"so supportive and genuinely kind"...oh snap, i guess that wasn't me!
you must look at the question as any other questions, ie, "what do you do during the athan?" hadith tell us to be quiet, and recite what the mu'athan does after he does, and adding "la hawla wa la quwatta, ilha bliia" after hiya al salaah and hiya al filaah"...THAT'S IT!
now, if someone says you must cry during the athan (or institutes a new item to the Din), then that is a biddah (not permissible). take from that what you want.
now if hearing the athan, for some reason, makes one cry, that is not biddah. there are stories about Bilal, RA, who coudn't recite the athan after Rasulullah, pbuh, died. Bilal would start to cry because he just couldn't do it (well, he couldn't do it cuz he was crying).
see the difference?
ma salaama
First, thanks for your response. But I am confused as to how you got to your particular response, such as interpreting my question and a previous post of another that I referenced as (me) asking:
- Is it appropriate to disrupt while one is giving adhan? Whether it be crying or laughing or talking about nonsense during adhan – my post nor the prior 2008 post asks or states that. Rather my post as does the prior reflects on why some people are humbled by the beautiful and touching words of the Quran (whether it be the adhan or a story from the Hadith).
You said:
“"what do you do during the athan?" hadith tell us to be quiet, and recite what the mu'athan does after he does, and adding "la hawla wa la quwatta, ilha bliia" after hiya al salaah and hiya al filaah"...THAT'S IT!
Second, I am assuming you actually took the time to read the prior post as an extension to my post but somehow missed the point or became angry by both posts and its response. Because if anyone or most reading only the actual words of either post or maybe even with some slight deviation from those words - I still fail to understand how you got to your response.
- Who said anything about “someone” telling one to cry as being a good or honorable thing to do during adhan? My post nor the prior even remotely says that or gives that impression. Again, I do not know how you reached your interpretation thereby utterly lost with your response.
You said:
"...if someone says you should cry during adhan..." etc.
Lastly, because you’re prior two response as stated above are confusing rather than provide any enlightenment or understanding – your very last statement is completely out of context.
- Since I nor the person in the prior post is asking whether it is okay to rudely disrupt a person giving adhan nor asking if someone tells you should cry during adhan – then clearly or (at least to me) the story of Bilal, his reason for crying etc definitely fall out of context therefore what “difference” are you speaking of? The issue or post is asking rather - why would anyone say that being humbled at the sound and meaning of adhan (or any other Islamic story or Quranic verses) makes some people so emotional to actually silently cry and reflect (and more eager to continue learning about Islam) while others such conduct and overall view Islam as being a violent/non-peaceful religion? The latter must be the same people who say those crying in such manner are actually evil or disbelievers. Or they can be those people who take things out of context (not for its facial readily apparent meaning), get angry, or offended and therefore find a person acting in such manner (or asking such questions) as being either evil or completely stupid.
You said:
“now if hearing the athan, for some reason, makes one cry, that is not biddah. there are stories about Bilal, RA, who coudn't recite the athan after Rasulullah, pbuh, died. Bilal would start to cry because he just couldn't do it (well, he couldn't do it cuz he was crying).see the difference?”
So in conclusion: If however, my post or the prior post truly offended you or make no sense or you found it to be so dumb/inappropriate – then I apologize to you and anyone else that feels the same as you. Because that was totally not my intent nor did I take the prior post to be as such.