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YusufNoor
03-29-2013, 05:28 PM
BismiAllah ar Rahman ar Raheem,

Premise: the according to “ the author of” the Gospel “later attributed to” Mark , whomever Joseph of Arimathea took of the “cross”, DID NOT, by Jewish reckoning fulfill the “sign of Jonas” as stated by “the authors of” the Gospels “later attributed to” Matthew and Luke.

Background: sign of Jonah

Matthew 12: The Sign of Jonah
38 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.”
39 He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...12&version=NIV

The Demand for a Sign
Matthew 16: 1 The Pharisees and Sadducees came to Jesus and tested him by asking him to show them a sign from heaven.
2 He replied, “When evening comes, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,’ 3 and in the morning, ‘Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times.[a] 4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.” Jesus then left them and went away.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...16&version=NIV

Luke 28: The Sign of Jonah
29 As the crowds increased, Jesus said, “This is a wicked generation. It asks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah. 30 For as Jonah was a sign to the Ninevites, so also will the Son of Man be to this generation. 31 The Queen of the South will rise at the judgment with the people of this generation and condemn them, for she came from the ends of the earth to listen to Solomon’s wisdom; and now something greater than Solomon is here. 32 The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and now something greater than Jonah is here.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...11&version=NIV

background: a day (Jewish reckoning)

The Beginning
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.


So, according to the authors of the Gospels, later attributed to Matthew and Luke, Jesus emphatically stated that the ONLY sign that the “wicked generation” would get would be that he would be “in the hearth of the earth for 3 days and 3 nights.”

99% of Christians today claim that those “3 days” (because they ignore the bits about the nights) are Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
So, let us see what the author of the Gospel, later attributed to Mark, has to say about this:

Mark 15:42-47 New King James Version (NKJV)
Jesus Buried in Joseph’s Tomb
42 Now when evening had come, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath, 43 Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent council member, who was himself waiting for the kingdom of God, coming and taking courage, went in to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. 44 Pilate marveled that He was already dead; and summoning the centurion, he asked him if He had been dead for some time. 45 So when he found out from the centurion, he granted the body to Joseph. 46 Then he bought fine linen, took Him down, and wrapped Him in the linen. And he laid Him in a tomb which had been hewn out of the rock, and rolled a stone against the door of the tomb. 47 And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses observed where He was laid.
It is with verse 42 that our interest lays. Here are 20 translations:


New International Version (©2011)
It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath). So as evening approached,

New Living Translation (©2007)
This all happened on Friday, the day of preparation, the day before the Sabbath. As evening approached,

English Standard Version (©2001)
And when evening had come, since it was the day of Preparation, that is, the day before the Sabbath,

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
When evening had already come, because it was the preparation day, that is, the day before the Sabbath,

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
When it was already evening, because it was preparation day (that is, the day before the Sabbath),

International Standard Version (©2012)
It was the Day of Preparation, that is, the day before the Sabbath. Since it was already evening,

NET Bible (©2006)
Now when evening had already come, since it was the day of preparation (that is, the day before the Sabbath),

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And when it was Friday evening, which is before the Sabbath,

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
It was Friday evening, before the day of worship,

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And now when the evening was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,

American King James Version
And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,

American Standard Version
And when even was now come, because it was the Preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,

Douay-Rheims Bible
And when evening was now come, (because it was the Parasceve, that is, the day before the sabbath,)

Darby Bible Translation

And when it was already evening, since it was the preparation, that is, the day before a sabbath,

English Revised Version
And when even was now come, because it was the Preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,

Webster's Bible Translation
And now, when the evening was come, (because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath)

Weymouth New Testament
Towards sunset, as it was the Preparation--that is, the day preceding the Sabbath--

World English Bible
When evening had now come, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath,

Young's Literal Translation
And now evening having come, seeing it was the preparation, that is, the fore-sabbath,

http://bible.cc/mark/15-42.htm

All but 3, tell us that it was already evening. Now according to Jewish reckoning, the evening, itself, already signifies a new day, to wit, Friday evening IS Saturday!

A glimpse of a Greek English translation states: “And already evening having arrived”
Right here:


Strong's Transliteration Greek English Morphology
2532 [e]
Kai
Καὶ And Conj

2235 [e]
ēdē
ἤδη already Adv

3798 [e]
opsias
ὀψίας evening Adj-GFS

1096 [e]
genomenēs
γενομένης having arrived, V-APM-GFS

1893 [e]
epei
ἐπεὶ since Conj

1510 [e]
ēn
ἦν it was [the] V-II-3S

3904 [e]
paraskeuē
παρασκευή Preparation, N-NFS

3739 [e]
ho
ὅ that RelPro-NNS

1510 [e]
estin
ἐστιν is V-PI-3S

4315 [e]
prosabbaton
προσάββατον [the day] before Sabbath, N-NNS

OK, that chart didn't copy over, but i highlighted the key phrase, ans you may view it here:
http://biblos.com/mark/15-42.htm



Thus, if we take “the author of Mark” at his word, whoever was buried by Joseph of Arimathea spent a total of ZERO HOURS of Friday in the tomb! The MOST that one could then deduce is that whomever was buried in the tomb, was there for Saturday and MAYBE part of Sunday.
Now, “Mark” is considered to be the earliest Gospel written, y the majority of Biblical scholars, and that it was written sometime between 65 CE and 75 CE. Thus, according to the earliest known “Gospel”, whoever Joseph of Arimathea placed in his tomb DID NOT fulfill the sign of Jonah.

Thank you, you may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.


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Scimitar
03-29-2013, 05:40 PM
I recall that the late Ahmed Deedat did also conclude the same, using the same argument in a lecture :) good stuff bro

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