Your Opinion: WANTED

[Scimitar]

Assalaam alaikum.

I received this PM (not going to name the member) a few days ago:

Okay what I wanted to ask was what you think about a site that would rival youtube? I'm not thinking of sites like halatube/islamic tube. But a halal version of youtube without the anti islamic and explicit/haram content.

And do you know anything about setting up a video sharing site? I'm really keen to do this insha Allah, and think you have the expertise to back something like this. Let me know your thoughts insha Allah.

So, what do you think?

I know there are some Islamic youtube sites out there, But this site is not meant to be for strictly Islamic content. The idea is that the site will be like youtube, but minus all the music, and haraam stuff they show...

The member who pm'd me is looking for an appropriate name to call the site. What would you imagine it to be like, how would it work etc?

Some of the suggestions I gave the member have already been taken.

Your opinions will be appreciated.

Scimi

[IbnAbdulHakim]

flickthrough.com?

[Scimitar]

I do like that bro :)

[Snowflake]

I know these are islamic but might have to compromise as other names are limited. I really like deenstreet.

deenstreet.com
deentrack.com /trackdeen.com
islamcut.com
portislam.com



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[Snowflake]

flickerjam?

[IbnAbdulHakim]

i really REALLY like flickerjam !!

[Scimitar]

TrueTube

TruthTube

(that's if all the tube URLs arent taken)

[Snowflake]

They're taken. I think youtube bought them all. What about flickerjam?

[Scimitar]

sounds like a club,

[Snowflake]

What kind of club? If it's a movie club then that's not bad.

[IbnAbdulHakim]

flickerjam sounds like something easy to remember, fun, simple etc.

its got an amazingly unique ring to it, and it is easy to reverberate.

the name has a lot of potential

[Snowflake]

^ I agree.

(Well I would)

[IslamicRevival]

Muslamicrayguns.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL1jDcAHkc8

[Snowflake]

^How does that relate to this thread bro?

[Scimitar]

I guess the URL has been bought now, so - flickerjam is it :)

Scimi

[Scimitar]

Muslamicrayguns.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL1jDcAHkc8

LOL, Vision, that guy in the video is a complete wasteman, a wasted one at that... here check out the remix (make sure you got a soft drink and popcorn with you) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5VDbu-HLMs

[IslamicRevival]

^How does that relate to this thread bro?

It doesn't, just posted for a laugh :)
Scimi, lol :D Good luck with project.

[IbnAbdulHakim]

mashAllah great name.

when will it be live?

and I hope you wont prevent material such as videos from abdul hakim murad etc. invaluable sources of knowledge

[Snowflake]

Jazak Allah khayr

I can't say for sure, but pray soon insha Allah.

and I hope you wont prevent material such as videos from abdul hakim murad etc. invaluable sources of knowledge

It'll be like youtube (minus the haram) and members will be able to upload their own videos, comment, like/dislike etc. But the best thing will be that no one will ever be able to put up a video insulting Allah, and our beloved Prophet (salallahu alayhi wa sallam).

[Marina-Aisha]

sounds like great idea remind me of a site i use too watched when i was non muslim expect it was like youtube but all the videos were of britney spears lol..but i think great idea but i dunno bout the name is doesnt say anything bout site theres no indication that its a islamic site you know? here my lame ideas lol thetruthsonislam.com, Allahtruth.com or Allahtruthvideos.com?

[Snowflake]

sounds like great idea remind me of a site i use too watched when i was non muslim expect it was like youtube but all the videos were of britney spears lol..but i think great idea but i dunno bout the name is doesnt say anything bout site theres no indication that its a islamic site you know? here my lame ideas lol thetruthsonislam.com, Allahtruth.com or Allahtruthvideos.com?

Thank you sis.

Insha Allah, this site is in honour of Rasulullah (salallahu alayhi wa sallam) and our response to youtube’s refusal to remove the offending anti-islamic videos insulting our beloved Prophet (salallahu alayhi wa sallam). Insha Allah, the main reason for doing this site is that it will be possible to remove content that is morally and religiously offensive, making it more suitable for the muslim user. The site will include other content as long as it is halal e.g. cookery, DIY, educational and more - just like you tube. So I felt a neutral name is more suitable for it. :)



P.S. I am still open to other names as long as they are neutral(ish).

[Marina-Aisha]

Thank you sis.

Insha Allah, this site is in honour of Rasulullah (salallahu alayhi wa sallam) and our response to youtube’s refusal to remove the offending anti-islamic videos insulting our beloved Prophet (salallahu alayhi wa sallam). Insha Allah, the main reason for doing this site is that it will be possible to remove content that is morally and religiously offensive, making it more suitable for the muslim user. The site will include other content as long as it is halal e.g. cookery, DIY, educational and more - just like you tube. So I felt a neutral name is more suitable for it. :)



P.S. I am still open to other names as long as they are neutral(ish).

okay maybe halaltube?halalarchives?thejourneytohalal?pretty lame i know but u get where im going something that says it islamic site..im sure someone else has better ideas..

[Snowflake]

Sis, could you correct my typo in (salallahu alayhi wa sallam) where you quoted me please. Jazak Allahu khayr :)

okay maybe halaltube?halalarchives?thejourneytohalal?pretty lame i know but u get where im going something that says it islamic site..im sure someone else has better ideas..

I was open to the idea of an islamic name before but all the good ones were taken. But then I became two minded as the site wont be strictly islamic like halaltube/islamictube etc. So I'm not sure.. TBH, I just want a normal video sharing site that is controlled by muslims so no one can insult our religion/Prophet (SAW) :)

Why do you think it must have an islamic name? :)

[Scimitar]

flickerjam is growing on me too now :D even though I still feel it's not describing the site well enough...

Some other suggestions I came up with are:

deenwatch.com

wideo.com (asian dialect for saying the word video lol, also rhymes with vimeo - which is a brilliant video sharing site so is easy to remember)

NMV.com (abbreviated from New Muslim Video)

ilmstreet.com (sounds a bit like elm street, but it's ILM street, get it?)

MuslimTV.com - nice and easy

strictlyhalal.com (and you know it)

nasheedTV.com (gives off a good vibe)

DhikrBox.com (sounds like that ice-cream, whats it called again? :D)

nowadays, you can get URL's with the " .TV " extension that replaces the common " .com" extensions et al.... now that is an interesting avenue to explore isn't it?

See if you can get the .tv extension, I really REALLY like it.

Scimi

[~Zaria~]

I was open to the idea of an islamic name before but all the good ones were taken. But then I became two minded as the site wont be strictly islamic like halaltube/islamictube etc. So I'm not sure.. TBH, I just want a normal video sharing site that is controlled by muslims so no one can insult our religion/Prophet (SAW) :)

Why do you think it must have an islamic name? :)

Assalamu-alaikum ukthi,

I think we should only embark on such a project with an intention is to keep its content 'strictly islamic'.
(Which also means that videos need to be 'screened' by its admin (which should ideally have knowledgable muslims in the study of deen) - to filter out those videos that may be promoting an view-point thats not reflected in Quraan and Sunnah.
e.g. what to do with Shia uploadings? etc......

Secondly, Islam is a way of life.
So, videos on food, lifestyle, world news, etc - are all important aspects of Islam.

I think an Islamic name is important because:
- We are muslim, and proud of it : )
- If we wish to keep its content halaal, then an Islamic name would automatically infer this.
- The basis for this idea is that we wish to have an Islamic friendly video-sharing channel......so it would make sense to have an Islamic name : )

flickerjam is growing on me too now :D even though I still feel it's not describing the site well enough...

Some other suggestions I came up with are:

deenwatch.com

wideo.com (asian dialect for saying the word video lol, also rhymes with vimeo - which is a brilliant video sharing site so is easy to remember)

NMV.com (abbreviated from New Muslim Video)

ilmstreet.com (sounds a bit like elm street, but it's ILM street, get it?)

MuslimTV.com - nice and easy

strictlyhalal.com (and you know it)

nasheedTV.com (gives off a good vibe)

DhikrBox.com (sounds like that ice-cream, whats it called again? :D)

nowadays, you can get URL's with the " .TV " extension that replaces the common " .com" extensions et al.... now that is an interesting avenue to explore isn't it?

See if you can get the .tv extension, I really REALLY like it.

Scimi

Great suggestions akhee.

I particularly like: ilmstreet.com, MuslimTV.com and strictlyhalal.com


This is an excellent initiative guys!
MashaAllah, keep the creative juices flowing.

:wa:

[Scimitar]

We gonna need some MASSIVE... no, MAHOOOOOSSIVE server space if we are to accomplish this. Seriously, we gonna need real financial backing for this project.

Scimi

[Snowflake]

Wa alaykum assalam wa rahmatullah wb both,


Thank you for your encouragement and suggestions ukhti Zaria :)

One of the reasons why I prefer a neutral name is that I hope it would attract non muslim audiences to visit the site with a neutral frame of mind, as opposed to an Islamic name which is like rag flag to a bull so that they come with the intention of bashing Islam. The site itself would then act as a dawah tool by showing a clean, peaceful and friendly Islamic environment. Allahu alam. But that is what I secretly hoped for in keeping a neutral name.

But seeing, that an Islamic name is being favoured more, I am willing to change it insha Allah.

Scimi, I like wedeo.com, (I see the 'we' as in ummah) but it's taken, and so are other variations that I tried - such as wideo and wedio. (Apparently the shorter the name, the more people remember it and have ease spreading it.)

How do the following sound to you guys?

deenbox >>> could hear the nasheeds in the background as I say it
deenpad >>> as in a landing pad
deenstreet >>> We could have sign post for the logo. That will look AMAZING! :)



to give an idea for a logo...

Jazakumullah khayr to everyone who is helping. Masha Allah :statisfie

[IbnAbdulHakim]

say theres a person out there somewhere, who has, even though being a disbeliever, managed to maintain a decent fitrah and dislikes all forms of dishonest/shameless/vulgar videos etc.

This person may wish to watch a halal, decent cooking show or even brush up on some knowledge of IT principles etc. Slowly the barakah of this site, the blessings Allah bestows on it, wil shine through to the user but what we really dont want is this user being putoff immediately.


hence why I suggested flickerjam and I think although everything should be islamic, we should make it in a way that the whole world feels welcome to it.


However I make dua whatever is used, is blessed by Allaah.

[Snowflake]

^That's what I was thinking.

Ameen to your dua.

And I would miss flickerjam :x

[Marina-Aisha]

i like deenwatch..deenstreet sounds nice :)

[Snowflake]

Deenwatch reminds me of islamwatch (a hate site). I like deenstreet because it could have a great sign-post logo to go with it.

[Snowflake]

We gonna need some MASSIVE... no, MAHOOOOOSSIVE server space if we are to accomplish this. Seriously, we gonna need real financial backing for this project.

Scimi

How much roughly?

However, we will accomplish it insha Allah.

[IbnAbdulHakim]

futtuwatiladeen - footstepstoreligion


^ long i know but its got a ring to it?


i like steppingstones too

[Snowflake]

I can't even say that. This is me, 'fu-tu-wa-ti-la-deen'.

[IbnAbdulHakim]

its

fu - tu - waat

ila

Deen

Footsteps

to

Religion

[Snowflake]

islaminfinity?

[Snowflake]

Here's some more options. If we can decide on a name soon, I can get it registered for work to begin insha Allah.

eyeislam
routeislam
ummahcam
deencam114
camislam
shoutislam
signalislam
islamjam
deenwatch

[IslamicRevival]

^ Salamtube.tv is another one.

[Scimitar]

deenwatch has been mentioned twice now. Interesting.

A member PM'd me this:

:sl:

What do you think of naming the site peacetube (its available) in partnership with peace TV ?

interesting, because to make this site take off, it will need some form of sponsorship. NOt to mention the cost of hosting on servers that will have some BIG files on them, and are getting accessed by peeps all over the world. We don;t want bottlenecks on the site availability due to excessive numbers of peeps trying to watch videos.

peacetube.tv - is very remeniscent of peaceTV website... if they agree to sponsor it, it could be just the ticket insha-Allah

[Snowflake]

deenwatch has been mentioned twice now. Interesting.

A member PM'd me this:



interesting, because to make this site take off, it will need some form of sponsorship. NOt to mention the cost of hosting on servers that will have some BIG files on them, and are getting accessed by peeps all over the world. We don;t want bottlenecks on the site availability due to excessive numbers of peeps trying to watch videos.

peacetube.tv - is very remeniscent of peaceTV website... if they agree to sponsor it, it could be just the ticket insha-Allah

I got the PM too, but I am not sure if peacetv will be able sponsor the site as they themselves ask for donations/zakah to run their own tv channel/projects. Secondly, there's already someone I've decided to offer partnership to.

I think the servers may not be too big a problem. I think my son's dad has his own servers but he is out of the country atm. I'll get my son to ask him when he calls him tomorrow insha Allah.

Right now, it's proving quite difficult to choose a domain name so I think we should have a poll. I'll try to put one up tomorrow insha Allah.

[Scimitar]

Insha-Allah,

A poll is a good idea for a thread such as this one. I'm pleased you have been working on cementing a partnership. I really hope they accept it.

Let me know if there is anything else I can do. From the 29th I'll be on my travels so won't have the chance to be online much for a whole month.

Scimi

[PurpleCup]

There are so many out there that fall in that theme and none of them are hugely popular. They all have a small audience. I know as people have ideas so do others have those same ideas. Unless you are planning to make it super unique and different than the others why even dive into that avenue when you know you have nothing new to offer?<br><br>As people feel quite fond of their ideas, please know that a website I know who caters to this theme exactly spent $100K on his website only to see a lifeless website. He has many things going on not just Islamic videos. ( That wasn't necessary and I guess he has $$ to spend but that just goes to show you that all the money doesn't mean you will have a successful website. <br><br>Unless you have 75-90 hours a week to work on promoting your website to do it the "free way" or you pay big bucks for advertising each month. Forget about networking with Muslims online because only a tiny tiny portion understand that to help the brothers and sister in Islam RISE TO THE NEXT STEP is part of our deen. Many assume not responding to e-mail, or writing back angry letters is okay in Islam. <br><br>What is needed are sites that cater to Muslim webmasters that offer low cost logo's or help with branding a site professionally. What is needed are more banner exchange website catering to Muslims. What is needed is Islamic advertising like that of Google Ads which is based on a point system not a pay for clicks systems. <br><br>After having been there done that feeling I just feel that such an idea has been visited many of times and its nothing unique. That's my 2 cents.<img src="http://www.islamicboard.com/images/smilies/wow1.gif" alt="" title="nervous" smilieid="139" class="inlineimg" border="0"><br><br>

[PurpleCup]

There are so many out there that fall in that theme and none of them are hugely popular. They all have a small audience. I know as people have ideas so do others have those same ideas. Unless you are planning to make it super unique and different than the others why even dive into that avenue when you know you have nothing new to offer?<br><br>As people feel quite fond of their ideas, please know that a website I know who caters to this theme exactly spent $100K on his website only to see a lifeless website. He has many things going on not just Islamic videos. ( That wasn't necessary and I guess he has $$ to spend but that just goes to show you that all the money doesn't mean you will have a successful website. <br><br>Unless you have 75-90 hours a week to work on promoting your website to do it the "free way" or you pay big bucks for advertising each month. Forget about networking with Muslims online because only a tiny tiny portion understand that to help the brothers and sister in Islam RISE TO THE NEXT STEP is part of our deen. Many assume not responding to e-mail, or writing back angry letters is okay in Islam. <br><br>What is needed are sites that cater to Muslim webmasters that offer low cost logo's or help with branding a site professionally. What is needed are more banner exchange website catering to Muslims. What is needed is Islamic advertising like that of Google Ads which is based on a point system not a pay for clicks systems. <br><br>After having been there done that feeling I just feel that such an idea has been visited many of times and its nothing unique. That's my 2 cents.<img src="http://www.islamicboard.com/images/smilies/wow1.gif" alt="" title="nervous" smilieid="139" class="inlineimg" border="0"><br><br>

UGH it took me three times to get that reply out because I kept being logged out! I hate that about message boards!:phew:raging:

[Scimitar]

There are so many out there that fall in that theme and none of them are hugely popular. They all have a small audience. I know as people have ideas so do others have those same ideas. Unless you are planning to make it super unique and different than the others why even dive into that avenue when you know you have nothing new to offer?<br><br>As people feel quite fond of their ideas, please know that a website I know who caters to this theme exactly spent $100K on his website only to see a lifeless website. He has many things going on not just Islamic videos. ( That wasn't necessary and I guess he has $$ to spend but that just goes to show you that all the money doesn't mean you will have a successful website. <br><br>Unless you have 75-90 hours a week to work on promoting your website to do it the "free way" or you pay big bucks for advertising each month. Forget about networking with Muslims online because only a tiny tiny portion understand that to help the brothers and sister in Islam RISE TO THE NEXT STEP is part of our deen. Many assume not responding to e-mail, or writing back angry letters is okay in Islam. <br><br>What is needed are sites that cater to Muslim webmasters that offer low cost logo's or help with branding a site professionally. What is needed are more banner exchange website catering to Muslims. What is needed is Islamic advertising like that of Google Ads which is based on a point system not a pay for clicks systems. <br><br>After having been there done that feeling I just feel that such an idea has been visited many of times and its nothing unique. That's my 2 cents.<img src="http://www.islamicboard.com/images/smilies/wow1.gif" alt="" title="nervous" smilieid="139" class="inlineimg" border="0"><br><br>

My eyes hurt really bad now...

[Scimitar]

please know that a website I know who caters to this theme exactly spent $100K on his website only to see a lifeless website.

What site is that?

[Snowflake]

Insha-Allah,

A poll is a good idea for a thread such as this one. I'm pleased you have been working on cementing a partnership. I really hope they accept it.

Let me know if there is anything else I can do. From the 29th I'll be on my travels so won't have the chance to be online much for a whole month.

Scimi

Insha Allah.

Thanks bro, I really appreciate your help and support so far. I will need your help later in posting your vids on the new site and getting your friend/subscribers to do the same insha Allah.

Jazak Allahu khayr wa ajrun ADHEEM! Ameen.

[Snowflake]

There are so many out there that fall in that theme and none of them are hugely popular. They all have a small audience. I know as people have ideas so do others have those same ideas. Unless you are planning to make it super unique and different than the others why even dive into that avenue when you know you have nothing new to offer?<br><br>As people feel quite fond of their ideas, please know that a website I know who caters to this theme exactly spent $100K on his website only to see a lifeless website. He has many things going on not just Islamic videos. ( That wasn't necessary and I guess he has $$ to spend but that just goes to show you that all the money doesn't mean you will have a successful website. <br><br>Unless you have 75-90 hours a week to work on promoting your website to do it the "free way" or you pay big bucks for advertising each month. Forget about networking with Muslims online because only a tiny tiny portion understand that to help the brothers and sister in Islam RISE TO THE NEXT STEP is part of our deen. Many assume not responding to e-mail, or writing back angry letters is okay in Islam. <br><br>What is needed are sites that cater to Muslim webmasters that offer low cost logo's or help with branding a site professionally. What is needed are more banner exchange website catering to Muslims. What is needed is Islamic advertising like that of Google Ads which is based on a point system not a pay for clicks systems. <br><br>After having been there done that feeling I just feel that such an idea has been visited many of times and its nothing unique. That's my 2 cents.<img src="http://www.islamicboard.com/images/smilies/wow1.gif" alt="" title="nervous" smilieid="139" class="inlineimg" border="0"><br><br>

Jazaki Allah khayr for your post ukhti 3x times masha Allah :statisfie

I have thought about the things you've mentioned here. But if past experiences and failures have taught me anything, it's not to reveal too much way ahead of its time. Things always go KAPUT for me when I do. But qadr Allah.

[Insaanah]

futtuwatiladeen - footstepstoreligion

its

fu - tu - waat

ila

Deen

Footsteps

to

Religion

:sl:

Just a small correction inshaa'Allah. Footsteps are khutuwaat, not futuwaat.

As in this ayah:

O mankind, eat from whatever is on earth [that is] lawful and good and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy. (2:186)

May Allah help all involved in this endeavour, and make it successful, ameen.

[IbnAbdulHakim]

^ jazakAllah khair sis ! I need to brush up on my arabic :hiding:

[جوري]

futuwa

is a bad word in Egyptian Arabic lol.. when you call a guy that, it means he's a thug

[Scimitar]

Jazaki Allah khayr for your post ukhti 3x times masha Allah :statisfie

I have thought about the things you've mentioned here. But if past experiences and failures have taught me anything, it's not to reveal too much way ahead of its time. Things always go KAPUT for me when I do. But qadr Allah.

Sis, it's gonna be one BIG struggle to get this site noticed amongst the others that already exist. I also understand where sis Purple Cup is coming from, in her post. These other youtube-esque sites are not popular, and often fail due to the lack of awareness for them amongst the Muslim communities.

How do you propose to make this site get "noticed" and do you have experience in this department. If you do, can you give us an example of where a site you have put on the web, has enjoyed popularity?

Scimi

[Snowflake]

Sis, it's gonna be one BIG struggle to get this site noticed amongst the others that already exist. I also understand where sis Purple Cup is coming from, in her post. These other youtube-esque sites are not popular, and often fail due to the lack of awareness for them amongst the Muslim communities.

How do you propose to make this site get "noticed" and do you have experience in this department. If you do, can you give us an example of where a site you have put on the web, has enjoyed popularity?

Scimi

Do you have links to those sites bro? I've never come across any which is why I thought it'd be a good idea to make one. But if they are as I plan the new site to be then it's better to support one that already exists.

I've only ever put my own site up (retail) and that made me appreciate how difficult it is to advertise. I haven't been committed as I should with SEO, so I can understand what you mean about popularity. It's definitely harder than I imagined.

[Scimitar]

here are a few i remember off the top of my head:

http://www.halaltube.com/

http://www.muslimvideo.com/tv

http://www.tv.muxlim.com

http://www.islamictube.net

http://www.guidedways.com/islamicvideos

none of these have really taken off and still remain looking like beta versions because of it



I still think it can work, but like I said - you'll need one BIG sponsor for it, preferably a Muslim owned company that can afford it the exposure on the internet so it can get the awareness it deserves.

Unfortunately, that still means you will have to get a beta version up and running before you can even attempt to approach the potential sponsor for your idea - and the beta version really needs to be on par with youtube at the very least, maybe with a unique selling point attached to it - that youtube doesn't cater to.

Hard work, indeed.

Scimi

[Snowflake]

I had a look at the sites but they're different to what I have in mind and I find them difficult to navigate. My brother is doing his masters in film-making and it seemed appropriate to ask for his opinion on the idea. He likes it and thinks it can work but that it will require a lot of monitoring to keep it clean.

On the exposure side, there are various Islamic channels who I am certain will be more than happy to help advertise (maybe even sponsor) the website through their TV channels - one of which has successfully called ALL sects to forget their differences and gather for massive peaceful protest in London in defense of the Prophet's (peace be upon him) honour. Masha Allah. This makes me feel hopeful.

The site also could be a great way for muslims to advertises their businesses to muslim consumers. May Allah grant it success if it will be good for our deen dunya and akhirah.

P.S. I have decided to not register a new name for now.