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Roasted Cashew
12-17-2012, 03:59 PM



A tattoo is seen on the back of a Taliban militant who was killed during a gun battle in Peshawar December 16, 2012. Militants holed up in a half-built house in the northwestern Pakistani city of Peshawar traded gunfire with police on Sunday after taking part in an attack on a nearby airport the previous night officials said.

Source 1: http://news.yahoo.com/photos/tattoo-...115835887.html

One of the 10 terrorists involved in Saturday night’s brazen attack on Peshawar airport had Western-style “tattoos” on his body, raising questions about the identities of those behind the assault.

Security officials said at least five of the 10 attackers involved appeared to be Uzbek nationals. But counter-terrorism officials are perplexed by the discovery of a demonic “tattoo” on the back of one of the terrorists.....

Source 2: http://tribune.com.pk/story/480719/a...p-conclusions/
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cottonrainbow
12-17-2012, 06:06 PM
Wow!
so does this mean the Taliban are not Muslim, hence Muslims don't wear tattoos, right?
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Cabdullahi
12-17-2012, 06:14 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by cottonrainbow
Wow!
so does this mean the Taliban are not Muslim, hence Muslims don't wear tattoos, right?
The American government will say he is a convert to keep the bogeymen alive. They might come down to a city near you so get your popcorn and your mountain dew
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Jedi_Mindset
12-17-2012, 06:19 PM
There was another pic of another ''militant'' and he had a tatoo with a skull and 2 M4 rifles with underneath written semper fi, from what i know semper fi is used for US marines, so this could be blackwater agents.
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Jedi_Mindset
12-17-2012, 06:21 PM



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semper_fidelis
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Endymion
12-17-2012, 06:29 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by cottonrainbow
Wow!
so does this mean the Taliban are not Muslim, hence Muslims don't wear tattoos, right?
Good one,i enjoyed your question sis ;D
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Roasted Cashew
12-17-2012, 06:29 PM
I have called these Pakistani Taliban militants the scum of the earth since the very beginning. Yet, there were Muslims on this forum defending them like they were angels. Although this doesn't prove anything...it clearly tells us that we need to be wary of bearded and turbaned people claiming to be fighting in the cause of Allah.
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Scimitar
12-17-2012, 06:37 PM
^ what he said
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Endymion
12-17-2012, 06:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Roasted Cashew
I have called these Pakistani Taliban militants the scum of the earth since the very beginning. Yet, there were Muslims on this forum defending them like they were angels. Although this doesn't prove anything...it clearly tells us that we need to be wary of bearded and turbaned people claiming to be fighting in the cause of Allah.
Ermm...doesn't some "Muslims" in this forum said they are black water in disguise of Taliban :hmm:
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Roasted Cashew
12-17-2012, 06:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Endymion
Ermm...didn't some "Muslims" in this forum said they were black water in disguise of Taliban
Yes, there were some. However, these guys were Uzbek.
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Cabdullahi
12-17-2012, 06:42 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Roasted Cashew
Yes, there were some. However, these guys were Uzbek.
They have bikers tattoos in Uzbekistan?....Uzbekistan?
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Roasted Cashew
12-17-2012, 06:44 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Cabdullahi
They have bikers tattoos in Uzbekistan?....Uzbekistan?
Dunno! 5 of them were Uzbeks though according to the officials. Whether this particular militant with the tattoo is an Uzbek or not, it doesn't say so, if I am not mistaken.
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ardianto
12-18-2012, 06:12 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Roasted Cashew
Yes, there were some. However, these guys were Uzbek.
Uzbek?. I'm always thinking that Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan are "Pashtun only" groups.
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Roasted Cashew
12-18-2012, 06:16 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
Uzbek?. I'm always thought that Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan are "Pashtun only" groups.
NOT really.. There are Dagestani fighters as well.
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Jedi_Mindset
12-18-2012, 06:26 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Roasted Cashew
Yes, there were some. However, these guys were Uzbek.
Oh yes straight Semper fi on one of the militant's body, and you say: uzbek?
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Roasted Cashew
12-18-2012, 06:39 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Mindset
Oh yes straight Semper fi on one of the militant's body, and you say: uzbek?
I am not saying this guy with the tattoo is Uzbek. I am saying 5 of the 10 killed are Uzbeks as the officials have stated.
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Endymion
12-18-2012, 04:45 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Roasted Cashew
Yes, there were some. However, these guys were Uzbek.
Their Nationality is not the question here,their Identity is.
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Roasted Cashew
12-18-2012, 05:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Endymion
Their Nationality is not the question here,their Identity is.
Well, one part of your identity IS your nationality.
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Crimson
12-18-2012, 06:13 PM
Lol Taliban... they hold the Quran in one hand and murder people. The image they gave the rest of Islam is just too bad, if you claim to fight for Islam then do it right, don't murder innocent people, kill anyone that doesn't agree with you, etc. Protect them and you have simply been misguided.

Now as for the tattoo thing, it doesn't mean anything. Some scholars consider it haram and some don't so let Allah judge them on judgement day. But also remember, how many Muslims commit zina? Isn't zina a bigger sin than having a tattoo? As long as they say the shahada and believe it they are Muslims and having some ink on them doesn't mean they won't believe in Allah and his Prophet (saw).
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Perseveranze
12-18-2012, 07:37 PM
Asalaamu Alaikum,

Should you really be making such snide remarks towards your brother? Even if you disagree with them, does that still give anyone the right to insult, redicule and belittle them?

How do you know that this person got a tattoo when they were a kaafir and then reverted to Islam? Or, they got a tattoo whilst going through difficult times, and have since repented from this sin?

What about reverts today, who have tattoos (and there's many of them btw), that can't remove them for health/injury reasons? Are you going to doubt their Islam too?
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IslamicRevival
12-18-2012, 08:12 PM
The tattoo is actually incomplete http://www.mondotatuaggio.com/wp-con...-and-horns.jpg [Warning; Devil Tattoo] Maybe he was a revert who was in the process of getting it removed?

Either way the Pakistan Taliban are a despicable bunch of CIA backed assassins, no true Muslim would ever send suicide squads to random locations with the sole aim to kill and maim innocent people, its insanity and has nothing to do with Islam.
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Abz2000
12-18-2012, 08:57 PM
I heard from an afghan I was chatting with that they call anyone from afghanistan who resists them "Taliban" and anyone who comes to fight them from abroad "alqaeda".
So i don't believe it is wise -or respectful- for us just paint everyone with the same brush and condemn them, for among these people are those who support the cause of Allah with their property and their persons.

And regarding that devil horn sign that the western leaders and satanists make regularly, it looks to me like he was an asset of the bush and berlusconi type at least at one point in time - if not at the time of death.
google "devil horns hand sign" along with "bush" "Clinton" "Berlusconi" "satanist" and you'll realise he was most probably with the enemies at one point in time.
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~Zaria~
12-18-2012, 09:10 PM
Assalamu-alaikum,

This is an example of some-one who is covered in tattoos and body piercings, and alhamdulillah has turned his life around:








Allah (subhanawataála) knows best what was in the heart of this man at the time of his death.

We pray that Allah Taa'la forgives him and showers His mercy upon him.

For this man is no more - and whether he has passed on as a matyr or in a state of kufr will never be known to us.

Insha Allah, we should leave it at that.

:wa:
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tigerkhan
12-18-2012, 10:07 PM
:sl:
i am sorry but i think the real pic about Taliban is not very clear to u ppl bcz its gas been distorted by media by introducing fake Taliban group who is actually supported by black water and there are responsible for all this anarchy in Pakistan. PS they are not fighting America in Afghanistan.

there are many militants group in tribal areas of Pakistan who all using name taliban BUT u can divide them into main TWO stream. one who r fighting is Afghanistan and mostly they head office in in waziristan. they are victims of drones attacks. they NEVER did any suicide attack inside Pakistan and they blv its unislamic.
the other group is fake ppl, they never fight against America in Afghanistan and they are mostly operated in swat. there is huge difference btw ppl of swat and waziristan and they are on opposite corner of KPK geographically. they have never been attacked by drones from America. they are responsible for all accident, suicide attacks inside Pakistan including karachi naval base attack, kamra air base accident, Peshawar, malala attakc etc. Infact they are American funded and supported by black water and one clear cut evidence is that tattoo person killed in latest accident.

REFERENCES.
Zain Ullah Mahsood (taliban leader in waziristan)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUNHVQew-ls

Kernal Imam (ISI official who was teacher of Mulla Omer and taliban in Afghan war)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RLw4kDTAU8
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tigerkhan
12-18-2012, 10:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ~Zaria~
Assalamu-alaikum,

This is an example of some-one who is covered in tattoos and body piercings, and alhamdulillah has turned his life around:
Sister i have been in Peshawar while studying in uni for 4 years. its is almost impossible that there is some revert Muslim with Taliban in swat. they are black water funded ppl and doing totally unislamic things. so how come a revert be with them while every Muslims scholar in area is commending their activities and even some r giving fatwa of kufar against them for killing innocent civilian.
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GuestFellow
12-18-2012, 10:24 PM
They could be militants disguised as Muslims. It's even possible that the tattoo are were made when the bodies were unconscious. Dunno what to make of this.
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Signor
12-19-2012, 08:18 AM
ISLAMABAD: One of the 10 terrorists involved in Saturday night’s brazen attack on Peshawar airport had Western-style “tattoos” on his body, raising questions about the identities of those behind the assault.
Security officials said at least five of the 10 attackers involved appeared to be Uzbek nationals. But counter-terrorism officials are perplexed by the discovery of a demonic “tattoo” on the back of one of the terrorists.
“It’s the first time I have seen tattoos on the bodies of terrorists,” added the official, who has been part of several counter-terrorism operations in the tribal regions.

What does the tattoo show?
The image, though incomplete, appears to be a rendition of a Boris Vallejo sorcery-fantasy character.

In the militant’s case, the tattoo on his back is unfinished. One entire limb, strands of flowing hair and a smaller-headed sorcery-monster appear to be missing.

Vallejo, a Peruvian-born American painter, works almost exclusively in the fantasy and erotica genres. Swords and sorcery gods and monsters are some of his recurrent themes.

Tattoo experts say the image on the militant’s body symbolises evil. “Skulls, in my opinion, are demonic representations, but only in visualisation. They represent strength, rebelliousness and serious drawbacks,” said a Lahore-based tattoo artist.

“Mostly people who get such tattoos want to give out a message that they defy death, those who have seen death very closely, including criminals, gangsters and even rock stars,” he said on condition of anonymity.
About the tattoo on the militant’s body, he said, “It looks 10 to 12 years old. The outlines, curves and shading clearly tell that it has not been made by an expert.”

A Karachi-based tattoo artist concurred. “Mostly, criminals and gangsters get such tattoos made on their bodies,” said the artist who works at a tattoo parlour. He also spoke on condition of anonymity.
He pointed out that he had not seen a single religious person in his 10-year career with tattoos on his body. “It’s unlikely for a religious person to get such tattoos made on his body,” he said.

Religious scholars reaction
The outlawed Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), which claims that it is fighting for the enforcement of Islamic shariah, has already claimed responsibility for the attack.
That is why this aspect has now added significance because according to religious scholars having tattoos on the human body is against the spirit and teachings of Islam.

“You cannot perform religious duties if you have tattoos on your body,” said Prof Khursheed Ahmed, who has written several books on Islam.
Associated with Jamaat-e-Islami, Khursheed maintained that the Peshawar airport attack confirmed “our fears that some foreign hands are carrying out these terrorist attacks in the name of Islam.”
“A practicing Muslim cannot have such images on his body,” he argued.

Mufti Naeem of Karachi’s Jamia Binoria seminary told The Express Tribune that there was no exception to drawing tattoos in Islam as shariah has clearly imposed restrictions on it.
“Yes, you can offer prayers but Islam does not permit drawing tattoos on bodies and has banned it,” he said.
The head of Pakistan Ulema Council Allama Tahir Ashrafi also endorsed the view. “It was astonishing to see the body with a horrible face tattooed on his body. Islam does not allow drawing tattoos,” he added. “This cannot be the body of a Muslim.”

‘True face of TTP’
But a security official pointed out that tattoos on the bodies of terrorists exposed the TTP claims that they were fighting for Islam.
“We know their (TTP) true face. We have raided their dens and even found pornographic films and male potency drugs from there,” he said.

When approached, the director general of the Inter-Services Public Relations, Maj-Gen Asim Saleem Bajwa, said the authorities investigating the airport attack would certainly look into all possibilities.
“But it is premature to draw any conclusion at this point,” Maj- Gen Bajwa told The Express Tribune.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/480719/a...p-conclusions/
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Cabdullahi
12-19-2012, 09:57 AM
Watch out for the 'He was a convert to islam' rhetoric.
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~Zaria~
12-19-2012, 11:10 AM
Assalamu-alaikum,

He could have been a revert.
He could have been raised in a muslim home, but had spent his youth with the wrong crowds/ in gangs and later made amends for it.
He could have been a blackwater militant.


Just based on this picture, we have no way of knowing.

More evidence is required with regards to the true nature of TTP - which will not be found by staring down at the skull and bones tattoo on this deceased mans back......

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Cabdullahi
12-19-2012, 01:01 PM
Reverts and 'made amends' muslims don't cause choas in muslim countries by machine-gunning and blowing up fellow muslims. So we go with your last option - blackwater or a mercenary.

Only Allah knows.

It would be interesting to hear what the American government has to say, i kind of have an idea of what they might say - young guy from texas, converted to islam, a hardline form of islam 2 years ago and decided to wage a holy war on our troops blah blah blah and that explains his tattoo - they wink at each other and then laugh it off behind the scenes ''no tattooed mercenaries next time jimmy that was a close one! Hahahahahahaha"

From the mouths of the same people who brought us:

The christmas tree bomber
The underwear bomber
The shoe bomber
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Perseveranze
12-19-2012, 11:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by SaneFellow
“You cannot perform religious duties if you have tattoos on your body,” said Prof Khursheed Ahmed,
What lol
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GuestFellow
12-20-2012, 11:48 PM
Basically we have no idea who he is.
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