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[SyedSaboor]

Hello welcome everybody. I am Syed Saboor, a Muslim and a nationalist. I advocate both Islam and a healthy seperation of the races from one another. I believe in international nationalism, and believe that Muslims should divide along the line of race and ethnicity to preserve racial identity, which is something the New World Order crowd is desperately trying to dismantle.

[Muslim Woman]

:sl:

Welcome to the forum .

not sure about ur concept. We should give importance on brotherhood in Islam. Sometimes nationalism can harm this brotherhood.


And Allah Knows Best.

[SyedSaboor]

The hell with brotherhood. We need to seperate from one another. Racial identity is important and we all base our lives, friendships, marriages, etc. upon it. We are told over and over again that it is wrong and unreligious, but it is basic.

[~ Sabr ~]

:welcome: brother

I didn't understand a word after "Muslim"

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[Aprender]

:sl:
Welcome to the forum Syed.

I believe in international nationalism, and believe that Muslims should divide along the line of race and ethnicity to preserve racial identity, which is something the New World Order crowd is desperately trying to dismantle

Nationalism is really just pride in one's country. I think what you're referring to here is more of pan-nationalism when you discuss ethnic groups. Can I ask you what brought you to this way of thinking and how old are you if you don't mind sharing? It's important to note that Muslims aren't supposed to advocate for any type of division between races. This is exactly what the neo-Nazi's want to do.

O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted. [49:13]

...and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what you do. [5:8]

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said in his last sermon:
"All mankind is descended from Adam and Eve, an Arab is not better than a non-Arab and a non-Arab is not better than an Arab; a white person is not better than a black person, nor is a black person better than a white person except by piety and good actions. Learn that every Muslim is the brother of every other Muslim and that Muslims form one brotherhood."

Do you mean you want to advocate to preserve an Islamic identity in traditionally Muslim countries from Western influence? If that's the case then I don't think many would disagree with you about that part here since it is apparent that U.S. foreign policy aims to turn many nations in the world into a global democracy.

The governments of the world are not trying to dismantle racial ethnicity so much as it wants to prevent Islam from becoming dominant--including the establishment of the Caliphate.

Enjoy your time here on the forum and I hope you can learn much from other members here.

[SyedSaboor]

First of all, let me assure you, that I am not a racist. It is customary for people to attack other as being "racist" or "nazi," if they choose the path of nationalism and racial seperatism, but that is not the case. I do my own online radio and have interviewed many on the far-right of the political equation.

[SyedSaboor]

And to answer your question, yes, I do advocate racial nationalism. I believe people feel the desire to be with their own. I am Indian, and I feel confortable with other Indians, especially of the Aryan persuasion, because that is what we are orignially--Aryans, not Arabs. Arabs feel the same way. Arabs go to their own masjid, marry among their own, etc.. There is nothing wrong with feeling kinship among your own race or marrying in your own race. It is healthy and it is normal.

The ultimate goal of Big Brother is to inact the plan of the Illuminati, which has been engineered for centuries and is coming to fruition now--total world domination through the elimation of racial, gender, and national identity. The Illuminati Jews want to do away with the races by mixing them up. Through pornography and hollywood they promote homosexualtiy, feminism, and lesbianism to destroy family and gender identity, and they do many other nefarious things.

[SyedSaboor]

I have interviewed many in the far-right, like Michael Collins Piper. He writes for publications like American Free Press, a publication dedicated to promoting nationalism and racial seperatism. I also in the past have interviewed for my online radio show, Mark Weber, the director of the Institute for Historical Review. Please check it all out.

[Hulk]

I say we shouldn't pretend like there are no such thing as different races or different cultures but I don't see the need to practice any "division" because a convergence of races and cultures itself is a race and culture.

There is nothing wrong with recognising that we all have different backgrounds but that is the beauty of Islam, our commitment to the deen should transcend the differences.

[SyedSaboor]

My good friend Michael Collins Piper has written several books attacking Jewish domination of American society and foreign policy. He has met Minister Lewis Farrakhan on several occasions and his editior, Willis Carto, has met many prominent Black nationalists. I must reassert, I do not hate any particular race, but believe strongly that the different races should preserve themselves, and if that means seperating from each other, then so be it.

[Insaanah]

The hell with brotherhood.

"The Believers are but a single Brotherhood..." (al-Qur'an 49:10, part)

[SyedSaboor]

See, that is illogical thinking. Believers disagree with each other all the time. Muslims prefer their own, not other Muslims, but other Arabs, Pakistanis, and others. Arabs are actually some of the most race conscious people in the world, and most of them are Muslims. Most Arabs prefer to marry among their own. Iranians feel the same way. How many times have you heard about Iranians feeling offended when people mistake them for being Arab. That is because they take pride in their Aryan origins. It logically follows that their racial identity is important to them as it is for everybody else.

[Sunnie Ameena]

There is nothing wrong with recognising that we all have different backgrounds but that is the beauty of Islam, our commitment to the deen should transcend the differences.

Well put Brother Hulk.

[SyedSaboor]

We should strive to believe in our faith, but that does not mean we should indiscrimately mix with each other. That is dangerous. Look at Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union, and so many other countries in the world, that fell apart because of multiculturalism. We need to remain divided, not united together. In the Middle East, the Arabs discriminate against anyone who is not Arab and view them as inferior. Where is their Islam? Answer me that. The reason being is because of the fact Arabs pay more allegience to their race, then any religious conviction. We all should do the same as well in terms of racial nationalism.

[Muezzin]

:sl:

Welcome to the forum! I hope you enjoy it.

We should strive to believe in our faith, but that does not mean we should indiscrimately mix with each other. That is dangerous. Look at Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union, and so many other countries in the world, that fell apart because of multiculturalism. We need to remain divided, not united together. In the Middle East, the Arabs discriminate against anyone who is not Arab and view them as inferior. Where is their Islam? Answer me that. The reason being is because of the fact Arabs pay more allegience to their race, then any religious conviction. We all should do the same as well in terms of racial nationalism.

I sort of see where you're coming from, but it's still un-Islamic. Just because, from your point of view, the Arabs do not act in an Islamic way with regards to race, it does not mean everyone should follow their lead. If the Arabs started eating pork, should all Muslims copy them?

[Ar-RaYYan]

Racial identity is important and we all base our lives, friendships, marriages, etc. upon it.

Nope. Thats not true. Maybe you base your life decisions on racial identity but that is not true for the majority of us.

[SyedSaboor]

Baloney!!! We can claim we do not use race as a mark of what we do and how we act towards others, but we do. I mean, I do not discriminate against people of any particular race, but we feel close to people are similar to ourselves more so then others. And most people prefer to marry among their own ethnicity, even Muslims.

[SyedSaboor]

We need to preserve racial identity. It matters as much as our family matters.

[PouringRain]

I think this guy is looking to get a rise out of people.

[Hulk]

I don't think so sis I think he is just saying what he really believes in.

Bro Syed may I suggest you open a thread if you wish to discuss the topic? Keep in mind that this is your intro thread and it would be nice to keep it that way.

[Hulk]

^o) Perhaps I was wrong..

[Sunnie Ameena]

Is he really going to be allowed to talk to others like that just because they voice their opinion? Seems rather unfair to the others here who are also stating their opinions. I don't recall in the rules that this sort of thing is allowed. Maybe he needs to go back and read the rules.

[Txyib]

Hello welcome everybody. I am Syed Saboor, a Muslim and a nationalist. I advocate both Islam and a healthy seperation of the races from one another. I believe in international nationalism, and believe that Muslims should divide along the line of race and ethnicity to preserve racial identity, which is something the New World Order crowd is desperately trying to dismantle.

salaam brother
welcome to this forum,i hope that you may retrieve and give knowledge ,moreover when you have reached 50 posts you can start posting on the forum so other people can gain from you.the forum welcomes anyone from any race so hey your concept is seeming to look good but just remember not to disobey the rules
wasalam

[Qurratul Ayn]

:salamext:

Welcome to the forum, Brother SyedSaboor.

You certainly know how to introduce yourself.

Insha'Allaah, you shall participate in the various discussions across the forum, and enlighten us with your opinions, of which I'm sure you will give with full gusto :)

May you find this site beneficial and you learn a lot from it too

:salamext:

[dysphoricrocker]

Salaam.

Welcome to the forum brother. I have read your posts and i must say i disagree with you. But then again, i disagree with alot of other things too. I guess that is why we're here in this forum - to share our differences and see how we can work towards solving them or at least accept them.

Hope you find your stay beneficial. May Allah bless us all.

[dqsunday]

Greetings Brother Syed and welcome to the board.

I am no expert on nationalism. It is a natural desire to be around people you can relate to, be it by culture or race or even religion. But I don't think everybody should be pigeon holed into separate communities with no contact with others.

The mixing of blood from one racial group to another does eventually dilute the 'look' of a particular culture but doesn't mean the actual culture itself needs to be lost. Old traditions and history can still be practiced.

As far as I am concerned, I have nothing against any specific group of people, be it by country, race, faith or culture and I do find it very interesting to meet and learn about different cultures, races etc. I don't always agree with aspects of culture or some religion other than my own. I can give my view and encourage a change but if they don't want to change, its not my place to force them.

[Endymion]

Woopss.. i can see that Mr Racism is gone ;D