillion over a 17-year period. We have nothing. Nothing except death and destruction. It's a horrible thing. So it is time. It is time," he said at the White House press conference.

"We were very successful against ISIL. We'll be successful against anybody militarily. But sometimes it is time to come back home. And we're thinking about that very seriously."

The Obama administration launched a war in 2014 against the ISIL after the group flourished in the chaos of the Syrian civil war and then surged over the Iraq border in a bid to overtake Baghdad.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/trump-saudis-pay-troops-stay-syria-180404061302069.html
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سيف الله
04-04-2018, 09:20 PM
Salaam

Like to share.

Blurb

Amazing story of Abu Hamada, a 63 year old man who spent 25 years in Assad’s torture prison. He tells us about why he fights the regime from the front lines and what it was like to have his first child at 58 years old.

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Zzz_
04-05-2018, 04:16 PM
US Commander: ‘US Troops Prepared to Die for Israel’ in War against Syria, Hezbollah

Operation Juniper Cobra is not a routine exercise; it is a portent of a potentially devastating war against Syria, Hezbollah and Gaza for which Israel is actively preparing — a war likely to erupt within the coming months.




TEL AVIV, ISRAEL – Last Sunday, the largest joint military exercise between the United States and Israel began with little fanfare. The war game, dubbed “Operation Juniper Cobra,” has been a regular occurrence for years, though it has consistently grown in size and scope. Now, however, this year’s 12-day exercise brings a portent of conflict unlike those of its predecessors.


Previous reports on the operation suggested that, like prior incarnations of the same exercise, the focus would be on improving Israeli defenses. “Juniper Cobra 2018 is another step in improving the readiness of the IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] and the IAF [Israeli Air Force] in particular to enhance their operational capabilities in facing the threat posed by high-trajectory missiles,” Brig. Gen. Zvika Haimovitch, the IDF’s Aerial Defense Division head, told the Jerusalem Post.


However, this year’s “Juniper Cobra” is unique for several reasons. The Post reported on Thursday that the drill, set to end on March 15, was not only the largest joint U.S.-Israeli air defense exercise to ever happen but it was also simulating a battle “on three fronts.” In other words, Israel and the U.S. are jointly simulating a war with Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine – namely, the Gaza strip – simultaneously.


What makes this last part so concerning are Israel’s recent statements and other preparations for war with all three nations, making “Juniper Cobra” anything but a “routine” drill. It is instead yet another preparation for a massive regional conflict, suggesting that such a conflict could be only a matter of months away.

more at : https://www.mintpressnews.com/israel...bollah/238768/

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سيف الله
04-10-2018, 10:16 PM
Salaam

Another viewpoint on why this war is happening.

Why don't Gulf States want Assad to remain in power in Syria?

All what you read about gas pipelines and so forth is a conspiracy theory poppycock that’s not worth its efforts to write or read. The issue of Gulf States with Assad is substantially much deeper than this superficial assumption.

I will try to be short:

The Middle East mainly consists of 3 main powers distinguished and represented by culture, mass population and geographical extend:

  • The first is the Arabian Muslim Sunni power. This power has the most mass and momentum in the Middle East. It’s mainly represented by most Arab countries.
  • The second is the Persian Muslim Shiite power. This is mainly represented by Iran, a small part of the Arab Shiite populations and Shite Muslims in east and north Iran (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, etc).
  • The third is the Turkish Muslim Sunni power. This power is obviously known.



These 3 powers are in a constant competition on wealth and dominance in the Middle East ever since the collapse of Ottoman Empire in early 20th century. Each one of them uses every cultural and material means to gain more power over the other.

Examples:

  • Iran dreams to topple off all Gulf States regimes and lift ‘Al Hussain’ flags above Al Qaba (the pilgrim destination of Muslims). For that it uses the dramatical and emotional believe system that distinguishes Shiite Muslims who want to take revenge of those who killed Al Hussain, one of Shiite holy personalities killed by one Muslim Khalifat 1350 years ago! Of course Iran aims at power and dominance using this believe system of Shite.
  • Turkey wants to convince Sunni Muslim Arabs that their only way to build their civilization “again” is to be united under its leadership so that they can together build an autocracy (dubbed Islamic democracy).
  • Gulf States (the heart of Sunny Muslim Arabs’s world) wish for Iran to be defeated and Turkey to shut up so things can keep the way they are without to compromise the wealth they enjoy.



Now we come to the problem of Gulf States with Assad:

Assad belongs to one of the Arab Shite minorities (Alawaite) that align with Iran and serve its agendas in the Middle East. He and his father have been always in favor of Iran in all kind of conflicts between Iran and the Gulf States. And since the rulers of the Gulf States know very well that Iran wants them off the power (Iran is very explicit about this), they can’t afford to let go for any opportunity to topple off Assad regime and get back Syria to the Muslim Sunni camp like it was before Assad family military coup in 1970. In other words: Gulf States want Assad down for their own security, not for any gas pipelines he rejected to build.


If you’re reading until here you must now have understood the seriousness of freeing Syria from Assad and Iranian militias in the eyes of Gulf States rulers.

https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-Gulf-States-want-Assad-to-remain-in-power-in-Syria
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Silas
04-12-2018, 01:15 AM
There is another power in the Middle East that we need to worry about, and that is Russia

What is Vladimir Putin's long-term strategy in the Middle-East? It is to make puppet states out of both Iran and Syria, even if this means creating a massive conflict in the region.

Every time there is a chemical weapons attack in Syria, it conveniently proves to Iran and Syria that "Russian protection" is needed, and that means Putin gets to station troops within the borders of these nations, gets economic and material concessions, and access to ports in the Mediterranean. As Iran becomes a pariah state with no allies, it opens up the opportunity for Putin to force them to allow a Russian naval base to be built in the Strait of Hormuz.

That will then lead to a convenient situation where the Iranian people rise up against their corrupt puppet state, and Putin has to roll in his tanks to "take control" of the situation. Hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers will pour into that nation to essentially seize control of it. Putin will then completely control the Strait of Hormuz and the entrance to the Persian Gulf. He will conduct a naval blockade, driving the price of oil to $500 a barrel and with his new Iranian reserves, he will corner the world's oil market.

This is how Russia operates: capitalize on civil discord and ethnic conflict within countries (such as the Ukraine or South Ossetia), and use these situations to roll in his troops and take control.

The US typically likes to control nations through shadowy agreements with their leaders, or economic dominance. Russia will control nations by outright invading them.

The Persians are fools for allowing this dime-store dictator to influence their foreign policy and wrap his tentacles around their nation.
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JustTime
04-13-2018, 04:45 AM
The recent Douma chemical attack and the others since the beginning of this war are signs of hypocrisy in the highest when it comes to the region, Iraq was invaded numerous times for allegedly having chemical weapons but when this Nusayri dog Bashar uses his weapons the world denies it, and debates it even though the Americans acknowledge it and even bomb this -------'s military positions there are little to no cries to war from the public or nearly the same amount of attention or action showed towards Bashar like the way Saddam was shown, Saddam was humiliated, villainized and murdered for allegedly having chemical weapons, human rights violations and 'links' to al-Qaeda when a decade earlier he was given the key to the city of Detroit, and in his own words "America treats third world nations like an Iraqi treats their bride few days of a honey moon than straight to the fields".

The only reason is simple Saddam was a Muslim Arab who defied the Iranians, the Communists and other plotters and aggressors like the Kurds who sought to overthrow him and destabilize and destroy this nation blessed with beauty and natural resources and a strong people, the de-Baathification policy in Iraq was harsher than even that of the de-Nazification of Germany and went from being an American attempt to replace the former regime's policies to being an Iranian project to eradicate Iraqi Sunnis and destroy any resistance its hegemony in the region, if Saddam was alive today Bashar would be under his feet, Hezbollah would have nowhere to hide and nowhere to operate and nowhere to abuse, rape and murder, and Iran would be in a constant state of emergency.

Today I saw an extremely ignorant disgusting individual claiming the most absurd denial of Bashar's crimes saying "These attacks are likely not his he's winning" of course he's wining he has no ethics, morals, or respect for humanity outside of his circle of scum like Putin, Rouhani and Nasrallah if they aren't one of these individuals he doesn't care how many children he kills how many widows he makes or how many sons and fathers die defending them.

The only people I hate more than Bashar are his supporters the ones who aren't even in his army or even in Syria or even Arab or Muslim the ones who make despicable claims like a simple humanitarian organization like the White Helmets which has the sole duty of civil defense they accuse them of being combatants to legalize their delinquency, this is how low they are, these people without any doubt in mind are the people of Hellfire only someone who is evil could say such things, this is why Allah says they have a disease in their hearts.

Saddam Hussein was hung at the hands of the very people helping Bashar in Ghouta and the rest of Syria as well the Iraqi Shia groups like Mehdi Army, Badr Organization, and Hezbollah these are the people who hung Saddam in 2006 and today they are the ones who turned Damascus and Aleppo into slaughterhouses, and Bashar continues to live a life of comfort in a beautiful house with protection of one of the world's strongest countries and he will never be brought to justice, he'll never be humiliated and executed for all the people he has murdered.

Make Dua for the people of the Mashriq.
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Silas
04-13-2018, 01:55 PM
Iran and Syria's relationship with Russia is a disgrace. Especially in the case of Iran, that nation should be independent and worry about its own internal affairs, instead of engaging in international intrigues, proxy wars with Saudi Arabia in Yemen, etc. It will only isolate itself further until its people will finally rise up, and the would-be-theocrats will be overthrown.

As for Syria, there isn't a good solution there. If Assad is ultimately overthrown, someone even worse could take power, or the entire country could descend into anarchy. Putin would us it as an opportunity to annex parts of the nation, and turn the rest of it into a puppet-state. Israel would probably attack regions in the south, and strengthen its grip on the Golan Heights.
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JustTime
04-13-2018, 02:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Silas
Iran and Syria's relationship with Russia is a disgrace. Especially in the case of Iran, that nation should be independent and worry about its own internal affairs, instead of engaging in international intrigues, proxy wars with Saudi Arabia in Yemen, etc. It will only isolate itself further until its people will finally rise up, and the would-be-theocrats will be overthrown.

As for Syria, there isn't a good solution there. If Assad is ultimately overthrown, someone even worse could take power, or the entire country could descend into anarchy. Putin would us it as an opportunity to annex parts of the nation, and turn the rest of it into a puppet-state. Israel would probably attack regions in the south, and strengthen its grip on the Golan Heights.
This is a post that is filled with nothing but support for Assad, this excuse of "stability" and someone "worse" are the most pathetic excuses on Earth for this spawn of Satan, you should be embrassed making excuses for him and Iran.
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Silas
04-13-2018, 02:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime
This is a post that is filled with nothing but support for Assad, this excuse of "stability" and someone "worse" are the most pathetic excuses on Earth for this spawn of Satan, you should be embrassed making excuses for him and Iran.
I am not making excuses for Assad or Iran --I am merely being pragmatic.

Who is going to replace Assad exactly? ISIS? Do we need more beheadings slave markets, which were a disgrace to Islam and an international embarrassment?

I would be happy to support a Muslim leader in Syria who could turn that country around, but where is he?
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JustTime
04-13-2018, 03:10 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Silas
I am not making excuses for Assad or Iran --I am merely being pragmatic.

Who is going to replace Assad exactly? ISIS? Do we need more beheadings slave markets, which were a disgrace to Islam and an international embarrassment?

I would be happy to support a Muslim leader in Syria who could turn that country around, but where is he?
No you support Assad there are no excuses for him none at all he kills children he isnt just a disagrace to Islam or Arabs he is a sigrace to humanity.
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سيف الله
04-13-2018, 04:24 PM
Salaam

Brother I understand this is an emotive issue but we have to stay calm. I have a different opinion from Silas but I appreciate his contribution, we wont learn if we just hear what we want to hear.
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JustTime
04-13-2018, 06:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

Brother I understand this is an emotive issue but we have to stay calm. I have a different opinion from Silas but I appreciate his contribution, we wont learn if we just hear what we want to hear.
Then let the facts speak for themselves and leave it at that



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Silas
04-13-2018, 06:17 PM
I do NOT support Assad

I am merely pointing out that if you are to overthrow him, you better not put someone even worse in charge, or simply throw the entire country into chaos and anarchy
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سيف الله
04-14-2018, 10:40 AM
Salaam

As stated earlier

https://www.islamicboard.com/world-affairs/134349774-uk-france-strike-syria.html

Trump has launched airstrikes on Syria :facepalm:. Could it be symbolic? Or is it a harbinger of much worse to come.

A wider perspective on what is going on.

What Price for Collapse of the Empire?

The truth is that Russia would never be a credible threat to the AngloZionist Hegemony if it was not for the innumerable self-inflicted disasters the Empire has been absorbing year after year after year. In reality, Russia is no threat to anybody at all. And even China would not be a threat to the Empire if the latter was not so arrogant, so over-stretched, so ignorant, reckless and incompetent in its actions.

Let me just give one simple, but stark, example: not only does the US not have anything remotely resembling a consistent foreign policy, it does not even have any ministry of foreign affairs. The Department of State does not deal with diplomacy simply because the US leaders don’t believe in diplomacy as a concept. All the DoS does is issue threats, sanctions, ultimatums, make demands, deliver score-cards (on human rights and the like, of all things!) and explain to the public why the US is almost constantly at war with somebody. That is not “diplomacy” and the likes of Nikki Haley are not diplomats. In fact, the US has no use for International Law either, hence the self-same Nikki Haley openly declaring at a UNSC meeting that the US is willing to ignore the decisions of the UNSC and act in complete violation of the UN Charter. Simply put: thugs have no need for any diplomacy. They don’t understand the concept.

Just like their Israeli masters and mentors, the Americans have convinced themselves that all they need to be successful on the international scene is to either threaten the use of force or actually use force. This works great (or so it seems) in Gaza or Grenada, but when dealing with China, Russia or Iran, this monomaniacal approach rapidly shows its limitations, especially when your force is really limited to shooting missiles from afar or murdering civilians (neither the US nor Israel nor, for that matter, the KSA has a credible “boots on the ground” capability, hence their reliance on proxies).

The Empire is failing, fast, and for all the talk about “Animal Assad” or “Rocket Man” being in need of AngloZionist punishment, the stakes are the survival of Hegemony imposed upon mankind at the end of WWII and, again, at the end of the Cold War, and the future of our planet. There cannot be one World Hegemon and a multipolar world order regulated by international law. It’s an either-or situation. And in that sense, this is all much bigger than Syria or even Russia.

There is still a chance that the AngloZionists will decide to strike Syria symbolically, as they did last year following the previous chemical false flag in Khan Sheikhoun (Trump has now probably tweeted himself into a corner which makes some kind of attack almost inevitable). Should that happen though, we should not celebrate too soon as this will just be a minor course change, the 21st-century anti-Russia Crusade will continue, most likely in the form of a Ukronazi attack on the Donbass.

http://www.unz.com/tsaker/what-price-for-collapse-of-the-empire/

And another

Israeli military historian Martin van Creveld take on the situation.

A Thirty Years’ War?

With so many interests, native and foreign, involved, a way out does not seem in sight. Nor can the outcome be foreseen any more than that of the Thirty Years’ War could be four years after the beginning of the conflict, i.e. 1622. In fact there is good reason to believe that the hostilities have just begun. Additional players such as Lebanon and Jordan may well be drawn in. That in turn will almost certainly bring in Israel as well. Some right-wing Israelis, including several ministers, actually dream of such a scenario. They hope that the fall of the Hashemite Dynasty and the disintegration of Jordan will provide them with an opportunity to repeat the events of 1948 by throwing the Palestinians out of the West Bank and into Jordan.

That, however, is Zukunftmusik, future music as the Germans say. As of the present, the greatest losers are going to be Syria and Iraq. Neither really exists any longer as organized entities, and neither seems to have a future as such an entity. The greatest winner is going to be Iran. Playing the role once reserved for Richelieu, the great 17th century French statesman, the Mullahs are watching the entire vast area from the Persian Gulf to Latakia on the eastern shore of the Mediterranean turn into a maelstrom of conflicting interests they can play with. Nor are they at all sorry to see Turks and Kurds kill each other to their hearts’ contents.

http://www.martin-van-creveld.com/a-thirty-years-war-2/
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Misbah-Abd
04-14-2018, 10:48 AM
These strikes won't change anything and is most likely a lame attempt that the Western Allies won't stand for chemical weapons attacks. First, they let the Russians and Syrians know what they are going to target so they can get all their weapons and personnel out of the way. If they really wanted to send a message, you go after Assad's palaces and his hiding spots that I am sure the Intelligence Community knows where they are located. It's all staged.
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Silas
04-14-2018, 02:10 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd
These strikes won't change anything and is most likely a lame attempt that the Western Allies won't stand for chemical weapons attacks. First, they let the Russians and Syrians know what they are going to target so they can get all their weapons and personnel out of the way. If they really wanted to send a message, you go after Assad's palaces and his hiding spots that I am sure the Intelligence Community knows where they are located. It's all staged.
Even though I was completely against the strikes, they did do one thing:

They showed that "Russian protection" against the US in the Middle East is a sham --Putin didn't lift a finger to stop the attacks, and instead pulled his ships out of port and his troops away from the combat zone.

If the Iranian leadership had half a brain, they would realize that Putin's partnership gains them nothing. Not protection, not strength at the bargaining table, and not legitimacy. Choose your friends badly, and bad things will happen to you.

I speak with Iranians who think that Putin and Assad are widely admired throughout the world, and that only the US dislikes them --that is just nonsense. These people are blinded by state propaganda.
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سيف الله
04-14-2018, 10:20 PM
Salaam

Putin was probably forewarned about this, you don't want to accidentally start the next World War. this is my take but I don't think Trump was keen on this but the deep state twisted his arm. The strikes were limited, I think there are no deaths from this strike.

Putin wants to protect his access to the sea, protect his only ally in the region and block the globalists agenda in Syria, among many other things.

I'm sure Iran knows this there interests overlap but I think they would rather have Russians as an ally in this instance rather than Western powers, given the history.

Strange didnt Assad get rid of his chemical weapons a couple of years back?
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Misbah-Abd
04-14-2018, 11:09 PM
Let the kuffar get into a major war with each other. The Ummah will be better off for it.
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سيف الله
04-14-2018, 11:35 PM
Salaam

format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd
Let the kuffar get into a major war with each other. The Ummah will be better off for it.
I doubt that, We'd all be dragged into it.



And even if we could escape it, it would be a callous thing to wish for :hmm:
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Misbah-Abd
04-15-2018, 01:06 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam



I doubt that, We'd all be dragged into it.



And even if we could escape it, it would be a callous thing to wish for :hmm:
A bit dramatic don't you think?
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OnlyMuslim
04-15-2018, 02:23 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd
A bit dramatic don't you think?
I think he's got a point. You have to remember that some Muslims such as myself live in the West so there would be no escaping it. Also, if countries use nuclear weapons, it can be damaging to everyone.
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Zzz_
04-15-2018, 02:38 AM
What is written will come to pass, i wouldn't bother worrying about what if this and what if that.
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JustTime
04-15-2018, 03:21 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam



I doubt that, We'd all be dragged into it.



And even if we could escape it, it would be a callous thing to wish for :hmm:
It doesn't matter it is inevitable the Prophet promised us such a fate in the end times in the era of Malahim all this would mean is either we are in the era or close to it, and for us believers it means we are closer to the hour and closer to Jannah insha'Allah and Jannah is better than this Dunya, don't be clingy.

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format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd
A bit dramatic don't you think?
He likes exaggerating
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azc
04-15-2018, 01:00 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime
The recent Douma chemical attack and the others since the beginning of this war are signs of hypocrisy in the highest when it comes to the region, Iraq was invaded numerous times for allegedly having chemical weapons but when this Nusayri dog Bashar uses his weapons the world denies it, and debates it even though the Americans acknowledge it and even bomb this -------'s military positions there are little to no cries to war from the public or nearly the same amount of attention or action showed towards Bashar like the way Saddam was shown, Saddam was humiliated, villainized and murdered for allegedly having chemical weapons, human rights violations and 'links' to al-Qaeda when a decade earlier he was given the key to the city of Detroit, and in his own words "America treats third world nations like an Iraqi treats their bride few days of a honey moon than straight to the fields".

The only reason is simple Saddam was a Muslim Arab who defied the Iranians, the Communists and other plotters and aggressors like the Kurds who sought to overthrow him and destabilize and destroy this nation blessed with beauty and natural resources and a strong people, the de-Baathification policy in Iraq was harsher than even that of the de-Nazification of Germany and went from being an American attempt to replace the former regime's policies to being an Iranian project to eradicate Iraqi Sunnis and destroy any resistance its hegemony in the region, if Saddam was alive today Bashar would be under his feet, Hezbollah would have nowhere to hide and nowhere to operate and nowhere to abuse, rape and murder, and Iran would be in a constant state of emergency.

Today I saw an extremely ignorant disgusting individual claiming the most absurd denial of Bashar's crimes saying "These attacks are likely not his he's winning" of course he's wining he has no ethics, morals, or respect for humanity outside of his circle of scum like Putin, Rouhani and Nasrallah if they aren't one of these individuals he doesn't care how many children he kills how many widows he makes or how many sons and fathers die defending them.

The only people I hate more than Bashar are his supporters the ones who aren't even in his army or even in Syria or even Arab or Muslim the ones who make despicable claims like a simple humanitarian organization like the White Helmets which has the sole duty of civil defense they accuse them of being combatants to legalize their delinquency, this is how low they are, these people without any doubt in mind are the people of Hellfire only someone who is evil could say such things, this is why Allah says they have a disease in their hearts.

Saddam Hussein was hung at the hands of the very people helping Bashar in Ghouta and the rest of Syria as well the Iraqi Shia groups like Mehdi Army, Badr Organization, and Hezbollah these are the people who hung Saddam in 2006 and today they are the ones who turned Damascus and Aleppo into slaughterhouses, and Bashar continues to live a life of comfort in a beautiful house with protection of one of the world's strongest countries and he will never be brought to justice, he'll never be humiliated and executed for all the people he has murdered.

Make Dua for the people of the Mashriq.
At last late Saddam Husain has been revived as a good ruler.

Thanks.
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Misbah-Abd
04-15-2018, 04:10 PM
The only good rulers are those that rule by the Law of Allah. All others are Taghuut rulers. Whether Arab or otherwise. Saddaam doesn't get a pass because he was an Arab.
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anatolian
04-15-2018, 05:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Silas
Even though I was completely against the strikes, they did do one thing:

They showed that "Russian protection" against the US in the Middle East is a sham --Putin didn't lift a finger to stop the attacks, and instead pulled his ships out of port and his troops away from the combat zone.

If the Iranian leadership had half a brain, they would realize that Putin's partnership gains them nothing. Not protection, not strength at the bargaining table, and not legitimacy. Choose your friends badly, and bad things will happen to you.

I speak with Iranians who think that Putin and Assad are widely admired throughout the world, and that only the US dislikes them --that is just nonsense. These people are blinded by state propaganda.
Because Putin is now really scared of a massive NATO attack towards directly Russia. The global balance has already broken. Illuminati wants a third world war. And he knows that.

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format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd
Let the kuffar get into a major war with each other. The Ummah will be better off for it.
We Muslims dont want any one be killed unjustly. A major world war with those scary amount of nuclear guns in hands of each side brings only destruction to mankind. But everything is under Allah’s control. If it happens we must stay neutral.
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azc
04-15-2018, 05:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd
The only good rulers are those that rule by the Law of Allah. All others are Taghuut rulers. Whether Arab or otherwise. Saddaam doesn't get a pass because he was an Arab.
Actually, bro just time mentioned him in his post from positive aspect
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Misbah-Abd
04-15-2018, 07:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNulkbvqZiA

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سيف الله
04-15-2018, 10:00 PM
Salaam

format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd
A bit dramatic don't you think?
Not really brother.

Chomsky: Like Obama, Trump Is Radically Increasing the Danger of Nuclear War




Bulletin of the Atomic Scientist 70 Years Speaking Knowledge to Power

2018
IT IS 2 MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT


The failure of world leaders to address the largest threats to humanity’s future is lamentable—but that failure can be reversed. It is two minutes to midnight, but the Doomsday Clock has ticked away from midnight in the past, and during the next year, the world can again move it further from apocalypse. The warning the Science and Security Board now sends is clear, the danger obvious and imminent. The opportunity to reduce the danger is equally clear. The world has seen the threat posed by the misuse of information technology and witnessed the vulnerability of democracies to disinformation. But there is a flip side to the abuse of social media. Leaders react when citizens insist they do so, and citizens around the world can use the power of the internet to improve the long-term prospects of their children and grandchildren. They can insist on facts, and discount nonsense. They can demand action to reduce the existential threat of nuclear war and unchecked climate change. They can seize the opportunity to make a safer and saner world. See the full statement from the Science and Security Board on the 2018 time of the Doomsday Clock.


https://thebulletin.org/clock/2018
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سيف الله
04-15-2018, 11:15 PM
Salaam

Just to follow up I know its the Daily Mail but its believable.


Royal Navy's $1.3bn submarine was locked in a deadly game of 'hide and seek' with Russian hunter-killer ships for DAYS before air strikes on Syria


A Royal Navy submarine was hunted by Russian warships in a 'cat and mouse' pursuit under the eastern Mediterranean shortly before the UK took part in airstrikes against the Assad regime in Syria, it has emerged.

Russian hunter-killer submarines, nicknamed 'Black Hole' because of their stealth, chased the British Astute-class submarines over several days, supported by two frigates and an anti-submarine aircraft, according to a military source.

UK Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said today that the UK would have to take 'precautions' against Russian cyber-attacks, after Russian President Vladimir Putin warned of 'consequences' following the airstrikes by the UK, US and France in which suspected chemical weapons sites in Syria were reduced to rubble.

The Russian Kilo-class submarines tracked the British crew as the UK vessel, carrying Tomahawk missiles with a range of up to 1,000 miles, moved within firing distance of Syria, The Sunday Times reports.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5617799/Royal-Navy-submarine-hunted-Russia-cat-mouse-pursuit.html
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سيف الله
04-16-2018, 01:32 AM
Salaam

More comment.

The ‘anti-imperialism’ of idiots

Once more the western ‘anti-war’ movement has awoken to mobilise around Syria. This is the third time since 2011. The first was when Obama contemplated striking the Syrian regime’s military capability (but didn’t) following chemical attacks on the Ghouta in 2013, considered a ‘red line’. The second time was when Donald Trump ordered a strike which hit an empty regime military base in response to chemical attacks on Khan Sheikhoun in 2017. And today, as the US, UK and France take limited military action (targeted strikes on regime military assets and chemical weapons facilities) following a chemical weapons attack in Douma which killed at least 34 people, including many children who were sheltering in basements from bombing.

The first thing to note from the three major mobilisations of the western ‘anti-war’ left is that they have little to do with ending the war. More than half a million Syrians have been killed since 2011. The vast majority of civilian deaths have been through the use of conventional weapons and 94 per cent of these victims were killed by the Syrian-Russian-Iranian alliance. There is no outrage or concern feigned for this war, which followed the regime’s brutal crackdown on peaceful, pro-democracy demonstrators. There’s no outrage when barrel bombs, chemical weapons and napalm are dropped on democratically self-organized communities or target hospitals and rescue workers. Civilians are expendable; the military capabilities of a genocidal, fascist regime are not. In fact the slogan ‘Hands off Syria’ really means ‘Hands off Assad’ and support is often given for Russia’s military intervention. This was evident yesterday at a demonstration organized by Stop the War UK where a number of regime and Russian flags were shamefully on display.

This left exhibits deeply authoritarian tendencies, one that places states themselves at the centre of political analysis. Solidarity is therefore extended to states (seen as the main actor in a struggle for liberation) rather than oppressed or underprivileged groups in any given society, no matter that state’s tyranny. Blind to the social war occurring within Syria itself, the Syrian people (where they exist) are viewed as mere pawns in a geo-political chess game. They repeat the mantra ‘Assad is the legitimate ruler of a sovereign country’. Assad – who inherited a dictatorship from his father and has never held, let alone won, a free and fair election. Assad – whose ‘Syrian Arab Army’ can only regain the territory it lost with the backing of a hotchpotch of foreign mercenaries and supported by foreign bombs, and who are fighting, by and large, Syrian-born rebels and civilians. How many would consider their own elected government legitimate if it began carrying out mass rape campaigns against dissidents? It’s only the complete dehumanization of Syrians that makes such a position even possible. It’s a racism that sees Syrians as incapable of achieving, let alone deserving, anything better than one of the most brutal dictatorships of our time.

For this authoritarian left, support is extended to the Assad regime in the name of ‘anti-imperialism’. Assad is seen as part of the ‘axis of resistance’ against both US Empire and Zionism. It matters little that the Assad regime itself supported the first Gulf war, or participated in the US illegal rendition programme where suspected terrorists were tortured in Syria on the CIA’s behalf. The fact that this regime probably holds the dubious distinction of slaughtering more Palestinians than the Israeli state is constantly overlooked, as is the fact that it’s more intent on using its armed forces to suppress internal dissent than to liberate the Israeli-occupied Golan.

This ‘anti-imperialism’ of idiots is one which equates imperialism with the actions of the US alone. They seem unaware that the US has been bombing Syria since 2014. In its campaign to liberate Raqqa from Daesh all international norms of war and considerations of proportionality were abandoned. Over 1,000 civilians were killed and the UN estimates that 80 per cent of the city is now uninhabitable. There were no protests organized by leading ‘anti-war’ organizations against this intervention, no calls to ensure that civilians and civilian infrastructure were protected. Instead they adopted the ‘War on Terror’ discourse, once the preserve of neo-cons, now promulgated by the regime, that all opposition to Assad are jihadi terrorists. They turned a blind eye to Assad filling his gulag with thousands of secular, peaceful, pro-democracy demonstrators for death by torture, whilst releasing militant-Islamists from prison. Similarly, the continuing protests held in liberated areas in opposition to extremist and authoritarian groups such as Daesh, Nusra and Ahrar Al Sham have been ignored. Syrians are not seen as possessing the sophistication to hold a diverse range of views. Civil society activists (including many amazing women), citizen journalists, humanitarian workers are irrelevant. The entire opposition is reduced to its most authoritarian elements or seen as mere conduits for foreign interests.

This pro-fascist left seems blind to any form of imperialism that is non-western in origin. It combines identity politics with egoism. Everything that happens is viewed through the prism of what it means for westerners – only white men have the power to make history. According to the Pentagon there are currently around 2000 American troops in Syria. The US has established a number of military bases in the Kurdish-controlled north for the first time in Syria’s history. This should concern anyone who supports Syrian self-determination yet pales in comparison to the tens of thousands of Iranian troops and Iranian backed Shia militias which are now occupying large parts of the country, or the murderous bombing raids carried out by the Russian air force in support of the fascist dictatorship. Russia has now established permanent military bases in the country, and has been handed exclusive rights over Syria’s oil and gas as a reward for its support. Noam Chomsky once argued that Russia’s intervention could not be considered imperialism because it was invited to bomb the country by the Syrian regime. By that analysis, the US’s intervention in Vietnam was not imperialism either, invited as it was by the South-Vietnamese government.

A number of anti-war organizations have justified their silence on Russian and Iranian interventions by arguing that ‘the main enemy is at home’. This excuses them from undertaking any serious power analysis to determine who the main actors driving the war actually are. For Syrians the main enemy is indeed at home – it’s Assad who is engaging in what the UN has termed ‘the crime of extermination’. Without being aware of their own contradictions many of the same voices have been vocally opposed (and rightly so) to Israel’s current assault on peaceful demonstrators in Gaza. Of course, one of the main ways imperialism works is to deny native voices. In this vein, leading western anti-war organizations hold conferences on Syria without inviting any Syrian speakers.

The other major political trend to have thrown its weight behind the Assad regime and organize against US, UK and French strikes on Syria is the far right. Today, the discourse of fascists and these ‘anti-imperialist leftists’ is virtually indistinguishable. In the US, white supremacist Richard Spencer, alt right podcaster Mike Enoch and anti-immigration activist Ann Coulter are all opposing US strikes. In the UK former BNP leader Nick Griffin and Islamophobe Katie Hopkins join the calls. The place where the alt-right and alt-left frequently converge is around promoting various conspiracy theories to absolve the regime of its crimes. They claim chemical massacres are false flags or that rescue workers are Al Qaeda and therefore legitimate targets for attack. Those spreading such reports are not on the ground in Syria and are unable to independently verify their claims. They are often dependent on Russian or Assad state propaganda outlets because they ‘don’t trust the MSM’ or Syrians directly affected. Sometimes the convergence of these two seemingly opposite strands of the political spectrum turns into outright collaboration. The ANSWER coalition, which is organizing many of the demonstrations against a strike on Assad in the US, has such a history. Both strands frequently promote Islamophobic and anti-Semitic narratives. Both share the same talking points and same memes.

There are many valid reasons for opposing external military intervention in Syria, whether it be by the US, Russia, Iran or Turkey. None of these states are acting in the interests of the Syrian people, democracy or human rights. They act solely in their own interests. The US, UK and French intervention today is less about protecting Syrians from mass-atrocity and more about enforcing an international norm that chemical weapons use is unacceptable, lest one day they be used on westerners themselves. More foreign bombs will not bring about peace and stability. There’s little appetite to force Assad from power which would contribute to ending the worst of the atrocities. Yet in opposing foreign intervention, one needs to come up with an alternative to protect Syrians from slaughter. It’s morally objectionable to say the least to expect Syrians to just shut up and die to protect the higher principle of ‘anti-imperialism’. Many alternatives to foreign military intervention have been proposed by Syrians time and again and have been ignored. And so the question remains, when diplomatic options have failed, when a genocidal regime is protected from censure by powerful international backers, when no progress is made in stopping daily bombing, ending starvation sieges or releasing prisoners who are being tortured on an industrial scale, what can be done.

I no longer have an answer. I’ve consistently opposed all foreign military intervention in Syria, supported Syrian led process to rid their country of a tyrant and international processes grounded in efforts to protect civilians and human rights and ensure accountability for all actors responsible for war-crimes. A negotiated settlement is the only way to end this war – and still seems as distant as ever. Assad (and his backers) are determined to thwart any process, pursue a total military victory and crush any remaining democratic alternative. Hundreds of Syrians are being killed every week in the most barbaric ways imaginable. Extremist groups and ideologies are thriving in the chaos wrought by the state. Civilians continue to flee in their thousands as legal processes – such as Law No.10 – are implemented to ensure they will never return to their homes. The international system itself is collapsing under the weight of its own impotence. The words ‘Never Again’ ring hollow. There’s no major people’s movement which stands in solidarity with the victims. They are instead slandered, their suffering is mocked or denied, and their voices either absent from discussions or questioned by people far away, who know nothing of Syria, revolution or war, and who arrogantly believe they know what is best. It is this desperate situation which causes many Syrians to welcome the US, UK and France’s action and who now see foreign intervention as their only hope, despite the risks they know it entails.

One thing is for sure – I won’t lose any sleep over targeted strikes aimed at regime military bases and chemical weapons plants which may provide Syrians with a short respite from the daily killing. And I will never see people who place grand narratives over lived realities, who support brutal regimes in far off countries, or who peddle racism, conspiracy theories and atrocity denial, as allies.

https://leilashami.wordpress.com/2018/04/14/the-anti-imperialism-of-idiots/

She may have a point





I like George but he can be very egotistical.
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سيف الله
04-16-2018, 04:07 AM
Salaam

Another update

How Israel Postponed WW3 (inadvertently)



In 2014 Sky owner and media mogul Rupert Murdoch won the ADL Award. The honour was clearly awarded for a reason. On occasion, Sky changes itself into a state propaganda service. The video above shows such an event . Sky crudely cut off the former commander of the British Armed Forces, Jonathan Shaw, as soon as he went ‘off script’ by suggesting that the Syrian regime couldn’t have been behind the Douma gas attack. General Shaw attempted to point out that chemical warfare is a desperate act, not something you would expect from the Assad regime that has basically won.

Before yesterday, I had not believed that America would be foolish enough to lead an attack on Syria. My rationale was simple. The Russians have recently deployed their most sophisticated, yet untested, S-400 air defence system in Syria. The Russian S-400 is designed to intercept America’s 1970’s technology Tomahawk cruise missiles. I thought that it could be a fatal blow to America and to NATO to be in a situation in which many of its Tomahawk Missiles targeting Syria were downed by a Russian anti aircraft system. I was pretty sure that American military leaders wouldn’t take such a risk and certainly not for Israel. I was wrong. America, Britain and France did take that risk. According to the Russians and the Syrians most of the cruise missiles were downed. If Syria and Russia are telling the truth, NATO is an obsolete military joke. Maybe we should actually thank Israel for bringing this all to light.

Israeli press reported last week that in a telephone conversation PM Netanyahu and President Trump grew tense over Trump’s announced intent to withdraw US forces from Syria. We know that Israel has been distressed by Assad’s victory. Israel can’t bear the alliance among Hezbollah, Iran, Assad, Turkey and Russia that is happening on its northern border. Israel has openly announced its refusal to allow Iran to gain momentum in Syria.

Israel wanted to see someone, like the USA and NATO, to get involved in escalating the opposition to Assad. So it is not exactly surprising that that the three countries that were willing to provide what Israel wanted are the three countries notorious for their forceful and hawkish Jewish lobbies. In the USA, AIPAC’s domination of foreign affairs has been the subject of extensive academic research. In Britain 80% of the Tory MPs are members of the belligerent Conservative Friends of Israel and in France the CRIF (Representative Council of Jewish Institutions in France) is known to be the most forceful body in the land.

Earlier this week it seemed as if WW3 might be close. No careful observer of the Middle East could miss that Israel and its supportive pro war lobbies have been, somehow, at the centre of all of it. But now it seems that Israel and its lobbies have pushed America, Britain and France to act against their own national interests. This morning, following the recent criminal, yet futile, attack on Syria it is clear that NATO isn’t exactly a military powerhouse. It is a decaying Zionist tool. It is not ready for a war. For the time being WW3 has been postponed. I guess we can at least be grateful to Israel for that.

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2018/4/14/how-israel-postponed-ww3-inadvertently
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Misbah-Abd
04-16-2018, 10:00 AM
He believes that most of the missiles have been downed because the Russians and Syrians said so. That is the problem with his whole argument.
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سيف الله
04-16-2018, 04:38 PM
Salaam

Another update, more analysis.

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JustTime
04-17-2018, 12:01 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

Another update

How Israel Postponed WW3 (inadvertently)



In 2014 Sky owner and media mogul Rupert Murdoch won the ADL Award. The honour was clearly awarded for a reason. On occasion, Sky changes itself into a state propaganda service. The video above shows such an event . Sky crudely cut off the former commander of the British Armed Forces, Jonathan Shaw, as soon as he went ‘off script’ by suggesting that the Syrian regime couldn’t have been behind the Douma gas attack. General Shaw attempted to point out that chemical warfare is a desperate act, not something you would expect from the Assad regime that has basically won.

Before yesterday, I had not believed that America would be foolish enough to lead an attack on Syria. My rationale was simple. The Russians have recently deployed their most sophisticated, yet untested, S-400 air defence system in Syria. The Russian S-400 is designed to intercept America’s 1970’s technology Tomahawk cruise missiles. I thought that it could be a fatal blow to America and to NATO to be in a situation in which many of its Tomahawk Missiles targeting Syria were downed by a Russian anti aircraft system. I was pretty sure that American military leaders wouldn’t take such a risk and certainly not for Israel. I was wrong. America, Britain and France did take that risk. According to the Russians and the Syrians most of the cruise missiles were downed. If Syria and Russia are telling the truth, NATO is an obsolete military joke. Maybe we should actually thank Israel for bringing this all to light.

Israeli press reported last week that in a telephone conversation PM Netanyahu and President Trump grew tense over Trump’s announced intent to withdraw US forces from Syria. We know that Israel has been distressed by Assad’s victory. Israel can’t bear the alliance among Hezbollah, Iran, Assad, Turkey and Russia that is happening on its northern border. Israel has openly announced its refusal to allow Iran to gain momentum in Syria.

Israel wanted to see someone, like the USA and NATO, to get involved in escalating the opposition to Assad. So it is not exactly surprising that that the three countries that were willing to provide what Israel wanted are the three countries notorious for their forceful and hawkish Jewish lobbies. In the USA, AIPAC’s domination of foreign affairs has been the subject of extensive academic research. In Britain 80% of the Tory MPs are members of the belligerent Conservative Friends of Israel and in France the CRIF (Representative Council of Jewish Institutions in France) is known to be the most forceful body in the land.

Earlier this week it seemed as if WW3 might be close. No careful observer of the Middle East could miss that Israel and its supportive pro war lobbies have been, somehow, at the centre of all of it. But now it seems that Israel and its lobbies have pushed America, Britain and France to act against their own national interests. This morning, following the recent criminal, yet futile, attack on Syria it is clear that NATO isn’t exactly a military powerhouse. It is a decaying Zionist tool. It is not ready for a war. For the time being WW3 has been postponed. I guess we can at least be grateful to Israel for that.

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2018...-inadvertently
Israel is powerless
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JustTime
04-17-2018, 12:54 AM
Just a reminder that Assad isn't the only tyrant in Syria.

Kurdish fighters 'carry out ethnic cleansing' in Syria


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...041944504.html

Yasin Aktay: The PKK is carrying out ethnic cleansing in northern Syria through its offshoot there, the PYD. The group has been doing this with the support of Russia.
The PYD goes to territories where there is no or a small Kurdish population, and works to deport non-Kurdish ethnic population out of these areas.
Aleppo is perhaps the only place where Syrians can still breathe. There is a humanitarian corridor [from Turkey] to Aleppo, allowing people to keep on with their lives in this key city.
If this humanitarian corridor was blocked, which PYD seeks to achieve, people cannot go on with their lives in Aleppo and they will try to take refuge in Turkey, fleeing ethnic cleansing.
Turkey keeps on with its open-door policy, helping people in need. However, Ankara can no longer tolerate such [PYD] activities in Syria, which will create a situation that will make people leave their homes and make Turkey pay the price for it.
At the end of the day, an ethnic group [Kurdish] which has a minor population in Syria is trying to take over a very large part of the country.
Al Jazeera: How do the PKK and PYD collaborate?
Aktay: Following Turkey's offensive on PKK targets in the country, these [PKK] terrorists have began entering Syria and fighting there. They are trying to create a corridor through the Syria-Turkey border. This creates an obvious security risk for our country.
Al Jazeera: Do you think that the PYD is in full co-operation with the Syrian regime?
Aktay: This has been valid since the early days of the Syrian crisis. The Syrian government managed to get the PYD to work for it, despite the fact that Kurds were repressed for decades under the regime there. The PYD is opposed by other Kurdish factions in Syria and among Iraqi Kurds as well. It does not represent the Kurdish people of Syria.The group has always functioned in full co-operation with the Syrian intelligence and always betrayed Kurds while working with the Syrian regime.

Syrian Kurds accused of ethnic cleansing and killing opponents

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ing-opponents/

Syrian groups backed by the West have been accused of driving people into the arms of Isil, executing prisoners and killing hundreds of people in recent inter-factional fighting. The YPG, the Kurdish group being backed both by the United States to fight Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and by the Russians to fight US-supported anti-Assad rebels, is sending civilians into flight with its behaviour, according to a former US ambassador to the country, Robert Ford.

“In some cases, Syrian refugees flee it and don't go towards the Kurdish areas - they run away from them and into Islamic State territory,” Mr Ford told a Senate committee hearing.
He made the accusation at a time when both pro- and anti-regime forces in Syria are fragmenting under the pressure of the seemingly endless conflict.

US-backed Kurdish forces face accusations of abuse amid Isis liberation campaign

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7763956.html

Reports that Arab families fleeing Isis as the battle for the group’s de facto capital of Raqqa intensifies are being detained in what activist group Raqqa is being Silently Slaughtered has labelled Kurdish “concentration camps” have multiplied in recent weeks.
The YPG, and later the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), a mainly Kurdish alliance of rebels, have proven to be the most effective ground force against Isis, earning them long-standing financial and military backing from the US.

Activists living in Sunni-rebel held parts of the north have long claimed innocent Arab men and boys have been rounded up, detained or otherwise abused by YPG soldiers as they advance on Isis-held areas.
While Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International reports from 2014 and 2015 found some evidence that Kurdish forces had violated the rights of other ethnic groups in their territories
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سيف الله
04-17-2018, 10:51 PM
Salaam

Another update

Robert Fisk’s Douma report rips away excuses for air strike on Syria

It seems that many who supported the weekend’s air strikes on Syria are overlooking the significance of Robert Fisk’s report today from Douma, the site of a supposed chemical weapons attack last week.

Fisk is the first western journalist to reach the area and speak to people there. One is a senior doctor at the clinic that treated victims of what a video purported to show were chemical weapons used by the Syrian government. The incident was used as the justifcation for the air strikes launched jointly by the US, the UK and France.

The doctor says the video was real, but did not show the effects of a chemical weapons attack. It showed something else. This is what the doctor is reported saying:

“I was with my family in the basement of my home three hundred metres from here on the night but all the doctors know what happened. There was a lot of shelling [by government forces] and aircraft were always over Douma at night — but on this night, there was wind and huge dust clouds began to come into the basements and cellars where people lived. People began to arrive here suffering from hypoxia, oxygen loss. Then someone at the door, a ‘White Helmet’, shouted ‘Gas!”, and a panic began. People started throwing water over each other. Yes, the video was filmed here, it is genuine, but what you see are people suffering from hypoxia – not gas poisoning.”

On my social media pages there are plenty of armchair warriors furiously denying the importance of this report, by claiming either that the doctor made up the story or that Fisk is a mouthpiece for the Assad regime, or maybe both.

That will not wash for reasons that ought to be obvious – and it still won’t wash even if the testimony later turns out to be wrong.

The air strikes on Syria at the weekend were patently illegal according to international law. That would have been the case even had there been a chemical weapons attack in Douma, in part because it would have been necessary for independent inspectors to determine first whether the Syrian government, and not the jihadists there, was responsible.

The air strikes would have been illegal too, even if it could have been shown that a chemical weapons attack had taken place and that Assad personally ordered it. That is because air strikes would have first required authorisation from the UN Security Council. That is why international law exists: to regulate affairs between states, to prevent militarism of the “might is right” variety that nearly destroyed Europe 80 years ago, and to avoid unnecessary state confrontations that in a nuclear age could have dire repercussions.

Had Assad been shown to be responsible, Russia would have come under enormous international pressure to authorise action of some kind against Syria – pressure it would have been extremely hard for it to resist.

But had it resisted that pressure, we would have had to live with its veto at the Security Council. And again, for very good reason. Israel, the US and the UK have used depleted uranium munitions in the Middle East, and Israel and the US white phosphorous. But who among us would think it reasonable for Russia or China to unilaterally carry out punishment air strikes on Maryland (US), Porton Down (UK) or Nes Ziona (Israel), and justify the move on the grounds that the US and UK could veto any moves against themselves or their allies at the Security Council? Who would want to champion belligerent attacks on these sovereign states as “humanitarian intervention”?

But all of this is irrelevant because whatever incontrovertible information the US, UK and France claimed to have that Syria carried out a chemical weapons attack last week is clearly no more reliable than their claims about an Iraqi WMD programme back in 2002.

Fisk does not need to prove that his account is definitively true – just like a defendant in the dock does not need to prove their innocence. He has to show only that he reported accurately and honestly, and that the testimony he recounted was plausible and consistent with what he saw. Everything about Fisk’s record and about this particular report suggests there should be no doubt on that score.

Fisk’s report shows that there is a highly credible alternative explanation for what happened in Douma – one that needs to be investigated. Which means that an attack on Syria should never have taken place before inspectors were able to investigate and report their findings.

Instead, the US-UK-France launched air strikes hours before the UN inspectors were due to begin their work in Syria, thereby pre-empting it. At the time those air strikes took place, the aggressor states had neither legal nor evidential justification for their actions. They were were simply relying on the reports of parties, like the White Helmets, that have a vested interest in engineering the Syrian government’s downfall.

As is now known beyond doubt, our leaders lied to us about Iraq and about Libya. Some of us have been warning for some time that we should be highly sceptical of everything we are being told by our governments about Syria, until it is verified by independent evidence.

All of us have a moral responsibility to stop simply believing what our governments and their propagandists in the corporate media tell us, whether we have been doing so out of a kneejerk authoritarian impulse or because we have some romantic notion that, despite the evidence, our leaders are always the good guys and their leaders are always the bad guys.

Just consider for a moment the UK’s support for, and involvement in, the horrifying Saudi war against Yemen, or US politicians’ blanket silence on Israel’s massacre of unarmed demonstrators in Gaza. Our leaders have no moral high ground to stand on. Their foreign policy decisions are about oil, defence contracts and geo-strategic interests, not about protecting civilians or fighting just wars.

However bad Assad is, and he is a dictator, he is responsible for far fewer deaths and much less suffering in the Middle East than either George W Bush or Tony Blair.

Former New York Times correspondent Stephen Kinzer sets out a very plausible reason why the US, UK and France keep intervening in Syria. It is not about children or chemical weapons. It is to prevent the Syrian government and Russia triumphing over the jihadists, as they have been close to doing for some time.

These western states are adamantly opposed to allowing a peaceful resolution in Syria, Kinzer observes, because it:

“might allow stability to spread to nearby countries. Today, for the first time in modern history, the governments of Syria, Iraq, Iran and Lebanon are on good terms. A partnership among them could lay the foundation for a new Middle East.

“That new Middle East, however, would not be submissive to the United States-Israel-Saudi Arabia coalition. For that reason, we are determined to prevent it from emerging. Better to keep these countries in misery and conflict, some reason, than to allow them to thrive while they defy the United States. …


“From Washington’s perspective, peace in Syria is the horror scenario. Peace would mean what the United States sees as a ‘win’ for our enemies: Russia, Iran, and the Assad government. We are determined to prevent that, regardless of the human cost.”


https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/robert-fisks-douma-report-rips-away-excuses-for-air-strike-on-syria/
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JustTime
04-17-2018, 11:01 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

Another update

Robert Fisk’s Douma report rips away excuses for air strike on Syria

It seems that many who supported the weekend’s air strikes on Syria are overlooking the significance of Robert Fisk’s report today from Douma, the site of a supposed chemical weapons attack last week.

Fisk is the first western journalist to reach the area and speak to people there. One is a senior doctor at the clinic that treated victims of what a video purported to show were chemical weapons used by the Syrian government. The incident was used as the justifcation for the air strikes launched jointly by the US, the UK and France.

The doctor says the video was real, but did not show the effects of a chemical weapons attack. It showed something else. This is what the doctor is reported saying:

“I was with my family in the basement of my home three hundred metres from here on the night but all the doctors know what happened. There was a lot of shelling [by government forces] and aircraft were always over Douma at night — but on this night, there was wind and huge dust clouds began to come into the basements and cellars where people lived. People began to arrive here suffering from hypoxia, oxygen loss. Then someone at the door, a ‘White Helmet’, shouted ‘Gas!”, and a panic began. People started throwing water over each other. Yes, the video was filmed here, it is genuine, but what you see are people suffering from hypoxia – not gas poisoning.”

On my social media pages there are plenty of armchair warriors furiously denying the importance of this report, by claiming either that the doctor made up the story or that Fisk is a mouthpiece for the Assad regime, or maybe both.

That will not wash for reasons that ought to be obvious – and it still won’t wash even if the testimony later turns out to be wrong.

The air strikes on Syria at the weekend were patently illegal according to international law. That would have been the case even had there been a chemical weapons attack in Douma, in part because it would have been necessary for independent inspectors to determine first whether the Syrian government, and not the jihadists there, was responsible.

The air strikes would have been illegal too, even if it could have been shown that a chemical weapons attack had taken place and that Assad personally ordered it. That is because air strikes would have first required authorisation from the UN Security Council. That is why international law exists: to regulate affairs between states, to prevent militarism of the “might is right” variety that nearly destroyed Europe 80 years ago, and to avoid unnecessary state confrontations that in a nuclear age could have dire repercussions.

Had Assad been shown to be responsible, Russia would have come under enormous international pressure to authorise action of some kind against Syria – pressure it would have been extremely hard for it to resist.

But had it resisted that pressure, we would have had to live with its veto at the Security Council. And again, for very good reason. Israel, the US and the UK have used depleted uranium munitions in the Middle East, and Israel and the US white phosphorous. But who among us would think it reasonable for Russia or China to unilaterally carry out punishment air strikes on Maryland (US), Porton Down (UK) or Nes Ziona (Israel), and justify the move on the grounds that the US and UK could veto any moves against themselves or their allies at the Security Council? Who would want to champion belligerent attacks on these sovereign states as “humanitarian intervention”?

But all of this is irrelevant because whatever incontrovertible information the US, UK and France claimed to have that Syria carried out a chemical weapons attack last week is clearly no more reliable than their claims about an Iraqi WMD programme back in 2002.

Fisk does not need to prove that his account is definitively true – just like a defendant in the dock does not need to prove their innocence. He has to show only that he reported accurately and honestly, and that the testimony he recounted was plausible and consistent with what he saw. Everything about Fisk’s record and about this particular report suggests there should be no doubt on that score.

Fisk’s report shows that there is a highly credible alternative explanation for what happened in Douma – one that needs to be investigated. Which means that an attack on Syria should never have taken place before inspectors were able to investigate and report their findings.

Instead, the US-UK-France launched air strikes hours before the UN inspectors were due to begin their work in Syria, thereby pre-empting it. At the time those air strikes took place, the aggressor states had neither legal nor evidential justification for their actions. They were were simply relying on the reports of parties, like the White Helmets, that have a vested interest in engineering the Syrian government’s downfall.

As is now known beyond doubt, our leaders lied to us about Iraq and about Libya. Some of us have been warning for some time that we should be highly sceptical of everything we are being told by our governments about Syria, until it is verified by independent evidence.

All of us have a moral responsibility to stop simply believing what our governments and their propagandists in the corporate media tell us, whether we have been doing so out of a kneejerk authoritarian impulse or because we have some romantic notion that, despite the evidence, our leaders are always the good guys and their leaders are always the bad guys.

Just consider for a moment the UK’s support for, and involvement in, the horrifying Saudi war against Yemen, or US politicians’ blanket silence on Israel’s massacre of unarmed demonstrators in Gaza. Our leaders have no moral high ground to stand on. Their foreign policy decisions are about oil, defence contracts and geo-strategic interests, not about protecting civilians or fighting just wars.

However bad Assad is, and he is a dictator, he is responsible for far fewer deaths and much less suffering in the Middle East than either George W Bush or Tony Blair.

Former New York Times correspondent Stephen Kinzer sets out a very plausible reason why the US, UK and France keep intervening in Syria. It is not about children or chemical weapons. It is to prevent the Syrian government and Russia triumphing over the jihadists, as they have been close to doing for some time.

These western states are adamantly opposed to allowing a peaceful resolution in Syria, Kinzer observes, because it:

“might allow stability to spread to nearby countries. Today, for the first time in modern history, the governments of Syria, Iraq, Iran and Lebanon are on good terms. A partnership among them could lay the foundation for a new Middle East.

“That new Middle East, however, would not be submissive to the United States-Israel-Saudi Arabia coalition. For that reason, we are determined to prevent it from emerging. Better to keep these countries in misery and conflict, some reason, than to allow them to thrive while they defy the United States. …


“From Washington’s perspective, peace in Syria is the horror scenario. Peace would mean what the United States sees as a ‘win’ for our enemies: Russia, Iran, and the Assad government. We are determined to prevent that, regardless of the human cost.”


https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/robert...rike-on-syria/
What is wrong with you, it doesn't matter if Assad used chemical weapons or not, though he did. It matters what he does and what he does it for the sake for, he is a Nusayri that is determined on gathering all the enemies of Islam together to kill Muslims, and thus he should be fought and punished as should his allies, I personally don't care who carried out these airstrikes even if the Iranians themselves did it I would still praise it even if it was an accident, because we should praise what harshness Allah has destined to punish the guilty, on that night Bashar was enraged, filled with fear, and endured agony like so many of his victims and I sincerely ask Allah to humiliate him before, he (Allah) relieves us of him.

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May Allah put a horrible, harsh, agonizing curse upon them, and all of their decedents until the final honor
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سيف الله
04-17-2018, 11:05 PM
Salaam

Another update

A 10-Minute Trial, a Death Sentence:

Iraqi Justice for ISIS Suspects


BAGHDAD — The 42-year-old housewife had two minutes to defend herself against charges of supporting the Islamic State.

Amina Hassan, a Turkish woman in a flowing black abaya, told the Iraqi judge that she and her family had entered Syria and Iraq illegally and lived in the Islamic State’s so-called caliphate for more than two years. But, she added: “I never took money from Islamic State. I brought my own money from Turkey.”

The whole trial lasted 10 minutes before the judge sentenced her to death by hanging.

Another accused Turkish woman entered the courtroom. Then another, and another.

Within two hours, 14 women had been tried, convicted and sentenced to die.

Iraq’s judicial assembly line has relentlessly churned out terrorism convictions since the battlefield victories over the Islamic State last year led to the capture of thousands of fighters, functionaries and family members. Authorities accuse them of helping to prop up the group’s vicious three-year rule over nearly a third of the country.

As millions of Iraqis struggle to recover from the bloodshed and destruction of the period, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has found widespread public support for his push to step up the pace of prosecutions — and for punishments to the full extent of the law, which in Iraq means execution.

“These Islamic State criminals committed crimes against humanity and against our people in Iraq, in Mosul and Salahuddin and Anbar, everywhere,” said Gen. Yahya Rasool, the spokesman for the Iraqi joint operations command. “To be loyal to the blood of the victims and to be loyal to the Iraqi people, criminals must receive the death penalty, a punishment that would deter them and those who sympathize with them.”

But critics say the perfunctory trials in special counterterrorism courts are sweeping up bystanders and relatives as well as fighters, and executing most of them in a process more concerned with retribution than justice.

The office for the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights warned that flaws in the judicial process would most likely lead to “irreversible miscarriages” of justice.

Human Rights Watch has criticized Iraq for relying on an overly broad law to quickly achieve the maximum punishment of the most people.

The nation’s counterterrorism law allows the death penalty for anyone “who commits, incites, plans, finances or assists in acts of terrorism.” So Iraqi courts are meting out one-size-fits-all punishment for the perpetrator of crimes against humanity as well for as the wife of an Islamic State fighter who may have had little say in her husband’s career.

“Individual circumstances don’t matter,” said Belkis Wille, the senior researcher for Iraq for Human Rights Watch. “Cooks, medical workers, everyone is given the death penalty.”

The low bar for conviction under the law, she said, also means that the courts are not bothering to investigate some of the worst crimes believed to have been committed by Islamic State members, such as slavery, rape or extrajudicial killings.

Iraq’s Justice Ministry rejects such criticism and touts the integrity of its judges and its standards of due process. “If there is evidence then suspects are prosecuted, and if there is no evidence then they are released,” said Abdul-Sattar al-Birqdar, a judge and Justice Ministry spokesman.

The government has not released statistics about its terrorism detainees, but two people familiar with the court who were not authorized to speak to journalists said that approximately 13,000 people had been detained on suspicion of ties to the Islamic State since 2017, when the vast majority of arrests were made.

Human Rights Watch estimated in December that at least 20,000 people accused of ties to the Islamic State were being held by the Iraqi authorities. Last month, The Associated Press reported that Iraq had detained or imprisoned at least 19,000 people since 2014 on accusations of connections to the Islamic State or other terrorism-related offenses.

Many of these detainees were arrested on the battlefield. Some were detained far from combat, based on information gleaned from informers and prison interrogations.

Iraqi intelligence officials say that high-value detainees, people accused of involvement in specific terrorist attacks, are held separately from the majority of prisoners, who are suspected of having been low-level cogs in the Islamic State bureaucracy.

Since the summer of 2017, more than 10,000 cases have been referred to the courts, the people familiar with the court said. To date, they said, approximately 2,900 trials have been completed, with a conviction rate of about 98 percent.

They did not say how many had received the death penalty, nor how many executions had been carried out.

The government said 11 people were executed on Monday for “terrorism crimes,” fulfilling “the government’s promise to kill those responsible for shedding Iraqi blood,” the Justice Ministry said in a statement.

Among those held apart from the general prison population are approximately 1,350 foreign women and 580 children, the majority of whom surrendered to Iraqi security forces last August during military operations to liberate the town of Tal Afar. The vast majority of these detainees are Turkish, Russian and Central Asian.

Iraq says it is determined to try them if evidence links them to the Islamic State, but some of their home countries, including Saudi Arabia, have requested extradition for some of their citizens. Other countries, like Britain and France, have been reluctant to take their citizens back, officials from both countries said.

In rare cases, individuals have been returned to their home countries, such as a group of four Russian women and 27 children in February, after Iraqi authorities concluded they had been tricked into coming to Islamic State territory. Turkey has been working to repatriate minors whose parents took them to the caliphate, as well as those found innocent of wrongdoing.

For a nation that for more than 15 years has been an incubator for Islamist extremists and has been torn apart by terrorist bombings, Iraqis have little appetite for leniency or concern about mitigating circumstances that in other nations could be grounds for clemency. Foreigners in particular are widely assumed to have been the Islamic State’s most fervent adherents since they moved here to join the caliphate.

“What concerns me the most in these trials is that the system is fundamentally prejudiced against foreign individuals,” said Ms. Wille, who has observed dozens of terrorism trials. “The presumption is because you are foreign, and you were in ISIS territory, there is no need to provide more evidence.”

The 14 women convicted in one afternoon this month, 12 Turks and two Azerbaijanis ranging from 20 to 44 years old, had lived in Raqqa, the former capital of the group’s territory in Syria. When international airstrikes escalated there and several of their husbands were killed, they moved to Iraq and were among those who surrendered outside Tal Afar.

Gaunt, withdrawn and surrounded by plainclothes security guards, they waited in the florescent-lit hallways of Baghdad’s counterterrorism court for their trials to start. Eleven toddlers who had spent the last eight months in detention with their mothers accompanied them to the court.

When Ms. Hassan was called, she handed her child to another detainee to look after. The other women cooed and hummed to try to placate her curly-haired toddler. Some appeared to whisper prayers.

Their state-appointed lawyer, Ali Sultan, said he had not prepared for the trials. He said he had no access to the evidence against his clients because information related to terrorism investigations is classified.

He added that his pay — $25 regardless of whether the case goes to appeal — hardly encourages much effort. The fee is paid only after the final appeal is exhausted or the client is executed which, despite the push to expedite trials, can take months if not years.

After Ms. Hassan was sentenced by Judge Ahmed al-Ameri, he swiftly dispensed with the rest of the docket.

Negar Mohammed told him that she was innocent of all Islamic State crimes; he ruled otherwise.

Nazli Ismail told the judge that her husband pushed her family to go to Syria. Three of her children were killed in an airstrike, she said. The only one to survive was her youngest, a 2-year-old boy named Yahya, who was waiting outside in the hallway.

Judge Ameri asked, “Are you innocent or guilty?”

“I’m innocent,” Ms. Ismail replied.

The judge sentenced her to death.

Ms. Ismail accepted her fate with a smile. “This means I will finally go to heaven,” she said.

Mother and child left the courthouse under armed guard. It was unclear what would happen to the child.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/world/middleeast/iraq-isis-trials.html#click=https://t.co/norKCF3jdo
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سيف الله
04-18-2018, 07:41 AM
Salaam

Another update

Syria: US in talks over Arab force to replace American troops

Problematic proposal is backed by national security adviser John Bolton but could worsen conflict


The Trump administration is renewing an effort to replace US troops in Syria with an Arab force, but the proposal faces substantial obstacles and could potentially exacerbate the conflict.

The Saudi foreign minister, Adel al-Jubeir, said his government was talking to Washington about raising such a force, confirming a report in the Wall Street Journal that said the new US national security adviser, John Bolton, had called the Egyptian intelligence chief, Abbas Kamel, to ask Cairo to play a part in building one.

There are about 2,000 US troops in Syria fighting Islamic State, but Donald Trump has repeatedly expressed a desire to withdraw them.

The idea of an Arab coalition force playing a role in Syria to combat extremist groups and contain Iranian influence has surfaced several times since 2015, but faces severe problems. Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates are bogged down in a brutal war in Yemen, and have little manpower and few military resources to spare.

They are also locked in a dispute with Qatar, another potential contributor to a force, while Egypt is much closer to the regime of Bashar al-Assad in Syria than its would-be Gulf partners.

Middle East experts said it was feasible Arab states could fund an army run by private contractors and possibly help recruit soldiers from developing countries such as Sudan. Erik Prince, a Trump ally who founded the military contractor Blackwater USA and now advises the UAE, is lobbying to play a role, according to the Wall Street Journal.

A similar offer he made last year to replace US troops with private contractors in Afghanistan was turned down by the Pentagon.

But Prince may have more traction in the White House over Syria. Bolton has argued that the US has borne too much of the military burden in Syria and Arab states should supply troops and material assistance in the fight against Isis.

Meanwhile, the Saudi monarchy and its regional allies are uneasy that events on the ground in Syria are being dictated by external powers, none of which are Arab.

Emile Hokayem, the senior fellow for Middle East security at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, said: “The idea of an Arab expeditionary force emerges every couple of years, and it’s always seen as a politically brilliant idea to create a sense of ownership in the region.

“In reality, the politics of putting a force like that together are almost impossible.

“The question is, have the Saudis consulted the other countries before speaking on their behalf? The Saudis thought Egypt and Pakistan would come to help Yemen and they didn’t.”

The Saudi crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, has launched an Islamic military counter-terrorism coalition, which held its first high-level meeting last year, but it has not appeared to be intended for combat.

Charles Lister, the director of the extremism and counter-terrorism programme at the Middle East Institute (MEI), attended the inaugural conference and said the force is intended for training and assistance programmes, rather than combat operations.

Lister said there was “no precedent” for an Arab expeditionary force in Syria.

“It sounds like the Saudis are continuing to align themselves with President Trump and not speaking the 100% truth about their intent,” he said.

Any Saudi troops deployed to Syria would find themselves directly confronting Iranian fighters and their allies, which could prompt a dangerous escalation in the conflict.

Randa Slim, who directs the back-channel Track II diplomacy programme at MEI said: “It is one thing for the Saudis to pay for other ‘Islamic forces’ to do the job, and a totally different thing to send their men to a conflict theatre where they are bound to enter into direct confrontation with an entrenched Iranian-Hezbollah force.

“The other factor to consider is what is Turkey’s response to this proposal. I do not see Ankara welcoming the positions of Egyptian and/or Emirati forces on its border,” Slim said.

The Obama administration also looked at the possibility of Arab allies deploying counter-terrorist forces against Isis in Syria, but Saudi Arabia and the UAE were drawn into the battle for Yemen against Iranian-backed Houthi rebels.

Nicholas Heras, a fellow at the Center for a New American Security, said: “They preferred to send intelligence officers and money, rather than put troops on the ground.

“But for the Saudis, the trouble is their territory is being breached by Houthis every day. It doesn’t make sense for them to shift their ground forces when they have trouble securing their own border.”

Heras said it was more likely Saudi Arabia would seek to outsource recruitment to countries such as Pakistan and Sudan. “I’m sure the Saudis are up for fighting in Syria to the very last Sudanese soldier,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/18/us-syria-arab-force-replace-american-troops-saudi-arabia-egypt-uae
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سيف الله
04-19-2018, 09:43 PM
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Another update



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More analysis



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سيف الله
04-20-2018, 09:58 PM
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More comment and analysis.

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سيف الله
04-21-2018, 08:59 AM
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The air war continues

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سيف الله
04-21-2018, 09:44 PM
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Another update

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سيف الله
04-22-2018, 05:56 PM
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Another update. Conflict in Syria is evolving.

Syria and the beginning of a new Cold War

Russia and the West are transferring their increasingly hostile confrontation to Syria.


Recent US-led coalition strikes in response to an alleged chemical attack in Douma, a suburb of Damascus, had Western analysts hoping for a tectonic change in Washington's policy on Syria. Russia, on the other hand, was fearful that its previously unchecked influence in the battlefield was coming to an end.

The results of the joint US, UK and French strikes on three suspected chemical facilities were ultimately underwhelming and are unlikely to serve as a deterrent against the further use of chemical weapons by Bashar al-Assad's regime.

That is not to say that US President Donald Trump blinked in the face of possible escalation with Russia. Just two months earlier, US warplanes attacked a pro-regime force in Deir Az-Zor, reportedly killing dozens of Russian mercenaries; the Russian government took days to acknowledge the attack and did not launch a military response.

While the April 14 strikes had limited effect on the ground, they did symbolically challenge the dominance of the Russian military in Syria. What is more important, they succeeded in transforming the conflict into a struggle between great powers. As rhetorical tension escalated before the strikes, UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres himself pointed that out: "The Cold War is back with a vengeance," he said.

Events of the past few months, indeed, have shown that the conflict in Syria has gradually assumed the character of a Cold War-style struggle. Just like during the Cold War of the 20th century, today, positive diplomatic engagement between Russia and the US has been reduced to communication and coordination to avoid direct military confrontation. In this sense, instead of political diplomacy leading the way in bilateral relations, it is the US and Russian militaries that have now taken charge and are in constant contact, coordinating de-confliction and de-escalation.

Militaries dominating diplomacy

That the April 14 Western strikes on Syria did not result in a decisive military operation by the US and its partners against Assad's military facilities, and possibly Iranian-backed forces, was not surprising if one was to look at the conflict from a Cold-War perspective.

In the days of the Cold War, tensions would build up very quickly, but would also drop unexpectedly. The Cuban Missile Crisis - the closest that the US and the Soviet Union came to an all-out nuclear war - is a case in point. Within 13 days, rhetoric escalated to threats of pre-emptive attacks, as both sides put their armies on high alert, only to quickly negotiate a de-escalation agreement to remove threatening missile installations. At least on two occasions, civilian and military leadership on both sides chose not to respond to provocations, eventually ending the episode with just one victim - the pilot of a US U-2 reconnaissance plane shot down by the Cubans.

In Syria today, the military brass of both countries treads carefully hoping to let off steam, despite Washington's promises of using "nice and new and smart missiles" and Moscow's threats of a swift retaliation. The heated political rhetoric coming from both capitals that all too often slides into blunt threats does not match the reality of how the military establishment handles the crisis.

What we are witnessing in Syria is a disconnect between the political and military dimensions of policymaking, as sabre-rattling has become a preferred mode of communication for diplomats, while the military has become the voice of pragmatism and sanity. Political hostility on both sides has resulted in an enormous vacuum in US-Russia relations which has been filled partially by their militaries. They have seemingly maintained the only functioning platform for dialogue to avoid confrontation.

A new front for Western confrontation with Russia

What makes the current crisis more explosive than any previous episode of diplomatic squabbles over Syria is the fact that it is now firmly linked to diplomatic confrontation between Russia and the West on other fronts.

This is evident in the decision of both France and the UK to participate in the US strikes on the Syrian regime. Despite what British PM Theresa May and French PM Emmanuel Macron said about the military strikes aiming to send a strong message against the use of chemical weapons, this is not why Paris and London joined Washington in its operation.

Recently, diplomatic tensions between the UK and Russia escalated after the poisoning of a former Russian spy and his daughter in Salisbury. The expulsion of diplomats on both sides came as the climax of years of escalating diplomatic confrontation between the two countries.

French-Russian relations have also soured in recent years. Macron has not shied away from demonstrating just how upset he was by what he perceived as Russian meddling in the 2017 French elections that brought him to power. During Russian President Vladimir Putin's visit to Paris, just days after the vote, Macron blasted Russian media for their reporting on France and called it "propaganda".

From the Kremlin's perspective, France and the UK are becoming more involved in Syria so that they channel their confrontation with Russia away from home. The idea is to have the pressure building up along the NATO's northeastern border released elsewhere, in the relative "safety" of what is wrongly perceived in Europe as a faraway conflict. For Moscow, its struggle against the growing influence of NATO at its borders was at the heart of its concerns during the Cold War.

Syria as a Cold War-era Germany

Moscow and Washington have come to realise that Syria is the most convenient place to make a point to each other. Neither Trump, nor Putin wants a military showdown in Syria, but with the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) almost entirely defeated in Syria, the anti-terror campaign no longer produces the same political benefits as it used to just a year ago.

Moscow and Washington have lived off of the PR effects of their anti-terrorist campaigns in Syria long enough to understand that a lengthy process of political settlement of this conflict would not be as glorious as declarations of victory over ISIL.

With anti-terror rhetoric exhausted, Syria has become hostage to a great power rivalry. Russia and the US will continue to seek maximisation of the returns on their investments in the Syrian crisis and will continue to play off their diplomatic confrontations on its territory.

Therefore, it is not inconceivable that Syria will take the role of Cold War-era Germany. It is likely that the two great powers, along with their allies, will use the country to set up new rules of the Cold War game and new red lines. The East-West-Germany divide devised by Moscow and Washington after World War II may get a whole new meaning in the Syrian context.

In this sense, the global diplomatic confrontation between Russia and the US will not bode well for Syria and its people. Just as the Cold War propagated proxy wars across the world, ignoring self-determination rights of various peoples, so is this diplomatic conflict likely to deny the Syrian people the right to choose their own destiny.

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/syria-beginning-cold-war-180422075430047.html
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سيف الله
04-22-2018, 08:47 PM
Salaam

More opinion and comment. I don't entirely agree with this (eg. western intervention is not there to help the people of Syria) but worth a read nevertheless.

Some activists have lost their moral compass with respect to Syria

I know what you are thinking: why should I read for someone who has been tortured by the Assad regime? Isn’t his opinion biased? And doesn’t his grudge against Assad prevent him from seeing the reality on the ground, as it is? If you are one of those people, please stop right here as my words won’t make a difference to your ears.

But if you are ready to read my words with an open mind then continue reading, and hopefully you will learn one thing or two.

And by the way, to the disappointment of many, my Op-Ed will not only speak to the mind but also to the heart. And because of this, I will not include any references as I find them distracting to you, the reader. Contact me on Twitter (@ArarMaher) and I will be more than happy to provide you with references.

I have been watching the Twitter debate over Syria dramatically evolve for the past five years. And nothing more appalled me than the position taken by many who consider themselves to be on the left side of the political spectrum. Those include Rania Khalek, Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton, to name few. I used to have a lot for respect for them, that is until they lost their moral compass with respect Syria (just read their tweets on Palestine and Syria to find out for yourself the huge contradictions).

I tried my best within the last few weeks to engage some of those activists on Twitter but, unfortunately, I didn’t find any willingness on their part to debate the issue. In fact, I was blocked by Rania Khalek immediately after my defence of Murtaza Hussein’s balanced reporting on Syria. I found it inappropriate for her to mock a colleague and as such could no longer stay silent.

I now came to the conclusion that the inconsistency of positions taken by these activists and their cult-like stubbornness make them look closer to religious zealots than to people who are seeking the truth.

I had decided to not confront these people early on because I naively thought their position would self correct as time went by. But I was wrong as the exact opposite happened: these people- many of whom consider themselves as journalists- have become apologists for the Assad regime. They may not agree with me on this but whether they like or not their selective reporting and bias show easily in their articles and tweets.

In fact, many have even gone lower by mocking the victims of Assad’s atrocities and implicitly, or sometimes explicitly, covering up his wholesale crimes and atrocities. And that explains why, contrary to my old habit of not mentioning names, I started naming names in my tweets. That also explains why I went out of my way to write this Op-Ed, despite having made the decision to lead a private life. Consider this a harsh reaction, but for me nothing is harsher than siding with a dictator who is responsible for the majority of the misery, destruction and deaths of his own people.

Now to the facts.

One has first to acknowledge the spontaneous nature of many uprisings in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA). What happened in Tunisia and Syria, for example, were spontaneous and understandable reactions by people who have been ruled with an iron-first for decades.

In Syria, under-age kids have been arrested by the Assad regime after spray painting anti-regime slogans (as far as I know those kids didn’t receive these “spray guns” from foreign powers).

What was the reaction of Assad’s Mukhabarat? Predictably, these kids were detained, tortured, and some were returned to their mothers in body bags. And when the families of those boys inquired about the fate of their loved ones they were told to forget about them. When they persisted they were told “bring us your wives and we will make you new boys”. You are smart enough to understand what this expression means.

Now, I want you to consider this: what would your reaction and feelings be as a parent if this was done to your son or daughter?

Despite the horrible atrocities carried out by the regime against peaceful protestors, the uprising, by all credible accounts, remained peaceful for months to come. Isolated incidents of shootings here and there should not distract us from the fact the majority of Syrians never thought about carrying arms to begin with. In fact, Syrians didn’t even call for the downfall of the regime during the early weeks of the uprising. They simply demanded that Assad punishes those who tortured the boys.

Assad could have of course punished the perpetrators for their crimes in order to quiet the people but, alas, a regime whose main pillar is the rule of the powerful doesn’t think like you and me.

Nothing best illustrates how the Assad regime thinks and acts than this story that was related to me directly by a 60-year old man who was imprisoned in Sednaya during the time I was there. And by the way, this gentleman was part of a 11-member group who was detained simply because him and his group demonstrated against the US invasion of Iraq without explicit permission from the government. This is the same group that Giath Matar, the famous peaceful activist whom the regime tortured and then cut his throat in September 2011, would later join.

This elder told me that while being interrogated by a high-ranking intelligence official he tried to reason with him by asking him “why don’t you treat citizens with honour and respect”. This Colonel replied “we want to rule people by the shoes”, a famous Syrian expression that signifies the use of force and humiliation as a tool to subdue the citizenry.

Have you ever watched any of Assad’s interviews? Does he seem like a person who wants to compromise in order to save the country? Didn’t he always refer to ALL of his opponents as terrorists, and he still does? So, instead of putting the onus on his opponents, however fragmented and divided they are, to lay down their arms, why not put the blame on Assad who has always held the key to end this bloodshed much earlier? If Assad really wanted peace, he could have called for elections years ago while immediately excluding his name from the ballot. Is that much to ask to end the bloodshed?

To demonstrate how Assad exploited and manipulated the word “terrorist”, he has always labeled the Muslim Brotherhood as “terrorists”. Well, journalists failed to ask him why he then had supported Hamas and hosted their leadership knowing fully well that Hamas was a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood! What is very disturbing is that the activists mentioned above now liberally use these same meaningless labels (terrorists, extremists, fanatics, etc) to describe Assad’s opponents. This is ironic, and laughable indeed, given these same activists have spent a good part of their career mocking the use of these labels when used by the “empire”.

Are Assad opponents angels? No they are not. Have some of them committed war crimes. Yes you bet, according to many credible reports. Do all people in Syria oppose Assad? Not at all, especially when you know the minority he belongs to – the majority of whom support him- forms 10% of Syrians. Do all Syrians support the rebels? No they don’t. Do some vetted rebels receive weapons from the US, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Of course they do. To say otherwise is to deny the obvious.

On the other side of the coin, it is equally deceiving to label all of Assad’s opponents as “Islamists”, “Al-Qaeda”, “extremists” or “terrorists”. To do so is to imitate Assad himself as to shield himself from accountability and to justify his reckless campaign of killing and destruction. It is also important to listen to how the majority of Syrians opposing Assad view these groups. What matters most is their opinions and not ours, Westerners living in comfort and peace thousands of miles away from the conflict.

On the question of intervention

These “anti-imperialist” activists have to be credited for opposing and standing up to America’s militaristic adventures abroad. Without their commendable effort the world would have been much worse today.

The problem I have is that the parallels many of them draw with respect to Syria are completely misplaced. Also, there is this assumption that intervention is always unjustifiable. I do agree that intervention for pure selfish reasons are bad but intervention can serve a good purpose when done for the right humanitarian reasons.

Also, indifference and non-intervention could, at times, have worse disastrous outcomes. One can only cite Rwanda where non-intervention had a disastrous outcome. After all, one cannot deny that Hitler could have not been stopped without the intervention of other countries, though many of these countries had different reasons for opposing him.

Don’t understand me wrong. I am by no means calling for a military intervention against Assad. I am just mentioning this to counter the idea that intervention doesn’t by itself lead to an evil or worse outcome, as religiously advocated by many of these activists. Unfortunately, many of their followers and readers take the same stand without any critical thinking or self reflection.

And by the way, intervention doesn’t have to come in a military form, or be proactive. Also, it doesn’t have to be lead by the US, an imperial power. It could be carried out by countries that have no imperial past. The aim here is to minimize the bloodshed most of which has been attributed to Assad’s indiscriminate aerial bombing.

It is also important to remind these people that the US has already intervened in Syria. An independent observer can also question why is Russia allowed to intervene with no objections raised by these same activists? Or said differently, are Russian bombs much smarter than their American sisters! Or are we to be told that Russia and Iran have no imperial ambitions in the Middle East!

Anti-imperialism is a tool and not an end. It is simply a mean to an end, the end being to fight injustice, greed and the unfair distribution of wealth. When anti-imperialism becomes an objective on its own, without carefully considering each context differently, then an opposite outcome might arise, one that is incompatible with the one it was supposed to serve.

In what follows I would like to highlight many of the moral contradictions these activists have gotten themselves into.

Yemen and Syria

Nothing shows the inconsistent position of these activists than the war in Yemen. Saudi Arabia entered the war after Hadi, the legitimate president of Yemen, was ousted by the Houthi rebels. Saudi Arabia, at least that’s what the government claims, is there to help restore stability by restoring the legitimate president of Yemen.

Russia’s presence in Syria is to help maintain Assad’s rule, which Russia views as the legitimate president of Syria.

As you can see both of those claims are similar in nature yet these activists (Ben Norton doesn’t even qualify what’s happening in Yemen as a civil war) side with Russia on Syria while siding against Saudi Arabia in Yemen. Both Saudi Arabia and Russia have committed war crimes, yet only Saudi Arabia’s crimes are magnified and highlighted while those perpetrated by Russia are ignored or minimized, explicitly or implicitly.

It seems to me that the identity of the “imperial” evil force, rather than the principle being violated, is what matters to these activists.

Iraq

One reason that is frequently cited for opposing “imperialism” in Syria is the Iraq experience. Citing Iraq as a precedent is misleading, and naive at best.

There was no popular uprising when Iraq was invaded. And the context is different, suffice to say that evidence was manufactured in order to fit a post-911 narrative.

With respect to the question of changing the regime: As opposed to George Bush’s administration, the current American administration did not seek regime change Syria, contrary to claims made by these activists.

If the US wanted to get rid of Assad, Obama could have ordered drone strikes against him (please don’t tell me the US cares about international law). After all, US troops actively searched for, and eventually captured, Saddam Hussein. Not a single attempt was made to assassinate or capture Assad, or any of his senior officials for that matter. The US presence in Syria is mainly to fight ISIS and like-minded groups. To say otherwise is to neglect the immense number of airstrikes (45, 000 and counting) that have so far only targeted IS and Al-Qaeda.

The claim that the US government both finance Al-Qaeda and drone them at the same time is laughable, unless we are asked to believe 2+2=5 (I recommend you watch that famous YouTube video if you haven’t yet).

Knowing that the US is not really interested in changing the Assad regime shows the ridiculous claim with respect to the notion that Syria’s conflict could trigger a world war III, a false fear mongering argument that only serves the Assad’s dictatorial and criminal regime.

I wrote this Op-Ed not for those who have already convinced themselves that what is happening in Syria is part of a pure foreign plot, and that those groups fighting Assad are simply remote-controlled pawns.

I wrote this Op-Ed for those people who are still confused by the disinformation campaign many of these so called “anti-imperialist” activists embarked on to discredit the struggle of the Syrian people. Please know that the Syrian conflict has no simple solutions or answers, and don’t fool yourself by resorting to conspiracy theories to find digestible explanations.

If you are still confused after reading my Op-Ed, one thing I would ask you to do is to simply not side with a dictator, or justify his crimes directly or indirectly, explicitly or implicitly. Don’t feel forced to take a position one way or the other. In other words, you can still resist imperialism while not siding with a vicious dictator. That is the least acceptable moral position one could take.

Despite its shortcomings, the Syrian struggle for dignity and freedom has already demonstrated that the Syrian people don’t forget. I know you might think I am naive. But let me tell you this: I would rather be remembered by future generations as a naive person rather than as someone who has sided with a criminal and a fascist regime.

https://hummusforthought.com/2018/04/22/some-activists-have-lost-their-moral-compass-with-respect-to-syria/
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سيف الله
04-22-2018, 11:53 PM
Salaam

Another update

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JustTime
04-23-2018, 01:06 AM
Arab countries to support Rojava is stupid, Kurds hate Arabs, Arabs should wake up and dump these morons
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سيف الله
04-23-2018, 11:23 AM
Salaam

Another update

Fate of Syria’s Idlib being decided behind closed doors

What happens to the largest rebel stronghold will ultimately be in the hands of Russia and Turkey


Beirut: The fate of Syria’s Idlib will depend on Turkey’s ability to keep a lid on the rebel-dominated tinderbox and prevent an explosive Russian-backed government offensive on its doorstep, analysts say. Largely outside government control since 2015, the northwestern province is home to some 2.5 million people, including many rebels from other areas who were evacuated there after being defeated by government forces.

President Bashar Al Assad’s fiercest foes are being gathered in Idlib, and there would be great temptation for Russia to green light a regime offensive on the province,” Syria expert Nicholas Heras said.

But “Turkey needs Idlib to serve as a buffer against the war,” said Heras, a fellow at the Centre for a New American Security.

The war in Syria has killed more than half a million people and displaced more than half the population from their homes, including more than three million to neighbouring Turkey. Already overwhelmed, Ankara is determined to prevent more Syrians from crossing into its territory and even says it wants to create conditions for mass refugee returns.

“Turkey needs Idlib to serve as a buffer against the war. If Al Assad tried to seize Idlib, at a bare minimum hundreds of thousands of people would be displaced, and they would have few places to run to,” Heras said.

The incentive is clear for Turkey to prevent the chaos that would result from a regime assault but to do so it will have to rein in powerful rebels in the province. Hayat Tahrir Al Sham (HTS), a group led by Al Qaida’s former Syrian affiliate, has faced military setbacks in Idlib in recent months. But unless Ankara decides otherwise, analysts say, the group will probably retain influence in the province where a myriad of rebels groups have vied for power since 2015. Since the start of the year, HTS has lost dozens of areas to a government offensive in the southeast of the province.

In the meantime, former allies Ahrar Al Sham and Noor Al Deen Al Zinki banded together against HTS to form the Turkey-backed Syria Liberation Front. The new group a few weeks ago launched an assault against the alliance’s positions, taking back several areas including the towns of Ariha and Maaret Al Numan.

Syria analyst Haid Haid says recent territorial losses have dented HTS’s standing.

They have “broken its military aura” as “a power that cannot be vanquished, which had helped it scare off the other factions”, said the research fellow at King’s College London. But even as HTS control of Idlib has dwindled to around 60 per cent of the province, it has retained control other key sources of political and economic power. Sam Heller, an analyst at the International Crisis Group, said HTS still holds key assets in the province.

“It lost areas in the southern countryside of Idlib but it retained the Bab Al Hawa border crossing (with Turkey) and control over the provincial capital Idlib city,” he said.

A civilian body that acts in the rebelgroup’s interests levies taxes from shopkeepers, and has tried to impose its will on local councils in the province. Heras said HTS “retains a social organising power that effectively makes it a first among equals in the opposition governance”.

“Unless Turkey wills it and devotes the military resources to combat Hayat Tahrir Al Sham, the other armed opposition groups in Idlib will not win,” he said.

Since January, Turkish troops have deployed to three observation posts in Idlib province to monitor a so-called “de-escalation zone” agreed in September by Turkey, Russia and Iran. The de-escalation is essentially a dead letter and while Russia has no forces on the ground in Idlib, its fighter jets have struck targets in support of regime forces, as they have elsewhere in Syria. The province, with its explosive cocktail of competing armed groups, is about to become the latest scene of the face-off between the two most powerful brokers in the Syrian conflict.

“Idlib is a contest between Russia and Turkey,” said Heras, who argued the deciding factor would be Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erogan’s “determination to stare down” his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin.

Heller agreed that Idlib’s fate would likely be determined by the international powers involved in Syria’s conflict.

“The province’s fate will depend on what Turkish-Russian agreements are made behind the scenes,” he said.

https://gulfnews.com/news/mena/syria/fate-of-syria-s-idlib-being-decided-behind-closed-doors-1.2198304
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سيف الله
04-24-2018, 07:49 PM
Salaam

Another update. Another perspective.

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"I'm done fighting, the #FSA lied to us and the #US dollars and #Saudi money they gave us ruined everything. I just want the war to be over" Listen to this interview with a "rebel" fighter evacuated from #Ghouta towards Idlib as part of an agreement with the Syrian Government




Assad defends his record, old but relevant

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سيف الله
04-25-2018, 10:34 PM
Salaam

Another update.

Syria Watch


Turkeys 911km concrete and steel wall along its Syria border is nearing completion, providing another barrier to those trying to escape the heady combination of chlorine, sarin, barrel bombs and cruise missiles that now punctuate their lives.

That's in no way to minimise the Turkish siege-offensive that's currently in progress in the Kurdish - held town of Afrin just to the north, where President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has made it clear that starving civilians to death is his chosen weapon so war.

Things are increasingly crowded and desperate on the Syrian side of the wall: of the 2.5 million people trapped in Idlib, more than 1.75 million are displaced from elsewhere. Camps lack water, food, shelter and medicine. People are living in fields, under makeshift tents, hungry, cold and under constant threat of death by types of warfare the UN banned long ago. Unsurprisingly, many try to flee to Turkey; but Turkey closed its border to them in May 2015. There have been numerous recent reports of Syrians being beaten and shot at the few remaining crossing points, together with routine deportations of those who do get through.

Human Rights Watch has interviewed dozens of Syrians in Idlib who say that over the last three months Turkish police and border guards have picked up hundreds of asylum seekers, held them overnight in tents close to the Syrian border, bused them to a border crossing close to the Syria Village of Hatya and forced them to walk across it. Satellite images confirm security posts and tents in these locations.

Many say they have been returned multiple times. Some report seeing people, including children, shot at and, in some cases, killed on Turkish soil. One hospital on the Syrian side west of Idlib said it had treated dozens of people with gunshot injuries who say they were shot by Turkish border guards. One father of four has given up trying and is now living in a field in Idlib. 'There's is still shelling here but if we die, it better to die at home', he says.

Human RIghts Watch has asked the EU to protest formally to Turkey. But at a meeting with Erdogan in Bulgaria last month, the EU merely voiced a vague concern regarding Afrin, presumably handicapped by its own morally dubious 2016 agreement with Turkey aimed at curbing refugees flows to Europe and its own failure to relocate Syrian refugees trapped in Greece as part of that agreement. Indeed, not one country has been prepared to ask Turkey to reopen its border to Syrian asylum seekers, and neither has the UN, despite calling for Syrians to be offered asylum. It seems chlorine and sarin justified bombing raids but not welcoming displaced people.

Turkey categorically denies returning Syrians to Syria, which would breach international law on 'non-refoulment', prohibiting the forced return of anyone to a place where they face a real risk of persecution, torture or inhuman and degrading treatment. Still, Turkey soon wont need to return anyone: with a 10ft- high wall in place, the hundreds of thousand of refugees in fields on the Syrian side will be trapped in harms way for good. Out of sight, and out of mind.

PE No 1468
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سيف الله
04-25-2018, 11:10 PM
Salaam

format_quote Originally Posted by Silas
I am not making excuses for Assad or Iran --I am merely being pragmatic.

Who is going to replace Assad exactly? ISIS? Do we need more beheadings slave markets, which were a disgrace to Islam and an international embarrassment?

I would be happy to support a Muslim leader in Syria who could turn that country around, but where is he?
This is a tough point to deal with, but you have a point, even if Assad is defeated, whats going to replace him? You cant survive by fighting alone, how are you going to master the art of government, are you going to govern for everybody or for only for the few? How will you provide essential services? Education, health, infrastructure, how will you attract business? How will you deal with unemployment? Or are you going to becoming another tyrannical regime?

Having lived under an dictatorship for so long its a steep learning curve for the population to learn to govern itself.

Many in rebel held territories acknowledge these problem.

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سيف الله
04-26-2018, 12:27 AM
Salaam

Another update

Turkey slams Arab League for Afrin criticism


Turkish Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hami Aksoy has slammed the Arab League for its “unfortunate” decision to criticise Turkey’s military operation in northwest Syria, Turkish newspaper Karar reported on Tuesday.

The Arab League, a regional cooperation organisation consisting of 22 Arab states from the Middle East and North Africa, held a summit on Sunday in the Saudi city of Dhahran.

The draft resolutions prepared at the summit included criticism of Turkey’s “interference” in the internal affairs of Arab countries, and rejection of Turkey’s “Operation Olive Branch”, which captured the northwest Syrian area of Afrin from Kurdish forces in March.

“(An operation) against a terrorist organisation which aims to divide Syria at the same serves the defence of the country’s political unity and territorial integrity,” said Aksoy, referring to the People’s Protection Units (YPG), the Kurdish forces that had been in control of Afrin.

“It is an undeserved misfortune for Turkey that (the Arab League) has ignored the contributions of the country, which has assumed a seriously responsibility related to the accommodation of millions of refugees, the progress of the political process, and the reduction in violence and blood and tears shed since the beginning of the Syrian crisis,” said Aksoy.

https://ahvalnews.com/arab-league/turkey-slams-arab-league-afrin-criticism
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سيف الله
04-26-2018, 09:43 PM
Salaam

Another update

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Join OGN LIVE from Syria as Bilal Abdul Kareem responds to your questions and comments regarding the latest events.


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سيف الله
04-28-2018, 09:30 PM
Salaam

Another update

How Britain engaged in a covert operation to overthrow Assad
#SyriaWar

Starting just months after the 2011 uprising, UK policy has helped to prolong and radicalise Syria’s devastating war


Some commentators in the British mainstream media believe the UK has "done nothing" in the war in Syria and lament the failure to help stop it.

In fact, Britain has engaged in a covert operation with allies to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad for more than six years, and this policy has helped prolong and radicalise the terrible war. It is British action, not inaction, that is the biggest problem with government policy towards Syria. The full story of this covert operation may take years to emerge, but some elements of it can already be pieced together.

Deepening control of the Middle East


UK covert operations appear to have begun in late 2011, a few months after popular demonstrations started challenging the Syrian regime in March of that year. Already repressive, Assad's regime resorted to violence to try to quell the protests, routinely firing into crowds, detaining thousands and subjecting many to torture.

As the number of dead at the hands of the regime mounted, so did opposition to it. The UK and its allies spotted an opportunity, which they had long been looking for, to remove an independent, nationalist regime in the region and deepen their overall control of the Middle East.

Qatar began shipping arms to opposition groups in Syria with US approval in spring 2011, and within weeks, the Obama administration was receiving reports that they were going to militant groups. By November, former CIA officer Philip Giraldi wrote that "unmarked NATO warplanes" were arriving in Turkey, delivering weapons and 600 fighters from Libya in support of the Free Syrian Army (FSA), a group of Syrian army deserters.

Britain's MI6 and French special forces were reportedly assisting the Syrian fighters and assessing their training, weapons and communications needs while the CIA provided communications equipment and intelligence.

Thus, David Cameron's government began covert action in Syria while having just overthrown Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, also working alongside Islamists. Some of the Libyan militants joining the Syrian insurgency were reportedly trained by British, French or US forces in Libya to fight Gaddafi. Some would later join the Islamic State (IS) or al-Qaeda's affiliate in Syria, al-Nusra, which became the most powerful Syrian rebel group.

The 'rat line' of weapons

Britain became involved in the "rat line" of weapons delivered from Libya to Syria via southern Turkey, which was authorised in early 2012 following a secret agreement between the US and Turkey. Revealed by journalist Seymour Hersh, the project was funded by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar while "the CIA, with the support of MI6, was responsible for getting arms from Gaddafi’s arsenals into Syria".

The operation was not disclosed to US congressional intelligence committees as required by US law, and "the involvement of MI6 enabled the CIA to evade the law by classifying the mission as a liaison operation".

Hersh noted that "many of those in Syria who ultimately received the weapons were jihadists", some affiliated with al-Qaeda. Indeed, it is believed that Qatar – which was the UK's key ally in overthrowing Gaddafi and was now repeating its role in Syria – was pouring weapons and cash into Nusra. The Telegraph reported on a Middle Eastern diplomat saying that Qatar is responsible for Nusra "having money and weapons and everything they need".

In 2012, the British military drew up plans to form a 100,000-strong Syrian rebel army of "moderates" to overthrow Assad, which would march on Damascus under Western and Gulf air cover. Cameron was told that this "extract, equip, train” initiative would take a year to develop, but Britain's National Security Council rejected the idea as too risky.

However, the US plan that emerged in 2013 to train a large force of Syrian rebels was described as an "echo" of this British plan.

British training of rebels to fight Assad at bases in Jordan was authorised around this time, and special forces operating from there were reported to be "likely" slipping into Syria on missions. By August 2012, Britain's military and intelligence base in Cyprus was also passing on intelligence to the FSA through Turkey, while Britain provided rebel groups with satellite phones to coordinate military operations.

The Foreign Office was also “teaching negotiation and ‘stabilisation’ skills to opposition leaders, and advising on how to address the Syrian people and international audiences”.

Arms funnelled to hardline groups

It was reported that the US was fully aware that most of the arms being provided by its Saudi and Qatari allies were going to "hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups". Yet US and British involvement in the war expanded further in November 2012 when, at a conference in Qatar of the so-called "Friends of Syria" group of countries opposed to Assad, Britain announced it was seeking to organise the armed Syrian rebels into an "efficient fighting force".

Foreign Secretary William Hague planned to establish an interim government in northern Syria and to make Syria’s opposition forces "come together" on the ground, with the aim of toppling Assad.

Two days later, Britain's chief of the defence staff, General David Richards, convened a meeting in London to further arm the opposition. Soon afterwards, the US coordinated an airlift of 3,000 tonnes of arms to the FSA from Croatia with the help of Britain and other European states, paid for by Saudi Arabia.

Lord Ashdown, the former Liberal Democrat leader, later said this massive quantity of arms ended up going "almost exclusively to the more jihadist groups". Nusra and another hardline Islamist group, Ahrar al-Sham, secured some of the weapons being supplied to the FSA, while others inadvertently made their way to IS fighters in neighbouring Iraq.

Britain was intimately involved in Obama's "Timber Sycamore" programme launched in April 2013, which became the major US operation to furnish arms and training to supposedly "vetted" Syrian opposition groups. The control rooms in Turkey and Jordan, manned by intelligence officers from the US, Britain, Turkey, France, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, supplied anti-tank missiles and rockets to various opposition groups.

Again, many weapons found their way to IS and al-Qaeda, sometimes being traded on the black market. The US pumped more than $1bn into Timber Sycamore, which was only shut down by President Donald Trump in 2017.

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http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/how-britain-engaged-covert-operation-overthrow-assad-1437573498
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سيف الله
04-30-2018, 07:47 PM
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Iran: Fighting 'terror' publicly, mourning the dead secretly

The Iranian regime has struggled to justify to Iranians its extensive military involvement in Syria.


Since the start of the Syrian uprising in 2011, Iran's military footprint in Syria has gradually increased. In the early days of the war, Tehran's intervention was limited to sending military advisors to train Syrian forces. Today, it is recruiting and commanding a number of Shia militias which have become the dominant pro-regime forces on the ground.

In the spring and summer of 2013, as opposition forces advanced across Syria, it was the Iranian military effort that saved the Assad regime.

The rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS) in 2014 allowed Tehran to legitimise its Syria involvement as a "war on terror" and increase its military presence. That year, the conventional military forces, the Artesh, joined the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) and its Afghan and Pakistani Shia militias (the 14,000-strong Fatemiyoun Division and the 5,000-strong Zeynabiyoun Brigade, respectively) and Lebanese Hezbollah in a more visible fashion.

In the summer of 2015, Major-General Qasem Soleimani, commander of al-Quds Brigade, the foreign arm of IRGC, visited Moscow. Three months later, Russia deployed on the ground in Syria, establishing air cover for the regime and boosting its air bombardment campaigns. The coordinated Russian-Iranian operation saved the Assad regime again.

But as body bags stream back home and the cost of maintaining the war effort increases, the Iranian regime has had to scramble for ways to justify its Syrian military operation to the Iranian public.

Public narratives, secret funerals

Although Iran was involved in the conflict in Syria from the very beginning, it was only after the rise of ISIL that official information started coming out about Iranians who had lost their lives in the war. In 2016, the number of military casualties officially passed 1,000, including high-ranking military officers whose deaths were harder to conceal. Today, the number is believed to have increased four-fold.

To justify deploying Iranian troops in Syria, the Iranian regime employed the usual "war on terror" narrative, which gained traction especially after ISIL expanded rapidly in 2014 and 2015.

Crucially, the Iranian "war on terror" seamlessly rhymed with the US-led one (the West preferred that al-Assad stay in power to fight ISIL). Both sides deliberately obscured the fact that al-Assad and ISIL are two sides of the same coin. For, al-Assad's barbarity helped produce ISIL's, which further legitimised his mass murder.

When addressing the Iranian public, the Islamic Republic has from the beginning of its Syrian intervention emphasised the need to protect shrines of Shia saints (central among them, the Sayidda Zeynab Mosque in southern Damascus, believed by Shia Muslims to house the grave of the daughter of the first Shia imam, Ali ibn Abi Talib, Prophet Mohammad's son-in-law) against "Wahhabi terrorists" - a sectarian discourse designed to appeal to the religious nationalism of Iranians.

At times, Iran's military elite has also portrayed military involvement in Syria as part of its "export of the Islamic Revolution". For instance, in February 2015, the commander of the IRGC, General Mohammad-Ali Jafari declared: "Today we see signs of the Islamic Revolution being exported throughout the region, from Bahrain to Iraq and from Syria to Yemen and North Africa."

Tehran has tried to avoid talking about the goal of defending the regime of Bashar al-Assad, although officials sometimes talk about "paying back" Damascus for its loyalty during the war with Iraq (1980-1988).

In contrast to the Iraq-Iran War, when the dead were celebrated in public funerals, Tehran has kept pictures of deployed and fallen soldiers in Syria under tight wraps. In fact, the IRGC and its paramilitary force, the Basij, have overwhelmingly kept the mourning ceremonies for their Syria casualties closed to the public.

This new secrecy constitutes an unprecedented reversal of Ayatollah Khomeini's dictum "We are alive through mourning", which he voiced only one month after the start of the war with Iraq. For decades, these funeral ceremonies reflected the Islamic Republic's Shia mourning culture, staged as public displays of stalwartness and resistance.

But the intervention in Syria made Iranian authorities fear that any public mourning of Iranian casualties could potentially backfire.

Undisclosed expenses

There is much talk in the post-ISIL era and especially in the current so-called reconstruction process in Syria, about Tehran reaping economic rewards from its years-long military support for the Assad regime.

The promised dividends of the military campaign might seem lucrative at first glance, but they are far from attainable. Not only is the Syrian economy in shambles, but Russia is also aiming to extract some profit from its intervention.

But the fact that the Iranian authorities, nonetheless, continue talking about potential economic benefits in Syria is quite indicative. They've had to justify Iranian spending on Syria at a time when the Iranian economy is not doing well.

Since the start of the war, Tehran has been lending billions of dollars to Damascus with little chance of repayment. It has also been paying for thousands of Hezbollah fighters deployed in Syria, as well as the militias it maintains.

With military expenditures in Syria being kept a secret to avoid drawing public ire, it is unclear just how much Iran is spending on its intervention there. Various estimates put that number between $6bn and $20bn annually - not an insignificant amount given a strained state budget and Iranians' socio-economic misery.

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https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/iran-fighting-terror-publicly-mourning-dead-secretly-180430140249437.html

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سيف الله
05-01-2018, 10:31 PM
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The real war for Syria is taking place in its skies

The hidden battle in Syria – the one that rarely appears on our television screens – has been raging for years between Israel and a coalition comprising the Syrian government, Iran and the Lebanese militia Hezbollah.

Watching over the proceedings without directly intervening has been Russia, although that might be about to change.

The prize is control over Syrian territory but the battlefield is Syria’s skies.

According to United Nations figures, the Israeli military violated Syrian airspace more than 750 times in the four-month period leading up to last October, with its warplanes and drones spending some 3,200 hours over the country. On average, more than six Israeli aircraft entered Syrian airspace each day in that period.

Since war broke out in Syria just over seven years ago, Israeli fighter jets are believed to have carried out hundreds of offensive missions.

Israel regards the stakes as high. It wants Syria to remain an enfeebled state, ensuring Bashar Assad’s government cannot again become a regional foe. But Israel also needs to prevent other powerful, hostile actors from being drawn into the resulting vacuum.

Israel achieved one major aim early on: Western powers insisted that the Syrian government be disarmed of its large arsenal of chemical weapons, Damascus’s only deterrent against an Israeli nuclear threat.

Since then, Israel’s focus has shifted to Iran and blocking its ambitions on various fronts: to prop up Assad, establish a military presence close to Israel’s northern border and use Syria as a conduit for transferring arms to Hezbollah.

Iran’s aim is to recreate a balance of terror between the two sides and free itself from diplomatic isolation; Israel’s is to maintain its military pre-eminence and dominance of the Middle East’s skies.

In addition, Israel seeks to exploit Syria’s collapse to claim permanent title over the Golan Heights, which it seized from Syria in 1967 and later annexed in violation of international law.

Mike Pompeo, the hawkish new US Secretary of State, is due in Jerusalem on Sunday to discuss the fate of the 2015 nuclear accord with Iran, due for renewal next month.

Israel hopes the US will tear up the deal, allowing sanctions to be intensified and forcing Iran to concentrate on its diplomatic woes and mounting protests at home rather than project its influence into Syria.

In the meantime, tensions in Syria are ratcheting up. Unusually, Israel admitted this month that it was behind a strike on an Iranian base in Syria that killed seven Iranian troops. According to the Wall Street Journal, Israel targeted an anti-aircraft battery under construction, one Tehran hoped would limit Israel’s freedom to patrol Syria’s skies.

The attack followed Israel’s interception of a drone over northern Israel, presumably dispatched to gain the same kind of intelligence about Israeli military bases that Israel has of Iranian bases in Syria.

According to a senior Israeli military official, the move from proxy clashes to direct ones has “opened a new period” of hostilities. Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman has warned that Israel is prepared to prevent Iran’s entrenchment in Syria, “regardless of the price”.

Echoing him, US Defence Secretary James Mattis warned on Thursday that it was “very likely” Israel and Iran were on a collision course. Neither appears to believe it can afford to climb down.

But Israel’s gameplan not only risks a dangerous escalation with Iran. It could draw Russia even deeper into Syria too.

Last week Russian officials indicated there are plans to supply the Syrian army with Russia’s advanced S-300 missile defence system. For the first time, Israeli planes would face a real risk of being shot down if they violated Syrian airspace.

So far Israel has suffered only one known loss: an F-16 was brought down in February by the Syrian army in what Israel claimed was a crew “error”.

But Israel could soon find itself with an unnerving dilemma: either it exposes its warplanes to Syrian interception, or it attacks Russian defence systems.

Russian officials have reportedly warned that there would be “catastrophic consequences” if Israel did so. But apparently unmoved, Lieberman asserted last week: “If anyone shoots at our planes, we will destroy them.”

The reality, however, is that the Russian proposal, if carried out, threatens to bring to an end impunity for an Israeli air force that has roamed the skies above parts of the Middle East at will since its lightning victory over its Egyptian counterpart in 1967.

Until now, Israeli and Russian officials have co-ordinated closely about their respective spheres of action in Syria to avoid mishaps. But events are spiralling in a direction that makes the status quo hard to sustain.

Russia has suggested that supplying Syria with the S-300 is retaliation against the US, a punishment for its airstrike on Syria earlier this month. The defence system is intended to ramp up the pressure on US President Donald Trump to make good on his recent promise to pull US troops out of Syria.

But it does so chiefly by harming Washington’s key ally in the region, Israel. Russia will effectively be introducing tripwires across Syria that Israel will be constantly in danger of setting off.

Israel’s largely successful ploy till now has been to play both sides of the Syrian war – assisting its US patron in keeping Iran on the back foot while co-operating with a Russian military committed to stabilising the Syrian government.

That approach is now beginning to unravel as Israel and the US seek to prevent Moscow and Iran from helping consolidate Assad’s hold on power. The longer the fighting continues, the more likely it is that Israel will make an enemy not just of Iran but of Russia too.

https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/the-ba...-syrias-skies/

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سيف الله
05-01-2018, 11:44 PM
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An American perspective, still thinks America can salvage whats left of its reputation,nevertheless an informative video.

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سيف الله
05-02-2018, 01:01 AM
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lets not forget what Assads regime is capable of.

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سيف الله
05-03-2018, 08:39 AM
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Even though Russian and Syrian forces were on high alert for potential Israeli air strikes, Israel was able to fly in and carry out a massive operation without being fired upon a single time. How did they do it?

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سيف الله
05-03-2018, 10:21 PM
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In a speech back in 2008, Gaddafi warns Arab leaders that they will be next after Saddam Hussein.

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JustTime
05-05-2018, 05:59 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
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An American perspective, still thinks America can salvage whats left of its reputation,nevertheless an informative video.

Vietnam, Iraq, and Syria are very different scenarios with different justifications and motives and so on. To compare them like this is absurd Vietnam was fought to assist a US ally struggling, while Iraq was invaded 3 times for various allegations and the leader was murdered for defending his country, Syria was bombed for killing Muslim Kids, even if these Kids weren't Muslim these bombings would be justified, killing, raping, and torturing kids like the way Assad and HezbulShaytan do is the worst thing anybody could do.

To defend Bashar and post arguments in his favor for the sake "sharing both sides" is simply wrong he has no excuses, or arguments against calamities he brought upon himself every Muslim on Earth should feel disheartened by this "Man", His supporters and apologists are worse than he is.
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Abz2000
05-05-2018, 05:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime
Vietnam, Iraq, and Syria are very different scenarios with different justifications and motives and so on. To compare them like this is absurd Vietnam was fought to assist a US ally struggling, while Iraq was invaded 3 times for various allegations and the leader was murdered for defending his country, Syria was bombed for killing Muslim Kids, even if these Kids weren't Muslim these bombings would be justified, killing, raping, and torturing kids like the way Assad and HezbulShaytan do is the worst thing anybody could do.
One thing that saddam, Qaddafi, and Assad have in common is the fact that they were the most vocal three world leaders in condemning zionist israeli crimes and taking measures to help the people being unjustly deprived of life, property, and God-given rights which most people around the world take for granted.
I don't claim to be an expert on Assad and am disgusted by the crimes of his henchmen, but i do know that this story is not black and white and that there are multiple international deceits taking place, also the fact that many of the most knowledgeable and vocal practising Muslims in the world tied culturally to the sunnah of Allah's messenger come from the heartlands of Iraq and Shaam have been made targets in egypt, Iraq and libya previously, and the fact that Israeli agents have been active in provoking government and people against each other via false flag atrocities is no secret, nor the fact that the golan heights areas are illegally occupied by Israel despite international appeals for justice by the syrian government. The lack of action on the part of the syrian government when blessed mujahideen in Allah's path were crossing over the border into iraq to fight illegal invaders is also a motive for the enemy invaders and their allies to replace assad with a more docile figurehead, the fact that he later carried out killings of mujahideen with the apparent aim of pacifying the enemies of Allah and taking heat off himself didn't really help though - probably a strong reason for his current situation.

format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime
To defend Bashar and post arguments in his favor for the sake "sharing both sides" is simply wrong he has no excuses, or arguments against calamities he brought upon himself every Muslim on Earth should feel disheartened by this "Man", His supporters and apologists are worse than he is.

In the same breath, i believe one ought to add that defending trump, obama, bush, natanyahu, sharon, blair, brown, cameron, may, elizabeth battenberg etc are simply more wrong since assad's crimes pale in comparison to theirs.
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سيف الله
05-06-2018, 02:13 AM
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Falling Into War

Iran has an exaggerated reputation in the Middle East for Machiavellian cunning and an ability to outmanoeuvre its enemies. Britain used to be regarded in the same light in the region: its most ill-considered actions were admired as devilishly clever plots when all it was doing was taking advantage of the blunders of its opponents.

The Islamic Republic is similarly seen as the sinister hidden hand behind many developments with which it has little to do. It is accused of creating a corridor of pro-Iranian states from Tehran to the Mediterranean, posing an existential threat to Israel and the Gulf monarchies. The Iran nuclear deal of 2015 is to be dropped by Donald Trump because it has supposedly done nothing to avert these dangers, possibly leaving military action as the only option.

Iranian influence has certainly expanded but only thanks a series of disastrous US-led military interventions since the start of the millennium. In early 2001 Iran was isolated with Afghanistan to the east under the rule of the Taliban, whose Sunni sectarianism inspired them with hatred of Shia Iran whose diplomats they casually murdered. Iran’s neighbour to the west was Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, with whom it had fought a ferocious eight-year war.

All this was to change in two years: in 2001 the US overthrew the Taliban, though it was never able to defeat them permanently or stabilise the rule of its local Afghan allies. In 2003, a US-led coalition invaded Iraq, bringing to power the first Shia government in the Arab world since the days of Saladin and one which inevitably looked to their fellow Shia in Iran.

Western debacles in the Middle East since 9/11 have not produced a learning curve; or there is such a curve, it points down rather than up. In the wake of the popular uprising in Syria in 2011, the US and its regional allies – Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar – backed the armed opposition to president Bashar al-Assad. Whatever they supposed they were doing, they ensured that for Assad to survive he needed maximum engagement of Russia and Iran in Syria.

Are we about to see Iranian influence expand once again as the US and Israel gear up for a confrontation – and quite possibly a war – with Iran? Trump is likely to reimpose sanctions on Iran on 12 May, thereby sinking the nuclear deal negotiated by Barack Obama. It is a self-harming decision, pillorying Iran for being a great and threatening power while oddly weak enough to be brought to heel by economic sanctions and possible airstrikes.

Sanctions will not work any better against Iran than they did against Iraq in the 1990s or against Syria today. If they do not, then the only alternative is military action by the US or by the US “green-lighting” an Israeli attack. But what happens then? This is the question that was never properly answered when the US intervened directly or indirectly in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. Supporters of these ventures had no clear vision of what a US victory would look like and, in so far as they did have a strategy, it rested on wishful thinking.

In reporting these three wars I was always struck by the degree to which the US and its allies were hobbled by an unhealthy belief in their own propaganda. They claimed to be replacing evil rulers who were without popular support, but they were really plugging into complex ethnic and sectarian civil wars in which all sides had supporters who would fight to the death. Instead of facing this reality, they would take refuge in fantasies such as David Cameron’s 70,000 moderate rebel fighters in Syria whom nobody else could find.

It is not yet clear if Trump and the Israeli prime minister do want a war with Iran, but they may blunder into one all the same. Alternatively, they may imagine they will get their way by means of a short successful war and find, as so many leaders have done down the centuries, that they are mired in a long and unsuccessful conflict. Israel had plenty of experience of this in Lebanon, which it invaded in 1982 in a war from which it spent years trying to extricate itself.

But political leaders are never quite as foolish as they might appear when exaggerating foreign threats. Governments everywhere want to present themselves as the sole defenders of their citizens against some hideous menace from abroad. Iran fulfils this role for the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and the Sunni rulers of the Gulf and acts as a useful glue for national solidarity and a diversion from domestic grievances. Belief in an all-embracing Iranian conspiracy fuels paranoia: in Bahrain in 2011, the authorities tortured Shia hospital doctors who were accused of using a piece of medical equipment to receive orders from their masters in Tehran.

Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has always played up the Iranian threat. Since the early 1990s, he has warned that Iran is about to acquire a nuclear arsenal unless it is stopped forthwith. As prime minister, he has long been speaking of launching an Israeli strike against Iran, but he has been very cautious about actually doing do. Diplomats wonder if this is still the case.

More is at work here than the normal threat inflation to be expected from politicians wishing to stand tall in defence of the homeland or portray their opponents as unpatriotic weaklings. This is a common feature in the politics of every country, but Israel has always been particularly keen to have an enemy in common with the US. It was, in fact, surprisingly relaxed about the Iranian threat when Iran was at its most revolutionary in the years after the overthrow of the Shah in 1979.

It was only after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 that this changed, when Iran found itself promoted to the first rank of demons. Scott Peterson explains this in his perceptive history of Iran, Let the Swords Encircle Me, saying: “Anxious that its own strategic utility as a ‘bulwark’ against Soviet-allied Arab states was losing its shine after the Cold War, Israel launched a campaign in 1992 to convince the US that a new and more dangerous threat had emerged from Iran and the Islamic extremism that the revolution inspired.”

Such threat manipulation is still effective. But, ironically, it is the US and its allies that have opened the door to Iran by destroying or weakening the state structure in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Yemen. In any confrontation with the US and Israel, Iran will have every incentive to reinforce its position in the region. If the US really wants to reduce Iranian influence and that of its allies in the region, there is a much better and more effective way doing so: this is to end the wars which have enabled Iran and many other players to spread their influence.

https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/falling-into-war/

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JustTime
05-06-2018, 05:51 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
One thing that saddam, Qaddafi, and Assad have in common is the fact that they were the most vocal three world leaders in condemning zionist israeli crimes and taking measures to help the people being unjustly deprived of life, property, and God-given rights which most people around the world take for granted.
I don't claim to be an expert on Assad and am disgusted by the crimes of his henchmen, but i do know that this story is not black and white and that there are multiple international deceits taking place, also the fact that many of the most knowledgeable and vocal practising Muslims in the world tied culturally to the sunnah of Allah's messenger come from the heartlands of Iraq and Shaam have been made targets in egypt, Iraq and libya previously, and the fact that Israeli agents have been active in provoking government and people against each other via false flag atrocities is no secret, nor the fact that the golan heights areas are illegally occupied by Israel despite international appeals for justice by the syrian government. The lack of action on the part of the syrian government when blessed mujahideen in Allah's path were crossing over the border into iraq to fight illegal invaders is also a motive for the enemy invaders and their allies to replace assad with a more docile figurehead, the fact that he later carried out killings of mujahideen with the apparent aim of pacifying the enemies of Allah and taking heat off himself didn't really help though - probably a strong reason for his current situation.




In the same breath, i believe one ought to add that defending trump, obama, bush, natanyahu, sharon, blair, brown, cameron, may, elizabeth battenberg etc are simply more wrong since assad's crimes pale in comparison to theirs.
People like you who act smart because you blame Israel for everything and think you know better because you follow theories made up by the worst of individuals are very lost and ignorant, "Pales in Comparison" Assad is wiping Syria clean of Muslims he is worse than the Israelis the Russians, Iranians, and Assad are worse than Israel. If Assad was in charge of Israel there would be no Gaza Strip for Sunnis, he would bomb it with the help from his Iranian and Russian masters then claim that all of it was a false flag operation then repopulate it with Shias.

You should be ashamed of your self May Allah humiliate you with Bashar.
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سيف الله
05-06-2018, 09:51 PM
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Independent rebel groups in the rebellion are being removed from the field. Looks like Turkey wants to take over.

Idlib is now in Ankara's crosshairs as it tries to secure its borders

Hayat Tahrir Al Sham's dominance in northwestern Syria is interfering with Turkey's plans to create loyalist forces to keep the YPG at bay, writes Hassan Hassan


Last week, Turkish officials met members of Jabhat Al Nusra and presented them with an ultimatum: the group had to either dissolve itself – and members join other factions individually – or face a rebel assault backed by Ankara.

The objective, according to reports in Arabic media, was to protect Idlib, where the group is perceived to be dominating, from an attack by the regime and its Russian and Iranian allies. An insider source confirmed the visit, saying that at least two members of the group were “summoned” to Istanbul to hold meetings with officials there. "They were given very serious conditions to meet," he said. "They left displeased, to say the least.”

The move follows a series of developments involving Turkey’s new policy in northwestern Syria after the expulsion of the Kurdish militias from their stronghold in Afrin.

The Turkish proposal was designed to address the issue of Jabhat Al Nusra’s dominance in Idlib, where the group was exempted from a de-escalation deal in various areas agreed by Turkey, Russia and Iran. Since the expulsion of Kurdish militias from Afrin, Idlib has become more beneficial for Turkey than before. The reason is related to its proximity to Kurdish towns in northwestern Syria, which provide another layer of security for Turkish-backed forces and help create a contiguous sphere of influence for Ankara.

But Jabhat Al Nusra, known as Hayat Tahrir Al Sham after rebranding last year, presents a dilemma for Turkey. On one hand, the group’s dominance creates an awkward situation for Turkey: it makes Idlib vulnerable to a regime assault and continues to raise Western concerns about a sanctuary for an Al Qaeda organisation. On the other hand, the group has reached out to Turkey and reassured it about its future intentions. The group also has a communication channel with Turkey that has enabled the two to co-ordinate, particularly since October.

Despite an existing agreement with Russia and complaints from the Syrian regime, Hayat Tahrir Al Sham’s militants escorted Turkish forces as they entered Idlib to establish checkpoints as part of the de-escalation monitoring process. The turn of events in October followed earlier rumours that Turkey was planning to expel the group from Idlib with the help of rebel forces opposed to it.

The meeting with Turkish officials last week was connected to two other efforts by Turkey in that region and builds on the events in October.

The first is an agreement between Hayat Tahrir Al Sham and rebel factions to end two months of fighting in Idlib. The truce happened in the backdrop of a meeting in Istanbul and was part of Turkey’s push for the two sides to end infighting and discuss ways to resolve the conundrum presented by Hayat Tahrir Al Sham.

The second is a stated effort by Turkey to “professionalise” rebel militias operating in northern Syria with military-style legions. This effort became more pronounced with the operation in Afrin, where Turkey, at least publicly, insisted on the involvement of fighters as part of a “national army” rather than as whole militias.

While the forces were far from disciplined or organised military units, a new Turkish approach was clear. Turkey has demonstrated in recent months that it was no longer committed to the sponsorship of a rebel faction as a standalone proxy. In the past, for example, Turkey worked with groups like Ahrar Al Sham as proxy forces and invested in their survival as such.

When Ahrar Al Sham’s leadership was decapitated in an attack in 2014, for example, Ankara quickly helped to revive the remaining group with logistical and financial support. By contrast, Turkey stood by as the same group came under assault by Hayat Tahrir Al Sham last year. It also refused to back Ahrar Al Sham when it and other forces declared war against Hayat Tahrir Al Sham in February.

In other words, Turkey has shown no interest recently in playing the old game of supporting ragtag militias to fight the Syrian regime. Instead, it has moved to create loyalist forces organised under new units for the main purpose of securing its borders and ensuring that the YPG, the Kurdish militias that it regards as an affiliate of the PKK, do not carve out sanctuaries in northern Syria.

Idlib has become a vital terrain to achieve this objective. Also, Turkey considers an all-out fight against Hayat Tahrir Al Sham to be a side issue that could distract from the priority of containing the YPG and carries the risk of creating a vacuum that might benefit the regime or the Kurds.

The possibility of a war against Hayat Tahrir Al Sham is also reduced because the group is willing to do what it takes to avoid confrontation with Turkey. This was evident in its outreach effort, admitted by one of the group’s top leaders. Despite rumours of an imminent confrontation in October, the group escalated the situation and instead cooperated with Turkish forces inside Idlib. Additionally, the group has evacuated some of its checkpoints in Idlib or is “disappearing”, as one source in the area described it, which indicated the group is not wedded to the control of territory, at least publicly.

Ankara appears to hope that the group will dismantle itself and be incorporated into other formations. Turkey does not seem to be keen to consider the alternative, namely a serious push to weaken the group and replace it with other forces. Such a scenario carries unpredictable and unwanted risks for Turkey. It also does not want to give up a pocket central to its goals of dealing with the Kurdish militia threat in the northwest.

So far, Turkey has been able to maintain the status quo there. But soon it will find itself obliged to make hard choices regarding its approach to the former official branch of Al Qaeda and its long-term interests in northern Syria.

https://www.thenational.ae/opinion/comment/idlib-is-now-in-ankara-s-crosshairs-as-it-tries-to-secure-its-borders-1.726612

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سيف الله
05-06-2018, 10:46 PM
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Journalists challenge their inclusion on a US drone ‘kill list’

Two journalists have today filed federal court cases in the United States to challenge their inclusion on a classified US “Kill List”, Reprieve said in a statement.

Bilal Abdul Kareem, an American citizen and journalist working in Syria, escaped being killed by drone strike on five occasions, including two strikes on cars he was travelling in. Two additional strikes were executed on his independent news agency, On the Ground News, while he was working in the studio.

Ahmad Zaidan, a senior reporter with Al Jazeera has appeared in a top secret SKYNET document, a US computer programme which has classified him as an Al-Qaeda courier based on “metadata”. Zaidan was the first person to interview Osama Bin Laden, Al-Qaeda’s former leader in the 1990s.

“Bilal and Ahmed are journalists, not terrorists. All they are asking for is the chance to prove it. Yet, the government seeks to deny them that chance. In doing so, he is asking the courts to jettison the very value, which sets America apart from dictatorships and despots – due process,” Jennifer Gibson, head of Reprieve’s drones project, said.

“The courts must not let him. The executive should not be allowed to act as judge, jury and executioner unchecked. In a country founded on the rule of law, these men have a right to challenge the government’s decision to kill them,” Gibson continued.

SKYNET, operated by the National Security Agency, pinpoints targets based on individuals’ mobile phone calls and travel patterns. It does not take into consideration any direct evidence to ensure legality, Reprieve said.

“The government has acknowledged that it maintains a ‘Kill List’ of suspected terrorists, and that there is a process to determine who should be included on that list. The plaintiffs were incorrectly placed on the kill list. They have the right to make the case that the government got it wrong,” Tara Plochocki, parter at Lewis Baac Kaufman Middlemiss PLLC, said.

Kareem and Bilal seek to remove their names from the US “Kill List” or any other list from which individuals can be targeted for lethal action. The case will also seek to address whether the US followed its own internal procedure on listing individuals and what that procedure comprises of.

Under the drones policy inked by former president Barack Obama and continued by Donald Trump, only individuals who pose a “continuing, imminent threat to US persons” may be targeted outside war zones. But Reprieve, a legal action charity seeks to argue that Kareem and Zaidan are journalists who are provided special protection inside and outside war zones.

Obama previously warned high risk counter-terrorism operations should be used sparingly and only after internal review. Trump has sidestepped that rule and provided the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the US Military broader powers. In addition, the US considers some countries “areas of activity hostilities” or temporary battlefields where looser targeting rules apply. US drone warfare has taken the lives of some 10,858 individuals since 2004, according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism (TBIJ).

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180501-journalists-challenge-their-inclusion-on-a-us-drone-kill-list/

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Obama previously warned high risk counter-terrorism operations should be used sparingly and only after internal review. Trump has sidestepped that rule and provided the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the US Military broader powers.


I think you will find that under Obama, targeting killings by the use of UAVs went through the roof.

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Salaam

Another update

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Abz2000
05-07-2018, 02:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime
People like you who act smart because you blame Israel for everything and think you know better because you follow theories made up by the worst of individuals are very lost and ignorant, "Pales in Comparison" Assad is wiping Syria clean of Muslims he is worse than the Israelis the Russians, Iranians, and Assad are worse than Israel. If Assad was in charge of Israel there would be no Gaza Strip for Sunnis, he would bomb it with the help from his Iranian and Russian masters then claim that all of it was a false flag operation then repopulate it with Shias.

You should be ashamed of your self May Allah humiliate you with Bashar.
Yo punk, leave off the unwarranted ad hominem because you sound like one of those keyboard warrior urchins that squeal when they get squished - focus on the topic - i know it's difficult for zionist supporters who regularly need avenues of distraction with the aim of scoring lousy points.

You know you're making a joke of it when you quote assad's baathist counterpart criticizing persia in your signature, the baathist counterpart who was america's stick against mujahideen in Allah's path, persia and iraq's other neighbours, only that he saw through the game when amongst other events, his american allies got caught selling weapons to iran then tried to brush it off as a one off no big deal event, he then signed a peace treaty with iran and immediately got provoked by Kuwait which was America's new fav still secret mistress in the region.... But yeah, you're possibly amongst those who cheered when america openly turned on their unwilling mistress in the region and attacked the people of iraq (if you're even old enough to remember or were alive in those days that is).
Now don't expect me to descend into the cesspit with you and stay in it, grow up a bit, and don't insult people by expecting all and sundry to assume that encouraging the open enemies of Allah to attack genuine (the best) Muslims is somehow something we should get excited about as if it's one of those kids adverts.

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سيف الله
05-07-2018, 08:11 PM
Salaam

Brother JustTime seems so obsessed with Assad he doesn't look at the wider picture. I don't think anybody here likes Assad or what his vile regime (Iranians and Russians included) are doing or the destruction of Arab communities, (among many other communities who are being destroyed and displaced by this war (Yazidis)), but ranting and raving isn't going to solve the problem.

Oh and the Zionists are quite happy to see Syria (and Iraq) self destruct (see the Oded Yinon Plan, A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm), you don't think they've played their part in this conflict, your naive.

There's much about this conflict we don't understand, we have to try and figure it out.

Anyway this is a good visual representation of the conflict.

The Syrian Civil War, every day

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JustTime
05-07-2018, 11:28 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
Yo punk, leave off the unwarranted ad hominem because you sound like one of those keyboard warrior urchins that squeal when they get squished - focus on the topic - i know it's difficult for zionist supporters who regularly need avenues of distraction with the aim of scoring lousy points.

You know you're making a joke of it when you quote assad's baathist counterpart criticizing persia in your signature, the baathist counterpart who was america's stick against mujahideen in Allah's path, persia and iraq's other neighbours, only that he saw through the game when amongst other events, his american allies got caught selling weapons to iran then tried to brush it off as a one off no big deal event, he then signed a peace treaty with iran and immediately got provoked by Kuwait which was America's new fav still secret mistress in the region.... But yeah, you're possibly amongst those who cheered when america openly turned on their unwilling mistress in the region and attacked the people of iraq (if you're even old enough to remember or were alive in those days that is).
Now don't expect me to descend into the cesspit with you and stay in it, grow up a bit, and don't insult people by expecting all and sundry to assume that encouraging the open enemies of Allah to attack genuine (the best) Muslims is somehow something we should get excited about as if it's one of those kids adverts.

You are so typical and a poster child for the whole anti-Zionist useful idiot crowd

Here you are loving them but they are not loving you, while you believe in the Scripture - all of it. And when they meet you, they say, "We believe." But when they are alone, they bite their fingertips at you in rage. Say, "Die in your rage. Indeed, Allah is Knowing of that within the breasts."

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format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

Brother JustTime seems so obsessed with Assad he doesn't look at the wider picture. I don't think anybody here likes Assad or what his vile regime (Iranians and Russians included) are doing or the destruction of Arab communities, (among many other communities who are being destroyed and displaced by this war (Yazidis)), but ranting and raving isn't going to solve the problem.

Oh and the Zionists are quite happy to see Syria (and Iraq) self destruct (see the Oded Yinon Plan, A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm), you don't think they've played their part in this conflict, your naive.

There's much about this conflict we don't understand, we have to try and figure it out.

Anyway this is a good visual representation of the conflict.

The Syrian Civil War, every day

Yazidis can rot in Hell with the rest of the Kurds they worship Satan anyway

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format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

Independent rebel groups in the rebellion are being removed from the field. Looks like Turkey wants to take over.

Idlib is now in Ankara's crosshairs as it tries to secure its borders

Hayat Tahrir Al Sham's dominance in northwestern Syria is interfering with Turkey's plans to create loyalist forces to keep the YPG at bay, writes Hassan Hassan


Last week, Turkish officials met members of Jabhat Al Nusra and presented them with an ultimatum: the group had to either dissolve itself – and members join other factions individually – or face a rebel assault backed by Ankara.

The objective, according to reports in Arabic media, was to protect Idlib, where the group is perceived to be dominating, from an attack by the regime and its Russian and Iranian allies. An insider source confirmed the visit, saying that at least two members of the group were “summoned” to Istanbul to hold meetings with officials there. "They were given very serious conditions to meet," he said. "They left displeased, to say the least.”

The move follows a series of developments involving Turkey’s new policy in northwestern Syria after the expulsion of the Kurdish militias from their stronghold in Afrin.

The Turkish proposal was designed to address the issue of Jabhat Al Nusra’s dominance in Idlib, where the group was exempted from a de-escalation deal in various areas agreed by Turkey, Russia and Iran. Since the expulsion of Kurdish militias from Afrin, Idlib has become more beneficial for Turkey than before. The reason is related to its proximity to Kurdish towns in northwestern Syria, which provide another layer of security for Turkish-backed forces and help create a contiguous sphere of influence for Ankara.

But Jabhat Al Nusra, known as Hayat Tahrir Al Sham after rebranding last year, presents a dilemma for Turkey. On one hand, the group’s dominance creates an awkward situation for Turkey: it makes Idlib vulnerable to a regime assault and continues to raise Western concerns about a sanctuary for an Al Qaeda organisation. On the other hand, the group has reached out to Turkey and reassured it about its future intentions. The group also has a communication channel with Turkey that has enabled the two to co-ordinate, particularly since October.

Despite an existing agreement with Russia and complaints from the Syrian regime, Hayat Tahrir Al Sham’s militants escorted Turkish forces as they entered Idlib to establish checkpoints as part of the de-escalation monitoring process. The turn of events in October followed earlier rumours that Turkey was planning to expel the group from Idlib with the help of rebel forces opposed to it.

The meeting with Turkish officials last week was connected to two other efforts by Turkey in that region and builds on the events in October.

The first is an agreement between Hayat Tahrir Al Sham and rebel factions to end two months of fighting in Idlib. The truce happened in the backdrop of a meeting in Istanbul and was part of Turkey’s push for the two sides to end infighting and discuss ways to resolve the conundrum presented by Hayat Tahrir Al Sham.

The second is a stated effort by Turkey to “professionalise” rebel militias operating in northern Syria with military-style legions. This effort became more pronounced with the operation in Afrin, where Turkey, at least publicly, insisted on the involvement of fighters as part of a “national army” rather than as whole militias.

While the forces were far from disciplined or organised military units, a new Turkish approach was clear. Turkey has demonstrated in recent months that it was no longer committed to the sponsorship of a rebel faction as a standalone proxy. In the past, for example, Turkey worked with groups like Ahrar Al Sham as proxy forces and invested in their survival as such.

When Ahrar Al Sham’s leadership was decapitated in an attack in 2014, for example, Ankara quickly helped to revive the remaining group with logistical and financial support. By contrast, Turkey stood by as the same group came under assault by Hayat Tahrir Al Sham last year. It also refused to back Ahrar Al Sham when it and other forces declared war against Hayat Tahrir Al Sham in February.

In other words, Turkey has shown no interest recently in playing the old game of supporting ragtag militias to fight the Syrian regime. Instead, it has moved to create loyalist forces organised under new units for the main purpose of securing its borders and ensuring that the YPG, the Kurdish militias that it regards as an affiliate of the PKK, do not carve out sanctuaries in northern Syria.

Idlib has become a vital terrain to achieve this objective. Also, Turkey considers an all-out fight against Hayat Tahrir Al Sham to be a side issue that could distract from the priority of containing the YPG and carries the risk of creating a vacuum that might benefit the regime or the Kurds.

The possibility of a war against Hayat Tahrir Al Sham is also reduced because the group is willing to do what it takes to avoid confrontation with Turkey. This was evident in its outreach effort, admitted by one of the group’s top leaders. Despite rumours of an imminent confrontation in October, the group escalated the situation and instead cooperated with Turkish forces inside Idlib. Additionally, the group has evacuated some of its checkpoints in Idlib or is “disappearing”, as one source in the area described it, which indicated the group is not wedded to the control of territory, at least publicly.

Ankara appears to hope that the group will dismantle itself and be incorporated into other formations. Turkey does not seem to be keen to consider the alternative, namely a serious push to weaken the group and replace it with other forces. Such a scenario carries unpredictable and unwanted risks for Turkey. It also does not want to give up a pocket central to its goals of dealing with the Kurdish militia threat in the northwest.

So far, Turkey has been able to maintain the status quo there. But soon it will find itself obliged to make hard choices regarding its approach to the former official branch of Al Qaeda and its long-term interests in northern Syria.

https://www.thenational.ae/opinion/c...rders-1.726612

Erdogan truly is the Dog that's in his name and this is who Muslims look up to
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urkahnkhan
05-07-2018, 11:45 PM
I sense that some people are under the illusion that there is somehow good in Iran and the shiites. They couldn't be more wrong in my opinion. They are worse then the jews if you look at it from all angles without being bias or anything but just being calm and analysing it.

1. They have abandoned the Sunnah of the prophet and have become clear cut mushrikeen

2. The prophet told us that you will find the worst of enemy to be the mushrikeen and jews but in my opinion they are worse enemy then the jews just due to how they chose to conduct their operations. It's barbaric and fight as if they are fighting aliens. There is no good but ill feelings towards anyone who practice Sunnah.

3. They are willing to kill pregnant women as Assad has showcased in Syria's long war. This has happened.

4. The jews when they attack don't come out like that on the palestinians and if they did no Palestinian would have remained today it shows that this people despite their evils have some form of humanity and restrain but you would not find this within the mushrikeen. You will find them to be amongst these who would kill a pregnant woman.

5. The reasons why this people have multipled in the first place is the muslims fault because they sheltered them due to nationalism and being their country-men so they sheltered them for centuries giving them protection under the illusion that he or she is an arab brother or sister but little did they know that the Sahaba would not have let this fly because they themselves knew what it felt like living amongst mushrikeen and believe me they are the worst of people.

6. The way they pray is not based on the sunnah and not to forget this people are herectic all in all. They commit massive shirk putting things alongside Allah(swt) this is unacceptable by any form of standard. I have no idea how they have been treated so good amongst the Sunnah for all this centuries and I believe this is where our biggest sins lay. They have free access to perform pilgramage to Mecca and Medina.

If it was up to me I would have rather given the jews allowance to perform the Hajj and Umrah instead of the Shiites Mushrikeens. They are truly the lowest of the lowest and I don't understand why some sunnah arabs are being cosy with them just due to nationalism but the mushrikeen don't have that type of solidarity with them.

Rather have solidarity with the jews rather then them. Because the jews will not come after the kids in the womb as potential target like they do. To put it short this people don't deserve your mercy or your country-men protection or solidarity.

What Syria has revealed can't be undone and it has truly revealed to you the true nature of the mushrikeen and this were exactly the kind or type of people the Prophet(sa) was dealing with and having issues with.

Right now they are waging existential war in the middle east specifically Yemen, Syria and Iraq. This thing could spread further to the Holy land itself as they have desire to take it over
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JustTime
05-07-2018, 11:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by urkahnkhan
I sense that some people are under the illusion that there is somehow good in Iran and the shiites. They couldn't be more wrong in my opinion. They are worse then the jews if you look at it from all angles without being bias or anything but just being calm and analysing it.

1. They have abandoned the Sunnah of the prophet and have become clear cut mushrikeen

2. The prophet told us that you will find the worst of enemy the mushrikeen and jews but in my opinion they are worse enemy then the jews just due to how they chose to conduct their operations. It's barbaric and fight as if they are fighting aliens. There is no good but ill feelings towards anyone who practice Sunnah.

3. They are willing to kill pregnant women as Assad has showcased in Syria's long war. This has happened.

4. The jews when they attack don't come out like that on the palestinians and wallah if they didn't no Palestinian would have remained today it shows that this people despite their evils have some form of humanity and restrain but wallahi you would not find this within the mushrikeen. They will find them to be amongst these who would kill a pregnant woman.

5. The reasons why this people have multiple in the first place is the muslims fault because they sheltered them due to nationalism and being their country-men so they sheltered them in centuries giving them protection under the illusion that he or she is an arab brother or sister but little did they know that the Sahaba would not have let this fly because they themselves knew what it felt like living amongst mushrikeen and believe me they are the worst of people.

6. The way they pray is not based on the sunnah and not to forget this people herectic all in all. They commit massive shirk putting things alongside Allah(swt) this is unacceptable by any form of standard. I have no idea how they have been treated so good amongst the Sunnah for all this centuries and I believe this is where our biggest sins lay. They have free access to perform pilgramage to Mecca and Medina.

If it was up to me Wallahi I would have rathered given the jews allowance to perform the Hajj and Umrah instead of the Shiites Mushrikeens. They are truly the lowest of the lowest and I don't understand why some sunnah arabs are being cosy with them just due to nationalism but the mushrikeen don't have that type of solidarity with them.

Rather have solidarity with the jews rather then them. Because the jews will not come after the kids in the womb as potential target like they do. To put it short this people don't deserve your mercy or your country-men protection or solidarity.

What Syria has revealed can't be undone and it has truly revealed to you the true nature of the mushrikeen and this were exactly the kind or type of people the Prophet(sa) was dealing with and having issues with.

Right now they are waging existential war in the middle east specifically Yemen, Syria and Iraq. This thing could spread further to the Holy land itself as they have desired to take it over
Jazak Allah Khayran Ya Akhi

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Related worthwhile read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel...%80%93Iraq_war
According to Bergman, Israel's goals were to: reestablish some influence in Iran which was lost when the Shah was defeated in 1979; prevent Iraq from conquering Iran as they feared a victorious Saddam Hussein; and create business for the Israeli weapons industry

It was Saddam's men and supporters who resisted in Iraq, it was Saddam died upon Tawhid, it was the Safawi Rawafida who formed the new government of Iraq , it's Hezbollah that helped the invaders in Basra, it's Sistani who calls for the Rawafida to commit all their crimes, it's Iran who rules Iraq today.
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سيف الله
05-08-2018, 12:26 AM
Salaam

format_quote Originally Posted by urkahnkhan
I sense that some people are under the illusion that there is somehow good in Iran and the shiites. They couldn't be more wrong in my opinion. They are worse then the jews if you look at it from all angles without being bias or anything but just being calm and analysing it.

1. They have abandoned the Sunnah of the prophet and have become clear cut mushrikeen

2. The prophet told us that you will find the worst of enemy the mushrikeen and jews but in my opinion they are worse enemy then the jews just due to how they chose to conduct their operations. It's barbaric and fight as if they are fighting aliens. There is no good but ill feelings towards anyone who practice Sunnah.

3. They are willing to kill pregnant women as Assad has showcased in Syria's long war. This has happened.

4. The jews when they attack don't come out like that on the palestinians and wallah if they didn't no Palestinian would have remained today it shows that this people despite their evils have some form of humanity and restrain but wallahi you would not find this within the mushrikeen. They will find them to be amongst these who would kill a pregnant woman.

5. The reasons why this people have multiple in the first place is the muslims fault because they sheltered them due to nationalism and being their country-men so they sheltered them in centuries giving them protection under the illusion that he or she is an arab brother or sister but little did they know that the Sahaba would not have let this fly because they themselves knew what it felt like living amongst mushrikeen and believe me they are the worst of people.

6. The way they pray is not based on the sunnah and not to forget this people herectic all in all. They commit massive shirk putting things alongside Allah(swt) this is unacceptable by any form of standard. I have no idea how they have been treated so good amongst the Sunnah for all this centuries and I believe this is where our biggest sins lay. They have free access to perform pilgramage to Mecca and Medina.

If it was up to me Wallahi I would have rathered given the jews allowance to perform the Hajj and Umrah instead of the Shiites Mushrikeens. They are truly the lowest of the lowest and I don't understand why some sunnah arabs are being cosy with them just due to nationalism but the mushrikeen don't have that type of solidarity with them.

Rather have solidarity with the jews rather then them. Because the jews will not come after the kids in the womb as potential target like they do. To put it short this people don't deserve your mercy or your country-men protection or solidarity.

What Syria has revealed can't be undone and it has truly revealed to you the true nature of the mushrikeen and this were exactly the kind or type of people the Prophet(sa) was dealing with and having issues with.

Right now they are waging existential war in the middle east specifically Yemen, Syria and Iraq. This thing could spread further to the Holy land itself as they have desired to take it over
Oh I see your now peddling this the new Saudi propaganda line, more sectarian rhetoric? Now America is in the process of withdrawing from the Middle East the Sauds are in desperate need of 'new' friends, even if that means licking the boots of the Zionists, heh, how times change. Believe me 'brother' you don't want the Zionists to be your 'friends'.

Like I said I don't like what the regime and its allies are doing, but I don't like the games the Sauds are playing, if they are so desperate for more war with Iran they should learn to fight their own battles.
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urkahnkhan
05-08-2018, 12:37 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime
Jazak Allah Khayran Ya Akhi

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Related worthwhile read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel...%80%93Iraq_war
According to Bergman, Israel's goals were to: reestablish some influence in Iran which was lost when the Shah was defeated in 1979; prevent Iraq from conquering Iran as they feared a victorious Saddam Hussein; and create business for the Israeli weapons industry

It was Saddam's men and supporters who resisted in Iraq, it was Saddam died upon Tawhid, it was the Safawi Rawafida who formed the new government of Iraq , it's Hezbollah that helped the invaders in Basra, it's Sistani who calls for the Rawafida to commit all their crimes, it's Iran who rules Iraq today.
Thanks for the reply brother

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format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam



Oh I see your now peddling this the new Saudi propaganda line, more sectarian rhetoric? Now America is in the process of withdrawing from the Middle East the Sauds are in desperate need of 'new' friends, even if that means licking the boots of the Zionists, heh, how times change. Believe me 'brother' you don't want the Zionists to be your 'friends'.

Like I said I don't like what the regime and its allies are doing, but I don't like the games the Sauds are playing, if they are so desperate for more war with Iran they should learn to fight their own battles.
I'm not a fan of Saudi Arabia myself nor it's policies. But what I don't like is seeing the mushrikeen spreading and waging war upon the lands and people. waging a war on Iran is necessary in my honest opinion. Together with whomever is willing to join whether his a muslim or not. They are the biggest evil and the worst of creation by a big margin. It's not even debatable
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JustTime
05-08-2018, 03:22 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam



Oh I see your now peddling this the new Saudi propaganda line, more sectarian rhetoric? Now America is in the process of withdrawing from the Middle East the Sauds are in desperate need of 'new' friends, even if that means licking the boots of the Zionists, heh, how times change. Believe me 'brother' you don't want the Zionists to be your 'friends'.

Like I said I don't like what the regime and its allies are doing, but I don't like the games the Sauds are playing, if they are so desperate for more war with Iran they should learn to fight their own battles.
"Sectarian" is a made up word that has no legality or validity in an Islamic sense there is only one Islam and either you follow it correctly or you dont and it is clear the leadership of Iran is the farthest thing from "Islamic" and has no validation as a nation or governing body from a Shari'i perspective the Shias are Kufar and this has been established long before anyone alive today was born.

And the whole "Everything is the Zionists' fault" is beyond stale they are not the only aggressors or even the strongest and there is no difference in disbelief, as believers are one disbelievers are one, the only thing that might be a dividing factor is that Jews and Christians are worthy of proection while Shias and other Pagans are not.

Are the Saudis perfect? By no means but compared to Iran and the Rawafid hordes in the Mashriq they are a thousand times better, anybody is better than a Shia.
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Abz2000
05-08-2018, 04:30 AM
Useful at this point to confirm that i believe the slimy scorpions have gone back to their running criminal habit....addiction?...of infiltration and subversion via false first person testimoinials and opinionated/manipulative secular government tv style fake debates..... lol they actually talk to each other as if they're having a real discussion - these lot will be upstaging george clooney and will smith with their poker straight and solemn expressions where it's difficult (sometimes) to fathom the fact that they're playing circus for the camera, but hey, at least those guys have the self-respect to admit they're actors (even though it's obvious).
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JustTime
05-08-2018, 05:02 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
Useful at this point to confirm that i believe the slimy scorpions have gone back to their running criminal habit....addiction?...of infiltration and subversion via false first person testimoinials and opinionated/manipulative secular government tv style fake debates..... lol they actually talk to each other as if they're having a real discussion - these lot will be upstaging george clooney and will smith with their poker straight and solemn expressions where it's difficult (sometimes) to fathom the fact that they're playing circus for the camera, but hey, at least those guys have the self-respect to admit they're actors (even though it's obvious).
You are rambling
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Abz2000
05-08-2018, 07:24 AM
Dunno if you know what rambling means.......although it appears you seem to know how to use the term to pervert people from thinking clearly.......
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سيف الله
05-08-2018, 07:22 PM
Salaam

Another update.

US 'freezes funding' to Syria's White Helmets, but group vow to continue operations

The White Helmets have vowed to continue search and rescue operations in Syria, following reports that the US government had cut funding to the organisation.

Raed al-Saleh from the group told Al Jazeera that the White Helmets "did not receive any direct funding from the US or any other country" and its operations will continue in Syria.

"The White Helmets receives funding from organisations and associations," Saleh added.

"Our work has not been disrupted and all the projects we are working on will not be halted. Our volunteers are still operating on the ground."

Reports that US President Donald Trump had ordered a $200 million freeze on aid to Syria, allegedly also covered funding to the White Helmets.

This is something the White Helmets denied, which said it does not receive money directly from governments.

"We have not officially been informed of an end to the funding," Raed al-Salah, one of the heads of the White Helmets, said in the statement.

"There are no new changes to the Civil Defence's [White Helmets] work or its projects."

But it added that some funding had been cut.

The frozen aid "included some indirect support for the White Helmets as well as rebuilding and recovery funds for others," the White Helmets said on Twitter. "We hope all Syria funds will resume soon."

The White Helmets operate in opposition areas of Syria, which have been subjected to intense bombing by Syrian regime and Russian aircraft.

They have saved thousands of people, digging civilians out of bombed out homes.

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/ne...-white-helmets

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JustTime
05-08-2018, 09:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
Dunno if you know what rambling means.......although it appears you seem to know how to use the term to pervert people from thinking clearly.......
You are so blind, you are corrupt and lost Wallahi, you only make sense to yourself and it's sad.
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سيف الله
05-08-2018, 11:09 PM
Salaam

Another update

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Abz2000
05-09-2018, 06:39 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime
You are so blind, you are corrupt and lost Wallahi, you only make sense to yourself and it's sad.
Lol what are you trying to get me to do? Engage in unnecessary and time consuming juvenile banter with you? .....But that would be aimless (rambling.....on both our parts). i wonder how old you are but won't bother to ask or check due to the fact that you're on my ignore list as soon as i click on reply - having said what was necessary for me to add to the discussion for whoever cares to consider.
Think about how you you want it - because you dig or build for yourself ultimately, so please don't be like the one who makes his own bed of repose and then is unwilling to lie in it, and maybe looking at a set of russian dolls and pondering would be a useful excercise at this point, and those dolls don't contain the world.....chapter two around verse 100 could be another point of reference.

ignorance isn't really bliss.....it's often extremely detrimental to all involved.


Edit: ignore list is gone, so we'll just have to try and be on guard from deception and falsehood.
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سيف الله
05-09-2018, 10:11 AM
Salaam

Another update on the worsening security situation in Northern Syria.



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سيف الله
05-09-2018, 08:41 PM
Salaam

Last year but relevant.

Blurb

As worldwide outrage mounts over an alleged chemical weapons attack in Idlib province, which was reportedly carried out by the Assad government, we speak with world-renowned political dissident, linguist and author Noam Chomsky about the ongoing conflict in Syria.

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سيف الله
05-09-2018, 09:57 PM
Salaam

Another update



Dr Shajul Islam Official
2 May at 05:44 ·

Without realizing, we have become desensitized to the horrors of the war in Syria. As I write this, the Syrian Army is marching to the next destination to carry out their massacre... besieged areas in north of Homs.

This war in Syria has set a new precedence… the regime and their allies are allowed to carry out all types of war crimes without any recompense.
Again and again, we are seeing the world superpowers fooling us with all these unrealistic “peace deals” and “ceasefires”, while in fact, nothing changes on the ground and the criminals continue their massacre of women and children.

During my first trip to Syria in 2012, I worked from an underground hospital in Talbisa, northern Homs. There, I had some of my first experience of war medicine. The things I saw in Homs in 2012 gave me nightmares for years to come and shaped my future. And now, the fall of these areas in Homs, seem imminent.

Sadly, most of the rebel groups have given up the fight, and now its becoming more clear, that some groups have been making secret deals with the regime. Fighting the stronger rebel groups before switching sides with their heavy weapons.

Wars are very complicated, its hard to know who you can trust. And it's always the innocent civilians that pay the price.

And now, things have gotten even more complicated with the involvement of Israel. It seems that war between Iran and Israel, is imminent on Syrian soil. What will this mean for the people of Syria? Only time will tell.

Sometimes I sit and ponder about this war. And then I thank God that he has blessed me, to be a doctor. As a doctor, saving lives... you can't really go wrong.

I have seen many people I once knew who came to this blessed land of Syria to help, but in the end, they have done more harm for the people instead of helping.

It's impossible to make any difference politically when its hard to find any group that you can trust.

Continue the charity work and help the charities that are working to better the lives of the oppressed. This is my advice. This is the time of confusion… and we patiently wait for the help of Allah to come.

Dr Shajul Islam Official
9 May

As Ramadan, the month of mercy approaches, things are changing fast here in Syria. Many deals are taking place. Right now, we are getting ready to receive more families from northern Homs and south of Hama, which was one of the largest besieged areas. This, at the same time as many families from Damascus, are still arriving to the north.

Many will see these deals as a defect for the rebels, but I see this as a victory in many ways. Now, the rebels have been able to secure an area larger then Lebanon, where people opposed to the Assad regime, can live. Here, in northern Syria, the opposition is slowly, with the help of the Turkish government, securing all the border regions and establishing a government (the Salvation Government).

4 million people are living here. There is good food, regular water supply, good power, gas and somewhat of a free healthcare system, (partly funded by your donations).

Now, in this area of Idlib, the Syrian people have so much freedom, that they could not dream of, in the 40 years they were oppressed by the Assad regime. The biggest oppression was that of religious freedom. Now, people are able to practise Islam freely, women are able to wear the niqaab and walk the streets, without being abused. We are able to practise aspects of the religion of Islam, that we can't even talk about in other parts of the world.

For now, it seems a phase of stability is coming to Syria. But this does not mean our work is done. Right now we need to work hard to implement law and order, to build the education system and to fix the healthcare sector. We have a lot of work to do and we need skilled people to come to Syria to help.

We know the sayings of the prophet Mohammed (saw), regarding the end of times and how significant Syria will be. So, we know that this phase is temporary and we are far from ever-lasting peace.
Know the importance of the blessed land of Shaam. If you are unable to come here to join us, in this great work, then at least support us in helping the oppressed…

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JustTime
05-09-2018, 10:31 PM
Donald Trump:
"Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!"

Has more Wala wal Bara than some users on this forum
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سيف الله
05-10-2018, 12:34 AM
Salaam

format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime
"Sectarian" is a made up word that has no legality or validity in an Islamic sense there is only one Islam and either you follow it correctly or you dont and it is clear the leadership of Iran is the farthest thing from "Islamic" and has no validation as a nation or governing body from a Shari'i perspective the Shias are Kufar and this has been established long before anyone alive today was born.

And the whole "Everything is the Zionists' fault" is beyond stale they are not the only aggressors or even the strongest and there is no difference in disbelief, as believers are one disbelievers are one, the only thing that might be a dividing factor is that Jews and Christians are worthy of proection while Shias and other Pagans are not.

Are the Saudis perfect? By no means but compared to Iran and the Rawafid hordes in the Mashriq they are a thousand times better, anybody is better than a Shia.
Ah this again, the new Saudi/Zionist propoganda line were all meant to chant eh? Like I said earlier how times change.

Shoo hasbra troll.

format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
Dunno if you know what rambling means.......although it appears you seem to know how to use the term to pervert people from thinking clearly.......
Ive been noticing certain Saudi/Zionist hasbra agents coming on to various (Muslim) social media sites and trying to subtly subvert and undermine discussions. We have an example of it here.

Sad really. :hmm:
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Abz2000
05-10-2018, 12:55 AM
I believe that if Assad has turned against Allah and His messenger and the truth, then he has done so in secret alliance with america, israel, britain, and france, primarily as his allies with a few more bandwagon jumping investors. Therefore, any measures taken against Assad for crimes should be applied in multiples to his criminal handlers according to their part in crimes.
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سيف الله
05-10-2018, 01:03 AM
Salaam

format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
I believe that if Assad has turned against Allah and His messenger and the truth, then he has done so in secret alliance with america, israel, britain, and france, primarily as his allies with a few more bandwagon jumping investors. Therefore, any measures taken against Assad should be applied in multiples to his criminal handlers.
Well bro I have a different take on the situation, I think what started out as a rebellion/civil war morphed into great power conflict between Assad/Iran/Russia vs GCC (or whats left of it)Turkey/Israel/USA/Western powers, though the dynamics have changed over the years.

Its hard to make sense of whats going on but we can keep trying.
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Abz2000
05-10-2018, 01:46 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam



Well bro I have a different take on the situation, I think what started out as a rebellion/civil war morphed into great power conflict between Assad/Iran/Russia vs GCC (or whats left of it)Turkey/Israel/USA/Western powers, though the dynamics have changed over the years.

Its hard to make sense of whats going on but we can keep trying.

If we go back to posts #2 and #3 of this thread where a spokesperson for kufr made his case, we may notice the original kafir blueprint along with calculated resulting scenarios. Notice how he speaks as a sports commentator attempting to whip up a "team" frenzy, while at the same time providing patterns of thought in the hasbara way, and attempting to convince Muslims of reasons why they "need to" kill each other and worship the godless American government as if it's a shining illuminated one eyed savior on an eternal pedestal - though God is NOT one eyed . Going through a few more of his (usually pro-zionist) posts, you'll notice that he's attempting to validate the slaughter of Muslims whilst again attempting to make the leaders of kufr out to be the judges, then when you notice the fake muslim jury wading in and repeating such talking points via false testimony - it begins to become clearly apparent that this war waged by secularism and it's allies is a crime against Allah and His awliyaa, and that the target is beyond the insignificant factions and teams that the pharaohs set up for people as distractions and energy dissipation tactics whilst they work to remove the truth and administer falsehood and exploitation upon the masses of people on this planet.
This is a running battle with the devil and His allies for the very souls of humankind, and the righteous people of Syria are causing the devil and his allies to bite their fingertips in rage, hence the purposefully confused turmoil.
if Assad is not disliked by Israeli criminals and is doing a secret "peace" deal with them in return for "normal" relations, the God-fearing people of Syria have surely alarmed the corrupt to the extent that they are angry (as described in the final verse in ch 48 of the Quran.

A question glares - why would america be spending billions of dollars in syria when nobody other than israel want them there? Are they not addicted to weapons sales, armed robbery, and bloodshed? Have they not signed a deal with the devil and accepted their seats in hell in return for a false promise of worldly Godhood? and does it not look like a zbignew brzezinski model which was used in afghanistan?



All of these war games and maneuvers since at least world war one indicate that the real battle is not one idol flag and it's devotees vs another idol flag vs it's devotees, but a battle for the souls of humankind with engineered turmoil and confusion to make us lose sight of priority number One. This is definitely a battle of shaytaan and his bloated criminal allies against the whole of humankind.

we already know this because of the turmoil in our lives and because we know that the heads of kufr are working hard to corrupt and destroy all of mankind via overt and covert media programming and manipulation, with corruption of secular education systems to the extent that people are herded electronically like cattle in uniform through the economic "life" system until end of life "care" where people can't look after their elders properly (and are too stimulated and busy to care anymore) and governments are talking about legalizing euthanasia for the less productive (some have already accepted unconditional abortion like the pagans of pre-islamic arabia).

we delve a little and find that the families who were behind the u.n are also behind the usurers and the corrupt ngos which make idiots stand up and loudly demand their own exploitation (they were also behind the nazi tattooing machines and hitler's and later indira gandi's and china's mass sterilizations, and also the joint secularist euro-american conducted murders of people with semitic blood regardless of creed (tests on bodies confirming semitic origin - which is a line running through adam, noah, the family of Ibrahim, and also the family of imran - are usually reported as jewish, though we know that there are more semitic Muslims than Jews, and that most of the members in those narrow minded racist groups and soldiers of germany and europe couldn't tell the difference between a real jew who was against the forced relocation of zionists to palestine, and a Muslim who was against the forced relocation of zionists to palestine. Both were circumcised, and both dressed quite similarly and maintained similar practices in eating and modesty habits - just that Muslims didn't have much of a voice unlike the western supported zionists who used the planned events for political captial - so the killing of Muslim went on relatively silently - although hitler's use of the hindu swastika during joint massacres (as the british simultaneously pretended to "give" a part of india to INDIAN Muslims as a solution to the british fomented fighting and massacres - a characteristic method of operation for secular british and pharaonic governments to maintain "balance" (torn in half wrongways) control - then "gave" a half of palestine to mainly EUROPEAN zionists despite multiple fake promises to exploit them less.
these are indications and evidences of some of the psychological operations that were in motion before we were born. Google the pro nazi board game "juden raus" if in doubt as to my observations).

Therefore, if assad is a party to the plot, it follows that putin is too (the soviet communist experiment was wound up by the cia after choosing which of their corrupt friends would become the oligarchs to inherit state apparatus), and the fact that russian and american oligarchs jointly benifit from middle east turmoil is no secret, and good cop bad cop is a proven ages-old psy-op that works with kids, adults, and governments alike unless they know what to compare both "cops" with. Saddam was seeing this type of manipulation and stating it clearly to the world, and i believe that it was his refusal to play corrupt violated and violating puppet that irked the fake jewish state and it's controllers to the extent that they turned on him treaceherously and blatantly.


This is not a game of teams, this is a struggle within each individual and unless we wake up and realize how we are being betrayed and played against each other, we'll keep running from the lap of one corrupt enemy of our souls to another and will continue repeat the commentaries of the false commentators, analysts, and speculators we see on secular t.v.

What is the point of fighting falsehood and corruption if we ourselves are vessels of falsehood? Would we not just be helping the corrupters to corrupt and kill us further whilst selling us weapons? would the logical solution not be to make the truth and justice priority number one in ourselves, families and communities like it should be regardless of accusations of fundamentalism and "idealism"?
Can any secular nation state currently give us a better model for success than Islam? Are we not all struggling and in turmoil? Do we not need to make some very important changes to our personalities and accept Allah our lawgiver? Do we not need to demand truthfulness and decency from ourselves and our governments? is it wise to ask souls more wicked than ourselves to just bomb people better than ourselves as we navigate the rat-race?
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سيف الله
05-10-2018, 10:44 PM
Salaam

Another update

Has Israel opened a new front in Syria's war?

Iran's reaction to latest deadly strikes to determine the length and intensity of confrontation, say analysts.


Iran's reaction to latest deadly strikes to determine the length and intensity of confrontation, say analysts.


Israeli raids against alleged Iranian targets inside Syria have raised fears of a major confrontation in the Middle East. Amid international calls for restraint and calm, Israeli officials say Thursday's attacks were not aimed at opening a new front in Syria's war, but analysts say much will depend on Iran's response. The Israeli military has said that its warplanes targeted intelligence, logistics, storage and vehicles in response to rocket fire targeting its forces in the occupied Golan Heights, which it blames on Iran.

Avigdor Lieberman, Israel's defence minister, said the Israeli assault struck "almost all of the Iranian infrastructure in Syria", and added that Israel will desist from launching any further attacks.

"I hope we finished this chapter and everyone got the message," he said, but warned that "if it rains on us [Israel], it will pour on them [Iran]."

Iran has not commented on the rocket fire.

Situation unclear


The situation remains unclear, with an independent war monitor claiming the rockets followed a "first Israeli bombardment on the town of Baath" in Quneitra province. Also on Tuesday, Syrian state media reported attacks on a military base in Kisweh, south of Damascus, and accused Israel of carrying out the raid. The strikes on Kisweh came shortly after President Donald Trump announced US withdrawal from the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, and resulted in the deaths of 15 people, eight of whom were Iranians, according to the war monitor.

Iranian forces based in Syria reportedly retaliated the next day, launching 20 rockets in the direction of the Israeli-occupied Syrian territory of Golan Heights. The Israeli military accused Iran's Revolutionary Guard (IRGC) and its Quds Force, headed by General Qassem Suleimani, of being behind the attack.

Analysts said the Israeli retaliation was meant to signal Tel Aviv's resolve, without allowing the conflict spiral out of control.

"I don't think Israel is interested in continuing a prolonged war with Iran because this might spill over to other theatres, including in Lebanon with Hezbollah, effectively making it a proxy war," Yossi Mekelberg, a professor of international relations at Regent's University, London, told Al Jazeera.

"Israel runs the risk, by doing what it did, that Iran will feel almost obliged and forced to retaliate again.

"That's the danger when things like this start, you don't know how and who's going to stop. You know how it starts, but you don't know how it will end."

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...122121138.html



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JustTime
05-12-2018, 04:42 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam



Ah this again, the new Saudi/Zionist propoganda line were all meant to chant eh? Like I said earlier how times change.

Shoo hasbra troll.



Ive been noticing certain Saudi/Zionist hasbra agents coming on to various (Muslim) social media sites and trying to subtly subvert and undermine discussions. We have an example of it here.

Sad really. :hmm:
And you're an Iranian troll that acts like an objective Sunni that subtly posts pro-Iranian and pro-Shia media

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format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
I believe that if Assad has turned against Allah and His messenger and the truth, then he has done so in secret alliance with america, israel, britain, and france, primarily as his allies with a few more bandwagon jumping investors. Therefore, any measures taken against Assad for crimes should be applied in multiples to his criminal handlers according to their part in crimes.
Because Russia and Iran are innocent, it's only secretly he's bad and not openly? His ruthlessness is difficult to tell? What's wrong with you are you suffering from mental retardation?

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format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam



Well bro I have a different take on the situation, I think what started out as a rebellion/civil war morphed into great power conflict between Assad/Iran/Russia vs GCC (or whats left of it)Turkey/Israel/USA/Western powers, though the dynamics have changed over the years.

Its hard to make sense of whats going on but we can keep trying.
It's only difficult to those who have no Ilm or proper Aqeedah as well as those who choose to remain ignorant and spread ignorance, because otherwise one with proper knowledge of Islam would realize that this is battle between belief and disbelief that will continue perpetually until the end of time.
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Abz2000
05-12-2018, 06:54 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime

Because Russia and Iran are innocent, it's only secretly he's bad and not openly? His ruthlessness is difficult to tell? What's wrong with you are you suffering from mental retardation?

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It is not impossible that iran became a proxy or a reactionary group before or after the cia false flags and regime change there, it is not impossible that many of these international theatres are simply mechanisms to influence the masses in stages whilst keeping them weak, the fact that Iran was secretly buying weapons from America and Israel whilst America was egging on saddam via saudi arabia (as with the mujahideen in afghanistan during the cold war) and not making it known is an indicator that it is well in the know about the fact that orwell's 1984 and huxleys brave new world (though they're a bit muddled) are being set up before our very eyes, if we care to stop and zoom out a bit and ponder, the scriptures and ahadith are warning us clearly of these scenarios.
I believe that this is the primary reason why war has been declared by Allah and His messenger on the Usury system, and why the Usury system is engaged in an undeclared war against the minds of the people regarding Islam, whilst an overt war against Muslims under various guises internationally is being waged. I mean, not many people would like it if i called someone who tried it on me a polish prstitute or a light skinned person who i want to to discredit a white devil, or a british tory pigfker - especially if the accusations were untrue, but it appears we are being acclimatised in stages by two different forces denoted by light guiding to success and shadowy darkness winking along whilst sitting on the seat of blasphemy, corruption, and rebellion to the extent that hollow and perverted terms such as "Islamic extremists" often after "suspected" have become an easy way of explaining the most horrific atrocities to a mentally and physically disarmed global citizenry awaiting their turn......


When i try to think about why that wicked winter witch who calls herself the queen of narnia who offers up her cup of filthy intoxication everytime people start to think - and who dances with seven little spirits meaner than herself is always tempting us with bad apples and trying to poison one side of the knife when the servants of Allah try to draw near to her Master and their Master, i wonder, what's in it for her? More? More of what??? She's filthy rich!!!
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سيف الله
05-14-2018, 11:12 AM
Salaam

Another update

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Yahya.
05-15-2018, 08:38 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

Another update

That's a very strange argumentation, maybe far fetched propaganda. Even if the Golan Heights belong to Syria, they are occupied by Israel, and that's a fact. So it would in no means undermine Syria's/Iran's claim when they would bombard Israeli facilities there. It is a scarcely populated area (27k) and army facilities are probably isolated from civilians anyway.
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سيف الله
05-15-2018, 09:16 PM
Salaam

Golan heights was taking from Syria, its not been resolved, the media rather conveniently skirts round the issue, but I agree its not really point.

Another update.

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سيف الله
05-17-2018, 01:10 AM
Salaam

Another update

Turkey builds final outpost in protective ring around Syria's Idlib
#SyriaWar

Turkish forces construct last of 12 posts as Syrian government pushes more refugees into north-eastern province


Turkey has announced the start of work on the last of 12 military observation post along the border of Syria's rebel-held Idlib, creating a protective ring around the province to prevent ground attacks under a deal agreed with Iran and Russia.

Activists reported Turkish military convoys heading to Jisr al-Shagour, near the border with Turkey, to complete its system of fortifications established by the Astana process last year.



On its official Twitter account on Wednesday, the Turkish army said: "No 11 Observation Point, which is the 12th in Idlib region, has been established."

The observation points were agreed under the Astana deal with Russia and Iran, to create "de-confliction" zones in Syria.

Turkish politicians have said Ankara was hopeful of moving the millions of Syrians back to their home country once a safe area could be established - and have cited Idlib as a possible destination.

However, the province's population is already swelled by hundreds of thousands of refugees from other rebel-held areas of Syria, who have been forced to move under "ceasefire" agreements as government forces move in.

Seven years into Syria's war, 2.5 million Syrians are thought to be living in Idlib after their evacuation from all corners of the country.

And despite being under the protection of Turkish forces, residents have endured repeated government air strikes and in-fighting among rebel groups that control the province.

Syria announces full control of central areas

The last Turkish post was set up on the same day the Syrian government announced it had taken full control of central areas of the country, as rebels and their relatives were moved from their final pockets of territory.

The rebels were transferred to Idlib. The evacuations from areas straddling the boundary between Homs and Hama provinces came under a deal between rebel factions and the government.

Rastan, Talbiseh and al-Hula in Homs were all cleared of rebels, the official SANA news agency and the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights activist group reported.

"The last convoy of terrorists and their families exits northern Homs province and southern Hama province," SANA reported - using a term it ascribes to all rebel fighters regardless of faction and ideology.

A total of 34,500 people - armed men and their families - were moved out of the area as part of the deal, according to the Britain-based Observatory.

"As of today, there is not one gunman left, no weapons left in the whole of Homs province," the province's governor, Talal Barazai, told AFP in Rastan.

Meanwhile, Russia's president Vladimir Putin said his navy would patrol off Syria in order to ward off "terrorist" threats.

"This year... due to the continuing terrorist threat in Syria, our ships equipped with cruise missiles will patrol the Mediterranean on a continuous basis," Putin said

Putin praised the "precise and well-coordinated actions of Russian ships and submarines during the Syria operation and the cruise missile strikes... which inflicted considerable losses on the terrorists".

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkey-builds-final-outpost-protective-ring-around-syrias-idlib-1244292087
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سيف الله
05-18-2018, 08:05 PM
Salaam

Another update

Turkey's Afrin operation stokes Yazidi fears and fuels displacement

Khaled is a Yazidi who was still living in his village when we interviewed him only a few days before the Turkish army and their Free Syrian Army associates invaded in March.

"The Yazidis living in the north of the Afrin district are leaving their homes one by one," he told The New Arab, with an anxious voice at his home in Ain Dera.

"Many shrines have been destroyed. Women have been abducted. If the Turkish army and the Islamists arrive all the way here, we don't know where we will be able to go." The New Arab was not able to confirm his claim of women being abducted.

Khaled was sheltering a Yazidi family from Qastal Jindo, a village in Afrin already captured from the Kurdish YPG militia by the Turkish army.

Ankara sees the YPG as the Syrian extension of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) - an outlawed militant group which has waged a bloody insurgency against the Turkish state for nearly 35 years. Turkish officials view Kurdish control of northern Syrian areas bordering Turkey as a major threat to the country's national security.

Turkey, which has taken in nearly four million Syrian refugees, has trained and equipped fighters of the Free Syrian Army - mostly Sunni Syrian Arabs - and has used them to spearhead their operation to take over Afrin, a canton of northern Syria formerly controlled by the Kurdish YPG militia.

But reports are widespread that militiamen are abusing their newfound positions of power in the area. "In April, eleven Yazidis were kidnapped at the same time and their relatives were asked for large sums of money in exchange for their release," says Murad Ismael, executive director of Yazda, a locally focused non-profit organisation.

Another villager spoke to us, but did not want his name published for fear of reprisals.

"They destroyed the Yazidi shrines immediately upon arriving," he said. "We had fled Sheikh Maqsoud, the Kurdish quarter of Aleppo, because of the in-fighting, and found safety in our original village of Qastal Jindo. Now we are refugees once again - and only God knows what we will be tomorrow."

Despite an almost total blackout in the canton now under the control of the Turkish army, evidence has emerged suggesting minorities are being discriminated against for their religious beliefs by zealous Islamist militiamen allied to the Turkish army.

The fears Afrin residents shared with us before the completion of the Olive Branch offensive may have been justified.

"The number of Yazidis in Afrin was around 50,000 before the war. It fell to 35,000 as a consequence of the war. As the Turkish offensive started, the drop continued and reached approximately 25,000," said Mahmoud Kalash, chairman of the Committee of Yazidi Intellectuals in Afrin.

It is believed that number has since fallen further in the formerly Kurdish-held canton. Several Yazidis have reportedly converted to Islam to avoid retaliation from Islamist fighters.

"The Turkish government set up a local council to administer Afrin. One Yazidi representative was appointed within this council, but no one seems to know who that person might be," says Saad Babir, media director at Yazda.

In Ain Deraa, which had been a mixed Yazidi and Sunni-Kurdish town, residents had already seen their main sacred prayer site destroyed by an airstrike in January. This temple, a UNESCO site, was targeted despite there being no military activity near the site that we could detect when we visited.

"We used to go to this ancient site to pray and do our religious activities," said Babir.

The Turkish army has denied shelling any cultural site, saying they only aimed at military targets.

rest here

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/indepth/2018/5/9/turkeys-afrin-operation-stokes-yazidi-fears-and-fuels-displacement
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JustTime
05-21-2018, 04:53 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

Another update

Turkey's Afrin operation stokes Yazidi fears and fuels displacement

Khaled is a Yazidi who was still living in his village when we interviewed him only a few days before the Turkish army and their Free Syrian Army associates invaded in March.

"The Yazidis living in the north of the Afrin district are leaving their homes one by one," he told The New Arab, with an anxious voice at his home in Ain Dera.

"Many shrines have been destroyed. Women have been abducted. If the Turkish army and the Islamists arrive all the way here, we don't know where we will be able to go." The New Arab was not able to confirm his claim of women being abducted.

Khaled was sheltering a Yazidi family from Qastal Jindo, a village in Afrin already captured from the Kurdish YPG militia by the Turkish army.

Ankara sees the YPG as the Syrian extension of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) - an outlawed militant group which has waged a bloody insurgency against the Turkish state for nearly 35 years. Turkish officials view Kurdish control of northern Syrian areas bordering Turkey as a major threat to the country's national security.

Turkey, which has taken in nearly four million Syrian refugees, has trained and equipped fighters of the Free Syrian Army - mostly Sunni Syrian Arabs - and has used them to spearhead their operation to take over Afrin, a canton of northern Syria formerly controlled by the Kurdish YPG militia.

But reports are widespread that militiamen are abusing their newfound positions of power in the area. "In April, eleven Yazidis were kidnapped at the same time and their relatives were asked for large sums of money in exchange for their release," says Murad Ismael, executive director of Yazda, a locally focused non-profit organisation.

Another villager spoke to us, but did not want his name published for fear of reprisals.

"They destroyed the Yazidi shrines immediately upon arriving," he said. "We had fled Sheikh Maqsoud, the Kurdish quarter of Aleppo, because of the in-fighting, and found safety in our original village of Qastal Jindo. Now we are refugees once again - and only God knows what we will be tomorrow."

Despite an almost total blackout in the canton now under the control of the Turkish army, evidence has emerged suggesting minorities are being discriminated against for their religious beliefs by zealous Islamist militiamen allied to the Turkish army.

The fears Afrin residents shared with us before the completion of the Olive Branch offensive may have been justified.

"The number of Yazidis in Afrin was around 50,000 before the war. It fell to 35,000 as a consequence of the war. As the Turkish offensive started, the drop continued and reached approximately 25,000," said Mahmoud Kalash, chairman of the Committee of Yazidi Intellectuals in Afrin.

It is believed that number has since fallen further in the formerly Kurdish-held canton. Several Yazidis have reportedly converted to Islam to avoid retaliation from Islamist fighters.

"The Turkish government set up a local council to administer Afrin. One Yazidi representative was appointed within this council, but no one seems to know who that person might be," says Saad Babir, media director at Yazda.

In Ain Deraa, which had been a mixed Yazidi and Sunni-Kurdish town, residents had already seen their main sacred prayer site destroyed by an airstrike in January. This temple, a UNESCO site, was targeted despite there being no military activity near the site that we could detect when we visited.

"We used to go to this ancient site to pray and do our religious activities," said Babir.

The Turkish army has denied shelling any cultural site, saying they only aimed at military targets.

rest here

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/in...s-displacement
So many Muslims have died in Iraq and Syria and here you are worried about some Devil worshipers, they literally call Melek Tawus Shaytan
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Yahya.
05-21-2018, 11:23 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime
So many Muslims have died in Iraq and Syria and here you are worried about some Devil worshipers, they literally call Melek Tawus Shaytan
The brother is just narrating, he hasn't made any comments.
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سيف الله
05-25-2018, 10:23 PM
Salaam

Another update



An unusual perspective from the right.

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سيف الله
05-29-2018, 06:08 PM
Salaam

Another update.

Rights group: Syria's new property law discourages return

BEIRUT

The Syrian government is passing laws to allow itself to seize private property, displace residents, and discourage refugees from returning, Human Rights Watch said in a new report published Tuesday.

The New York-based group says a 2018 property law, known as Law 10, empowers authorities to confiscate property without compensating the owners or giving them an opportunity to appeal.

The Syrian Government passed Law 10 in April to create "redevelopment zones" to rebuild property damaged in seven years of civil war.

In an interview with the Greek newspaper Kathimerini this month, President Bashar Assad said the law allows authorities to "re-plan the destroyed and the illegal areas," and said it does not "dispossess anyone."

A third of Syria's housing has been destroyed in the last seven years, according to Human Rights Watch. The World Bank says Syria has suffered close to $300 billion in material damage through its war.

The government has responded to the challenge in part by authorizing local governments to create public-private partnerships to take ownership of damaged neighborhoods and redevelop them.

Under law 10, residents have just 30 days to prove they own property in the redevelopment zones in order to receive shares in the projects, or the ownership will be transferred to the local government.

Human Rights Watch says there are numerous obstacles keeping residents from making claims to their properties in the 30-day window. It says many owners are displaced Syrians or refugees and cannot return to their local districts for fear of arrest. Many lack the identification documents that would allow relatives to make claims on their behalf. Only about half of Syrian property was registered with authorities before the war, and many registries were destroyed in the fighting.

More than 11 million Syrians have been displaced by war, including more than 5 million who fled across the country's borders.

The rights group says the Syrian government passed two previous laws, in 2012, letting authorities seize property and assets without due process. The watchdog says the government has a history of using the laws to demolish neighborhoods that opposed Assad's rule.

Germany, Greece, and Lebanon — which host over 1.5 million Syrian refugees between them — have expressed concerns over the law.

German government spokeswoman Ulrike Demmer called it a "cynical plan" to confiscate refugee property.

Lebanese Foreign Minister Gebran Bassil said refugees who have lost their property in Syria will have a reduced incentive to return. He urged the Syrian government to amend the law.

Also on Tuesday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reiterated his position that his government would not allow Iran to maintain a military presence anywhere inside Syria.

"I have made clear our red lines many times, and we will enforce them without compromise," he said.

His comments come amid a flurry of military and diplomatic movements over the control of southwestern Syria, bordering the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.

The Syrian government says it is planning to recapture rebel-held parts of the region, raising concerns its regional backers Iran and the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah — both archrivals of Israel — will take up positions along the frontier.

A senior Russian diplomat said Tuesday that his country is pushing for a quick meeting with the United States and Jordan to discuss security provisions for southwestern Syria. In remarks carried by Russian news agencies, Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov said the trilateral consultations should be held "the sooner the better." The Russian outlet Russia Today said the talks are expected within a week.

The state-run RIA Novosti news agency said Moscow wants to cut a deal that would see Russian military police deployed to areas near Israel. The agreement would envisage the pullout of all Iranian forces from the area and require the rebels to surrender heavy weapons.

Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman is set to travel to Russia on Wednesday to discuss the matter. Russia is a key ally of Assad.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article212092134.html#storylink=cpy

The aftermath of the Ghouta siege.

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سيف الله
05-30-2018, 08:38 PM
Salaam

Another update

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hinabutt
05-31-2018, 11:49 AM
May Allah protect us all. Ameen

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May Allah protect us all. May Allah protect Syria :) Ameen
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JustTime
06-01-2018, 08:33 PM
Interesting developments
https://twitter.com/Saad_Alsabr/stat...68488226963457
The people of Raqqa demanding the Kurds leave the city
https://twitter.com/jisrtv/status/1002512850005393409
Kurds and Iraqi PMU are clashing
https://twitter.com/EHSANI22/status/1002603128053694465
Kurds also say they are ready to fight Assad

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JustTime
06-04-2018, 04:49 AM
A Syrian cleric loyal to the regime has condemned government troops and allied militias for looting homes in the recently recaptured Yarmouk Palestinian refugee camp.


Sheikh Mohammed al-Omari made on the remarks on Wednesday on his Facebook page before deleting the critical post, opposition news website Zaman al-Wasl reported.
"The victory was achieved by the grace of God then by the wise leadership," Omari, a Palestinian Syrian, said.
"But the flagrant looting has frustrated people. This has hurt the feeling of many people, especially the families of the martyrs and wounded who have risen to defend the country,"
Omari also appealed to President Bashar al-Assad to take action to stop regime troops from looting in the Damascus district.
Regime troops and allied militias have long been accused of pillaging civilian homes after capturing rebel-held areas.
Syrian troops seized control of Yarmouk and other neighbourhoods in the south of the capital Damascus on Monday after a month-long assault against the Islamic State group.

The offensive for Yarmouk has left the neighbourhood, once home to about 200,000 Palestinian refugees, catastrophically damaged.
Yarmouk has been so heavily battered by fighting that it was hard to picture daily life restarting there, the United Nations' Palestine refugee agency (UNRWA) said on Tuesday.



"Today Yarmouk lies in ruins, with hardly a house untouched by the conflict," spokesman Chris Gunness said.
Fighting over the years had whittled down Yarmouk's population to just hundreds by the time Syria's army began its assault last month.
Gunness said between 100 to 200 civilians were estimated to still be in Yarmouk, including people too old or sick to flee.
Yarmouk was, for decades, a bustling district where both Palestinians and Syrians lived.
It was placed under crippling siege a year after the uprising began in 2011.


https://www.albawaba.com/news/syrian...ldiers-1136356


Syrian regime forces killed an elder woman in al Yarmouk Camp in Damascus city on May 18

Mrs. Thahabiya Fahd Abo Rashed, from al Yarmouk Camp south of Damascus city, age 85, killed due to Syrian regime forces heavy bombing on al Yarmouk Camp, on May 18, 2018.




http://sn4hr.org/sites/news/2018/05/...s-city-may-18/

15 Palestinian refugees killed in Syrian regime shelling on Yarmouk camp

The bodies of 15 Palestinian refugees who were killed by regime shelling have been found in Yarmouk refugee camp, the Working Group for the Palestinians in Syria said yesterday.
The rights group went on to demand medical and civil defence teams be allowed access to the Palestinian refugee camp to recover the bodies from under the rubble.
Following the Assad regime’s brutal air raids against Syria’s largest refugee camp, the United Nations said the regime “turned it into a death camp”.
“The Yarmouk camp in Damascus lies today in ruins, with hardly a single building that has not been destroyed or damaged. The fighting has been particularly intense in the last month or more. Almost all the Palestine refugees who were there have now fled,” United Nations Secretary-General’s Spokesman Stéphane Dujarric said last week.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...-yarmouk-camp/

Yarmouk, A Palestinian Tragedy Plays Out In Syria

Yarmouk: Stories of building collapses and neighbors killed reverberate around the diaspora through voice-notes and pictures sent almost the minute fleeing residents emerge from the camp. In one, an elderly Palestinian man cries into his phone, “The street has become dust … my house is gone, gone!” to the sound of shelling behind him. Others recount civilians hiding in basements for days on end with no news, or elderly neighbors dying in their homes for nobody to rescue them.

The Yarmouk Camp for Palestinian refugees and the areas of south Damascus have been the site of a grueling “zero-hour” offensive since April 19, as the Syrian government moved to wrest back control of the area from jihadi and rebel groups. On Monday, the last Islamic State fighters pulled out from Yarmouk and Hajar al-Aswad toward the deserts in Syria’s east, marking the first time the Syrian government has been in full control of the capital since the beginning of the Syrian uprising and conflict.
Over the last month that the military operation has played out, the Syrian government’s consolidation over these areas was preceded by extensive “evacuations.” In a repeat of the kind of coercive agreements that have been imposed by the Syrian government and its allies on rebel-held, besieged areas like Daraya since 2016, the three partially besieged rebel-held villages of Yalda, Babila and Beit Sahem capitulated to reconciliation at the close of April and ultimately accepted forcible deportations north, according to the state news agency SANA. Tahrir al-Sham militants were bused out of northern Yarmouk, before Syrian rebel fighters and their families, as well as Palestinian refugees, in the last rebel-held pockets of south Damascus boarded buses bound for a series of rural camp settlements in Syria’s rebel-held north.
An earlier “de-escalation” agreement reached with Russian guarantees and Egyptian mediation in October 2017 failed to bring an end to violence. The villages have been at partial truce with the Syrian government since 2014.
While the evacuation deals are meant to offer civilians the choice to leave conflict zones and allow entry of humanitarian aid into war-afflicted areas, those in the areas view them as compulsory in the face of possible reprisals for staying.
Palestinian activist and photographer Hamada Hameed felt he had no choice but to flee south Damascus, given that the rebel-held neighborhood he had called home since fleeing Yarmouk has now been returned to Syrian government and Russian control.
“The biggest mistake someone can make is to stay behind, regardless of what [the Syrian government] says about getting people to stay. Anyone who carried a camera, was an activist at some point … defected from the Syrian military or faces military service, they should not stay,” Hameed says. “Those who leave meanwhile head toward an unknown fate.”
And against the backdrop of the military operations and evacuations are the less widely disseminated scenes captured in the voice-notes and pictures, some of which were obtained by Mada Masr, from civilians who have remained in the south Damascus suburbs and Yarmouk living under almost daily bombardment. While buildings were turned to ruin and Palestinians in and around the camp struggled to survive, the presence of various pro-government Palestinian forces in the battle may be an early indication about the future of a camp whose post-conflict reconstruction may level Yarmouk’s once varied social and political fabric.
At least 21 civilians have been reported killed, and 7,000 people — including 6,200 Palestinian refugees from Syria — displaced from their homes.
Convoy Number Five
Before the Islamic State’s departure from south Damascus, deportations did not go smoothly.
The fifth convoy to leave rebel-held south Damascus, Qafleh raqam al-khamis, was held for almost a week at the last government checkpoint on the road to northern Syria at the beginning of May because of poor coordination between the Russian negotiators who brokered the deportation deal and the Turkish military present in the north. Others, however, blamed the delay on intra-rebel clashes then happening nearby. Passengers slept on buses at night, taking shelter from the sun by the roadside during the day.

Rubble in Yarmouk — Photo: Action Group for Palestinians in Syria
New arrivals are being housed in camps for internally displaced persons in rural Idlib and Afrin that many inside the camps say are poorly serviced and far from what they signed up for as part of the April “reconciliation” agreement. Some are attempting the perilous journey to get smuggled across the border into Turkey instead.
“There’s little food in the camp … no electricity and the camp is very far from any of the local markets. The closest one is about 20 km away,” explains Palestinian human rights defender Abdallah al-Khateeb, who was in one of the first buses to head north from south Damascus. “During the negotiations, the Russians said they’d contacted the Turkish government and that everyone evacuated would be allowed to enter Jarablus. The first two convoys entered, but the fifth was not allowed.”
According to the North Syria Response Coordination, some 9,250 people eventually evacuated north. However, sources inside the rebel-held villages of Yalda, Babila and Beit Sahem tell Mada Masr that the original number of names registered for evacuation could have been as high as 17,000 until word got back to civilians in south Damascus about Convoy Number Five and the lack of services being made available in the north and some decided not to go. Families have been separated as a result.
The northern entrance of Yarmouk was transformed into a military staging-post.
Following weeks of daily bombardment by Syrian and Russian airstrikes, barrel bombs and artillery, as well as brutal street fighting, much of the south Damascus suburbs are in ruins.
Throughout the military offensive, government supporters raised doubts about the presence of civilians in the area. The pro-government Al-Watan newspaper called into question claims that there are — or were — civilians still inside Yarmouk, and the Central channel of Hmeimem military base Facebook page dismissed what it called “allegations of civilian casualties,” claiming pro-government fighters were “only faced by extremists belonging to the Islamic State terrorist organization.”
However, civilians either inside Yarmouk or who had recently fled described how “houses are being destroyed and people are trapped under the rubble.”
London-based monitor Action Group for Palestinians of Syria (AGPS) reported that Palestinian refugee Mahmoud al-Bash, his wife and infant child were rescued alive from under the rubble of their home on April 27 after it was bombarded by pro-government forces several days before. The family had been presumed dead, until Bash was discovered.
Earlier that month, husband and wife Mohamed and Haifa al-Hadba were taking shelter in their home when it was shelled, according to Yarmouk activists. With his wife injured, Mohamed made the difficult choice to carry her by night across the camp to the home of a relative. Hours after arriving, that building was also shelled and both of them died.
Local activists and AGPS say at least 35 Palestinians have been killed so far in this offensive, including 21 civilians.
Almost all of the 6,200 Palestinians who were still inside their homes in Yarmouk at the beginning of the offensive have fled into neighboring areas.
Control of Yarmouk’s future
Pro-government forces have been gearing up for the battle for south Damascus since the end of the eastern Ghouta campaign. The front lines were a who's-who of pro-government militia politics.
Aleppo-based Palestinian militia Liwa al-Quds dispatched forces to Yarmouk in April, fresh from the front-lines of Eastern Ghouta, with one of its leading commanders promising that “after the liberation of Ghouta, we will … liberate Yarmouk.” Syrian military units followed, before Suheil al-Hassan’s Russian-backed Tiger Forces arrived in the area in mid-April. They joined a polyglot Syrian and Palestinian force of some several thousand men that included National Defence Forces, a privately funded Palestinian militia, as well as old-guard Palestinian factions including Fatah al-Intifada and Ahmad al-Jibril’s Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC).
Many still believe they will return to the camp one day.
The northern entrance of Yarmouk was transformed into a military staging-post where tanks and armored vehicles sat side-by-side and troop movements were soundtracked by pro-government dabke songs. A so-called “camp of return” hosted by ageing Palestinian resistance fighters was set up to receive newly arrived fighters and calibrate the future of a place once known as the “capital of the Palestinian diaspora.”
Since then, former residents and observers tell Mada Masr that Yarmouk runs the risk of being erased. Should this happen to what was once Syria’s largest Palestinian community, questions will be raised as to the future of the Palestinian-Syrian community itself. Others believe the camp as it existed has gone forever, but that it will ultimately be rebuilt in some form.
An estimated one-fifth of Syria’s pre-war population of 560,000 Palestinians have fled the country. Almost all of the 438,000 who remain are largely reliant on aid. Internally displaced Palestinians in Damascus often talk of impossibly rising rents and prices, while in a post-conflict Syria, Palestinians will likely encounter similar legal difficulties as Syrian citizens attempting to return to their homes or recreate stable lives. Law 10/2018, effectively the blueprint for the reconstruction of Syria, could dispossess those unable to prove ownership of their homes. And even then, vast swathes of Yarmouk and other camps around the country have been badly destroyed.
Despite all that the civilians of Yarmouk Camp have suffered — military offensives, siege, starvation, detention and displacement — many still believe they will return to the camp one day. Seventy years after partition plans and machine guns in olive groves brought the first Nakba, today it arrives by bus. But with the destruction and possible erasure of Yarmouk, the possibility of rebuilding the political and social history of the camp may already have been demolished forever.

https://www.worldcrunch.com/syria-cr...s-out-in-syria

There's only one thought that comes to Rami al-Sayed's mind when asked to describe an ongoing Syrian government offensive against an ISIL pocket south of the capital, Damascus.
"Doomsday," says the 35-year-old. "It's like Judgement Day."
Al-Sayed is a former resident of Hajar al-Aswad, one of the neighbourhoods of the besieged Palestinian refugee camp of Yarmouk which is currently under attack by forces loyal to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and Russian fighter jets.
Activists say at least 15 civilians have been killed and more than 100 wounded since the fierce push to retake Hajar al-Aswad, Tadamun and Beit Sahem - which make up a considerable chunk of Yarmouk - began on April 19.
Before the Syrian war started in 2011, the camp was home to Syria's largest Palestinian refugee population.
In the years that followed, most of its residents fled to other parts of Syria or neighbouring countries seeking refuge. In 2015 Yarmouk came under the control of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS) group.
The six-day operation by Syrian government forces and their allies to drive out ISIL fighters has now turned the camp into a "ghost town", al-Sayed, who is currently based in the nearby rebel-held town of Yalda, told Al Jazeera on Monday.
"No clinics, no doctors, no supplies - it's pretty much empty," he added.
"People are not able to leave to purchase things they need. If they leave, they have to walk miles before seeing another person in the street; it is that uncommon to see people outside."
'Bigger siege'

The United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA) estimates that over the past few days some 5,000 Palestinians from Yarmouk have been displaced to Yalda. The agency, which cited "reports" for the figure, has not been able to provide assistance to the camp since 2015.
Local activists say there have been no "formal" evacuations, and those who managed to make it to neighbouring Yalda did so under a rebel-brokered agreement.
UNRWA spokesperson Chris Gunness told Al Jazeera that only 1,200 people remain inside Yarmouk, while activists in nearby towns held by rebel factions have given a similar figure.
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Yarmouk residents have had little access to the outside world, owing to a lack of cell service and a government-imposed siege in place since 2012. Activists in the area say these obstacles have made documenting the number of people killed and wounded in the camp a daunting task.
"The humanitarian situation in Yarmouk is simply indescribable," Ammar al-Midani, one of several Yalda-based activists who work on compiling information from Hajar al-Aswad through their communication with trapped civilians, told Al Jazeera on Monday.
"From surface-to-surface missiles to barrel and cluster bombs and mortar fire, simply disastrous," al-Midani said.
At times, al-Midani says activists like him are unable to reach residents who are hiding underground, other times, he says, they manage to get through to their friends and family in the area.
"People are terrified, mostly hiding in man-made bunkers. No one is able to reach those in the heart of the camp because of ISIL's control of the area - it's a new kind of siege."
Since last week, Syrian government forces and their allies have intensified efforts to regain all ground near Damascus.
Besides Yarmouk, their goal is to also drive out fighters from rebel groups Jaish al-Islam and Hay'et Tahrir al-Sham, which remain in control of pockets such as the towns of Yalda, Babbila, and al-Qadam - all of which lie south of Damascus and only one kilometre away from Yarmouk.
Palestinian leadership's silence

On Tuesday, government forces launched air raids in Yalda, killing 10 fighters from Jaish al-Islam, according to activists.
Meanwhile, state-news agency SANA said on Tuesday that government forces were targeting ISIL "tunnels and trenches" in Yarmouk.
According to activists, more than 580 air raids struck Hajar al-Aswad and Tadamun since Thursday evening, the majority of which targeted "civilian basements".
On Sunday, Yarmouk's only hospital was totally put out of service after being destroyed in an air raid.
READ MORE
UN tries to restart Syria talks after regime advances

Both al-Midani and al-Sayed said the toll of 15 victims so far included only those whose deaths were able to be documented, while others remain "unfound, and unaccounted for under the rubble".
Residents of the besieged camp have called on Palestinian leaders, including the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) - an umbrella of major Palestinian political parties - to help bring relief to the people of Yarmouk.
A journalist based in neighbouring Babbila, who identified himself only as Youssef, said people in the camp are puzzled as to why no one from the Palestinian leadership has spoken out about recent events affecting thousands of Palestinian refugees.
'A war on stomachs'

The escalation is the latest in a series of devastating episodes to have hit civilians in Yarmouk.
The camp was home to 160,000 Palestinian refugees before 2011. But as Syria slid into war, fighting between rebels and Syrian forces quickly extended to Yarmouk too, with residents paying the price of a deteriorating humanitarian situation.

Residents in Yarmouk line up to receive food supplies in 2014 [AP/UNRWA]


Over the years, the lack of food and medicine amid the siege, coupled with heavy battles - including between rebel groups - and the seizure of the camp by ISIL in 2015, pushed many to negotiate evacuation deals.
Among those forced to leave was Majd al-Masry. Born in the camp, the Palestinian former paramedic is now based in Yalda and among those documenting violations taking place in Yarmouk.
The closure of the camp's only "lifeline", a corridor that led to Yalda, during the siege was one of the cruelest war tactics, al-Masry said.
"A war on stomachs; a war on health; and a psychological war," he said, summarising the three years he witnessed at the camp before leaving in 2015.
"Managing attacks from multiple fronts, and diseases like salmonella, kidney failure, typhoid fever, and more - this was my life," al-Masry said.
'Annihilation'

The Syrian government has since 2015 regained control of the majority of Syria, with opposition groups now restricted to the northern part of the country, namely Idlib province.
It has thus far managed to regain large swaths of land through a series of evacuation deals that usually come amid a military offensive.
On Monday, Syrian state TV reported that government forces were moving to encircle ISIL fighters from the nearby rebel-held suburbs in an attempt to land an evacuation deal or a withdrawal.
Activists Al Jazeera spoke to said the "destruction" campaign in Yarmouk was a "classic" tactic employed by the government before such a deal.
Amid similar circumstances earlier this month, the government regained control of Eastern Ghouta, a major Damascus suburb that was once home to 400,000 people.
With the offensive in southern Damascus likely to mark the latest rebel defeat, the balance of power in Syria's war- now in its eighth year, keeps tilting in favour of Assad and his allies.
However, activists say the situation in Yarmouk cannot be described as a "war".
"We can't say this is a war. In war, there are emergency medical teams, hospitals, shelters, a chance for a truce and for safe corridors," al-Sayed said.
"But here, it's annihilation."

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...212111918.html


What's the difference between Assad and Israel?
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JustTime
06-04-2018, 05:55 AM
New group in Afrin demands East Ghouta refugees leave or face death

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...or-face-death/





BEIRUT, LEBANON (6:00 P.M.) – A new group in the Afrin region of northwest Aleppo issued a stern warning to the refugees from the East Ghouta about staying in this area.
The group calls themselves the “Afrin Hawks” – they are rumored to be a sleeper cell militia that is comprised of fighters from the People’s Protection Units (YPG).
According to the their statement, they demand that all East Ghouta refugees leave Afrin or face death at the hands of the Afrin Hawks.

The group added that they will also be targeting both women and children.
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سيف الله
06-05-2018, 02:57 PM
Salaam

Another update



More on the general conflict.







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JustTime
06-06-2018, 11:03 PM
URGENT!
https://twitter.com/MGhorab3/status/1004340688081874944

YPG-PKK is burning civilian houses in Tell Rifat


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Amnesty International says US-led strikes on Raqqa may amount to war crimes

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/05/middleeast/us-led-coalition-raqqa-war-crimes-intl/index.html
(CNN)Airstrikes by the US-led coalition in Raqqa, Syria, probably breached international humanitarian law and potentially amount to war crimes, according to a report by Amnesty International that is being hotly contested by the Pentagon.

The rights group accuses the coalition of killing and injuring thousands of civilians in attacks that were at times "disproportionate or indiscriminate," during its offensive to flush ISIS militants from their de facto capital.
"The coalition's claims that its precision air campaign allowed it to bomb (ISIS) out of Raqqa while causing very few civilian casualties do not stand up to scrutiny," said Amnesty's senior crisis response adviser, Donatella Rovera.
"On the ground in Raqqa we witnessed a level of destruction comparable to anything we've seen in decades of covering the impact of wars."

Syrians move along a destroyed street in Raqqa on February 18.




A spokesman for the US-led coalition fighting ISIS slammed the report, saying that Amnesty never approached the Pentagon about its findings and was out of line for suggesting the coalition has violated international law.








"They are literally judging us guilty until proven innocent, that's a bold rhetorical move by an organization that fails to check the public record or consult the accused," Col. Thomas Veale told reporters at the Pentagon via a video briefing from Baghdad.
"They never asked us for a comment, an interview, or a courtesy check of the draft, they also failed to check the public record thoroughly," Veale said.
He also criticized Amnesty for recommending that the coalition develop a process for canceling a strike if it's deemed indiscriminate or disproportionate, saying that the coalition already had this process in place.
Veale added that the number of civilian casualties can't ever be really known.
"As far as how do we know how many civilians were killed -- I'm just being honest, no one will ever know," Veale said. "Anyone who claims they will know is lying."
The report, "War of Annihilation," details the loss of civilian life in Raqqa, based on interviews with 112 civilians at the sites of 42 coalition airstrikes.
It illustrates the cases of four civilian families who, between them, lost 90 relatives and neighbors, including 39 from one family alone. Almost all were killed by coalition airstrikes, the report alleges.
"They are part of a wider pattern and provide a strong prima facie case that many coalition attacks that killed and injured civilians and destroyed homes and infrastructure violated international humanitarian law," the report states.
The report illustrates the difficult choice many civilians faced of either choosing to flee and be killed by ISIS snipers or risk being hit in coalition strikes.

The US-led coalition says it does everything it can to minimize harm to civlians in its airstrikes.




The Badran family, which lost 39 members and 10 neighbors in four separate coalition strikes, fled from place to place as front lines in the city rapidly shifted.
Rasha Badran, one of the survivors, told Amnesty that she thought the coalition forces would target only ISIS militants.
"We were naive. By the time we realized how dangerous it had become everywhere, it was too late; we were trapped," she told Amnesty.
Veale said that the coalition was willing to work with anyone to assess allegations of civilian casualties.
"I can tell you with confidence we are always willing to re-evaluate cases based on new or compelling evidence," Veale said, adding that, "as I speak people are looking at that article and trying to correlate those claims to the strike log and how the battle of Raqqa unfolded as our participation went in it."
"We are open to working with anyone," Veale said. "We are just as willing to work with Amnesty International, as I said I wish we had worked with them earlier but they didn't come to us, they just went ahead and published"
Coalition 'leveled' Raqqa

The coalition's offensive in Raqqa began a year ago, with US, British and French forces taking part.
Tens of thousands of airstrikes were carried out in the city, Amnesty said, adding that US forces "admitted to firing 30,000 artillery rounds during the offensive." It said US forces were responsible for 90% of coalition strikes.
Amnesty said that ISIS' four-year rule in Raqqa was "rife with war crimes," but that did not relieve the coalition of its obligation to minimize harm against civilians.
"What leveled the city and killed and injured so many civilians was the US-led coalition's repeated use of explosive weapons in populated areas where they knew civilians were trapped. Even precision weapons are only as precise as their choice of targets," Rovera said.
Responding to the report, the US-led mission to Syria said it made rigorous efforts to avoid civilian casualties.
"The coalition applies rigorous standards to our targeting process and takes extraordinary efforts to protect non-combatants," it said in a statement sent to CNN.
It added that it had been transparent about its strikes and routinely assessed any allegations of civilian casualties. It is committed to transparency "when civilian casualties unintentionally occur," the statement said.

Amnesty International is accusing the US-led coalition of flattening the city of Raqqa.




A British Ministry of Defense spokesperson said its mission in Syria fully complied with international humanitarian law, also adding it had been open and transparent throughout the offensive and detailed each of its nearly 1,700 strikes.
"We do everything we can to minimize the risk to civilian life through our rigorous targeting processes and the professionalism of the (Royal Air Force) crews but, given the ruthless and inhuman behavior of (ISIS), and the congested, complex urban environment in which we operate, we must accept that the risk of inadvertent civilian casualties is ever present," the spokesperson said in statement.

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Syria's Assad Raises Possibility Of Conflict With U.S. Forces, Allies

https://www.rferl.org/a/syrian-presi.../29262810.html

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has raised the possibility of conflict between his army and U.S. forces in Syria if they do not withdraw from the country soon -- prompting a warning from the Pentagon.
In an interview with Russia's RT television on May 31, Assad asserted that he is willing to negotiate with Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) that are allied with and embedded with U.S. forces and currently hold about one-quarter of Syria's territory.
But he said he will reclaim their territory by force, if necessary.
"The only problem left in Syria is the SDF," Assad told RT, adding he sees "two options" for solving the "problem."
"The first one: We started now opening doors for negotiations. Because the majority of them are Syrians, supposedly they like their country. They don't like to be puppets to any foreigners," Assad said in English.
"We have one option: to live with each other as Syrians. If not, we're going to resort...to liberating those areas by force."
Assad added that "the Americans should leave." He said Washington should learn a "lesson" from its experience in Iraq.
"People will not accept foreigners in this region anymore," he said.
Assad's threat to use force against U.S. allies in Syria and about 2,000 American troops providing them with air support and training prompted a warning from the Pentagon.
"Any interested party in Syria should understand that attacking U.S. forces or our coalition partners will be a bad policy," Lieutenant General Kenneth McKenzie, director of the Joint Staff, said at a press conference in Washington on May 31.
The U.S. State Department also said that while Washington is not seeking conflict with Syria, it would use "necessary and proportionate force" to defend U.S. and partner forces, which have teamed up to fight Islamic State militants in the region.
Meanwhile, SDF spokesman Gabriel Kino replied to Assad's remarks by saying the Syrian Kurdish-led militia would "fight back fiercely" against "any attack."
'"But we all know that a new battle will not do any good for anyone," Kino said on June 1. "It will just add more miseries to the people of Syria."
In the RT interview, Assad responded sharply to U.S. President Donald Trump's recent description of him as an "animal," saying, "What you say is what you are."
Backed by Russian air power and Iranian and Hizbullah militias on the ground, Assad's forces have gained significant ground in recent months in the seven-year civil war that has killed an estimated half a million people and driven another 5 million abroad as refugees.
After regaining control of Syria's two largest cities -- Aleppo and Damascus -- Assad this spring set his sights on areas in the country that remain outside his control and in rebel hands.
The Kurdish militia group SDF that is backed by the United States holds the largest area of Syrian territory outside government control, but it has tried to avoid direct clashes with the government during the multisided war.
Kino Gabriel, a spokesman for the SDF, said in response to Assad's comments that a military solution would "lead to more losses and destruction and difficulties for the Syrian people."
The SDF wants a "democratic system based on diversity, equality, freedom, and justice" for all the country's ethnic and religious groups, he said in a voice message to Reuters.
Assad in the RT interview also sought to minimize the extent of Iran's presence in Syria. Israel, which is alarmed by what it claims is a growing Iranian military presence in Syria, has recently destroyed dozens of military sites that it claimed were occupied and used by Iranian forces and Hizbullah militias.
But Assad said Iran's presence in Syria has been limited to officers assisting the army. Apparently referring to a May 10 air strike by Israel, Assad said: "We had tens of Syrian martyrs and wounded soldiers, not a single Iranian casualty."
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an independent Britain-based war-monitoring group, has said at least 68 Iranians and pro-Iranian forces have been killed in Israeli air strikes since April.
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