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yasirslm
06-11-2012, 09:11 AM
Dear Bothers/Sisters,

What is the meaning of TABARIK.I have seen people giving things like SWEETS etc naming them as Tabarik to other peoples. I received some SWEETS from my Office Security Guard short while ago as Tabarik and when I asked him what does TABARIK means he left my table without answering my question.

Does TABARIK allowed in Islam.


Apology if I am naming anything wrong.

Thanks and Regards

Peace!!!
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~ Sabr ~
06-11-2012, 09:15 AM
:salamext:

1 - Brother you should always start your post with a Salaam
2 - Instead of thanks, say Jazaak Allaah Khayr (Meaning may Allaah reward you)
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~ Sabr ~
06-11-2012, 09:19 AM
:salamext:

Tabarruk means to seek blessings (barakah) in something. It is derived from the word ‘barakah’ which is often translated as blessing.

Please see here for more details: AN IN DEPTH LOOK AT THE NARRATION OF IMAM SHAFI DOING TABARRUK WITH THE GRAVE OF IMAM HANIFAH
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yasirslm
06-11-2012, 09:27 AM

:salamext:


Tabarruk in term of my question...( things like SWEETS )
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~ Sabr ~
06-11-2012, 09:31 AM
Originally Posted by yasirslm
:salamext:

Tabarruk in term of my question...( things like SWEETS )
:wasalamex

Please see this: http://aqeedah.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/tabarruk/
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yasirslm
06-11-2012, 09:41 AM
:wasalamex

Ok what you are trying toexplain me is the meaning of Tabarruk which is not my question....

People taking sweets from different Darbars etc and giving to other people as Tabarruk



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~ Sabr ~
06-11-2012, 09:46 AM
Originally Posted by yasirslm
:wasalamex

Ok what you are trying toexplain me is the meaning of Tabarruk which is not my question....

People taking sweets from different Darbars etc and giving to other people as Tabarruk
Seeking blessings (tabarruk) is not just restricted to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), but rather one may seek blessings from the traces of the righteous and pious, as we have learnt from the text of Imam Nawawi (Allah have mercy on him) quoted above

Source: http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?...=10468&CATE=24
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Endymion
06-11-2012, 11:01 AM
I don't mind having some free sweets from my muslim brothers and sister but i just take them as free sweet.Not something that can give me any barakah because of the saint.I respect Aulia Allah's so much but i know that they never ask people to worship their graves,ask them their desires and spread barakah through methai.You can't achieve success unless you work hard for it.No matter its deen or dunyah,both need hard work and patience.No one can be a pious successful being just by eating methai.And if you believe that,you are obviously in the wrong direction.

The answer to your question has now become simple i guess :statisfie No ^o)
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~ Sabr ~
06-11-2012, 11:07 AM
Originally Posted by Endymion
but i know that they never ask people to spread barakah through methai.You can't achieve success unless you work hard for it.
The answer to your question has now become simple i guess :statisfie No ^o)
..........

Originally Posted by Haafizah

Seeking blessings (tabarruk) is not just restricted to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), but rather one may seek blessings from the traces of the righteous and pious, as we have learnt from the text of Imam Nawawi (Allah have mercy on him) quoted above

Source: http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?...=10468&CATE=24
So Imam Nawawi is wrong?
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Endymion
06-11-2012, 11:38 AM
The link you quoted talks about the tabarruk of Muhammad SAW came to people through authentic sources and people used it for barakah.The OP is asking about the sweets people distribute after getting what they want.You don't know what they wished for.If a person said at the darbar that if his neighbor face a loss,he would distribute methai and you receive this sweet and eat it thinking you are getting some barakah??This is not something he get directly from a righteous person but distributing it on his behalf.

The acts of the companions of Prophet Muhammad SAW were very pure.We are the people surrounded by bidah and we need to be very careful about every action we perform to save us from bidah.
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~ Sabr ~
06-11-2012, 11:44 AM
Originally Posted by Endymion
If a person said at the darbar that if his neighbor face a loss,he would distribute methai and you receive this sweet and eat it thinking you are getting some barakah??This is not something he get directly from a righteous person but distributing it on his behalf.
But the person didn't say that. you don't know what they said and why they said it. And you don't know which darbaar they got the sweets from - we should not underestimate the value of Wali Allaahs. This is the problem of Muslims nowadays. Please give them their DUE respect.
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Endymion
06-11-2012, 11:52 AM
Originally Posted by Haafizah
we should not underestimate the value of Wali Allaahs. This is the problem of Muslims nowadays. Please give them their DUE respect.
But my above statement said nothing about the value and respect of Wali Allah neither i disrespect them Naoodhbillah.I just pointed out the bidahs people invent on their names :embarrass
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~ Sabr ~
06-11-2012, 11:57 AM
Sis I didn't say you did - I just hate it when people disrespect Aulia Allaah and their darbaars by saying weird stuff. I agree we shouldn't do sajdah, etc. that's just wrong. But where our respect should lie for them - that should not decrease in ANY way.
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ژاله
06-11-2012, 12:42 PM
You know, with so much bid'ah prevalent these days, I would be very careful. Just because something comes out of some shrine, doesn't mean its holy and has barakah. Also, people may have weird intentions and distribute food in the name of Auliyah (just to clarify, I respect them a lot, but I am against asking them for help, we should ask only Allah). We don't eat such tabarruk, just to be on the safe side.
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~ Sabr ~
06-11-2012, 12:44 PM
Originally Posted by violette
but I am against asking them for help
I'm not. I believe in waseelahs. That is the way of Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah.
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ژاله
06-11-2012, 12:55 PM
Originally Posted by Haafizah
I'm not. I believe in waseelahs. That is the way of Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah.
And that is fine. I don't have a problem with your believing in waseelahs. To each his own. However, I am not sure if this is THE way of Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah, I am however pretty sure that salafi don't believe in waseelahs, and I go with that.
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~ Sabr ~
06-11-2012, 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by violette
I am however pretty sure that salafi don't believe in waseelahs, and I go with that.
Each to their own, may Allaah guide us ALL to the straight path, Ameen.

And Allaah Knows Best
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Insaanah
06-11-2012, 09:12 PM
:sl:

Originally Posted by yasirslm
People taking sweets from different Darbars etc and giving to other people as Tabarruk
Have a look at these links regarding tabarruk:

http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/in...cles&id=159204
http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/in...twaId&Id=14693
http://www.allaahuakbar.net/barelwiyat/tabarruk.htm
http://abdurrahman.org/tawheed/Rulin...ing-to-him.pdf

Hope they're of some help inshaa'Allah.

:sl:
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~ Sabr ~
06-11-2012, 09:35 PM
Originally Posted by violette
And that is fine. I don't have a problem with your believing in waseelahs. To each his own. However, I am not sure if this is THE way of Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah, I am however pretty sure that salafi don't believe in waseelahs, and I go with that.
Also, with every person chanting salafi, salafi; did you know that the salafis even took the hair and spit of RasoolAllaah to be tabarruk.

At least read up on what you believe people.

Joke.
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dqsunday
06-12-2012, 12:27 AM
What kind of sweet was it? Just wrapped up candy or something baked? just kind of wondering maybe the name is of the sweet itself not meant as a blessing. Or could just be an inappropriate term used to just be a minor gift of candy as a welcome etc. Same idea as saying asalam.
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yasirslm
06-12-2012, 04:53 AM
I have literally seen people going to different Durbars doing strange acts like doing Sajdas..Dancing of Qawalies. They actually become senseless while performing such acts.
youtube.com/watch?v=6GCmVuNj8LY
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yasirslm
06-12-2012, 07:48 AM
Originally Posted by Haafizah
You aren't doing it are you? Then why worry? They are going to their grave and you are going to yours.

Please don't mislead me here..you mean to say when someone Noble from my relative will pass away I should make Darbar on his grave and ask people to come on this darbar for their manats.
Making Durbars is a Human Concept and I have not found any reference.
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yasirslm
06-12-2012, 09:11 AM
We do our jobs to earn money so that we can buy TV,Mobile,microwave etc.We can't correlate them with Durbars.
Ok one point of you is very Valid that we must respect Aulia Allah's (As I do)as they are very noble person of GOD, But have they(Aulia Allah's) told people once they will pass away their Graves must be converted into Durbars.
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~Raindrop~
06-12-2012, 09:25 AM
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

I'm not sure how, but this thread seems to have turned quite nasty. Sister Insaanah has cleared up the matter in her post, it should have ended there.

To clarify: it is NOT permissible to make dua to someone OTHER than Allah. Also, it's not permissible to adorn graves, place shawls and flowers upon them, visit them so that a need may be fulfilled, seek blessings from the one inside, leave money for them, place food there etc.

There is nothing wrong with visiting the graves of awliyaa in order to be reminded of death and because of the high status Allah has bestowed upon them. We can find countless examples of ulama visiting such graves in accordance to the Sunnah.

OP:If the food has come from the darbar then it is best avoided.

Thread closed.

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~Raindrop~
06-12-2012, 09:40 AM
Originally Posted by Mufti Ebrahim Desai

Allah Ta'ala commands in the Qur'aan, 'O you who believe! Fear Allah and be
with the Saadiqeen (truthful ones).' (Tawbah). Here, it is inferred that
company of the pious is instrumental in assisting one towards the goal of
Taqwa (fear of Allah). It is therefore, imperative that such a pious one be
'Muttabi us Sunnah' (a strict adherent of the Sunnha) so as to advise and
assist others in attaining this goal. Such a person is indeed worthy of
respect within the limits prescribed by the Shari'ah. It also follows that
one who is himself involved and encourages practices and customs contrary to
the Sunnah can never assist others except in Dhalaal (misguidance).

Many great and worthy personages and staunch upholders of the Sunnah have
contributed tremendously to the service of Deen and have since left this
world. They were indeed great 'Awliyaa' (friends) of Allah. Sadly, after
their demise, some ignorant members of society fell into a great mischief.
With hollow claims of Ta'zeem (according honour) and Muhabbat (love), they
have began perpetrating such heinous evils that shake the very foundations
of Deen. Were the Awliyaa, in whose names these are carried out, alive, they
would have been the first to outlaw them. Among these evil practices,
hereunder are some of them:

Kissing or Bowing before Graves
Among all the evils perpetrated by these persons, these are surely the most
heinous. Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) had expressly forbade that any
person prostrate before him. He said, 'Were I to command anyone to prostrate
before another, I would have commanded the wife to do so before her husband.
' (Targheeb).

The learned scholars of Islam have clearly stated that such innovations are
absolutely Haraam and in some situations, even Kufr. This can be understood
from the following text (extracted from authoritative works):

'Whoever bows to the king with the intention of Ibaadat, becomes a Kaafir
(disbeliever). It appears in Khulasa that, 'whoever prostrates before them
with the intention of Ta'zeem (showing honour) like the Ta'zeem of Allah Ta'
ala, he will become Kaafir. If his intention is just a greeting, some Ulama
have accepted the view that he will not become a Kaafir (but such an act is
Haraam). This is the most apparent view. Some Ulama, however, hold the view
that he will become Kaafir in all cases. Concerning kissing of the ground,
this is very close to bowing, except that placing the forehead or the cheek
on the ground is worse than the cheek.' (Fataawa Mahmoodiya vol.10 pg.60
quoting Fiqh Sharhul Akbar).

"Bowing to any besides Allah is Haraam." (Ibid)

"The best method when visiting the graveyard is to place one's back towards
the Qibla while facing the Mayyit (deceased) and make Salaam. The hands
should not be passed over the grave, nor should it be kissed or touched, for
such is the custom of the Christians." (Ibid from Tahtaawi)

"One should not cling to a grave nor touch it . one who is learned should
inform and warn others against those innovations perpetrated by the
ignorant, that Tawaaf (circumambulation) of the holy grave of Nabi
(Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) takes place as around the Ka'bah and that the
hands be passed over it or that it be kissed." (Ibid from Mudkhal)

The above quotations should be sufficient to portray the magnitude of
perpetrating these acts of Shirk.

Strewing of Flowers Upon Graves
Mufti Mahmoodul-Hasan Gangohi (RA) has aptly replied to this question. He
writes, 'Stewing flowers or Chadars (shawls) upon graves is incorrect.
Although it has been narrated that Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) had
planted branches upon two graves, this was only because the occupants of
those graves were suffering punishments. Then too the blessed hands of Nabi
(Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) were used (which is not insignificant). When
using this as substantiation for the practise of strewing flowers upon the
resting places of the pious servants of Allah Ta'ala, is it then done out of
the belief that these great personages, Allah forbid, are suffering divine
punishments? Also, aside from those two graves, it is not established that
Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) planted branches on any other occasions."
(Fataawa Mahmoodiyya vol.1 pg.195; Mazhari)

We wish to add that should one sincerely wish to practise upon the Hadith,
which cannot in any case, be a basis for establishing Sunniyyaat (a practise
being Sunnah), why adhere to flowers, an item according great importance by
the Hindu religion?
May Allah guide us all... Ameen thumma Ameen.

و عليكم السلام و رحمة الله و بركاته
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