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fromelsewhere
So what do you propose? ISIS-style lawlessness that passes for "an Islamic state" where anyone who dares criticize the authorities gets their hands chopped off or gets thrown off a building? It's already been tried multiple times and failed and led to plenty of misery... look at the Talibans and Afghanistan or al-Shababb and Somalia or Boko Haram and Nigeria for a few examples.
Much has indeed been tried and with much effort exerted in Allah's way......... however, the perfidious enemy, the kingdom of "great"(tiny and conniving) britain, it's bloated and mentally ill daughter, and their allies, are guilty - guilty of massive crimes and sabotage against the Islamic world for which the perpetrators shall pay dearly.
The fact that such sabotage, manipulation, and outright aggression takes place is what needs to be looked at and dealt with before state building.
Some cases in point are the massacres that took place around the world during british rule - and then the massacres that took place and still take place after elaborate and fake "independence" shows, bush obama and trumps' flirting with burma and it's following brazen actions are a clear testament to the falsehood of washington and it's allies. Similar events happened in bosnia too.
next you'll find the forcing of the usury system onto the Muslim markets which is then used to siphon resources which replenish the dying tail-eating usury system which has infected and taken control of most western secularist nations. The sanctions and other economic blackmailing backed by overt and covert threats of destitution and war ravaging also need to be included in the equation. (A bit silly to accuse saddam of "starving his own people" simply because he refused to bow to unjust demands of a criminal rogue nation which thrives off international poverty and bloodshed - even worse when it turns into false accusations such as "amerikkka in 45 min" and engineered wars of aggression. Ironic that north korea is candid about it's programmes, and is also accused of "starving his own people" with rarely any mention of american forced sanctions in the same paragraph.
The crimes of israhell are no secret and neither are it's illegal weapons or the vetos used to stifle lawful positive action against a criminal state.
So actually, i would prefer to live in an islamic caliphate where my children could grow up in a good atmosphere.
Maybe you like the fake jewish state better, and obviously find it's actions either unworthy of mention - or better actively suppressed.....
.....i don't, and also don't see anything wrong with wanting to live in a genuine islamic state in lieu of a fake jewish state or a fake democratic state or a fake christian state.
The situation of the planet is currently lawless, and the nations are worse off than the lawless bedouin tribes that roamed the deserts 1500 years ago - that was before the prophet civilized them with Allah's help of course,
....and the u.n ruling body - the security council is more illogical and tyrranous than abu jahl, abu lahab, umayyah, abu sufyan, and al waleed ibn mugheerah huddling together at despicable najwa planning boycotts and lynchings near the ka'bah during the pagan era.