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Haafizah
Of course it's a saheeh hadith, it's mentioned in Tafsir Ibn Kathir!!! :skeleton:
:sl: sister, that's not necessarily the case, that if it's mentioned in a book by Ibn Kathir, then it's saheeh. There are some weak and fabricated ahadeeth mentioned in Ibn Kathirs books, mentioned for the purpose of showing that they are weak/fabricated, so that people will know when they see them. He mentions the status of each hadeeth straight after the text of the hadeeth. But unfortunately, people leave that important sentence after it out, quote the hadeeth, say it was in his book, then everyone assumes that it must be ok, when this is not the case.
As mentioned in your quote, it is mentioned in Ibn Kathirs book al Bidaya wal Nihaayah. He writes that the likes of Ali bin Madini, Muhammad bin Ubayd, Yala bin Ubaid, 'Allamah Abu al-Hajjaj, 'Allamah Abu al-Abbas, Ibn Zanjwiya, Muhammad bin Salih Hashimi, 'Allamah Juzjani, 'Allamah Muhammad bin Nasir Baghdadi have all lableled this narration to be a fabrication.
Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal said this narration has no basis.
There are Shia narrators in all versions of this hadeeth.
And Allah knows best in all matters.