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yasirslm
06-14-2012, 08:27 AM
Dear Brothers/Sisters,

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What is the concept of science in Islam as I often heard people stating that science started the day Prophet(PBUH) separated Moon in to two parts.

What I believe science is human made terminology and based on human concepts and nothing to do with religion.

Peace!!!
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~ Sabr ~
06-14-2012, 08:33 AM
:wasalamex

Humans made science, but who made humans?

Everything is to do with Islaam, as everything created leads to the Creator, Allaah.
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Hulk
06-14-2012, 08:35 AM
Science is the study of nature, simple as that. Islam makes no separation between science and deen. That is a western approach.
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yasirslm
06-14-2012, 08:38 AM
Originally Posted by yasirslm
Dear Brothers/Sisters,
What I believe science is human made terminology
Peace!!!
How will you justify when people name things mentioned in Holy Quran as science.
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~ Sabr ~
06-14-2012, 08:41 AM
What do you mean by Justify?
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~ Sabr ~
06-14-2012, 08:42 AM
Scientific Miracles of the Holy Qur'aan


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yasirslm
06-14-2012, 08:45 AM
Originally Posted by yasirslm
separated Moon in to two parts.
Was it science or GOD gifted quality to Prophet(PBUH)
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~ Sabr ~
06-14-2012, 08:47 AM
You are trying to split science and Islaam into 2, whereas they are 1. Science is a gift to humans by Allaah.
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yasirslm
06-14-2012, 09:09 AM
So you mean to say here that using science one can claim(As is happening now) to create a Heavy Laser Beam and start saying that he can cut moon in to two parts using laser
^o)
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~ Sabr ~
06-14-2012, 09:15 AM
People have managed to accomplish making an aeroplane to get from one place to another - was this possible 1400 years ago?

People have managed to create HIGH TECH phones - was this possible 1400 years ago?

People have managed to get into space - was this possible 1400 years ago?

If Allaah wills for something to happen, it will happen. And if Allaah does not will, you can get all the Jinns and humans on this planet, and they will not be able to do anything against Allaah's will.

We should only be concentrating on our goal in life = death+Jannah.
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yasirslm
06-14-2012, 09:27 AM
So 1400 years ago there was no science. Babies were born 1400 years ago with out science...vegetables were grown 1400 years ago without science and so on, currently all thing are the same but termed as science.
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~ Sabr ~
06-14-2012, 09:31 AM
Pretty much.

What is science? Humans think they know it all, but have they even been able to create 1 thing like those that which the Creator has created? Nope. And they never will.
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yasirslm
06-14-2012, 09:35 AM
Final Conclusion sister????
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~ Sabr ~
06-14-2012, 09:40 AM
Originally Posted by Haafizah
If Allaah wills for something to happen, it will happen.

And if Allaah does not will, you can get all the Jinns and humans on this planet, and they will not be able to do anything against Allaah's will.
^^ Final Conclusion
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yasirslm
06-14-2012, 10:03 AM
Totally agreed on this ..
If Allaah wills for something to happen, it will happen.

And if Allaah does not will, you can get all the Jinns and humans on this planet, and they will not be able to do anything against Allaah's will.



So the free will given by God to Huamns have no role in their lifes.
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Al-Mufarridun
06-14-2012, 10:04 AM
:sl:

Akhee do your questions have a purpose behind them?
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~ Sabr ~
06-14-2012, 10:07 AM
Originally Posted by yasirslm
So the free will given by God to Huamns have no role in their lifes.
I beg your pardon?
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marwen
06-14-2012, 10:23 AM
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Human Science can only study wordly phenomenons. Islamic knowledge is more general. Islam is not in contradiction with "science". It's compatible with human science, and it adds to it the non-human knowledge, the 'Ilm that you can't reach with your mind or your senses.

Allah created this universe, and fixed some universal rules which are adapted with human mind. These universal rules are called (in arabic) 'asbab' or 'sunan kaouniyah'. Science/Mind can only deal with these rational rules (physical laws, logics, scientific deduction and experiments). These rules are only organizational (to organize the universe), and instructive : to facilitate human conceptual knowledge about the universe, the Creator and the purpose of life, and also to make humans able to control (understand) natural phenomenons in order to exploit them in his life.
These universal rules are often respected, but the are not necessary for Allah to control the creation. Allah SWT can make exceptions sometimes and bypass these 'asbab' or rational rules in order to fulfill his will. Many examples are in the miracles of prophets like Musa(as) and the splitting of the sea with a stick, like prophet Ibrahim(as) who was trown into the fire, but did not burn, and the knife that did not cut the throat of Ismaeel(as) etc.

Islam teaches us to learn science to understand the universe, but teaches us also that science is limited and can't deal with the unseen, and that we have to put our trust on Allah not on the 'asbab', that Allah is the One who has control on the creation (throgh universal laws) and not these 'laws', but also to follow universal laws because Allah fixed them and He chosed to deal with us only through these laws.
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yasirslm
06-14-2012, 10:23 AM
Originally Posted by Al-Mufarridun
Akhee
What does this mean?????
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yasirslm
06-14-2012, 10:27 AM
Originally Posted by marwen
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Human Science can only study wordly phenomenons. Islamic knowledge is more general. Islam is not in contradiction with "science". It's compatible with human science, and it adds to it the non-human knowledge, the 'Ilm that you can't reach with your mind or your senses.

Allah created this universe, and fixed some universal rules which are adapted with human mind. These universal rules are called (in arabic) 'asbab' or 'sunan kaouniyah'. Science/Mind can only deal with these rational rules (physical laws, logics, scientific deduction and experiments). These rules are only organizational (to organize the universe), and instructive : to facilitate human conceptual knowledge about the universe, the Creator and the purpose of life, and also to make humans able to control (understand) natural phenomenons in order to exploit them in his life.
These universal rules are often respected, but the are not necessary for Allah to control the creation. Allah SWT can make exceptions sometimes and bypass these 'asbab' or rational rules in order to fulfill his will. Many examples are in the miracles of prophets like Musa(as) and the splitting of the sea with a stick, like prophet Ibrahim(as) who was trown into the fire, but did not burn, and the knife that did not cut the throat of Ismaeel(as) etc.

Islam teaches us to learn science to understand the universe, but teaches us also that science is limited and can't deal with the unseen, and that we have to put our trust on Allah not on the 'asbab', that Allah is the One who has control on the creation (throgh universal laws) and not these 'laws', but also to follow universal laws because Allah fixed them and He chosed to deal with us only through these laws.

This is what I was asking for and had complete clarity in it..

Much Appreciated:statisfie:statisfie:statisfie:statisfi e
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adnanjavaid
06-14-2012, 10:40 AM
Originally Posted by Haafizah
:wasalamex

Humans made science, but who made humans?

Everything is to do with Islaam, as everything created leads to the Creator, Allaah.



:sl:

Science is human given name, all things done in science is practical example of islam.
So there is only islam having complete ideas and knowledge.
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yasirslm
06-14-2012, 10:42 AM
Originally Posted by adnanjavaid

:sl:

Science is human given name, all things done in science is practical example of islam.
So there is only islam having complete ideas and knowledge.
Agreed Brother.
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