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aflawedbeing
07-25-2013, 09:54 AM
Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi rajioon. =[

May Allah swt grant them the highest of Jannah. Ameen.

2 adults, 1 child dead after multi-car crash in Arlington


ARLINGTON, Texas - A husband who had spent time praying to honor the holy season of Ramadan was killed along with his wife and baby girl in a crash with an alleged drunk driver early Wednesday on Interstate 30 in Arlington.


The accident happened around 2:20 a.m. in the eastbound lanes of the interstate between East Chase Parkway and Fielder Road.


Department of Public Safety investigators believe 41-year-old Benjamon Stewart was driving his truck while intoxicated and rear-ended a family in a Toyota Camry.


The Camry stalled in the middle lane of the highway and was struck again by another pickup truck.


Najib Intidam, 40, in the Camry died at the scene. His wife Hanane and infant girl were taken to a local hospital where they also died.


DPS said Stewart tried to drive away, but his truck was too damaged.


He fled on foot, but troopers used a thermal camera to find him in a nearby wooded area.


He was arrested and charged with intoxication manslaughter and failure to stop and render aid.


The victims' family members say Najib came from Morocco several years ago, but his wife and young daughter arrived in the United States in the last few months.


"They were great people," Manal Belkhoumani, the victims' cousin. "I just hope that people understand that drinking and driving isn't a good thing to be doing because it brings sorrow upon families that are lost."


Read more: http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/229184...#ixzz2a37LrHzp

They were headed to the Masjid for Suhur, as detailed in this tweet by Br. Omar Usman:



SubhanAllah. He fled? He was in the wrong from the very beginning and was such a wuss, that he fled?
This is probably the part (obviously) bar drinking/drink driving in the first place, that makes this article all the harder to swallow, for me.



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AabiruSabeel
07-25-2013, 10:36 AM
Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi Raji'oon. May Allah forgive them and grant them Jannatul Firdaus.
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Hulk
07-25-2013, 11:58 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by ibṉĀdam
Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi Raji'oon. May Allah forgive them and grant them Jannatul Firdaus.
Amin ya rabbal alamin
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Muhammad
07-25-2013, 01:25 PM
That is sad news, innaa lillahi wa innaa ilayhi raji'oon. May Allaah :swt: have mercy upon the family and accept all of their good deeds and make them amongst the forgiven in this blessed month, Aameen.
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ابن آل مرة
07-25-2013, 01:40 PM
as-salam 'alaikum,

I knew the brother and was shocked when I heard the news last night before salat al-'isha`a. May Allah have mercy on him and his family and enter them into Jannat al-Firdaus together without reckoning.

The scumbag that hit them from behind had previous DUI offence. These kind of animals should be put to sleep before they kill more innocent people. I doubt he'll get more than 10 years. May the curse of Allah be upon him and likes of him. Ameeen.

Correction in the title: They weren't on the way to the masjid. They prayed taraweeh and stopped by to get some grocery and were heading home.
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Iceee
07-25-2013, 01:57 PM
Inna lillah wa inna ilayhi raji’oon…
May Allah forgive them, raise their ranks, exalt their status, and grant them Jannah during this blessed month of Ramadan.
May Allah make their
graves a vast place, enlighten them, and make it one of the gardens of Paradise!

Friends: Family killed in Arlington crash were going home from a Mosque


Family and friends of the parents and infant killed in a three-car crash in Arlington Wednesday morning say the three had been praying late at night at a mosque and were on their way home, KXAS-TV (Channel 5) reports.
Relatives identified the three as Najib Intidam, of Arlington; his wife, Hanane; and their 11-month-old daughter, Nour el Houda. They were observing Ramadan late Tuesday night and decided to stop at a store on their way home.
The three victims were traveling east in their small car on I-30 around 2:20 a.m. when the 41-year-old suspect's pickup slammed into the back of their car, police spokesman Christopher Cook said. That collision left their car disabled in the center lane of the highway between Eastchase Parkway and Fielder Road. Shortly after the first crash, a second pickup hauling a flatbed trailer slammed into the car, which was pushed onto the inside shoulder.
Police say the driver who caused the first crash, Benjamon Stewart of Arlington, fled and faces three counts of intoxication manslaughter and a charge of failing to stop and render aid.
Najib Intidam's nephew, Amir Belkhoumani told NBC5 that his uncle had moved to Texas in 2005 and his wife moved in the past few months from Morocco.
"Everything was new, and [he was] excited about everything," Belkhoumani, 14, said about his uncle. "He was excited for his new life. But I guess it was his time to go."

Published: 25 July 2013 07:55 AM

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ardianto
07-25-2013, 02:00 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muhammad
That is sad news, innaa lillahi wa innaa ilayhi raji'oon. May Allaah :swt: have mercy upon the family and accept all of their good deeds and make them amongst the forgiven in this blessed month, Aameen.
Amin Ya Rabbal Alamin.
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glo
07-25-2013, 02:00 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muhammad
That is sad news, innaa lillahi wa innaa ilayhi raji'oon. May Allaah :swt: have mercy upon the family, Aameen.
format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmed M.
as-salam 'alaikum,
The scumbag that hit them from behind had previous DUI offence. These kind of animals should be put to sleep before they kill more innocent people. I doubt he'll get more than 10 years. May the curse of Allah be upon him and likes of him. Ameeen.
That's such tragic news! It must be devastating for all who knew this young family. :cry:

I wonder though whether Allah in his great mercy would show forgiveness to the (alleged) drink driver, instead of putting a curse on him?
Allahu Alim
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Muslim Woman
07-25-2013, 04:16 PM
:sl:


May Allah grants them Jannat.
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عابر سبيل
07-25-2013, 07:09 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ibṉĀdam
Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi Raji'oon. May Allah forgive them and grant them Jannatul Firdaus.
format_quote Originally Posted by Muhammad
That is sad news, innaa lillahi wa innaa ilayhi raji'oon. May Allaah :swt: have mercy upon the family and accept all of their good deeds and make them amongst the forgiven in this blessed month, Aameen.
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
:sl:


May Allah grants them Jannat.
Ameen.
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Jedi_Mindset
07-25-2013, 08:24 PM
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raijoon

Ya Allah, may U forgive their sins, grant patience to their families and may U grant the deceased Jannatul Firdaus. Ameen.

These incidents happen too often, when the culprit drives away, not long ago a driver ran over a young boy here and he fled, didnt even stop, but he got caught by the police. The boy didnt survive, anyway the court judgement was around a week ago, the family werent too happy so out of anger they assaulted the culprit. I can't blame them though, its a very cowardly act to just drive away after you run someone over.
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Aisha
07-25-2013, 08:32 PM
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raaji'oon.

format_quote Originally Posted by ibṉĀdam
Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi Raji'oon. May Allah forgive them and grant them Jannatul Firdaus.
format_quote Originally Posted by Muhammad
That is sad news, innaa lillahi wa innaa ilayhi raji'oon. May Allaah :swt: have mercy upon the family and accept all of their good deeds and make them amongst the forgiven in this blessed month, Aameen.
format_quote Originally Posted by Iceee
Inna lillah wa inna ilayhi raji’oon…
May Allah forgive them, raise their ranks, exalt their status, and grant them Jannah during this blessed month of Ramadan.
May Allah make their
graves a vast place, enlighten them, and make it one of the gardens of Paradise!
Ameen thumma Ameen.
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QueenofHerts
07-27-2013, 07:06 PM
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raaji'oon.
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Insaanah
07-27-2013, 07:16 PM
Innaa lillaahi wa innaa ilayhi raajioon, and ameen to all the du3as above.

What a travesty that a drug with so many potentially devastating sequelae to it's ingestion is still legal in most of the world.
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Sulayyman
07-27-2013, 09:12 PM
Ina lillahi wa ina ilayhi raji'oon.. Ameen to all the above Du'aa.

Really really sad news. Sadly in the west, he will not be justly punished. Cowardly move by him (trying to get away after the crash).
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ابن آل مرة
07-28-2013, 12:32 AM
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ladylinda
08-03-2013, 07:05 AM
may god bless their souls.. :-(
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sister herb
08-03-2013, 08:59 AM
Salam alaykum

We all never know when is our last moment.

May Allah be mercy to them.
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Allahuakbar_
08-03-2013, 09:00 AM
May allah have mercy on thrm and grant them jannah
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kate124
08-03-2013, 08:37 PM
May their souls rest in peace. Amin. Death is a reality which is not realized by many of us. The time limit of the deceased couple in the world recieved an end and the accident became a reason of their death under the cover of pretext. Man is mortal and the world is transitory. We should always pray to God for His forgiveness and mercy upon us.
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MightyFeathers
08-07-2013, 04:37 AM
This is a tragedy. *sigh* If only people would realize that getting yourself drunk at a bar and then driving however man miles down the highway just ain't the thing to do. It is the cause of many horrendous accidents such as this one, and countless others. It seems like every time the news come on we get another story about somebody getting in a crash while driving under the influence. If they'd only learn, if they'd only learn. May God help them.

And may God have mercy on the souls of these persons and comfort and console their family during this tragic event.
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_E_3
08-07-2013, 04:43 AM
This is one of many reasons why alcohol should be banned

May Allah bless them
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User_23338
08-10-2013, 03:52 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by _E_
This is one of many reasons why alcohol should be banned

May Allah bless them
unfortunately, we are surrounded by a bunch of morons who think life is all about alcohol, sex and partying, and these people will never change themselves sadly, they don't want to be changed, which is very messed up.
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h-n
08-19-2013, 07:20 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by glo



That's such tragic news! It must be devastating for all who knew this young family. :cry:

I wonder though whether Allah in his great mercy would show forgiveness to the (alleged) drink driver, instead of putting a curse on him?
Allahu Alim
The points are (we of course are only ever going to go by what we hear of the story);-

1. People who drink alcohol are still responsible for their actions (which is agreed by the courts in this world wereby they are charged for crimes).

People drinking alcohol are more suscepetible of listening to the devils whispers, and going into lewd behaviour etc, but still it is no different to people letting other people make the decisions in their life, ie to fight where your leaders tell you etc. On the Day of Judgement you are 100% responsible for your actions, knowing full well that alcohol could effect them.

This on his record for the Day of Judgement is seen as he is responsible for the act as he placed himself in the position of being harmful to others, how else do people think that others can get hurt?? He may not have had the intention of murdering someone, but he did -he ended the lives of others by not doing the right thing. God is not going to place him as the "innocent party". It wasn't as if you were just driving your car and someone just stepped out in front of you.

Killing someone is as if you killed everyone in this world.

It is no different if someone disliking people decided to place a trap outside of his home to deter people, as he is ill mannered, and bad to others, Allah may allow someone to have an accident and be killed by him-therefore the Man was responsible for his actions, and was already in a cursed existence.

Allah has also a record of everyone killed in Afghanistan, Iraq etc, that is on the records of the people who carry them out. If they happen to kill others unintenionally whilst bombing, it still goes on their records as if its murder.

To be clear of the above it is to go over Death.

People who kill, think they have control over other people's affairs, Allah can keep anyone alive, people have lived with severe injuries, if Allah had willed that family that died could have still been kept alive. Murders etc do not run the next world (the angels aren't frantically going around catching the souls of people), Allah knows what people are going to do (doesn't change the fact that we are being tested, as we expect God to know everything), just because God knows everything does that mean that we shouldn't exist -no it does not).

When people are cursed like Pharaoh who killed the newborns, Allah allows them to kill, and have a bad record as they desire to belittle the lives of others, he provides a goodly reward for the good and a bad one to the evil doers. Obviously there are those people who don't think of others and repeat and repeat their mistakes and it is no surprise to anyone that they kill someone, and kill someone they did. What a bad existence for sinful people, placing other people in harms way and letting others die.

So the answer to your question, rest assured that Allah who is All-Compassionate and All-Merciful is Just and fair, and will not treat people merely as innocent parties just as he did when Prophet Moses peace be upon him killed someone-even Allah said to him, that if that one you killed had prayed even once, he would have been in big trouble (of course that fight went too far, and it was not planned that he would be killed at the start when he was standing up for someone who was a hothead).
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glo
08-19-2013, 07:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by h-n
This on his record for the Day of Judgement is seen as he is responsible for the act as he placed himself in the position of being harmful to others, how else do people think that others can get hurt?? He may not have had the intention of murdering someone, but he did -he ended the lives of others by not doing the right thing. God is not going to place him as the "innocent party". It wasn't as if you were just driving your car and someone just stepped out in front of you.
Are you sure you are not making Allah in your own image? And giving him the qualities and attributes you would like him to have?

An all-knowing and all-compassionate God also understands what drove this man to drinking and what made him get into the car that day and any remorse he may be feeling inside.
An all-knowing and all-compassionate God knows the struggles of all of us - victims and perpetrators. And very often those roles aren't black-and-white, but all shades of grey ...
My point is, we might call one person is the victim and the other the perpetrator - but God's sees deeper.

And we raise ourselves to a very haughty and prideful status if we claim to know what God thinks and going to do!
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h-n
08-19-2013, 10:01 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by glo

Are you sure you are not making Allah in your own image? And giving him the qualities and attributes you would like him to have?

An all-knowing and all-compassionate God also understands what drove this man to drinking and what made him get into the car that day and any remorse he may be feeling inside.
An all-knowing and all-compassionate God knows the struggles of all of us - victims and perpetrators. And very often those roles aren't black-and-white, but all shades of grey ...
My point is, we might call one person is the victim and the other the perpetrator - but God's sees deeper.

And we raise ourselves to a very haughty and prideful status if we claim to know what God thinks and going to do!
Perhaps you also like to say that a "prostitute" has some deeper issues, that only God can understand too.

God is not going to say that if you drank alcohol for such and such a reason, then I will treat you sympathetically, but if you drank alcohol for another such and such a reason then I will treat you as a guilty person. So frankly, it doesn't matter what the reasons were, you are a guilty person. Even in hell the sinful people are going to one place-Hell, the Murderers, rapists, idol worshippers etc.


The Prophets Noah, Lut, Solomon, Salih, Moses, Muhammad, Jesus peace be upon them warned people to avoid sins, they didn't say that if you commit adultery for such and such reason, then you are going to be let off leniently then others who committed the same sin as they did it for another.

Allah, the All-Compassionate and All-Merciful, the Just, the Ruler on the Day of Judgement has already provided us with the rules that we need to be successful in this world and in the hereafter.

We are people that have the same test as the rest in all of humanity, and we do not have a different Day of Judgement. Of course its even set in stone! -the 10 commandments. So what an awful thing to say, that I am attaching attributes to God, when he is Just.

The test in simple to understand, that people no matter if they were literate or not, could understand. Why wouldn't we understand the test? As its the only opportunity that we have to go to Paradise. It is that you are belittling and treating people as simpletons, and not remembering that God has created them, and if they are good enough to be judged by God himself and potentially go to Hell forever, then you would not be underestimating people to say that they don't know or understand.

Allah is not going to surprise us on the Day of Judgement and say, "actually such and such a rule will not apply anymore", because this person was so depressed that he killed someone etc.

Its not arrogance, of course we know what God thinks about evil sins, and what he is going to do to those who don't repent. That is why God sent the Prophets to tell us. How can you be tested on something when you don't know what the test is about???? Well we aren't, God has made it fair that he has told us. We don't know everything about God, ie his his other creations etc-but in terms of humanity's test -YES. Of course he has already told us that he will be sending the evil doers to Hell if they don't repent. So we know what we are going to be tested on (saying no to idol worship, murder, adultery etc), and how to save ourselves from Hell.
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Muslim Woman
08-20-2013, 01:29 AM
:sl:

format_quote Originally Posted by h-n

Allah is not going to surprise us on the Day of Judgement and say, "actually such and such a rule will not apply anymore", because this person was so depressed that he killed someone etc.

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if one repents sincerely , s/he will be forgiven - Allah has assured us about that . Also because of one small good deed , a sinner can be forgiven and may enter Jannat . We know from Hadith that a prostitute was forgiven because she gave water to a thristy dog.

So , we don't know whom Allah will show His mercy on the final day . And Allah Knows Best.
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h-n
08-20-2013, 02:55 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
:sl:




if one repents sincerely , s/he will be forgiven - Allah has assured us about that . Also because of one small good deed , a sinner can be forgiven and may enter Jannat . We know from Hadith that a prostitute was forgiven because she gave water to a thristy dog.

So , we don't know whom Allah will show His mercy on the final day . And Allah Knows Best.
Which I've already agreed to, even including at the end of the paragraph if they don't repent.

Also that ex-prostitute still accepted the existence of the one God.

The Quran is very clear, that those who don't repent go to Hell, and that the acceptance of the one God, the Day of Judgement, Paradise and Hell is a requirement. As we wouldn't commit idol worship like Christians, dismiss Hell like the Jews, the Day of Judgement like Sikhism. Islam no corruption, and changing texts for the life of this world. Idol worship a big no no and unacceptable to Allah 100%.

Prophet Ibrahim peace be upon him did not say to the idol worshippers, you may or you may not be going to Hell for your sins, rather that he said that you need to repent to God first.

No Prophet ever came to the people and said I think God might or he might not be sending you to Hell for this and this if you don't repent. It certain, that is why Prophet Noah peace be upon him went for so long too.

What I've basically said is that God hasn't made a mistake, that when people talk of them as if they are poor, poor people that they aren't being tested fairly. We're not going to say to God, I think you shouldn't be testing people and just exempt practically everyone in this world because they weak people etc. God is already testing them, and their records being written.

Other people can freely say that others, even Christians are being "nicer" by saying what people wish to hear, but actually they are treating people as if they are dumb and need a lot of help from them to pass their tests -I on the other hand, am not talking to people as if they weak, dumb people, as I remember every day that God is good enough to judge them himself on the Day of Judgement, and if they couldn't handle their test, then they wouldn't be here in the first place.

I am not one who is ever saying that no non-Muslim have ever done right things, ie to give to charity, even the Christians, hindus of course take care and feed and give water, milk to their children-but does that mean that God is going to let them all go to Heaven now?? As they reject God, and do good intentions for personal reasons, the answer is no. They ask people to turn away from the Lord of the Worlds, when they are only people themselves and God has given them so much.
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glo
08-20-2013, 07:59 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by h-n
Perhaps you also like to say that a "prostitute" has some deeper issues, that only God can understand too.
That's exactly what I am saying!

Do you know how many desperate women are forced into prostitution to make a living and keep their children from starvation?
Oh no, don't tell me ... they all do it because they are immoral and love to have sex with as many men as possible - regardless of any physical, medical or emotional risk to themselves!

Get real, h-n, and learn a bit about the world we live in.
May God protect you that you will never find yourself in a situation so desperate.
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h-n
08-20-2013, 12:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by glo
That's exactly what I am saying!

Do you know how many desperate women are forced into prostitution to make a living and keep their children from starvation?
Oh no, don't tell me ... they all do it because they are immoral and love to have sex with as many men as possible - regardless of any physical, medical or emotional risk to themselves!

Get real, h-n, and learn a bit about the world we live in.
May God protect you that you will never find yourself in a situation so desperate.
Obviously you understand people less, and even about religion,

God NEVER said there was an acceptable reason for prostitution, and people who go into prostitution are able to find other means, they go to Males who pay for sex-have they no sense, were do these Males get money from -or are you going to tell me that they go into prostitution too??

It is far more important to forbid evil and enjoin good-and that is were God helps those who do that, there is not such thing as being acceptable to being immoral for anyone including children. Even working in a factory is far more acceptable then going so low.

In the western media, they were actually supporting a brazilian female who said she was selling her virginity to pay for her mother's treatment as she was so ill. That is disgusting, everyone has a test to make it to Paradise, you won't be supporting others on the Day, or ever say that you should have committed an immoral deeds for so and so.

It is because people are saying that the above acts are done in kindness so they think its OK.

There is no such thing as prostitution being done for a kindly act,
There is no such thing as doing any immoral deeds for a kindly act.

We don't allow wrongdoers to start saying that this is not fair on what God has taught and what he is testing us on. We obviously aren't going to be like Desmond Tutu who is basically saying that God should be accepting homosexuals. IS he more merciful then God to tell him what to accept and what not to accept? No he is not!

There was another case, were a female's twin sister died, who left a bucket list, as she couldn't do them, the surviving sister decides that she will be carrying them out, which includes going to a nudist colony, getting a tattoo etc. As people cannot see, is that they do it for the lust of this world.

A prostitute if she was so sincere about providing a "good" home for her kids would do so, not be involved in disgusting acts. It is because they think it would be easier to earn money that way, then working. There are many poor people in Pakistan for example, and they have lost their husbands but they are supported, not only because of the benefit of an extended family (but when they have none it is from the help of others). Were there is no welfare state. So no excuse even in the UK there is help from the government.

Your twisted in your viewpoints about people, treating them as if they are weak, perhaps you might be thinking that God has made a mistake and he shouldn't be testing them (he might as well just exempt everybody and send them to Paradise), as they are the poor, poor people that you make them out to be. You claim your being kind to people, but your treating them as if they are just dumb and can't cut it out to be in this world were God himself the Merciful has already chosen them to be. :shade: Your not more Merciful then God, and as he has chosen to test people this way, it is not for you to say that these laws are not good enough to be applied to so and so-as God as already chosen to do so, and his words are LAW. They are the same laws no matter what people circumstances are in this world, no matter what part of history they were living in.

When Prophet Lut peace be upon him told the homosexuals to repent, he didn't say to them that "you may, or you may not" go to Hell if you don't repent. It was the fact that they will, neither did Prophet Lut peace be upon him say, that if you don't repent, but do a kindly deed, God will admit you into Paradise. Neither did he say it was understandable for them to be homosexual.

It is the media that has influenced people more, were anything goes mentality, were support wrong doers to such and extent that don't bother telling them that they are committing sinful acts.

There are plenty of females who oppose Islam so much, and call it oppressive to females, were was there opposition when they were having sex outside of marriage? When they were going into prostitution etc?? Why did they not strongly go against those people, instead of the Muslims who were telling them to do no such thing.

LET'S not also forget that Satan himself is not telling his children, (that when he tells them to get the humans to commit immoral acts) but they may make it to Paradise because it wasn't there fault, they couldn't help being evil, they had no choice.

This is what happens when you DON'T forbid evil and enjoin what is good, and were Satan has made evil deeds fair seeming on you and them. Your just showing that you understand people less, and even what God has provided in this world in his message. Your just proving that with Christianity is not about being religious but about receiving attention from each other, and that you wouldn't want to jeopardize that by telling people that they are on the path to Hell-fire if they don't repent.

Your prayerss mean nothing, as your an idol worshipper (treating the Prophet Jesus peace be upon him as your saviour), even the prayer of a donkey is more better as it does not commit idol worship. But there is no situation that a person would be in, that would warrant them to commit immoral acts, you might as well start telling people that God prefers that you all be wealthy as it is the only way to prevent yourselves from doing immoral acts (so you may not be led into "desperate situations".
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glo
08-20-2013, 01:09 PM
You may disagree with me, sister h-n, but please don't call me depraved. Thank you.

Read up some stories in those charities who support women in leaving prostitution and it will break you heart! :cry:
http://www.communitycare.co.uk/artic...-leave-the.htm
http://www.eavesforwomen.org.uk/abou...-poppy-project

It would shock many people to hear the real stories of the women we work with. They are written off by many as “prostitutes”, “addicts” and “wasters”. They are seen as having chosen a course in life and living with the consequences. Sympathy is for those who are seen as ‘innocent’ victims and often this is connected with being trafficked from overseas and sold for sex in the UK. Those within the UK who happen to be found on the streets or in brothels are rarely seen with the same understanding. These women are perceived as being complicit and that they have made “lifestyle choices” which have taken them to that place. - See more at: http://www.beyondthestreets.org.uk/i....CPDlhfux.dpuf
http://www.beyondthestreets.org.uk/i...yth_of_choice/

Anyway ... all of this is off topic in this thread.
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h-n
08-20-2013, 01:28 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by glo
You may disagree with me, sister h-n, but please don't call me depraved. Thank you.

Read up some stories in those charities who support women in leaving prostitution and it will break you heart! :cry:
http://www.communitycare.co.uk/artic...-leave-the.htm
http://www.eavesforwomen.org.uk/abou...-poppy-project


http://www.beyondthestreets.org.uk/i...yth_of_choice/

Anyway ... all of this is off topic in this thread.
I'm not your sister, but only to those who are Muslims.

As stated we don't allow wrongdoers to start dictating what religion is to be, to suit their purposes (that people should just treat them as innocent parties regardless of what they do with their own hands and feet) and there is no need to treat people as if they haven't already heard, seen and read the problems in this world.

Your right it is off topic, so next time you wish to question God being Merciful, you might want to think about creating another thread.
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loveofgod
08-20-2013, 01:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by h-n
I'm not your sister, but only to those who are Muslims.
That gives you no right to disrespect her.
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Hulk
08-20-2013, 02:32 PM
In this world we are only able to judge based on the outward, but beyond that only God truly knows. As muslims, yes, it is important to enjoin good and forbid evil but not with arrogance nor with bad adab and especially not without wisdom.

Anymore off topic posts will be deleted inshaaAllah.
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Muslim Woman
08-20-2013, 04:50 PM
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time to close the thread ?
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Hulk
08-20-2013, 05:20 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
time to close the thread ?
Wa alaykumsalam,

Good idea sis.
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