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anonymous
12-25-2012, 12:23 PM
Why men are only allowed 4 wifes ? why not 3 or why not 5 ? . Is there any reason why they are restricted only to 4 ? It is mentioned that we need to do equal justice with them , else marry only one. Suppose if An elite rich person in the millionaire category had the required money and time to support 5 or more wifes , why must he not exceed the limit ?
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Muslim Woman
12-25-2012, 03:41 PM
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format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
Why men are only allowed 4 wifes ?

because Allah says so in holy Quran .


Is there any reason why they are restricted only to 4 ?


Allah did not show any specific reason . There must be a reason and wisdom behind this and Allah Knows Best.


why must he not exceed the limit ?
breaking Allah's laws is a sin , that's why .
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Signor
12-25-2012, 04:04 PM
Bismillah Rahman Raheem
RE: Question - "Islam gives man permission to marry four wives. Why can't a woman have four husbands?

Answer - Al Hamdulilah, was-salat was-salam ala rasoolullah. Allahu 'Alim.
(It is Allah who has All Knowledge).

Rights and Limits

First of all, it is important for us to keep in mind that Islam came to establish two very important fundamentals for human beings:

Rights and Limits.

Everyone and everything has certain rights given to it by the Creator and Sustainer of the universe (Allah). At the same time, each creation has its own limitations established by Allah.


First Right - Allah has the right to be worshipped without making partners from what He has created. Direct worship to Him, alone.


Second Right - Prophet's right to be followed according to his treaching and commandments.


Third Right - Parents rights to be honored and cared for, with special emphasis on the mother first.


Fourth Right - Wives and Husbands have rights on each other.

Conditions 1,400 Years Ago

Now let us do some basic research here. We begin by looking into the condition of the women in various societies at the time 1,400 years ago when Allah revealed the Quran to Muhammad, peace be upon him.
Pagan Arabs - Burying Girls Alive

During that time the pagan Arab men used to bury their newborn daughters alive in the sand, out of shame for having something so low and disgusting like a girl instead of a son. Women were treated horribly and with utter disgust.
Men could marry as many as they liked and very often they owned women like cattle or sheep. There were no laws to protect the women and they had no rights at all.

Christians - Arguing If Women Had Souls

Christians at that time were holding council meetings to determine whether or not a woman even had a soul. The church blamed "Eve" the mother of all humans after Adam, peace be upon him, for the "original sin" and ****ed her and her seed for what she had done.
Priests - Best Men - Forbidden Marriage - To Any Women

Priests, bishops, cardnels and even the Pope are the very best of the Catholic men within the church. Yet the church still forbids their clergymen the chance for marriage and families. This unnatural situation has caused very serious ramifications throughout the society around the world.
Nuns - Best Women - No Marriage - No Children

Nuns are the very best of the Catholic women. They cover themselves in proper attire much the same way as the Muslim women. Yet, they are never allowed to marry or have children throughout their lives. This unnatural condition has caused untold number of disgraceful and disgusting practices within the very church itself.
If Only Bad People Have Children - What About Tomorrow?

We must ask the question, "If the very best of the men and the very best of the women are not allowed to marry or have children - does this mean only the worst of the people are the ones allowed to reproduce and populate the world?" - And where will that leave us tomorrow?
Jews - Blame Women and Curse Women

The Jews blamed women for the "original sin" and as such they were treated with disgust. A woman's monthly cycle was considered by the Old Testament of the Bible to be a "curse from God" for her inequities. Her child bearing pains were also a 'punishment from God' for her bringing man down from heaven.

Islam - No Blame On Women For Evil

Islam does not blame Eve for Adam's sin. Each of them accepted their own mistake and repented to Allah, and asked Allah to forgive them and Allah did forgive them.
Now before going any further, please read surah An Nisa (chapter 4 in the Quran) - all the way through, in order to better understand what is actually being said about women, men and marriage.

Read Quran

Now let us think about the verses. Do you believe that Allah Knows what He created and He has revealed the perfect 'deen'? Do you know the condition of the people at the time the order came to restrict the number of wives? (Restricted to be only four)
Now read the verse about having more than one wife, very carefully. [4:3]
What does it say? And what do you understand from it?
Now read the ayah (verse) that forbids men to marry women who are already married. [4:24].
Now read from An Nisa (Chapter 4) about the role of men and women. [4:34]
Man Supports And Protects Women

Do you understand that one must take on the role of supporter, protector, provider, custodian and servant to the family (man's role)?
Woman Gives Birth - Raises Children


One must take on the role of carrying the child and delivering it and then feeding it and raising it to become a true servant of Allah (woman's role).
Not Equal - But Treated Fairly In Justice

Men and women are not the same nor are they "equal" as some folks would have us believe. Whatever is on one side of an 'equals' sign must be exactly the same as what is on the other side without any difference in value, only in the way that it is expressed. How then could we say that a man, who is unable to conceive or give birth and then breast feed a baby is the equal to a woman who can?
Equal In Faith And Actions

They are equal in their beliefs and good deeds of course. But still they are not the same as each other. Each one must fulfill their role as humans.
Children's Rights Protected

Islam is also very much about rights. Children also have rights in Islam. When a man dies his wealth is left to his family. How could the court know who to give the wealth of a man, if he was one of several husbands to a woman? How would a child know who his father was? No society ever supported the concept of a woman being married to two or more men at the same time.
Women's Right - Best Treatment

Almost every society supported the concept of a man having more than one woman. Yet, they did not limit the number nor did they provide the protection and maintenance that Islam insists on for each one. Islam came to set things straight. Women were given rights. Men were strictly ordered to treat their women with the very best of treatment.
Limit - Number in Marriage

When the verse was revealed the companions of Muhammad, peace be upon him, did not run out with the attitude that they were going to get four wives all of a sudden. Some of them already had much more than that and these men had to divorce their wives, if they had more than four. So this was not an order to go out and get four wives. It was an order to begin limitations. And the first limitation was; No more than four.
Limit - Equal Maintenance and Treatment

Second, the limitation of equal treatment for all of them. How could a man keep more than one wife unless he was exceedingly wealthy and/or exceedingly strong and virile?

Next, the limitation very clearly states; ".. but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them) then only one ..."
Muslims Today - Most Monogamous

Step by step, the men of Islam have come to be known today as the most monogamous of all men on earth (we only have one wife). Check for yourself and see. In the majority of all the Muslim homes on earth, a man gets married once, to one woman and then he stays married to her until the death of either himself or his wife.
Woman's Right To Choose Any Husband She Likes -
Even If He Is Already Married


One very important point that is often overlooked by modern society is the right that Islam gave to the women that it does not give to the man. A man is limited to marry only from the woman who is not already married. Obviously, this provides rights for the children and provides for them from inheritance from the father. But Islam also permits the women to marry a man who is already married to protect her in a society where the number of women outnumbers the population of men. Additionally, the woman has a large selection of men to choose from. In fact, she has the right to choose from any man in the community as long as he does not already have four wives. She also has the opportunity to see how the other wife was being treated and go into a marriage knowing exactly what to expect from her husband. After all, he must treat her in the same way as he is treating the other wife.
Women Need Husbands - Allah Provided the Answer

The prophet, peace be upon him, predicted that in the Last Days the women would outnumber the men to a great extent. Today we are seeing this become a reality all over the world. Allah has already provided for us for this occasion. After all, He is the One who makes it all happen and He already knew that many women would come into Islam in these days. He also knew many of the Muslim men would be killed or die at an early age, just as it is happening these days. These women all need husbands. Allah has given us the solution to all of life's problems.
Women's Right to Vote - 1,400 Years Ago

We might add that Islam also gave the women full status as citizens over 1,400 years ago by giving her to right to speak and vote the same as anyone else. American women had to take their cause to the streets with "Women's Suffrage" and were not granted the right to vote until just ninety years ago.
Women Keep Their Identity - And Their Names

Additionally, Islam protected women's rights to keep their identity and they were not considered property of some man. As such, they were no longer forced to change their last names to be that of their husbands. This is still the practice of Muslim women today just as it was fourteen hundred years ago.
Women Keep Their Property And Earnings - Men Must Share

Yet, at the same time the western society is so concerned about the way Islam demands that a couple be married, the man actually must work instead of the woman; the woman owns her own property without giving anything for the support of the house or the child; a child has the right to his or her own mother raising them instead of a baby sitter or day care; father must support his children; divorce is hated; and marriage is sanctified.
West Can't Tolerate Man And Woman - In Marriage

It is strange isn't it, a society like America, has no problem accepting sex without marriage; homosexuality; same sex marriages; sex without responsibility; children without fathers; and divorces are more common place than the measles or chicken pox. Yet, there is no tolerance for marriage between a man and a woman if it is not on their terms.
What Needs to Be Re-evaluated?

Compare the two for yourself and see which one needs correction.
We will be waiting to hear from you. May Allah Bless you all and increase you in all that is good, ameen.

Jazakumallahu khairan was salam alaykum,

Yusuf Estes
National Muslim Chaplain

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*charisma*
12-27-2012, 05:49 PM
Assalamu Alaikum

I'll begin by saying that 4 is what Allah has allowed, and allahu a'lem the reason, does it really matter though?

I think you have to realize that what you are asking is an exception to most men. Most men are not rich to the extent that they would be able to support one wife plus children, let alone more than one wife plus children. Also, it is really impossible to be fair with all of them when it comes to time. Women generally tend to want attention all the time, children need their father in their life as well. Is it possible for the husband to put his emotional attachment or even sexual attachment on the side and give all his wives a just amount of time, despite the possibility that he may enjoy the company of one over the others? Think about it. And of course money is not the issue here of whether he could support them or not, it's more so about his character, manners, and deen. I would assume a man with a righteous iman, would fear having more than one wife because Allah would punish him accordingly if he failed to fulfill the rights of his family.

fi aman allah
wa'alaikum asalaam
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tigerkhan
12-30-2012, 07:25 PM
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if 5 were allowed we may say y not 6, if 6 then we ask y not 7...so its just whisper of shaitan. Allah SWT is one with wisdon (Al Hakim) and many times we cant understand wisdom behind his commandments and we need not to. bcz Muslim need submission and obeying not the philosophy of commandment. if u think in that way then there is no limit, y we pray '5' times, y we fast for only 1 month, why is zakat 2.5%..
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IbnAbdulHakim
12-30-2012, 08:02 PM
interesting question bro.


i would just leave it though to be honest.


i dont think it matters - doesnt change an iota when it comes to faith
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Ali_008
12-30-2012, 10:12 PM
Allahu alam the reason behind limiting the number to 4. I'll give you a reason from my own logic. Don't take it as a fact, or a fatwa, it is just my opinion of the number 4. When a man has multiple wives, he has to divide time equally between them. Islam doesn't allow man and wife to stay away from each other for long. Umar (RadhiAllahu Anhu) passed a law during his caliphate which restricted the time spent by soldiers away from home to 4 months. This was done so that neither the soldiers nor their wives fall into sin due to prolonged separation from each other.

Coming back to the question. Let's say if a man has 4 wives then you have to see how he can divide the time between them. He also has to divide nights between them. It is not recommended for a Muslim to sleep with multiple wives at the same time. Thus, if a man has 4 wives, each of the wives get to spend the night with him once in 4 days. Thus, each wife gets to have the husband all to herself twice in a week, almost. Similarly, if you extend it to a month. All months have definite 4 weeks which would give each wife a guaranteed 7 days (1 entire week) with the husband. Similarly, the Islamic calendar has 354-355 days, 88 days per year with each wife. If you look at it in months then 3 months per wife.

This is just my opinion. The symmetry which can be offered till 4 is much easier and relaxed in comparison to more than 4. If 5 wives were allowed, then each wife would not be able to spend even an entire week per month with the husband as the days would be reduced to 6 in a 30 day month.

The statistics I've given above are for the extreme cases in which there are the MAX. FOUR wives. If wives are lesser then more time for each of them.:D
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Insaanah
12-30-2012, 10:33 PM
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format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
Suppose if An elite rich person in the millionaire category had the required money and time to support 5 or more wifes , why must he not exceed the limit ?
The below hadeeth will help to illustrate why, even if not directly related. The people mentioned in the hadeeth below were going to to exceed limits:

حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدُ بْنُ أَبِي مَرْيَمَ، أَخْبَرَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ، أَخْبَرَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ أَبِي حُمَيْدٍ الطَّوِيلُ، أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ أَنَسَ بْنَ مَالِكٍ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ يَقُولُ جَاءَ ثَلاَثَةُ رَهْطٍ إِلَى بُيُوتِ أَزْوَاجِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَسْأَلُونَ عَنْ عِبَادَةِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَلَمَّا أُخْبِرُوا كَأَنَّهُمْ تَقَالُّوهَا فَقَالُوا وَأَيْنَ نَحْنُ مِنَ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَدْ غُفِرَ لَهُ مَا تَقَدَّمَ مِنْ ذَنْبِهِ وَمَا تَأَخَّرَ‏.‏ قَالَ أَحَدُهُمْ أَمَّا أَنَا فَإِنِّي أُصَلِّي اللَّيْلَ أَبَدًا‏.‏ وَقَالَ آخَرُ أَنَا أَصُومُ الدَّهْرَ وَلاَ أُفْطِرُ‏.‏ وَقَالَ آخَرُ أَنَا أَعْتَزِلُ النِّسَاءَ فَلاَ أَتَزَوَّجُ أَبَدًا‏.‏ فَجَاءَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ ‏"‏ أَنْتُمُ الَّذِينَ قُلْتُمْ كَذَا وَكَذَا أَمَا وَاللَّهِ إِنِّي لأَخْشَاكُمْ لِلَّهِ وَأَتْقَاكُمْ لَهُ، لَكِنِّي أَصُومُ وَأُفْطِرُ، وَأُصَلِّي وَأَرْقُدُ وَأَتَزَوَّجُ النِّسَاءَ، فَمَنْ رَغِبَ عَنْ سُنَّتِي فَلَيْسَ مِنِّي

Narrated Anas bin Malik :ra::
A group of three men came to the houses of the wives of the Prophet :saws: asking how the Prophet :saws: worshipped (Allah), and when they were informed about that, they considered their worship insufficient and said, "Where are we from the Prophet :saws:, as his past and future sins have been forgiven." Then one of them said, "I will offer the prayer throughout the night forever." The other said, "I will fast throughout the year and will not break my fast." The third said, "I will keep away from the women and will not marry forever." Allah's Apostle :saws: came to them and said, "Are you the same people who said so-and-so? By Allah, I am more submissive to Allah and more afraid of Him than you; yet I fast and break my fast, I do sleep and I also marry women. So whoever turns away my tradition in religion, is not from me (not one of my followers).

Sahih al-Bukhari > Book of Wedlock, Marriage (Nikaah) - كتاب النكاح
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 5063
In-book reference: Book 67, Hadith 1
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 1

http://www.sunnah.com/bukhari/67#1

And Allah knows best in all matters.
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Al-Mufarridun
12-31-2012, 01:50 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by tigerkhan
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if 5 were allowed we may say y not 6, if 6 then we ask y not 7...so its just whisper of shaitan. Allah SWT is one with wisdon (Al Hakim) and many times we cant understand wisdom behind his commandments and we need not to. bcz Muslim need submission and obeying not the philosophy of commandment. if u think in that way then there is no limit, y we pray '5' times, y we fast for only 1 month, why is zakat 2.5%..
Well said bro. Jazakallah Khair.
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ardianto
12-31-2012, 03:50 AM
Fulan goes to ustadz Azhar house and ask him
"Yaa, ustadz, how many wives a Muslim man may have?"
"Four. It's maximum number"
"Why only four?"
"Because this is rule from Allah"
"But, four are not enough for me! I want to have five wives!"
Ustadz Azhar look at him with anger
"Astaghfirullah! Fulan! four wives are not enough??!! ...... get out!!"

Fulan leave ustadz Azhar house and goes to ustadz Hamid house.
"Yaa, ustadz, how many wives a Muslim man may have?"
"Four. It's maximum number"
"Why only four?"
"Because this is rule from Allah"
"But, four are not enough for me! I want to have five wives!"
Ustadz Hamid look at him with anger
"Astaghfirullah! Fulan! you want to change Allah rule??!! ..... get out!!"

Fulan leave ustadz Hamid house. And when he walks on a street he see Mr.Ardianto is sitting on his house terrace. Fulan decide to come to Mr.Ardianto and ask him
"Eh, bro Ardianto, how many wives a Muslim man may have?"
"Four. It's maximum number"
"And how many wives you have?"
"I have only one wife"
"Why only one"
"Because very difficult to handle a family with multiple wives. I'm not able to handle it. So, I married only one woman. For me, one wife is enough".
"One wife is enough for you? Ho, ho, for me four wives are not enough! I want to have five wives!"
Ardianto look at him .... then
"But, Fulan, how can you have five wives if now you are still unmarried and always rejected by every woman you wanted to marry?"
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ژاله
01-01-2013, 04:49 AM
There had to be a number and four happens to be just that number.
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