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islamiconfusion
06-03-2013, 02:53 PM
If a female, never prays, not even Friday prayers, never reads the Holy Quran, doesn't even have ever read it by translation. Has never read the Sahih-al-Bukhari, doesn't wear hijab, follow the trends of fashion n lifestyle of whatever around her, has friends, never gives Zakaat or helps poor(though she claims that she has a very humanitarian heart and feels for the poor), wastes money all the time in eating out, almost every other day. Listens to music the whole day, sometimes Sufi songs and many times romantic songs, sometimes watches porn and masturbates often whenever feels the desire. Has strong sexual desires but doesn't want to get married because she feels that no one is compatible enough with her, no one is like her.
Doesn't follow the religion as it is AT ALL. But, thinks that she is very special, has powers more than Saints and thinks that all the regular religious people(who are simple n follow Islam) don't have those power and pains associated with that power that's why they can follow the Islam and are nowhere near what she is. She thinks that her problems and emotional pain etc are so strong that even all the angels and saints and Prophets including the Holy Prophet is helpless because it is directly connected to God. And she thinks that she is Fannah Fillah(If you know the concept of it in Sufism : Extinction of the self in God), but she even doesn't practise humility, the very first stage of Sufism. She thinks that she is a very special person with strong mind and psychic abilities and can change everything she wants to with her mind power.
Even though, she claims that materialistic n worldly things do not matter to her but her actions tell otherwise. For e.g. if someone compliments her sister or anyone else in the surrounding for anything i.e. beauty, intelligence or success. She gets too emotional and defensive and will say to her sister that, 'IT CANNOT happen that you can be more intelligent or beautiful than me, it is impossible. And if someone is calling you or complimenting you, it is because inside your mind you wish and those rays are transferred to that person and he says this, whereas, I don't have that wish, otherwise it cannot happen that I can be less, it is impossible."

If you ever argue with her about even the Sufi's were so consistent in offering the 5 ritual prayers and meditation and stuff, she says that you wont understand my way etc etc and will get emotional. She thinks she follows Sufism and is a very very very strong Saint or something(even Saints pray n read Quran along with Zikr but she doesn't. She would rather listen to Sufi songs with dancing and stuff than actually pray or do something pious.

What do you think about this girl? Is she really a saint or what's wrong with her? What would you do in a condition if you were someone close to her?
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Abdul Fattah
06-03-2013, 08:58 PM
Aselam aleykum
The truth is you can't ever fully understand what goeson in somebodys mind. Maybe it's pride, maybe she's just confused, maybe she went trough allot of stuff and already does all that she can temporarilly bear, or maybe she's just making excuses for herself and believes in them to. The important question here is: why do you obsess about it so much?
- If it's because you want to help her- then stop trying to "argue" her into following the rules, and just use the universal dawah-argument: http://www.islamicboard.com/dawah/13...-argument.html
- If it's because you want to put her in her place- then don't, focus on your own life.
Either way, you're going about this all the wrong way.
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Ramadan90
06-03-2013, 09:33 PM
"Either way, you're going about this all the wrong way."

^ That is why she posted here. So she knows how to approach this.
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Signor
06-04-2013, 07:38 AM
Following will help Insha Allah

Excerpt From "The Criterion Between Allies of the Merciful & The Allies of the Devil" Written By Ibn Taymiyyah(R.A)

Translated by Salim Abdallah ibn Morgan


"It is obligatory upon the allies of Allah to hold tightly to the Qur'an and the Sunnah, and no one of them is ma'soom i.e. protected against falling into error, such that it is permissible to him or to his followers to follow that which comes into his heart without subjecting it to the test of the Qur'an and the Sunnah. Whoever does not accept this is in no way shape or form among the allies of Allah whom Allah has ordered us to emulate. Such a person is either a kafir (disbeliever) or is engaged in extreme and excessive foolishness and ignorance.

This point is frequently found in the words of the early scholars of Islam:

Abi Sulaiman Ad-Daaraani (2-3rd century) said: Something comes to my heart as does come to people, but I do not accept it except with two witnesses: The Qur'an and the Sunnah."

Abu Qaasim Al-Junaid (3rd century) said: "The knowledge of ours is defined by the Qur'an and the Sunnah. Whoever has not studied the Qur'an and written the hadith is not qualified to speak about this knowledge of ours" In another version, he said: "... should not be taken as an example."

Abu Uthman An-Neesaaboori said: "Whoever gives full authority to the Sunnah over himself in word and deed speaks with wisdom, and whoever gives his own inclinations and understanding full authority over himself in word and deed speaks innovation (bid'a), since Allah has said in His ancient discourse: “And if you obey Him (i.e. Allah), you will attain guidance.”"

Abu Umar ibn Majeed said: "Every intuition (wujd) for which the Qur'an and the Sunnah do not bear witness is complete falsehood."

Many people fall into error in this question. Once they believe that a certain person is an ally of Allah, they believe that everything an ally of Allah days is accepted, and he is above reproach or criticism in everything he says and does, even though some of that may go against the Qur'an and the Sunnah. Thus, they agree with that person, but go against that with which Allah sent His Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam) even though Allah has made it obligatory upon the entire creation to believe in all of the information which he imparted, and to obey him in all orders which he transmitted. Allah made him the criterion between His allies and His enemies, between the people of paradise and the people of the fire, and between those content with Allah's decree and the rebellious. Thus, whoever follows him is one of the allies of Allah and a possessor of taqwa (a concept including piety, faith, and righteous practice and action), and is one of the forces who will be successful, and is one or His righteous servants. On the other hand, whoever does not follow the Prophet is one of the enemies of Allah those in loss, the criminals. His opposition and disobedience of the Prophet will push him first of all into innovations (bid'a) and incorrect practice and, in the long run into disbelief (kufr) and hypocrisy (nifaaq). "
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) who said:

The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “Verily Allah ta’ala has said: ‘Whosoever shows enmity to a wali (friend) of Mine, then I have declared war against him. And My servant does not draw near to Me with anything more loved to Me than the religious duties I have obligated upon him. And My servant continues to draw near to me with nafil (supererogatory) deeds until I Love him. When I Love him, I am his hearing with which he hears, and his sight with which he sees, and his hand with which he strikes, and his foot with which he walks. Were he to ask [something] of Me, I would surely give it to him; and were he to seek refuge with Me, I would surely grant him refuge.’ ” It was related by al-Bukhari.

Allah says: أَلَا إِنَّ أَوْلِيَاءَ اللَّهِ لَا خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلَا هُمْ يَحْزَنُونَ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَكَانُوا يَتَّقُونَ
Unquestionably, [for] the allies of Allah there will be no fear concerning them, nor will they grieve
Those who believed and were fearing Allah
[10:62-63]

Since the girl is doing opposite to what she "belives" in,it is important to know devil's deception:

The Awliya' (Friends) of Shaytan (Satan)
by Shaykh Abû Bakr Jâbir al-Jaza'iry


The Muslim believes that Shaytan has evil companions that are overpowered by him and consequently forget about their Lord. He seduced them to evil, encouraging them to falsehood, deafening them from hearing the truth, blinding them from seeing the proofs, so that they are subordinate to him, obeying his commands. He misled them to mischief by making it attractive to them, until they consider evil to be good and good to be bad. Thus, they became enemies and opponents to the Awliya' of Allah, and warriors against them. The Awliya' of Allah take Allah the Almighty as their Supporter, while the Awliya' of Shaytan chose to be the opponents of Allah. The Awliya' of Allah love Him and strive hard to please Him, while the Awliya' of Shaytan strive to displease Allah. May the curse and anger of Allah befall them. Nevertheless, amazing feats may occur by their hands, such as; flying in the sky, or walking on water. Such feats are merely a means by which Allah facilitates the downfall of His enemies, or some form of assistance by Shaytan for his supporter. The following are some evidences for this topic:
1. The statements of Allah the Almighty, such as:

"But as for those who disbelieve, their Awliya' (supporters and helpers) are false deities, they bring them out from light into darkness. Those are the dwellers of the Fire, and they will abide therein forever ." (2:257)


And:

"And certainly, the Shayatin (devils) do inspire their friends (from mankind) to dispute with you, and if you obey them, then you would indeed be polytheists ." (6:121)


And:

"And on the Day when He will gather them (all) together (and say): "O you assembly of jinn! Many did you mislead of men," and their Awliya' (friends and helpers) amongst men will say: "Our Lord! We benefited one from the other, but now we have reached our appointed term which You did appoint for us." He will say: "The Fire be your dwelling place, you will dwell therein forever, except as Allah may will."" (6:128)



“And whosoever turns away blindly from the remembrance of the Most Gracious (Allah), We appoint for him a Shaytan to be a companion to him. And verily, they (Satans) hinder them from the path (of Allah), but they think that they are guided aright!) (43:36-37)”



And:

“Verily, We made the Shayatin, Awliya' (protectors) for those who believe not.” (7:27)


And:

“Surely, they took the Shayatin as Awliya' instead of Allah, and think that they are guided.” (7:30)


And:

“And We have assigned for them (devils) intimate companions (in this world), who have made fair-seeming to them, what was before them and what was behind them.” (41:25)


And:

"And (remember) when We said to the angels: "Prostrate yourselves unto Adam." So they prostrated themselves except Iblis (Satan). He was one of the jinn; he disobeyed the command of his Lord. Will you then take him and his offspring as protectors and helpers rather than Me while they are enemies to you?" (18:50)


2. The statements of the Messenger of Allah (SAW) such as: When the Messenger of Allah (SAW) saw a shooting star, he asked his Companions:

"What would you say about this in Jahiliyyah (the pre-Islamic era)?)"



"We used to say: This is a precursor of a great person's birth or death.'"


They replied. The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said:

"If does not fall for the birth or the death of anyone. But when our Lord the Blessed and Most Exalted decrees a matter, the Throne bearers glorify Him, upon hearing them, the inhabitants of the heaven after them glorify Him, then those who come after them until it reaches this heaven. Then, the inhabitants of heaven ask the bearers of the Throne: 'What did our Lord say?' So the bearers of the Throne tell them. The inhabitants of every heaven inquire about the news until it reaches the inhabitants of the lower heaven. Then the devils snatch the news; thus, these are shot at them. Then, the devils cast the news to their companions. If the companions convey the news as it reached them, it would be right; but they add to it." (Muslim, Ahmad and others)


When the Messenger of Allah (SAW) was asked about the fortunetellers, he said: "They are nothing (they know nothing of the unseen)." They said: "What they tell us sometimes comes true." The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said:

"The jinn snatches the right word then recites it into the ear of his ally. They add one hundred lies to it." (Al-Bukhari)


He (SAW) also said:

"There is none of you but he has an assigned companion." (Muslim)


And:

"Shaytan circulates in the veins of the son of Adam like blood, so restrict its ducts by fasting." (Agreed upon with different wording)


3. Hundreds of thousands of humans have witnessed strange Satanic circumstances surrounding the Awliya' of Shaytan in every time and place. For some, Shaytan would bring him different types of food and drink, fulfill some sort of need he had, inform him of some secret matters of the unseen, or prevent the sword from penetrating him. For some, Shaytan comes to him in the form of a righteous man from whom he seeks some benefit. Then he changes, misleading him and bringing him to acts of Shirk and disobedience. Of them are those that are carried to a far away land, or delivered persons or things from distant places etc.

The real cause for such devilish actions are due to the wickedness of the human soul which results from his addiction to evil deeds, corruption, disbelief, and the acts of disobedience, until the human reaches a level of evil that unites him with the Satanic souls. Then the allegiance between himself and the devils is complete. They give information to each other, serving each other in any way possible. So on the Day of Judgment it will be said to them:

"O you assembly of jinn! Many did you mislead of men ." (6:128)


The companions of the jinns will say:

"Our Lord! We benefited one from the other.." (6:128)


The difference between the phenomenon committed by the Awliya' of Allah and devilish feats, is apparent by the behavior and condition of the one involved. He will be either a person of belief and piety who adheres to the Law of Allah, and this phenomenon is a means of honor from Allah. Or, he will be a wicked, evil, impious person, in which case it is a means of drawing himself or his Satanic helpers into their own destruction.


Extracted from “Minhaj al Muslim” published by Dar as Salam
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Signor
06-04-2013, 07:38 AM
To read further:

http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/Criterion.pdf
http://www.islamhouse.com/250726/en/...albees_Iblees)
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GuestFellow
06-04-2013, 04:29 PM
I think she needs help. Someone should talk to her.
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Paprika
02-05-2015, 07:55 AM
needs some serious panel beating
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Abdullahh
02-06-2015, 06:20 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by islamiconfusion
What would you do in a condition if you were someone close to her?
I'd run.
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BeTheChange
02-06-2015, 10:12 PM
Thinking your better than another human being is a sign of EGO, ARROGRANCE & PRIDE and everyone knows the very popular hadith which states if a Muslim has an atom of pride in his/her heart he/she will not enter jannah so i would advise this individual to re-think his social status in society and to think nothing of himself. Allah swa is the ultimate judge not our limited thoughts & views of ourselves.

To not pray, to not read quraan, to listen to music etc etc is all haraam as you probably know. It's best to study islam once again because this individual hasn't fully grasped the true and real Islam.

All the best
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M.I.A.
02-07-2015, 06:48 PM
From what I have seen the world works in the opposite way to Islam.

People would call you generous if only because they robbed you.

And I can't think of any worldly concept were losing today meant winning tomorrow...

Or any person that would allow it.

People fight tooth and nail to keep what is there's.. With tongue and hand and mind.

And if you did not and submitted, then why find her offensive?

People very rarely plan badly for themselves.

By the one in who's hands my life is in right?

I still find it hard to accept any voice would give me tomorrow when they only gave themselves today.

Six feet under in a six by two.

...funny thing is you should tell her how you feel in person, see what answer you get
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