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Snowflake
07-07-2012, 03:27 PM
Aik majboor Maa ki dardnaak daastaan jo ke humare mulk liye sharam ka mukaam hai. Koi bata sake ke iss azeem maa se direct kaise rabta kiya ja sakta hai to behad mushkoor rahungi. Shukria imsad




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CosmicPathos
07-07-2012, 03:31 PM
oh wow. aisi bohat mayen hain pak mein.
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Scimitar
07-07-2012, 03:57 PM
Power to the people, I say.

Women not driving in Muslim countries is a bit draconian to say the least. It's not a camel... Sheesh. If they need to drive to get from A to B, then they must. But there is that mahram issue... people often forget that one :hmm:

Scimi
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Endymion
07-07-2012, 03:58 PM
Aisi maa sari dunya me hain sirf Pakistan mey nahi aur ye us aulad k liye sharm ka makam hey jis ne jawan honey pr apni maa ko akela chorr dia.

SnowFlake,tum buhat jazbatee ho Larkee :statisfie I remember watching her an hour long interview in rising Pakistan.She is a radio cab driver and earn good salary,a very brave woman who doesn't need money just need the true love of her children.

I think it is the responsiblity of Parents to not only provide their kids worldly education but religious education as well and to not spend all their money on their kids making them selves a machine but save something for them selves.May Allah SWT help those who are in need and guide us all towards the straight path.Ameen.
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Haya emaan
07-07-2012, 04:03 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Snowflake
Aik majboor Maa ki dardnaak daastaan jo ke humare mulk liye sharam ka mukaam hai. Koi bata sake ke iss azeem maa se direct kaise rabta kiya ja sakta hai to behad mushkoor rahungi. Shukria
i remember reading about her in a newspaper ,i guess it was 'ummat'. contact them and see if they can help you with it..
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Haya emaan
07-07-2012, 04:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Endymion
Aisi maa sari dunya me hain sirf Pakistan mey nahi aur ye us aulad k liye sharm ka makam hey jis ne jawan honey pr apni maa ko akela chorr dia.

SnowFlake,tum buhat jazbatee ho Larkee I remember watching her an hour long interview in rising Pakistan.She is a radio cab driver and earn good salary,a very brave woman who doesn't need money just need the true love of her children.
i agree.. she is a brave woman.. qoum ki ik bahadur maa jis nay dusro k samnay hath phailanay per khd say mehnat ker k apni ulaad ko palnay ko tarjeeh di...
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Snowflake
07-07-2012, 06:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by CosmicPathos
oh wow. aisi bohat mayen hain pak mein.
Yehi to dukh ki baat hai.

format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar
Power to the people, I say.

Women not driving in Muslim countries is a bit draconian to say the least. It's not a camel... Sheesh. If they need to drive to get from A to B, then they must. But there is that mahram issue... people often forget that one :hmm:

Scimi
It's not about women driving brother. She is a widowed taxi driver and took this job to support her children who have since grown up and abandoned her except the little girl in the vid. She was attacked and got her arm broken. She takes on jobs driving men to dangerous places. The mahram issue is obvious but is deliberately ignored because voicing it will mean those who object to what she is doing should be ready to provide for her.


format_quote Originally Posted by Endymion
Aisi maa sari dunya me hain sirf Pakistan mey nahi aur ye us aulad k liye sharm ka makam hey jis ne jawan honey pr apni maa ko akela chorr dia.

SnowFlake,tum buhat jazbatee ho Larkee :statisfie I remember watching her an hour long interview in rising Pakistan.She is a radio cab driver and earn good salary,a very brave woman who doesn't need money just need the true love of her children.

I think it is the responsiblity of Parents to not only provide their kids worldly education but religious education as well and to not spend all their money on their kids making them selves a machine but save something for them selves.May Allah SWT help those who are in need and guide us all towards the straight path.Ameen.
Sis, mein janti hoon ke duniya mein aisi bohot sari maayen/behnen hain jo majboor ho kar ghar se nikli hain. Lekin chunke mera ta'aluk Pakistan se hai, mein Pakistan ki hi baat karungi. Ab dekho na, ghair musalmanon ne bhi Islami kanoon apna ke social security system qaayim kar liya hai magar humara Pakistan jo Islamic mulk hone ka dawa karta hai, aisa na kar saka.

Aur tum theek kehti ho. Mein jazbati ho jati hoon. kaise na houn sis? Mujhe sirf is maa ka dukh nahi. Mein sab kuch janti hoon ke wahan Darul Imaan jaise tanzeemon ke naam pe keya keya ghinanone khel khele ja rahe hain. kaise humari bhehnon ki saudebazi ho rahi hai. kaise factory mein kaam karne wali majboor larkiyon ko factory ke malik tang karte hain. Shayed kitne hi Pakistan ke log khud in haqeeqaton se bekhabar hain. Jo Pakistani bahir hain woh apne rishtardaron ki madad karte hain, magar kin kin logon ki madad ki jaye? Yahan paise darakhton pe to nahi ugta. Tabhi to mein lanat bhejti hoon aise leaderon per jinhon ne awam ke liye kuch nahi kiya aur apni tijoriyan bhare jaate hain. Nafrat hai in se. Allah inko hidayat de ya inki kamar tor de. Ameen.



format_quote Originally Posted by Haya emaan

i remember reading about her in a newspaper ,i guess it was 'ummat'. contact them and see if they can help you with it..
Bohot bohot shukrya sis HayaEmaan :)
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Endymion
07-07-2012, 06:32 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Snowflake
Sis, mein janti hoon ke duniya mein aisi bohot sari maayen/behnen hain jo majboor ho kar ghar se nikli hain. Lekin chunke mera ta'aluk Pakistan se hai, mein Pakistan ki hi baat karungi. Ab dekho na, ghair musalmanon ne bhi Islami kanoon apna ke social security system qaayim kar liya hai magar humara Pakistan jo Islamic mulk hone ka dawa karta hai, aisa na kar saka.

Aur tum theek kehti ho. Mein jazbati ho jati hoon. kaise na houn sis? Mujhe sirf is maa ka dukh nahi. Mein sab kuch janti hoon ke wahan Darul Imaan jaise tanzeemon ke naam pe keya keya ghinanone khel khele ja rahe hain. kaise humari bhehnon ki saudebazi ho rahi hai. kaise factory mein kaam karne wali majboor larkiyon ko factory ke malik tang karte hain. Shayed kitne hi Pakistan ke log khud in haqeeqaton se bekhabar hain. Jo Pakistani bahir hain woh apne rishtardaron ki madad karte hain, magar kin kin logon ki madad ki jaye? Yahan paise darakhton pe to nahi ugta. Tabhi to mein lanat bhejti hoon aise leaderon per jinhon ne awam ke liye kuch nahi kiya aur apni tijoriyan bhare jaate hain. Nafrat hai in se. Allah inko hidayat de ya inki kamar tor de. Ameen.
Tumhari ek ek baat theek meri pyari,lekin yaqeen karo k ye halat aur ye hukumran hum logo k apney amal ka nateeja hey.Aur jin hukumrano se tumko nafrat hey aur jin ko tumhamari tabahi ka zimadar samajhti ho,yaqeen karo k agley election me phir ye hi log inko sirf ek plate biryani k liye dubara select kr len gey.In logo ka gham na karo,ye apne masley k khud zimadar hain aur kisi hamdardi k qabil nai.
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Snowflake
07-07-2012, 07:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Endymion

Tumhari ek ek baat theek meri pyari,lekin yaqeen karo k ye halat aur ye hukumran hum logo k apney amal ka nateeja hey.Aur jin hukumrano se tumko nafrat hey aur jin ko tumhamari tabahi ka zimadar samajhti ho,yaqeen karo k agley election me phir ye hi log inko sirf ek plate biryani k liye dubara select kr len gey.In logo ka gham na karo,ye apne masley k khud zimadar hain aur kisi hamdardi k qabil nai.
Ghum hota hai sis. Corruption ki wajhe se ghareeb aur masoom log kaisi kaisi aziyaton ke shikar huey hain, ye soch ke rooh tak zakhmi ho jati hai. Aur han tum sach kehti ho ke aise hukamraan tab hi baste hain jab awam khud kharab ho jaane keliye teyar ho, werna ik pal bhi koi inhen tikne na de. Magar jaise ke Allah ta 'ala ne farmaya hai ke, jab tak koi qaum khud ko na badle gi Allah bhi unke halat nahi badlen ge, to dua ke siwa keya kar sakte hain. Allah tamaam musalmanon ko hidayat de. Ameen.
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tigerkhan
07-08-2012, 03:34 AM
:sl:
if u see the condition of women in africa, it much worse than what is shown in this video. even i say pakistan is much more better than many of asian countries (india, nepal, sirlanka etc). 2ndly i belong to same area of pakistan (abbottabbad) and i know alhumdullaih ppl there r comparatively better financially, and women have more independence as compared to other part of pakistan. so this paki media is bullshit and they alwasy exaggerate to sell their stories.

the bottom line is we r muslim, all what we need to do is to follow islam in true way to get successfull in this world and akhra. we r not here to work day n night for world and make millions of dollar for our kids to live happily. we r muslims and we need to be follow guidance and balance of islam in every matter of life.
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Scimitar
07-08-2012, 10:46 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Snowflake
It's not about women driving brother. She is a widowed taxi driver and took this job to support her children who have since grown up and abandoned her except the little girl in the vid. She was attacked and got her arm broken. She takes on jobs driving men to dangerous places. The mahram issue is obvious but is deliberately ignored because voicing it will mean those who object to what she is doing should be ready to provide for her.
Catch 22 situation. Sad state of affairs in Pakistan if a Muslim country cannot endorse mahram duty.

Scimi
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Pure Purple
07-08-2012, 12:04 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by tigerkhan
if u see the condition of women in africa, it much worse than what is shown in this video. even i say pakistan is much more better than many of asian countries (india, nepal, sirlanka etc).
^o) How much u know about india?on what basis u arrived to this conclusion?
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tigerkhan
07-08-2012, 01:08 PM
:sl:
SBS documentaries...lol
http://www.sbs.com.au/television/
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Pure Purple
07-08-2012, 01:12 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by tigerkhan
SBS documentaries...lol
http://www.sbs.com.au/television/
ye kya hai?Koi pakistani channel ka link
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Scimitar
07-08-2012, 01:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Pure Purple
^o) How much u know about india?on what basis u arrived to this conclusion?
This is a good point sis, India is atleast tolerant of women driving cars... most of them ride motorbikes ;) it's a different culture shock in India.
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Endymion
07-08-2012, 03:20 PM
Yup,if they are lucky enough to live and grow up to ride bikes and cars on Indian roads as so many of them get killed in mother's womb.
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Periwinkle18
07-08-2012, 04:30 PM
yeh khabar may nay kyun nahe parhe :S hmm its shocking for me cuz this lady lives in sarhad (i dont like calling it khayber pahtoon khawah :p) n i;ve heard tht they dont let their women go out hmm i duno
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CosmicPathos
07-08-2012, 04:48 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Periwinkle18
yeh khabar may nay kyun nahe parhe :S hmm its shocking for me cuz this lady lives in sarhad (i dont like calling it khayber pahtoon khawah :p) n i;ve heard tht they dont let their women go out hmm i duno
not just sarhad, but punjab as well. my own family members dont let women of our house go out (except for uni education or necessities).

But in modern cities like karachi, lahore, isloo, women do go out. I think it depends on the family lineage, family status, aur islam ka ilm. Traditional mazboot khaandan walay apni aurton ko baahar nahein jaanay dete.
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Periwinkle18
07-08-2012, 05:44 PM
same hea i had to take permission frm my rents to go n work( was getting bored at home n wasnt allowed to go to a uni cuz its mixed) plus my boss requested my sis so my rents said ok, alhumdulillah my stupid community doesnt know though , its not allowed they say tht men go out to work women stay home.If they find out the news is gng to spread like fire its just crazy
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CosmicPathos
07-08-2012, 05:51 PM
sis you are teaching lil kids, i think that's okay :p
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Periwinkle18
07-08-2012, 05:58 PM
lol well its just not allowed in our community, chinioti's well they think too much of themselves just because they hav lots of money buh my families kinda different which is good :)
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Haya emaan
07-08-2012, 07:29 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by CosmicPathos
not just sarhad, but punjab as well. my own family members dont let women of our house go out (except for uni education or necessities).

But in modern cities like karachi, lahore, isloo, women do go out. I think it depends on the family lineage, family status, aur islam ka ilm. Traditional mazboot khaandan walay apni aurton ko baahar nahein jaanay dete.
many families dont allow their women to go to uni also... pathans are more strict in these matters but it happens every where in families who blindly follow its so called " riwayaat". aurat ko ghr baith kr faqo say marnay ki ijazat to hay laikin wo apnay bacho ya ghr walo ka pait palnay k lie ghr say nikal kr qadeem khandani riwayaat nhi tor sakti..



we live in modern world. we need well educated muslim women (in both deen nd worldy education ) who can raise our new generation in the best productive manner, who can fight the challenges of the time. jinhain apni hudood may reh kr zamanay k sath chalnay ka sha'ur ho. jo buray waqt may apnay mardon ka sahara bn sakain.and who can compete the "modern" women of today..

islam nay baishak aurat ka maqam ghr rakha hy laikin na us pr taleem k darwazay bnd kie hain or na hudood may reh kr apni zaruryaat puri krnay k lie mehnat mushaqqat say roka hy... pta nhi in riwayaat k pujari logo ko ye baat kb samjh aegi..
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CosmicPathos
07-08-2012, 07:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Haya emaan

many families dont allow their women to go to uni also... pathans are more strict in these matters but it happens every where in families who blindly follow its so called " riwayaat". aurat ko ghr baith kr faqo say marnay ki ijazat to hay laikin wo apnay bacho ya ghr walo ka pait palnay k lie ghr say nikal kr qadeem khandani riwayaat nhi tor sakti..



we live in modern world. we need well educated muslim women (in both deen nd worldy education ) who can raise our new generation in the best productive manner, who can fight the challenges of the time. jinhain apni hudood may reh kr zamanay k sath chalnay ka sha'ur ho. jo buray waqt may apnay mardon ka sahara bn sakain.and who can compete the "modern" women of today..

islam nay baishak aurat ka maqam ghr rakha hy laikin na us pr taleem k darwazay bnd kie hain or na hudood may reh kr apni zaruryaat puri krnay k lie mehnat mushaqqat say roka hy... pta nhi in riwayaat k pujari logo ko ye baat kb samjh aegi..
ppl in Stone age also thought they live in modern world compared to people before.

You dont need "secular education" to educate your kids. Kids' education means imparting them values such as honesty, integrity, truthfulness, responsibility, loyalty, respect, morality, justice etc. A shoemaker can impart these values as good as a M.D. Cardiac surgeon. Rest, kids learn on their own to face the world via schooling and peers.

taleem tub farz hai jb taleem us kay emaan ko destroy karnay ka khatra na ho aur jab taleem halal tareekon say haasil ki jaa rahee ho. Most unis in Pak are co-educational by the way.
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Endymion
07-08-2012, 07:48 PM
Subhanallah,i wonder if one day i found Minwatul Khayal also speaking Urdu :hmm: Guess every one here can understand and speak Urdu :omg:
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Periwinkle18
07-09-2012, 01:10 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by CosmicPathos
Most unis in Pak are co-educational by the way.
lol i would say almost all :p n the atmosphere's horrible
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tigerkhan
07-09-2012, 05:34 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Pure Purple
ye kya hai?Koi pakistani channel ka link
nhe australian chanel ha with a lot of documentries about india. even today i see a documnetry about ganga river pollution and hindus religious believes of bathing and drinking from it.

format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar
This is a good point sis, India is atleast tolerant of women driving cars... most of them ride motorbikes ;) it's a different culture shock in India.
i was not talking of women to allowed for work or not, i was talking in sence of voilation of women rights and their respect in society.
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Pure Purple
07-09-2012, 01:33 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by tigerkhan
nhe australian chanel ha with a lot of documentries about india. even today i see a documnetry about ganga river pollution and hindus religious believes of bathing and drinking from it.
I thought u are talking of muslim indian women ,and not hindus,who drinks ganga river water.
It looks more dirty,polluted in T.V screen but actually it is a pure water.(,no I mean according to hindus )
its actually more dirty and polluted what its looks on T.V screens.According to me.
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FatimaSumayia
07-12-2012, 10:06 AM
She is a one Strong woman =(
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