Syrian Children Being Sold in Europe"

[abo mussaab]

According to AlDiyar newspaper, an international gang started buying children from Syrian families. Families who escaped terrorism in Syria to Greece, Cyprus or Turkey. The children are later taken to Europe where they’re to be sold. Children’s description, photos and blood type were posted on some websites. 100,000 Iraqi kid were sold in the Arab Gulf countries and Qatar. This is where the article ends.
Human trafficking had benefited immensely from the “Humanitarian Wars”, as did Organs Trade. Why else would the blood type be included, are the Syrian children’s organs being harvested?

source
http://www.syrianews.cc/syrian-child...old-in-europe/

THIS IS VERY ALARMING.. "
Syrian Children Being Sold in Europe"
Can Somone Confirm if the news is authentic? ALLAHULMUSTAAN....

[Ahmad H]

That is really disturbing. May Allah punish every single one of these people who are doing this, if they are indeed doing it, and may He ruin them and everyone who knowingly supports them. And may Allah protect these poor little children if they are indeed made part of a huge trafficking scheme.

[Karl]

Sounds like propaganda to me. Probably to get the West involved or used as a pretext to get the West involved.
Westerners don't care if Syrians are getting slaughtered, they are even causing it. And if it is true the parents are selling their children then it is between them and God and not anyone else's business.

[Jedi_Mindset]

This is no propaganda, it actually is true, not only they are traficked to western europe by criminals but also to the kings of qatar, UAE kuwait and jordan to fullfill the desires of these 'princes' and government officials, i am talking mainly about girls now.

May Allah save the people of syria from the tribulation that has been fallen upon them. ameen

Hey there! Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.

When you create an account, you can participate in the discussions and share your thoughts. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and make new friends.
Sign Up

[Karl]

This is no propaganda, it actually is true, not only they are traficked to western europe by criminals but also to the kings of qatar, UAE kuwait and jordan to fullfill the desires of these 'princes' and government officials, i am talking mainly about girls now.

May Allah save the people of syria from the tribulation that has been fallen upon them. ameen

Saved from being slaughtered in Syria to live in affluent Western Europe or live in luxury with kings and princes and rich officials doesn't sound too bad to me. I remember a few years ago when the metal band called Iron Maiden was touring in China. A reporter told them that a Chinese woman sold her daughter to buy a ticket to see the show, the band members laughed and said it was well worth it as it was a good show. So in comparison these girls are much better off! What about the males in Syria, they are fighting and dying defending their country from Zionist backed rebels.

[Jedi_Mindset]

Saved from being slaughtered in Syria to live in affluent Western Europe or live in luxury with kings and princes and rich officials doesn't sound too bad to me. I remember a few years ago when the metal band called Iron Maiden was touring in China. A reporter told them that a Chinese woman sold her daughter to buy a ticket to see the show, the band members laughed and said it was well worth it as it was a good show. So in comparison these girls are much better off! What about the males in Syria, they are fighting and dying defending their country from Zionist backed rebels.

They mostly end up in prostutition ;) You can find some articles about it on the internet. Both mainstream and alternative sources.

[Scimitar]

Saved from being slaughtered in Syria to live in affluent Western Europe or live in luxury with kings and princes and rich officials doesn't sound too bad to me. I remember a few years ago when the metal band called Iron Maiden was touring in China. A reporter told them that a Chinese woman sold her daughter to buy a ticket to see the show, the band members laughed and said it was well worth it as it was a good show. So in comparison these girls are much better off! What about the males in Syria, they are fighting and dying defending their country from Zionist backed rebels.

Sounds absolutely horrendous to me.

They could have lived and died with their families - but no, they would be sold into sexual slavery- amongst riches and the modernity and distractions of life in the west. Against their will.

How is that a good thing? It's taking them away from their Islam.

Scimi

[Karl]

Sounds absolutely horrendous to me.

They could have lived and died with their families - but no, they would be sold into sexual slavery- amongst riches and the modernity and distractions of life in the west. Against their will.

How is that a good thing? It's taking them away from their Islam.

Scimi

How do you know these ones are Muslims? Muslims would more likely keep them at home to join in the Jihad.
At the end of the day regardless of everyones different sensibilities on the issue it is a private domestic matter strictly to be determined by parental prerogative and can only be judged by God. As Jesus said “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? “
(Mat 7:1-3)

[Scimitar]

ok, it's taking them away from their islam and christianity :)

You see, it changed nothing.

Scimi

[abo mussaab]

Syria's women refugees fear sham marriages and rape<span id="eow-title" class="watch-title long-title yt-uix-expander-head" dir="ltr" title="Syria's women refugees fear sham marriages and rape" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-size: 0.9em; background-color: transparent; cursor: pointer; -webkit-user-select: auto; letter-spacing: -0.05em;">

[abo mussaab]

[Futuwwa]

Sounds like propaganda to me. Probably to get the West involved or used as a pretext to get the West involved.
Westerners don't care if Syrians are getting slaughtered, they are even causing it. And if it is true the parents are selling their children then it is between them and God and not anyone else's business.

On the contrary, it is the business of the state (Islamic or not) to protect its citizens. That business doesn't stop simply because the one being protected against is a parent.

[Karl]

On the contrary, it is the business of the state (Islamic or not) to protect its citizens. That business doesn't stop simply because the one being protected against is a parent.

Well I ain't a Marxist or Socialist or whatever state worshipper you like. The parents will be judged come Judgement Day. Do you know the truth about it? Do you know the parents, the situation? Everyone gets all self righteous and judgemental and points the finger, but what do they know? They are sheep that run and hate and persecute to the will of the liars and deceivers. The West orchestrates genocide in the middle East and what is all the shock horror in the media? Some parents sell their offspring or their are some child marriages happening.

How I raise my offspring is totally my business and if anyone interferes they will die.

[Futuwwa]

The parents will be judged come Judgement Day.

And so will everyone. Does that mean we should abolish criminal justice? ^o)

[Karl]

And so will everyone. Does that mean we should abolish criminal justice? ^o)

To begin with, Syria barely HAS "criminal justice", given that the place is in a state of WAR. Secondly, what is the so-called "crime" you are talking about?

As far as I'm concerned regarding "criminal justice" generally speaking, as a staunch parental sovereigntist and an anti-statist I am fiercely opposed to state interference in my domestic affairs. I will defend my parental sovereignty to the death if I really have to. "Criminal justice" at MOST should only be allowed to get involved in matters that are NON domestic. An outsider (PARTICULARLY if they aren't even of my own race) has no more natural right to judge how I raise my own offspring and interfere in my domestic affarirs as a dog or cat does.

[Futuwwa]

To begin with, Syria barely HAS "criminal justice", given that the place is in a state of WAR. Secondly, what is the so-called "crime" you are talking about?

Well, selling another person is to assert ownership over that person in the first place, which is coercion, which is a crime.

As far as I'm concerned regarding "criminal justice" generally speaking, as a staunch parental sovereigntist and an anti-statist I am fiercely opposed to state interference in my domestic affairs. I will defend my parental sovereignty to the death if I really have to. "Criminal justice" at MOST should only be allowed to get involved in matters that are NON domestic. An outsider (PARTICULARLY if they aren't even of my own race) has no more natural right to judge how I raise my own offspring and interfere in my domestic affarirs as a dog or cat does.

Guess how much we care about your "parental sovereignty", me and my Islamo-Communist giant missile parade :p

[Karl]

Well, selling another person is to assert ownership over that person in the first place, which is coercion, which is a crime.

A crime? Where? How do you know that I live somewhere where your busybodying collectivist totalitarianism exists? As far as I'm concerned, my offspring are my chattels by virtue of the fact that they are of my own flesh and blood, not yours. They and me have absolutely nothing to do with you and your commie buddies. You therefore don't have rightful say in ANY of my domestic business. Just learn to get over it and don't have a mental meltdown!

Guess how much we care about your "parental sovereignty", me and my Islamo-Communist giant missile parade :p

I simply don't care what you think. As I said before, if you and your leftist ilk want to put me to the test you definitely KNOW what to receive. You and your kind have been well warned.

[sister herb]

Did I understand now right (or wrong); is it just some kind of leftist way to think if someone says that selling another person (like your own child) is a crime? ^o)

[Futuwwa]

As far as I'm concerned, my offspring are my chattels by virtue of the fact that they are of my own flesh and blood, not yours.

And why exactly does that follow? Do you have any ayat from the Quran to back that up? Just curious.

[Karl]

And why exactly does that follow? Do you have any ayat from the Quran to back that up? Just curious.

Under Shafi Islam the wife and offspring are the property of the husband. No one can interfere in my domestic affairs. Blaspheming communists can be beheaded at the door. Go take your blasphemous picture to the Mujahideen and see how long you live.

[IslamicRevival]

Secondly, what is the so-called "crime" you are talking about?

Human trafficking. It is a vile, disgusting abhorent crime under Secular, and most importantly Sharia Law.

Under Shafi Islam the wife and offspring are the property of the husband.

No one owns another human being the way you are interpreting it. Yes the husband has to have a certain measure of control over Family but it has to be within Islamic guidelines, Women and children have rights too and no one has the authority to take that away from them.

Watch this and reflect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc8lXfAZ448

[Karl]

Human trafficking. It is a vile, disgusting abhorent crime under Secular, and most importantly Sharia Law.

If that IS what Sharia Law stands for then perhaps I have to be glad that I don't choose to live in Sharia jurisdiction. As a fierce parental sovereigntist I regard it my exclusive right to raise my own offspring AS I SEE FIT. I simply would never tolerate any outsider (ESPECIALLY those that are not even of my own race) intruding in my domestic affairs!! Such vermin DIE if they ever want to try.:raging: If I ever want to sell my offspring I WILL, and YOU or any OTHER busybody most certainly won't dare stop me. It is NOT your business! For your information, I don't happen to be interested in selling my offspring ANYWAY. I marry off my daughters very young so there's no actual NEED for me to get rid of them. But my point is that it is nonetheless my RIGHT AS A FATHER to sell my offspring if I so hypothetically choose.

Furthermore "trafficking" is often what the Zionist West propaganda machine dysphemistically refers to as what is otherwise known as simply "asking for a reverse dowry".

No one owns another human being the way you are interpreting it. Yes the husband has to have a certain measure of control over Family but it has to be within Islamic guidelines, Women and children have rights too and no one has the authority to take that away from them.

Wrong. MY OFFSPRING ARE MY PROPERTY. I OWN THEM. YOU have no authority over the domestic affairs of my race. GET OVER IT AND GO AWAY.

[sister herb]

I marry off my daughters very young so there's no actual NEED for me to get rid of them.

Salam alaykum

Does this means that it is you and only you who decides who your daughters will marry? Doesn´t islam teach that woman has right to decide by herself who she will marry and who she doesn´t?

^o)

What if your daughter decides that she doesn´t marry when she is very young or not marry at all? But she has to do what you want because she is your property?

[Karl]

Salam alaykum

Does this means that it is you and only you who decides who your daughters will marry? Doesn´t islam teach that woman has right to decide by herself who she will marry and who she doesn´t?

I allow my daughters to express what they think. You're right that Islam advises this too. But it also states that ULTIMATELY the decision can be overridden by the father. I have never felt the need to actually do that.

What if your daughter decides that she doesn´t marry when she is very young or not marry at all? But she has to do what you want because she is your property?

I have the right to force her to marry if I want, because yes she is my chattel. I do however tend to give my daughters a choice not to marry, yes, but if they choose not to marry very young they get disowned by me and are considered a disgrace to the family. It hasn't happened yet because they all liked the idea of marrying very young (what the totalitarian Zionists and Marxists call "under age").

[sister herb]

she is my chattel

Salam alaykum


All respect to your way to believe but...

A chattel? A human being is a chattel? Is this how islam teach to think? So when you was a child you was a chattel of your father, right?

[Karl]

Salam alaykum


All respect to your way to believe but...

A chattel? A human being is a chattel? Is this how islam teach to think? So when you was a child you was a chattel of your father, right?

Walaikum salam. Yes, I deem my offspring to be my chattel. They become free agents when I bestow independence upon them. But while they are my chattels they remain completely under my authority and no outsiders have even the slightest say whatsoever, just as I have no legitimate say in how they raise THEIR offspring. It is simply none of my business. Yes, I was the chattel of my father too when I was young and I had no issues with that, and I still have no issues with it now. I thought that was completely natural that I was under the sole authority of my father and that no outsider had any rightful say in matters to do with how my father decided to raise me. And my family intends to forever continue that tradition. The arrogant and busybodying Marxist and Zionist imperialists don't like it but I just don't care about what they think. They can go to hell.

[sister herb]

Salam alaykum

Only what I have to say to you is that may Allah guide you to understand islam as well than it is possible.

[Futuwwa]

And now for more ---:

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No previously-married woman should be married off without being consulted, and no virgin should be married off without asking her permission.” They said: “O Messenger of Allaah, what is her permission?” He said: “If she remains silent.” Sahih al-Bukhari #4843, Sahih Muslim #1419.

[Muhammad]

:salamext:

Let us please avoid attaching our own ideas onto Islamic Law and tarnishing it with inappropriate labels.

If that IS what Sharia Law stands for then perhaps I have to be glad that I don't choose to live in Sharia jurisdiction. As a fierce parental sovereigntist I regard it my exclusive right to raise my own offspring AS I SEE FIT. I simply would never tolerate any outsider (ESPECIALLY those that are not even of my own race) intruding in my domestic affairs!!

Brother, Muslims believe that Shariah Law has been divinely revealed in the Qur'an and the Sunnah, so we cannot choose to disregard any part of it. Whatever your personal views, it is not your right to do as you wish. Allaah :swt: is our Creator and as Muslims we have submitted to His guidance, which covers all aspects of life, including family life. Our family is a responsibility and a trust from Allaah :swt:, and we will be asked about how we discharged our responsibilities. Also, once again, you made a comment that indicates a degree of racism. You should be aware from previous discussions that racism has no place in Islam. Please spend time learning about these aspects of Islam before posting about them on forums.

I am closing this thread to prevent further posts showing disregard for Islamic teachings.