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observer
I think you may be missing the point.
First you intentionally attribute the origin of the insect to "nature" knowing full well muslims attribute it to God.
As seen below
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observer
That's right - it did. I think it did very well, too, don't you?
Then you are reminded that muslims attribute the origin of the insect to God and no other force, and then you are asked not to turn this thread into a debate thread. To which you responded
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observer
But what I (and most other atheists) believe does not exclude god from being the one that created the laws that produce such beauty. One could say that the underlying laws of nature are the ultimate expression of god's genius.
If you are not asking us to subscribe to deism, then what are you asking us to do? Seems that you are trying to say is that "The insect is produced through evolution and its ok for you to attribute it's existence to evolution because it is possible that God created the laws that produce evolution."
If this is the argument you are trying to put forth, then it would seem that much of the posts in the closed thread has been lost on you. I can let it slide that perhaps you as a non-muslim might have trouble understanding the concept that effect has no power on it's own to have a cause.
However you have no excuse if even after such a lengthy discussion all you have in mind is "Muslims reject evolution entirely. So I should try to make them understand that evolution is possible and that it's ok for them to believe in it."
Once again, let's not turn this into another debate thread. The beauty of the insect can be seen clearly without me having to subscribe to your beliefs whatever it may be, and you do not have to subscribe to mine.