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truthseeker63
05-18-2012, 04:44 AM
I being born in the USA I was taught to respect the President Most Americans I meet seem to Idolize American Presidents. It is a Cult of Personality in my view. The American Presidents/Politicians are Puppets of the Wealthy/The Rich Big Money/Profit Corporations Banks the Media and the Lobbyists. Many Americans that I know think that the President and other past Presidents and other Politicians care about the people and the poor and the homeless are the Politicians Liars ? Also are these Politicians just good Christians or do they have a agenda thank you ?



Whether lobbyists work for a large organization, a private individual, or the general public, their goals and strategies are the same. First and foremost, lobbyists must be adept at the art of persuasion, which is the mainstay of their job. They must figure out how to sway politicians to vote on legislation in a way that favors the interest they represent. This means tailoring appeals to specific individuals as well as to group voting blocs, such as Southerners or pro-choicers. Lobbyists also occasionally lobby one another. When normally opposing groups find a common area of interest and can present a united front they are extremely effective.


http://www.princetonreview.com/careers.aspx?cid=88
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GodIsAll
05-18-2012, 02:54 PM
Its all a bunch of garbage. This goes for any political leader anywhere in the world, especially if they have to be elected.
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Who Am I?
05-18-2012, 03:01 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by GodIsAll
Its all a bunch of garbage. This goes for any political leader anywhere in the world, especially if they have to be elected.
Yes, this. All politicians are liars.

Well maybe not all, but I have yet to really see or hear anything about an honest politician.

It's all part of the Vast Conspiracy...
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BadOlPuttyTat
05-18-2012, 03:04 PM
American politicians are the king of liars
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Aprender
05-18-2012, 03:41 PM
Yes. That is all.
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marwen
05-18-2012, 03:49 PM
Politician and liar are synonyms.

To be a politician you have to be a liar.
To be a good politician you have to be a mythomaniac.

American leaders are good politicians.
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Pygoscelis
05-18-2012, 03:49 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by GodIsAll
Its all a bunch of garbage. This goes for any political leader anywhere in the world, especially if they have to be elected.
Exactly. This has nothing to do with American or Western politicians. This is all politicians. An honest politician is like a short giant or dry water.
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ProudMuslimSis
05-18-2012, 06:42 PM
So what is the solution?
Would Campaign Reform help?

Big money that buys access and influence in Washington dominates our policies and corrupts our politics. The only way to get big money out of politics is to cut politicians’ dependence on big campaign contributions. http://www.acrreform.org/
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truthseeker63
05-18-2012, 10:13 PM
I don't believe or think that only American and or Western Politicans/Political Leaders lie Im sure that there are Political Leaders who claim to be Christians that are liars as well as Political Leaders who claim to be Jewish and Im sure there are Political Leaders that claim to be Muslims that are liars. I don't believe that lying Politicans is limited to just one Religion Nation or Nations. I think American Politicans want to be elected and or to win votes therefor they will say anything in a Political Speech or in a Political Debate or at a Political Rally just to get elected. Politicans are very Wealthy they don't care about the Poor People or the Homeless or the Sick of any Religion Race or Nation Politicans just pretend to care about helping People or promoting Economic Justice. Democrats and Republicans in America are just two sides of the same coin both support Capitalism/Corporations/War for Profit. I just don't think President Obama George Bush or Bill Clinton lay awake at night worrying about the Homeless People in America or in any other Nation for that matter. Yes I know America and other Western Nations have minimum wage laws unemployment insurance social security profit sharing medicare medicaid and welfare and food stamps but does the Government give the People these things out of compassion for others and because they are good hearted Christians or is it because they want to be elected and to get votes and if the Government stopped sending out Welfare Checks the Poor would riot commit crime and there would be a revolution ? The Government wants People to Depend on the Government.



100,000 welfare recipients in Berlin threatened with eviction

By Ernst Wolff
3 March 2012


Under welfare legislation (known as Hartz IV) first introduced by Germany’s former Social Democratic-Green government headed by Gerhard Schröder, the monthly rent for single recipients in Berlin must not exceed 378 euros. The limit for couples is €444 and for a three-person household €542. For a family of four, the maximum rent is €619. If the apartment is subject to a rent increase that exceeds these limits then the apartment must be vacated. If this does not take place voluntarily then the tenant will be removed and relocated by force.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/ma...berl-m03.shtml

Myth: The poor receive the most welfare.

Fact: Corporations receive the most welfare.


Summary

Entitlement spending on households is surprisingly "flat" in the U.S. -- the spending is distributed proportionately among the various income groups. However, federal spending tilts in favor of the rich when you add corporate welfare to the mix. And this pro-wealthy favoritism becomes more pronounced when you consider who is paying for it: over the last few decades, the tax rates for the rich have sharply fallen, both in personal income and corporate taxes.



As you can see, federal entitlements are distributed proportionately among the income groups (with insignificant shifts towards the poor and the very rich). If taxes were flat as well under this distribution system, then Uncle Sam would simply be returning everyone's money to them -- a pointless and wasteful exercise, everyone would agree. It's only when taxes are more progressive that income is shifted downward under the above system. For this reason, the loss of tax progressivity over the last several decades means that less income is being redistributed to the poor, and Uncle Sam is increasingly engaging in a pointless exercise:


http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-corporatewelfare.htm
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Scimitar
05-18-2012, 10:19 PM
Look guys, you gotta understand that a politician is the kinda guy who can tell you to eff off in such a way, he'll make you look forward to the trip... these guys are not just liars - but the ones who made an art out of lying, and gave it a fancy name - "politics".

Scimi
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truthseeker63
05-18-2012, 10:33 PM
The Cia the Fbi the Army and the Police are a part of the American Government correct ? Does the President lead control or head the Cia Fbi and the Army and the Police ? Though out history these institutions have been viewed as oppressive do you agree or disagree ?

Bill O'Reilly Goes Head-to-Head With Rapper Who Called Obama a Terrorist

Uploaded by FoxNewsInsider on Jun 20, 2011
Monday, Bill O'Reilly went head-to-head with rapper Lupe Fiasco, who has accused the president of terrorism. In a previous interview, Fiasco said, "To me, the biggest terrorist is Obama."

The rapper put his comments in context as saying they were "an expression of me trying to, I guess, understand critically the society." O'Reilly defended the president, saying "President Obama is not a terrorist. He's trying to do what he believes is the right thing to do."
Bill said that he's concerned that Fiasco's fans are impressionable kids who are taking his message to heart. Fiasco stood by his position, saying, "I don't think politics are as complex as people like to make them seem."

The rapper went on to claim, "If you are going to fight terrorism, to me, you fight the root causes of terrorism." Bill, again, backed up the president and U.S. foreign policies, saying, "The United States cannot cure ills in the world. What the President of the United States' responsibility is is to protect you and me. That's his responsibility and he's doing it through aggressive action."

For more from the Fox News Insider, check out http://foxnewsinsider.com.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmM9_Y5uiW4
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truthseeker63
05-18-2012, 10:34 PM
Also are the Mossad the Israeli Army and the Israeli Police institutions of the Israeli Government ?

Lavon Affair

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned targets. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.[2] The operation caused no casualties, except for those members of the cell who committed suicide after being captured.
The operation became known as the Lavon Affair after the Israeli defense minister Pinhas Lavon, who was forced to resign because of the incident, or euphemistically as the Unfortunate Affair or The Bad Business (Hebrew: העסק ביש‎, HaEsek Bish or העסק הביש, HaEsek HaBish). After being denied for 51 years, the surviving agents were in 2005 officially honored with a certificate of appreciation by the Israeli President Moshe Katzav.[3]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
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Darth Ultor
05-18-2012, 10:34 PM
American politicians go beyond the "acceptable" form of liar. They trample on our Constitutional liberties and the citizens are fed up
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Muezzin
05-18-2012, 10:47 PM
Politicians use the truth to tell lies.

Writes use lies to tell the truth.

(V for Vendetta FTW)
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Darth Ultor
05-19-2012, 01:19 AM
No, you're screwing it all up. It's "Artists use lies to tell the truth, while politicians use them to cover the truth up."
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White Rose
05-19-2012, 01:30 AM
Yes. Like others said.
Also, I read that a good leader is the one who does not want to be a leader but people want him to be a leader. I don't see that happening here anymore.
Even our current leader is swinging left and right to get votes this year. He is not even trying to hide his intentions. Its really pathetic.
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Who Am I?
05-21-2012, 05:13 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by arjmand
Yes. Like others said.
Also, I read that a good leader is the one who does not want to be a leader but people want him to be a leader. I don't see that happening here anymore.
Even our current leader is swinging left and right to get votes this year. He is not even trying to hide his intentions. Its really pathetic.
Yep. The gay marriage thing, anyone? Does anyone want to tell me that it was not a ploy to get votes in an election year?
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truthseeker63
05-23-2012, 06:53 AM
Gamal Abdel Nasser was he good or bad for Egypt ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamal_Abdel_Nasser
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truthseeker63
05-23-2012, 06:55 AM
Shah of Iran Warns the World About the Jewish Lobby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMJzGDxOuIk

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truthseeker63
05-23-2012, 06:58 AM
Was Muammar Gaddafi a Socialist ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Book_(Libya)
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truthseeker63
05-25-2012, 02:53 AM
Does anyone agree with this video below ?

Shah of Iran Warns the World About the Jewish Lobby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMJzGDxOuIk
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GodIsAll
05-26-2012, 02:29 AM
Barrack Obama said: "If elected, I will begin an immediate withdrawal of our troops from Iraq and Afghanistan."

George Bush, Sr said: "Read my lips - no new taxes!"

Bill Clinton said: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinski."

George W. Bush said...well...he said lots of things, mostly pronounced incorrectly.

Enough said, I think.
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Darth Ultor
05-26-2012, 12:01 PM
Obama the messiah *rolls yes* Promised everything under the sun. Even to stop the natural occurrence of climate change.
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Hulk
05-26-2012, 02:00 PM
I find it hard to trust a politician who makes sure that their good deeds are known by the public. I know it's a strange thing to say since if they don't show it how will we know but then again since they show it what does it say about their intention. Oh boy..
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Darth Ultor
05-26-2012, 03:23 PM
^ There is a difference between showing and advertising.
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truthseeker63
05-28-2012, 11:40 AM
A Jewish Defector Warns America By Benjamin H. Freedman


Introductory Note: Benjamin H. Freedman
was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20th century. Mr.
Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who
was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with
organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the
remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune,
at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped
the United States. Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had
been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish
machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally
acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin
Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers
of our times. This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the
Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic
newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this
wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's
essential message to us -- his warning to the West -- is more urgent than ever
before. -- K.A.S.


HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, the Zionists and their co-religionists have complete control of our government. For many reasons, too many and too complex to go into here at this time, the Zionists and their co-religionists rule these United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country. Now you may say that is a very broad statement, but let me show you what happened while we were all asleep.

http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/freedman.html
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truthseeker63
05-28-2012, 11:43 AM
Alex Jones - "I Support Israel Its Their Land" Zionism


Uploaded by o1OpTiMuS1o on Apr 22, 2010Early Zionist Alex Jones wants it out in the open that he Supports Israel because its their Land.

1.) He has a Jewish wife named Kelly Rebeca Nichols, and he has three(3) children with her.
2.) He and his Jewish wife and children all qualify for Israeli citizenship under Israel's "Law of Return".
3.) He has at least twenty(20) Jewish sponsors and advertizers that financially support his radio show and websites.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdK1WZX2rx4
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truthseeker63
05-28-2012, 11:46 AM
JESUS WAS NOT A Jew

Benjamin H. Freedman, Jewish Historian - Researcher - Scholar.
From "Common Sense", p. 2-1-53 and 5-1-59

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm
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Darth Ultor
05-28-2012, 03:14 PM
Yes he was.
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truthseeker63
05-28-2012, 10:57 PM
No he was not.
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Darth Ultor
05-28-2012, 11:00 PM
Says who? I know in Islam all prophets were considered Muslims but the ones before Muhammad never actually called themselves Muslims. Jesus was born, raised, lived, and died as a Jew.
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truthseeker63
05-28-2012, 11:01 PM
Jesus was not a Jew. Most Jews come from the Khazar Nation who converted to Judaism. Jews are a religion not a race.
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Darth Ultor
05-28-2012, 11:04 PM
Am I missing something here?
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truthseeker63
05-28-2012, 11:12 PM
The Jews claim to be a race because of Zionism if Jews were viewed as a only a religion Zinism would have no support.
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Darth Ultor
05-28-2012, 11:26 PM
Then you're a moron. The Nuremberg trials had shown documented evidence with the signatures and handwriting of the defendants showing it was all real. They even admited to it. Some even said they killed more than what was revealed. And what in the blue hell does Zionism have to do with anything? Zionism was an ideology invented in the 1800's. The religion Jesus followed in life was Judaism. End of story, goodbye.
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truthseeker63
05-28-2012, 11:29 PM
Call me a idiot if you wish but if believe Jews are superior go ahead. Are you one of those Christians who believes we must worship the Jews as God's chosen people ? By the way even if the Holocaust did happen why would Palestine have to suffer for what the Germans did ?
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Darth Ultor
05-28-2012, 11:30 PM
Learn how to read, little boy. I never said anything like that. You wanna ask me about Palestine, the Israelis had no right to do what they did but the country of Israel exists now. But they have no reason to build settlements or occupy designated Palestinian areas.
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truthseeker63
05-28-2012, 11:31 PM
Why do you only care about the Jews who died in World War 2 ? Do you not care about the Russians the Chinese the Polish the Americans the Japanese who died why does the Media only care about the Jews ? Is a Jewish life more important then a life of a Gentile ?
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truthseeker63
05-28-2012, 11:33 PM
Jesus was not a Jew he was a Muslim he was neither a Jew or a Christian.
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truthseeker63
05-28-2012, 11:33 PM
Jews want to claim the Prophets as their own.
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Darth Ultor
05-28-2012, 11:34 PM
No, all the victims were equally important in my view. Like I said, kid, learn how to read. And Jesus NEVER called himself a Muslim. He may have been one who submitted to God, but not once did he ever say "My religion is Islam".
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Muezzin
06-02-2012, 08:34 PM
Guys, this thread is spiralling out of control. Sort it out, or it will be closed.
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GuestFellow
06-02-2012, 09:33 PM
Salaam,

I wouldn't say all of them lie. I would say that most of them conceal information. I suppose you could call that lying by omission?
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truthseeker63
06-03-2012, 08:14 AM
Photo speaks truth.


Attachment 4867
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White Rose
06-03-2012, 04:10 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Who Am I?
Yep. The gay marriage thing, anyone? Does anyone want to tell me that it was not a ploy to get votes in an election year?
Yes exactly. I wonder what more will he agree to.:skeleton:
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Who Am I?
06-03-2012, 04:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by arjmand
Yes exactly. I wonder what more will he agree to.:skeleton:
The thing that sickens me is that many people hailed it as a brilliant move, and were heaping praises on Obama for being the first candidate to publicly support gay marriage. Do they seriously not see it for what it is: a political ploy? Or do they just not care?
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Scimitar
06-03-2012, 04:40 PM
They don't care, people feel safe as sheeple. This is the reality of today, and this is where mankind fails itself.

Scimi
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Who Am I?
06-03-2012, 04:52 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar
They don't care, people feel safe as sheeple. This is the reality of today, and this is where mankind fails itself.

Scimi
Well, it's all part of the Vast Conspiracy of Satan and his minions. First they divide us, then they dumb us down, then they make us feel good about it...
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Darth Ultor
06-03-2012, 04:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Who Am I?
The thing that sickens me is that many people hailed it as a brilliant move, and were heaping praises on Obama for being the first candidate to publicly support gay marriage. Do they seriously not see it for what it is: a political ploy? Or do they just not care?
The gay community of the US actually believe Obama to be a filthy liar, which he is.
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Who Am I?
06-03-2012, 05:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Darth Ultor
The gay community of the US actually believe Obama to be a filthy liar, which he is.
Well that is something, at least. Now the question is, will they still vote for him even if they know he is a liar?
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Darth Ultor
06-03-2012, 05:28 PM
Depends on how Romney is.
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Aprender
06-03-2012, 05:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Darth Ultor
The gay community of the US actually believe Obama to be a filthy liar, which he is.
Are you sure? A lot of them sure are touting their "Yay Obama" signs around for what he said in support of gay "marriage". The young ones at least.
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Scimitar
06-03-2012, 06:45 PM
Guys guys guys guys...

sorry to jumo in like this but, you do realise that all the presidents of the USofA were decided in Bohemian Grove, right?

This voting malarky is an illusion to make the American public feel as if they have an influence on the process of election. It's a con.

If you do not believe me, I got about 40 hours of proof to throw at you... it's not pretty and it will make your heads hurt quite a bit.

Do not for one second think that your vote counts... it's a stage play.

Scimi
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White Rose
06-03-2012, 07:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Who Am I?
The thing that sickens me is that many people hailed it as a brilliant move, and were heaping praises on Obama for being the first candidate to publicly support gay marriage. Do they seriously not see it for what it is: a political ploy? Or do they just not care?
Actually, I read this news on yahoo and many people pointed out that it is a ploy to gain votes. But I guess they are minority.
Problem with America is that, they are losing morals behind this thing called liberty. If you try to reason with them, they will label you as a caveman;D

format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar
Guys guys guys guys...

sorry to jumo in like this but, you do realise that all the presidents of the USofA were decided in Bohemian Grove, right?

This voting malarky is an illusion to make the American public feel as if they have an influence on the process of election. It's a con.

If you do not believe me, I got about 40 hours of proof to throw at you... it's not pretty and it will make your heads hurt quite a bit.

Do not for one second think that your vote counts... it's a stage play.

Scimi
Good call brother. I recently realized this as well. I used to think that everything was fair in west unlike east where the votes didn't count. Turns out its the same everywhere but the tactics are different.
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GuestFellow
06-03-2012, 09:57 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar
Guys guys guys guys...

sorry to jumo in like this but, you do realise that all the presidents of the USofA were decided in Bohemian Grove, right?

This voting malarky is an illusion to make the American public feel as if they have an influence on the process of election. It's a con.

If you do not believe me, I got about 40 hours of proof to throw at you... it's not pretty and it will make your heads hurt quite a bit.

Do not for one second think that your vote counts... it's a stage play.

Scimi
Salaam,

Show this proof.
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Abz2000
06-03-2012, 10:04 PM
"Those who cast the votes decide nothing.
Those who count the votes decide everything."

—Communist Tyrant and mass murderer Josef Stalin
(attributed)


"It doesn't matter who the people voted for; they always vote for us".

- Illuminati Statement -



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Scimitar
06-04-2012, 04:14 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Tragic Typos
Salaam,

Show this proof.
Wassalaam bro Tragic Typos.

It's all over the net bro, just type in Bohemian Grove and will be amazed at what you find there. 33rd degree + masons (illuminati) and even further up the food chain, the Skull and Bones society... these are the ones you wanna keep your eyes on.

Also, I was gonna post some vids but you know, Bro Abz has already gotten there before me.

I do not vote. I do not care to vote. I do not wish to be a fool.

Scimi
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Abz2000
06-04-2012, 04:28 AM



Summer, 1967 at Owls Nest Camp (bohemian grove) with two future U.S. presidents.
Around the table, left to right: Preston Hotchkis, Ronald Reagan, Harvey Hancock (standing), Richard Nixon, Glenn T. Seaborg, Jack Sparks, (unidentified individual), (unidentified individual), and Edwin W. Pauley. Retrieved July 15, 2009.

Richard Milhous Nixon (January 9, 1913 – April 22, 1994) was the 37th President of the United States, serving from 1969 to 1974.

Ronald Wilson Reagan (

/ˈrɒnəld ˈwɪlsən ˈrɡən/; February 6, 1911 – June 5, 2004) was the 40th President of the United States, serving from 1981 to 1989.

a very tight knit family it seems.

it doesn't matter who u vote for, it'll always b one of them.

and regarding obama, watch the movie
The Great Debaters (2007)


just as his campaign was kicking in.
then you'll get an idea of how hollywood molds the minds before the election even begins.



“Backlash” Illuminati Card game card 1996

In 1990, role-playing inventor, Steve Jackson, was planning his newest game, which he would ultimately call the "Illuminati -- New World Order" Game, or "INWO" for short. Jackson was creating a game that would hit very, very close to home, very close to the actual plan of the Illuminati to propel the world into the New World Order

"On the morning of March 1, [1990] without warning, a force of armed Secret Service agents - accompanied by Austin police and at least one civilian 'expert' from the phone company - occupied the offices of Steve Jackson Games and began to search for computer equipment. The home ... the writer of GURPS Cyberpunk, was also raided. A large amount of equipment was seized, including four computers, two laser printers, some loose hard disks and a great deal of assorted hardware. One of the computers was the one running the Illuminati BBS."

hmmmmmmmmm.......




The company, "S.J. Games" fought back in court and finally won, but nearly went under financially. The investigation zeroed in on "fraud" supposedly committed by the company regarding the hacker activity and the fact that the company promoted the hacker's newsletter, "Phrack". However, this is so flimsy that it makes no common sense; in fact, the affidavit made so little sense that a Judge threw the case out, awarding S.J. Games $50,000 plus $250,000 attorney's fees. That is a lot of taxpayer's money to pay for a stupid, nonsensical case!
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truthseeker63
06-04-2012, 05:13 AM
Hypocrites inside The Heart of Islam - Alex Jones Tv

Uploaded by TheAlexJonesChannel on Aug 24, 2010
http://www.infowars.com/
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOBd7sksqDg

Alex Jones talks to a Muslim Caller.
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truthseeker63
06-04-2012, 05:23 AM
Alex Jones Says Gay People are Created by the Government

Uploaded by vilemonkey on Jun 11, 2010
Alex Jones Says Gay People are Created by the Government


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2w2TRxSLxw


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truthseeker63
06-04-2012, 05:28 AM
Alex Jones Caller says White People are the Devil!

Uploaded by tapq on Oct 31, 2008

The Alex Jones Show had a guy call in from Jamaica to say that White People are the Devil. He said that we are the "Edomites" and God hates edomites because we are the seed of satan. I was shocked because I didn't realize that there were people like this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNn4j...eature=related
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truthseeker63
06-04-2012, 05:31 AM
Alex Jones Puts Anti-Semitic Caller in His Place!!

Uploaded by TheAlexJonesChannel on Mar 4, 2011

Alex gets a call from an anti-semite who says, "kill all the jews". Alex reminds
viewers that blaming the jews for everything wrong in the world, would make us no bette than the nazis of the 1940's. Alex explains yet again why it's called a One World Government/Order, and how it could not work if it was just one race controling it all at the top.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-4C7myX0vg
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GuestFellow
06-04-2012, 05:10 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar
Wassalaam bro Tragic Typos.

It's all over the net bro, just type in Bohemian Grove and will be amazed at what you find there. 33rd degree + masons (illuminati) and even further up the food chain, the Skull and Bones society... these are the ones you wanna keep your eyes on.

Also, I was gonna post some vids but you know, Bro Abz has already gotten there before me.

I do not vote. I do not care to vote. I do not wish to be a fool.

Scimi
:sl:

I'm aware it is all over the Internet. Common knowledge does not equate to it being true. You made a claim and you said you have proof. So I would like to see this proof. This is the claim you made:

format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar
you do realise that all the presidents of the USofA were decided in Bohemian Grove, right?
So all the Presidents of USA were decided in Bohemian Grove. I would like to see evidence for this.

If it is video evidence, explain to me the following:

1. Who made this video?
2. Why have they made it?
3. Where they did get their information from?
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Novice
06-04-2012, 06:34 PM
I wouldn't charecterize all politicians as liars. Yes, politicians may promise their constituents certian things; but if they don't deliver, that doesn't necessarily mean they were lying. Indeed, they may have tried as hard as they could to get what they wanted passed, but ultimately failed due to various reasons.

Being a politician certainly isn't easy (unless one is a dictator, of course). :)
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truthseeker63
06-16-2012, 08:45 PM
Hypocrites inside The Heart of Islam - Alex Jones Tv

Uploaded by TheAlexJonesChannel on Aug 24, 2010
http://www.infowars.com/
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOBd7sksqDg

Alex Jones talks to a Muslim Caller.
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truthseeker63
06-26-2012, 01:38 AM
Did the United States of America's Government pass civil right's laws voting right's laws and anti racial discrimination laws in the 1950's and the 1960's because the American Politicans and the American Political Elite stopped being racist ? I find it hard to believe that the American Presidents Eisenhower Kennedy and Johnson passed these civil rights laws because they cared or want to helped to felt sorry for Black People in America or American Indians also called Native Americans or Chicanos and or Asians or any other Non White Race or oppressed Race. I think these White Capitalist Politicans passed these laws because they felt they had to. During the Cold War the Soviet Union and many other Nation States criticized the United States of America for it's racism jim crow laws white privilege. The American Government wanted to be a super power so of course they had to pass these laws to make it look like they wanted to change. South Africa and Rhodesia had to give up it's Apartheid laws due to being criticized and economic sanctions and economic boycotts. There were civil rights laws voting rights laws passed after the American Civil War for Black People in America yet years later another Civil Rights law was passed why another one America already had one ? The fact is that we in America and the rest of the West always seem to have White Political Leaders and Presidents because of White Privilege. People think American Politics is no longer racist but George Wallace claimed that he changed too as did David Duke Pat Buchanan and Jared Taylor. Civil Rights Laws may of also been passed to stop race riots and other kinds of riots. The Non White Nations are not going to trade deal or work with the United States of America Rhodesia South Africa and the fact that the African and Asian Nations and other Nations were getting their Independence in the 1950's and the 1960's after World War 2. Does anyone agree ? The British Government and also Winston Churchill did not want to give up running India they forced to leave. In my view the American Government never wanted to pass Civil Rights Laws they were forced to also they got new voting blocs with the Voting Rights Laws it helped them to get more votes. The White Capitalist Politicans just wanted votes. President Harry Truman integrated the American Military in 1948 he knew a integrated American Military would work better. Franklin D. Roosevelt passed the Fair Employment Practices Committee. President Eisenhower integrated a high school in little rock in 1957 because of the 1954 brown vs board case Eisenhower also passed civil rights laws in 1957 and 1960. America pased the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 which America really only wanted cheap labor more wage slaves not to get more racial diversity. America did vote for President Obama but Obama works for the Capitalist Elite. Obama is a Capitalist. What has Obama done for Black People ? America is not really a integrated nation do you agree ? America is only integrated as far the laws. American Pro Baseball was integrated in 1947 by Jackie Robinson but the White Baseball team owner most likely only wanted to make a profit. There is still a wealth gap between the races. America was racist by it's laws untill the 1970's. My question is why do White Racists feel a need to keep their racism hidden ? Also is Capitalism based on Racism ? The White Supremacists on today say they just want Separation not White Supremacy y question to them is if you wanted Racial Separation why did you bring Black People to America from Africa as Slaves then and you enslaved other races for cheap labor or to force them to work for free like the Africans you enslaved you forced to live in what you claim are the White Homelands is this correct thank you ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege
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truthseeker63
06-27-2012, 07:55 AM
Thank you.
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Darth Ultor
06-28-2012, 12:28 AM
tl;dr separate that into paragraphs, please.
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truthseeker63
06-29-2012, 12:29 PM
Thank you.
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truthseeker63
07-03-2012, 11:47 PM
Most Western Politicans are Wealthy Capitalist Politicans therefor of course they are liars in my view.
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Darth Ultor
07-04-2012, 01:58 AM
Well....you did make the thread
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BMikush
07-10-2012, 04:19 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by truthseeker63
I think American Politicans want to be elected and or to win votes therefor they will say anything in a Political Speech or in a Political Debate or at a Political Rally just to get elected. Politicans are very Wealthy they don't care about the Poor People or the Homeless or the Sick of any Religion Race or Nation Politicans just pretend to care about helping People or promoting Economic Justice.

Speaking as a citizen of the United States, you are SO right! The person who wins the Presidential Election is the person that has the most charisma and tells the biggest lies. Four years ago, that was Obama. Although he promised universal healthcare throughout his campaign, I never heard him say how he was going to pay for it. Well, if you weren't drinking the Kool Aid (the gullible people who actually BELIEVE what a politician says), you already knew he was going to tax us more. I also hate to say it, but the only people who voted for Obama were those who drank too much Kool Aid and the majority of the black population (and sadly, NOT because of Obama's policies...). Honestly, after Obama was elected and other nations started to "pat" the United States for electing its first black President, I was embarrassed. He wasn't elected because we're so "enlightened" here. He just had the charisma and energy that gets a person elected. Had nothing to do with skin color.
:embarrass
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BMikush
07-10-2012, 04:35 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by truthseeker63
I being born in the USA I was taught to respect the President Most Americans I meet seem to Idolize American Presidents.

There are a couple of Presidents that I do admire, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and most recently Ronald Reagan. I don't "idolize" them, but I do respect them more than other Presidents. As to being taught to respect the President of the United States...I think it's more a respect of the Office/Position. Not necessarily the person holding the Office. I will show respect to President Obama ONLY because he is the President of my country. I don't have to agree with him and I sure don't have to like him...at all. It is what he does as President that will ultimately define whether he was a good President or not. Now as to being "good Christians"...there are so many variations of Christians: Baptist, Lutheran, Anglican, Methodist. I'm Roman Catholic and I personally don't like to be included in the "Christian Majority" that politicians throw around. "Christian" is one of the newest politically correct terms to encompass many as one and all the examples of Christian groups I mentioned began as Roman Catholics (thus why they were referred to as "Protestant" religions...they protested against the Vatican.). Any way, back to being a good Christian or having an agenda: maybe a good Christian and definitely have an agenda.
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