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anonymous
07-25-2012, 09:08 PM
I desperately need some help. I am so confused and I think possibly paranoid at the moment, it's just making me feel really down, and making me doubt every single thing I do. I had been doing the secret habbit in the past but shukaralhamdulillah I have stopped and inshallah will never return to it. However now I am so paranoid about everything, I don't remember what I touched while I did do the secret habbit, and I feel like everything in my house is now impure. Sometimes I didn't do wudu or ghusl afterwards and now I feel like everything I had touched back then in too impure. I don't remember what I did and did not touch I thought I touched the praying rug so I put it in the wash now, but now I think the sin of other people who have used that rugs prayers not being counted is on me. I am throwing away some dishes. Everytime I sit on my bed I;m not sure if its ok or not so I feel like I need to make wudu or ghusl again. When I want to pray I feel like i'm never clean enough to pray because all of my clothes at some point have touched the bed, so I waste time worrying about what to wear, and then this puts me off praying because it takes such a long time for me to reach a decision.

Also can somone tell me what counts as a binding promise to Allah? If you're just generally talking, like I ramble and talk alot to Allah and alot of the times I say 'I will do that tomorrow Allah' or 'Inshallah I will do that tomorrow Allah', or sometimes I might not even use the word Allah but I will be talking to God and will say 'I will do that tomorrow/inshallah I will do that tomorrow'. If you don't use the word 'promise' does it count as a binding promise? Also in the past I made loads of promises in which I may have use the word promise or asked for Allah's help and said i will read so many pages from the Quran in the next so many days. And I can't remember how many but I know I broke some of these promises. What do I do if I don't remember how many it was? Like I said I am so confused.

Also does saying this stuff here, asking about it count as exposing my sins? Do I get gunah for this? Please somebody help me.
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جوري
07-25-2012, 09:55 PM
:sl: akhi or ukhty,

I think you're the same individual who posts the same worry over and over.. Can you not see that you need medical treatment? There's nothing to be ashamed of there are many people who have your condition remember Howard Hughes or Michelangelo or even Einstein .. You need treatment and none of us are equipped to give it here and even if we were we can't treat you virtually you need to see someone on regular basis to work to undo some of this behavior patterns and possibly medications.
I implore you to visit a psychiatrist or someone who will give you a referral to a specialist.
This won't go away by advise given here and it won't go away with you writing about it whenever an obsessive thought overtakes you!
May Allah swt grant you shifaa
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anonymous
07-25-2012, 10:14 PM
I'm sorry I don't think I'm the person you're referring to. I don't know what you mean - medical treatment?

I haven't posted on this forum in years.

I don't think it was a good idea posting here, mods please delete this thread.
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Hamza Asadullah
07-25-2012, 11:02 PM
Originally Posted by anonymous
I desperately need some help. I am so confused and I think possibly paranoid at the moment, it's just making me feel really down, and making me doubt every single thing I do. I had been doing the secret habbit in the past but shukaralhamdulillah I have stopped and inshallah will never return to it. However now I am so paranoid about everything, I don't remember what I touched while I did do the secret habbit, and I feel like everything in my house is now impure. Sometimes I didn't do wudu or ghusl afterwards and now I feel like everything I had touched back then in too impure. I don't remember what I did and did not touch I thought I touched the praying rug so I put it in the wash now, but now I think the sin of other people who have used that rugs prayers not being counted is on me. I am throwing away some dishes. Everytime I sit on my bed I;m not sure if its ok or not so I feel like I need to make wudu or ghusl again. When I want to pray I feel like i'm never clean enough to pray because all of my clothes at some point have touched the bed, so I waste time worrying about what to wear, and then this puts me off praying because it takes such a long time for me to reach a decision.

Also can somone tell me what counts as a binding promise to Allah? If you're just generally talking, like I ramble and talk alot to Allah and alot of the times I say 'I will do that tomorrow Allah' or 'Inshallah I will do that tomorrow Allah', or sometimes I might not even use the word Allah but I will be talking to God and will say 'I will do that tomorrow/inshallah I will do that tomorrow'. If you don't use the word 'promise' does it count as a binding promise? Also in the past I made loads of promises in which I may have use the word promise or asked for Allah's help and said i will read so many pages from the Quran in the next so many days. And I can't remember how many but I know I broke some of these promises. What do I do if I don't remember how many it was? Like I said I am so confused.

Also does saying this stuff here, asking about it count as exposing my sins? Do I get gunah for this? Please somebody help me.
Asalaamu Alaikum, She did not mean any harm as she was referring to someone who had similar issues as you have. What you are experiencing are clearly irrational thoughts, something called waswas (insinuating whispers of shaythan) and that is why you are getting such paranoid and irrational thoughts and feelings.

Waswas can become a very serious issue and it may take away the pleasure in worship and instead replace it with constant worry whether a person did Wudu or Salaah properly. It can become a very serious issue as a person will feel overwhelmed by paranoia with regards to theri worship and will always feel a sense of inadequacy.

In worship terms Waswas means always have doubts about ones worship and not be sure of anything relating to worship as there is always a doubt there and this serious disease and illness is caused by shaythan.


What are some of the symptoms of waswas?

-You pray and then be not sure if you did.

- You waste too much water and long time in wudu and ghusl.

- You pray more than the number of rakats and do the sahu sujud every time. Even you pray more than once.

- you are not sure if your clothes are clean and every moment change your clothes.

- You follow the tiny things that are not even seen by eyes to clean them and remove them.

- You worry too much and feel your worship is not complete.

- You ask strange questions that people feel amazed about and show strange behavior for example: someone walks with shoes on the carpet until the spot where she prays just because she is not sure if the land is clean.

- You spend a very long time in the bathroom, just washing.

- You are not sure of any worship you did is complete.

And many other strange things that can tell you are suffering form waswas.


Waswas can become a serious problem especially if a person suffers from it constantly. Shaythan keeps putting doubts in ones mind and keeps telling the person that their prayer or wudu ghusl etc are not valid and that you have missed something out or not done it proprly and so you should do it again.

Your clothes are not clean, wash them again and so on. The person keeps falling for this and by this time shaythan knows that this has become the persons weakness so shaythan is able to attack the person in many different angles.


Eventually shaythan will go onto more serious matters of faith until he tries to convince a person that "Are you sure Allah exists"? Or shaythan tries to cast doubts in the mind of a person by convincing them that they had shirk thoughts and so they must do the shahada again because they have now become a kaafir and are out of the fold of Islam.

Here are some real stories of people having waswas problem:

A woman said: For 16 years, I everyday have shower and take shahada because I suddenly feel I am not sure, I am Muslim.

A guy said: For years I pray and think I did not until I stopped praying at all.

A woman said: I used to pray the prayer and keep repeating it until the next prayer.


The best way's to resolve Extreme cases of waswas are:


1. Waswas can occur with pretty much any practising Muslim particularly if they do not have sufficient knowledge of Islam and matters pertaining to fiqhi rulings.


They care so much about wanting to worship right and please Allah and get so worried whether their deed has been accepted or not by Allah but the fact is they just do not know enough about Islam especially fiqhi matters.

So it is VERY important to learn about Fiqh and various other aspects of Islam. Knowledge is key to eradicating this problem from your life!

Join some fiqh classes face to face or online. Learn about other important aspects of Islam to. keep learning, learning and learning and you watch how these evil thoughts dissapear inshallah.


2. JUST IGNORE shaythans whispers. He will keep telling you your worship is incorrect or you have missed out something in your salaah then you must NOT repeat the Salaah again.


When you have done Wudu and something tells you that you have missed out something or have not done it properly then IGNORE those whispers.


If shaythan tells you to do ghusl again because you never did it properly then IGNORE and NEVER obey these evil and deceptive whispers!


If shaythan tries to tell you that you have attributed partners with Allah and that you have done shirk then IGNORE IT. He wants you to lose your faith and think that you have committed blasphemy when you have not done anything of the sort. if the mind wanders sometimes then that is fine all of our minds wander.


Sayyiduna Abu Haraira (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that once a group of people came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and asked: “We experience such evil thoughts that it is impossible to bring them on our lips”. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Do you really experience these thoughts? Yes, they replied. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “They are clear signs of faith”. (Sahih Muslim).


So these are signs of faith and ultimately, we are not held to account for these thoughts. However, we will be held to account if we act on these thoughts.


Shaythan will then try to make you think that you did act on these feelings when all you did was involuntarily wandered about them in your mind. Even if they did linger in your mind it does not mean you acted on it. Almost all of us have random thoughts and absurdities going on in our minds all of the time it does not mean we necesserily believe what we thought of.

Do NOT ever give in to these thoughts for shaythan is just trying to be clever but knowledge will give on the upper hand!

Whenever you get these whispers then just think: IT IS SHAYTHAN TRYING TO DECIEVE ME AND PUT ME OFF MY WORSHIP!


3. Once you have completed Wudu then move on and ignore whatever shaythan tells you regardless of how serious it sounds. You have completed it and there is no need to think of it anymore. Once you have completed your Salaah then move on and continue with the next one or get on with whatever you are doing with your day or evening. Do not think about it and ignore any thoughts associated with the worship you have just done.


Whatever you have completed is done and is over and there is NOTHING more you can do about it so do not think back that you could have done this or that or whether you need to repeat it etc. These doubts will not affect the prayer or wudu etc which you have completed so disregard and reject the whispers that tell you otherwise.


These are all tricks of shaythan and you need to realise what his angles are. You need to play him at his own game and that way you will have the upper hand everytime!


Just think of what you need to do to please Allah and do not be extreme in religion.


4. Who decides whether your worship will be complete or not? Shaythan or Allah? So by listening to the whispers of shaythan then you are simply obeying Shaythan over Allah! Therefore we must ignore his evil whispers and realise that ONLY Allah can accept our deeds so we should obey Allah and ignore these waswas.



5. If you get waswas then recite the following:


A'udhu billaahi minashaythanirajeem


and


La Hawla Wala Quwatha Illah billahil aliyyil Adheem



Also recite the four Quls Morning and evening and Ayatul Kursi Morning, before going to sleep and after every prayer.

If shaythan whispers to you in prayer then look lft and spittle and recite A'udhu billaahi minashaythanirajeem


thank Allah, wholeheartedly, for enabling you to overcome your desires and shaytan [saying, Alhamdulillah (‘All praise is due to Allah’)]; this makes Shaytan despair, and strengthens one’s resolve.


The following verse of Surah al-mu’minun may also be beneficial:


“Rabbi inni a’uzu bika min hamazat ashayatin wa a’uzu bika rabbi an yahdurun”


Trans: O my Lord! I seek your protection from the instigations of devils and I also seek your protection from that they (ever) come to me.



6. Why disobey Allah and listen to shaythans whispers? By constantly repeating wudu, salaah and wasting so much time then we are going against Allah and instead listening to shaythans evil whispers. The fact is Allah wants you to reject the waswas but shaythan wants you to accept them, then who will you listen to? The choice is yours...


A desert Arab came to Allah's Apostle and asked him about ablution. He demonstrated (washing each part of his body) thrice, and then said: That is (the method) of the ablution. And he who does more than this has done wrong, transgressed the limit and has oppressed (himself). (Tirmidhi #417 , Nasa'i, Ibn Majah, and Abu Dawud)


This hadith proves that one does NOT need to keep repeating the wudu over and over for no reason just because shaythan is telling us to repeat it. We would then transgress and oppress ourselves by doing so! Sameway one does not have to repeat the ghusl or prayers again and again for no reason just because shaythan tells us to. We are praying for Allah so shaythan has NO say in it and NEVER has!



7. It is unlikely that you will not be able to conquer waswas overnight. Shaythan will not give up so easily for he will try and make you feel like you just don't care anymore about your worship or shirk etc but again this is just one of his many tactics that he uses to try and put off Allah's worshippers and so know that you know the different angels then you are now more equiped to fight these evil whispers.


There are many more different angles that the shaythan will use but they will all be similar in nature, so if you follow these tips then eventually you will be able to eradicate this disease out of your life FOREVER! and start to enjoy your worship of Allah again Inshallah.


So countract all of these negative thoughts that you get after worship with positive thoughts and realise that ONLY Allah can accept your deeds and knows what is in your heart not Shaythan for he is just a deciever!


Allah Most High has promised,

“As for those who strive in Us, We surely guide them to Our paths, and lo! Allah is with the good.” [Qur’an, 29.69]

Please see download the following:

Combatting the whispers of shaythan:

http://islamicexorcism.files.wordpre...f-shaytaan.pdf

The following thread may also help:

http://www.islamicboard.com/manners-...s-worship.html


If you need anymore help or advice then please do not hesitate to ask. The main thing you must concentrate on is making the best of this blessed month. Ask of Allah and beg of him to help you with this especially beforre Fajr begins and jus before opening fast each day at Iftar.



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جوري
07-26-2012, 01:41 AM
Indeed my humble apologies .. I thought you were the sane member with OCD.

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