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سيف الله
06-06-2015, 12:28 PM
Salaam

Good riddance to the pathetic Blair. Heres an assessment of his legacy trying to bring 'peace' to Middle East.

For Arabs – and for Britons who lost their loved ones in his shambolic war in Iraq – Blair’s appointment was an insult

Tony Blair’s time as Middle East envoy representing the US, Russia, the UN and the EU has finally come to an end. Eight years after he took up the role, Blair tendered his resignation and left one question: how come a war criminal ever became a “peace envoy” in the first place?

The people of the Middle East – and much of the world – have been asking this question ever since Blair was appointed the Quartet’s man in Jerusalem, solemnly and hopelessly tasked to bring “peace” between Israelis and Palestinians. Was his new mission supposed to wash the blood from his hands after the catastrophe of the Bush-Blair invasion of Iraq and the hundreds of thousands of innocents who died as a result?

For Arabs – and for Britons who lost their loved ones in his shambolic war in Iraq – Blair’s appointment was an insult. The man who never said he was sorry for his political disaster simply turned up in Jerusalem four years later and, with a team which spent millions in accommodation and air fares, managed to accomplish absolutely nothing in the near-decade that followed.

Blair appeared indifferent to the massive suffering of the Palestinians – he was clearly impotent in preventing it – and spent much of his time away from the tragedy of the Middle East, advising the great and the good and a clutch of Muslim dictators, and telling the world – to Israel’s satisfaction – of the dangers represented by Iran.

The more prescient he thought he was, the more irrelevant he became in the eyes of the region he was sent to protect. A Blair supporter once defended him on Channel 4 by recalling how he had travelled to the Middle East almost 100 times – without realising the essential irony: that Blair abandoned the region almost 100 times for more rewarding destinations.

Blair was supposed to produce more than the easy panaceas that slipped from his lips, the most outrageous of which was his contention that resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict could be easier than ending the Northern Ireland crisis. But the Palestinians have much more in common with the Irish Catholics cleansed from their lands by the Protestant planters of the 17th century than with the pitiful historical battle in the province, whose resolution proved to be Blair’s only lasting accomplishment.

If only he had resigned more than two years ago, after Palestinian leaders had themselves characterised his job as “useless, useless, useless”. Israel, of course, would never have described him as this. Stoutly condemning the campaign for Israel’s “delegitimisation”, Blair talked about this as a form of bias which was “an affront to humanity” – a choice of words he never used about the massive civilian casualties inflicted by Israel on the Palestinians of Gaza.

The Arabs will now wait to see if the Quartet will repeat its folly by appointing an even more unsuitable candidate – a truly difficult task – although many in the region think the whole panjandrum must be abandoned. Eight years ago, there just might have been the slimmest chance of bringing a Palestinian state into being. Today there is none.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/blundering-tony-blair-quits-as-middle-east-peace-envoy--only-israel-will-miss-him-10279906.html

As George Galloway MP said, "not since Emperor Caligula appointed his horse as a consul to Rome has there been a more inappropriate appointment than Tony Blair as Middle East Peace Envoy."

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سيف الله
06-06-2015, 12:41 PM
Salaam

Another comment piece

Blair and his ****ing legacy

“He should put a white coat on with a red cross and let’s start the bloody crusades again.”

This was not a Muslim activist or anti-war activist who made the recommendation to Blair but his former Deputy Prime Minister- John Prescott. Even Prescott who has always supported Blair in his political life, is in no doubt of the aggressive approach which Blair has towards the Muslim world

With George W Bush, he engaged in an illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003. This murderous adventure was without a UN mandate and against international will. The US-led invasion, dubbed as ‘Shock and Awe’ could only be compared with the Mongol invasion in 1258. Death, destruction and pillage that visited this once seat of learning and capital of the Abbasid Muslim civilisation is still haunting Iraq and the Middle East today.

Some reports have claimed the Iraq war claimed the lives of 500,000 Iraqi people and 4,486 U.S. soldiers. It cost more than $2 trillion to the US economy.

Blair used the dodgy dossier on “Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD): The Assessment of the British Government” to attack the country. It was littered with false allegations such as Iraq possessed WMDs, including chemical and biological weapons. It even alleged that Iraq had reconstituted its nuclear weapons programme.

Worldwide protests took place on 15th February 2003 coordinated in more than 600 world cities. Arguably this was “the largest protest event in human history”. In London, over one million people marched against the war, but the democracy which he promotes for the Muslim world was seldom practised when he was the Prime Minister of his own nation.

Blairs approach to the Middle East

Blair has made no secret of what the priorities of the western world should be and what the direction of western foreign policy should be.

In a speech at Bloomberg in London in April 2014, he said that “whatever our other differences, we should be prepared to reach out and cooperate with the East, and in particular Russia and China,” to combat Islamic extremism. He further elaborated and said that tackling “a radicalised and politicised view of Islam” should be at the top of the global political agenda.

He said many in the West seemed “curiously reluctant” to face up to a force that “is undermining the possibility of peaceful coexistence in an era of globalisation.”

He is also on record defending the violent coup by General Sisi that overthrew the Muslim Brotherhood government of Mohammed Morsi in Egypt 2013. He said that “the Muslim Brotherhood government was not simply a bad government. It was systematically taking over the traditions and institutions of the country.”

He said the protest that led to Morsi’s departure “was not an ordinary protest. It was the absolutely necessary rescue of a nation. We should support the new government and help it”.

The irony of Middle East envoy

Ironically, after a brutal campaign which left the Middle East in tatters in every sense, Tony Blair was appointed as the world’s ambassador to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict after he left Downing Street in 2007.
Blair has achieved nothing positive for the Middle East in his tenure. In fact Israel has inflicted on Palestinian Muslims indiscriminate bombings that has killed innocent women and children, was silent on extrajudicial assassinations and equally muted on a strong Zionist government. A pro-Israeli bias has been expressed throughout his role. Condemnation has not been part of the equation when it came to Gaza or bombing of refugee camps by Israel

Business pursuits has also been a feature of his Middle East venture. Blair does not disclose any of his clients, but they have included countries such as Peru, Colombia, Kuwait, Vietnam and Kazakhstan. His client group has featured PetroSaudi, an oil company with links to the Saudi royal family, finance firm JPMorgan and Mubadala, an Abu Dhabi wealth fund.

His critics highlighted links between Abu Dhabi – the UAE’s capital – and a controversial Palestinian exile, Mohammed Dahlan, who has made no secret of his desire to become the next Palestinian leader. Abu Dhabi is allegedly bankrolling his campaign to unseat the current president, Mahmoud Abbas.

Blair on ideological struggle

In a widely publicised speech Wednesday 23rd April 2014 Blair declared that Western leaders should “elevate the issue of religious extremism to the top of the agenda”.

Blair’s viewpoint is that the battle of ideas with Islam is now of greater significance than the struggle over Ukraine currently embroiling the European Union, the U.S. and Russia. He sees it as of greater importance than the economic crisis, human rights abuses and regional conflicts involving Japan, China and Western nations more generally. He warned Western leaders they must put aside their differences with Russia over Ukraine to focus on the threat of Islamic extremism saying that powerful nations must “take sides” and back “open-minded” groups. He said they must co-operate with other countries – “in particular, Russia and China” – regardless of “other differences”.

Indeed, Blair would rather see the West support Putin’s oppression of Muslims within Russia and in the Caucasus, China’s repression in Xinjiang and every monarch and dictator in the Arab world, rather than allow the Muslim world to be liberated from 100 years of subjugation.

Blair et al have struggled for decades to articulate an argument to try and divide the world’s Muslims. From ‘Islamists’ versus “moderate”.

It is a great disappointment to Blair that Islam, rather than muscular liberalism is taught in Muslim schools and institutions in the Muslim world

****ing legacy

Blair has left a ****ing legacy in the Middle East which is full of tears, blood and terror. He has treated the people of the region the same way the wolf treats sheep. This part of the world will remember Blair no less similar than the other criminal rulers in the Muslim world. They too have had no concern for their affairs and their economic/political future.

Indeed he may be standing down next month but it is very clear that he plans to remain ‘active on the issues’.

http://www.hizb.org.uk/current-affairs/blair-and-his-****ing-legacy
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Insaanah
06-06-2015, 12:44 PM
Wa alaikum assalaam.

This is what he will now be doing:

Tony Blair is to become the chairman of an organisation that combats anti-Semitism and racism in Europe.
It has called on European countries to bring in legislation creating clearer definitions of racism and anti-Semitism, boost educational programmes and make Holocaust denial a criminal offence.

The organisation also wants governments to provide security at synagogues and Jewish schools.
The Board of Deputies of British Jews welcomed Mr Blair's appointment.

Senior Vice President Richard Verber said Mr Blair has "proved himself a good friend of the Jewish community" and was "well-placed to bring his experience to the fight against anti-Semitism and intolerance".
Sources said, however, that Mr Blair would "remain active" in the region in an informal role and was "fully committed to assisting the international community in its work with Israel and the Palestinians to bring about progress on the two-state solution".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33001961
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سيف الله
08-06-2015, 06:17 PM
Salaam

Another update

Tony Blair could face trial over 'illegal' Iraq war, says Jeremy Corbyn

Corbyn, the Labour leadership frontrunner, claims Chilcot report may lead to ‘consequences’ for former PM over decisions made during 2003 invasion


Tony Blair should stand trial on charges of war crimes if the evidence suggests he broke international law over the “illegal” Iraq war in 2003, the Labour leadership frontrunner Jeremy Corbyn has said.

Corbyn called on the former prime minister to “confess” the understandings he reached with George W Bush in the run up to the invasion.

Asked on BBC Newsnight whether Blair should stand trial on war crimes charges, Corbyn said: “If he has committed a war crime, yes. Everybody who has committed a war crime should be.”

The veteran MP for Islington North was a high-profile opponent of the war and became a leading member of the Stop the War coalition. He said: “It was an illegal war. I am confident about that. Indeed Kofi Annan [UN secretary general at the time of the war] confirmed it was an illegal war and therefore [Tony Blair] has to explain to that. Is he going to be tried for it? I don’t know. Could he be tried for it? Possibly.”

Corbyn said he expects the eventual publication of the Chilcot report will force Blair to explain his discussions with President Bush in the runup to the war.

He said: “The Chilcot report is going to come out sometime. I hope it comes out soon. I think there are some decisions Tony Blair has got to confess or tell us what actually happened. What happened in Crawford, Texas, in 2002 in his private meetings with George [W] Bush. Why has the Chilcot report still not come out because – apparently there is still debate about the release of information on one side or the other of the Atlantic. At that point Tony Blair and the others that have made the decisions are then going to have to deal with the consequences of it.”

On Newsnight, Corbyn made clear that he is opposed to British involvement in air strikes against Islamic State forces in Iraq and Syria. Prime minister David Cameron is hoping to win parliamentary support to extend Britain’s involvement in the aerial bombing of Isis targets from Iraq to Syria.

Corbyn said: “I would want to isolate Isis. I don’t think going on a bombing campaign in Syria is going to bring about their defeat. I think it would make them stronger. I am not a supporter of military intervention. I am a supporter of isolating Isis and bringing about a coalition of the region against them.”

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/05/tony-blair-could-face-trial-illegal-iraq-war-jeremy-corbyn
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czgibson
08-06-2015, 11:24 PM
Greetings,

Like many others, I was staggered to hear about Blair being appointed a Middle East Peace Envoy. It was a highly inappropriate position for him to hold after the huge amount of suffering he has caused in the region.

He deserves to stand trial as a war criminal, and I very much hope that the Chilcot Report, when it finally arrives, doesn't turn out to be another whitewash.

Peace
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Abz2000
09-26-2015, 08:20 PM
If Berlusconi could become the prime minister of Italy after the Propaganda due (P2) lodge fiasco, and if George W Bush, Dick Cheney, and Rumsfeld with all their private business ventures in the middle east can convince people that they were legitimately elected into office even once - let alone twice after the george h w bush fiasco with Nurse Naira and the first zio-oil war, and all that from a land which claims to have amongst the world's most resourceful, free, and critical press, and when obama's staff tell the planet that they managed to hire four or five fighters with a 500,000,000 dollar cheque from the already heavily indebted people of the glorious u.s of a, i don't believe it's possible to be easily surprised by any of the events on the political stage.


Silvio Berlusconi*(Italian pronunciation:*[ˈsilvjo berluˈskoːni]; born 29 September 1936) is an*Italian*media tycoon*and politician who served three times as*Prime Minister of Italy, from 1994 to 1995, 2001 to 2006 and 2008 to 2011.
In 2009,*Forbes*ranked him 12th in the*List of The World's Most Powerful People*due to his domination in*Italian politics.[5]
Berlusconi was the*senior G8 leaderfrom 2009 until 2011 and he currently holds the record of G8 Summit hosting (having hosted it in Italy three times).
Berlusconi was Prime Minister for nine years in total, making him the*longest-serving*post-war Prime Minister of Italy, and the*third longest-serving*since the*Unification of Italy, after*Benito Mussolini*and*Giovanni Giolitti.




i was reading about the P2 criminal cartel again today after a few years gap and again wondered how berlusconi managed it.

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Propaganda Due

Propaganda Due*(Italian pronunciation:*[propaˈɡanda ˈduːe]), or*P2, was a*Masonic lodge*operating under the jurisdiction of the*Grand Orient of Italyfrom 1945 to 1976 (when its charter was withdrawn), and a pseudo-Masonic, "black", or "covert" lodge operating illegally (in contravention of Article 18 of the*Constitution of Italy banning secret associations) from 1976 to 1981.

During the years that the lodge was headed by*Licio Gelli, P2 was implicated in numerous Italian crimes and mysteries, including the collapse of the Vatican-affiliated Banco Ambrosiano, the murders of journalist*Mino Pecorelli*and banker*Roberto Calvi, and corruption cases within the nationwide bribe scandal Tangentopoli.

P2 came to light through the investigations into the collapse of*Michele Sindona's financial empire.[1]P2 was sometimes referred to as a "state within a state" or a "shadow government".

The lodge had among its members prominent journalists, members of parliament, industrialists, and military leaders—including*Silvio Berlusconi, who later became Prime Minister of Italy; the*Savoy*pretender*to the Italian throne*Victor Emmanuel; and the heads of all three Italian intelligence services (at the time*SISDE,*SISMI*and*CESIS).

When searching Licio Gelli's villa, the police found a document called the "Plan for Democratic Rebirth", which called for a*consolidation of the media, suppression of trade unions, and the rewriting of the*Italian Constitution.


Outside Italy, P2 was also active in Uruguay, Brazil and Argentina, with*Raúl Alberto Lastiri, Argentina's interim president (between 13 July 1973 and 12 October 1973) during the height of the "Dirty War" among its members.
*Emilio Massera, who was part of the military junta led by*Jorge Rafael Videla*from 1976 to 1978,*José López Rega, minister of Social Welfare in*Perón's government and founder of the*Argentine Anticommunist Alliance("Triple A"), and General*Guillermo Suárez Mason*were also members.

Foundation

"Propaganda" was originally founded in 1877, in Turin, as "Propaganda Massonica".
This lodge was frequented by politicians and government officials from across Italy who were unable to attend their own lodges and included prominent members of the*Piedmont*nobility. The name was changed to "Propaganda Due" following*World War II, when the Grand Orient of Italy numbered its lodges. By the 1960s, however, the lodge was all but moribund, holding few meetings.
This original lodge, however, had little to do with the one*Licio Gelli*established in 1966, two years after becoming a*freemason.[6]

Freemasonry in Italy had been outlawed by the*fascist regime*of*Benito Mussolini, but it was reborn after the*Second World War*with American encouragement.
However, its traditions of free-thinking under the*Risorgimentotransformed into fervent*anti-communism. The increasing influence of the left at the end of the 1960s had the Masons of Italy deeply worried. In 1971, Grand Master Lino Salvini of the Grand Orient of Italy—one of Italy's largest Masonic lodges—assigned to Gelli the task of reorganizing the lodge.[7]

Gelli took a list of "sleeping members"—members who were not invited to take part in*masonic rituals*anymore, as Italian freemasonry was under close scrutiny by the*Christian Democrats*in*power. From these initial connections, Gelli was able to extend his network throughout the echelons of the Italian establishment.[8]

Expulsion

The Grand Orient of Italy officially expelled Gelli and the P2 Lodge in 1976.[9]*In 1974 it was proposed that P2 be erased from the list of lodges by the Grand Orient of Italy, and the motion carried overwhelmingly.
The following year, however, a warrant was issued by the Grand Master for a new P2 lodge. It seems the Grand Orient in 1976 had only suspended, and not actually expelled, the lodge on Gelli's request.
Gelli was found to be active in the Grand Orient's national affairs two years later, financing the election of a new Grand Master.
In 1981 a Masonic tribunal decided that the 1974 vote did mean the lodge had factually ceased to exist and that Gelli's lodge had therefore been illegal since that time.[6]

Discovery

The activities of the P2 lodge were discovered by prosecutors while investigating banker*Michele Sindona, the collapse of his bank and his ties to the*Mafia.[10]

In March 1981, police found a list of alleged members in Gelli's house in*Arezzo. It contained 962 names, among which were important state officials, important politicians and a number of military officers, including the heads of the three Italian secret services.[7]*Future Italian prime minister*Silvio Berlusconi*was on the list, although he had not yet entered politics at the time.
Another famous member was*Victor Emmanuel, the son of the last*Italian king.
Prime Minister*Arnaldo Forlani*(whose*chef de cabinet*was a P2 member as well)*appointed a Parliamentary Commission of Inquiry, headed by the independent*Christian Democrat*Tina Anselmi.

Nevertheless, in May 1981, Forlani was forced to resign due to the P2 scandal, causing the fall of the Italian government.[2][11]

In July 1982, new documents were found hidden in the false bottom of a suitcase belonging to Gelli's daughter at Fiumicino airport in Rome. The documents were entitled*"Memorandum sulla situazione italiana" (Memorandum on the Italian situation)*"Piano di rinascita democratica"*(Plan of Democratic Rebirth) and are seen as the political programme of P2. According to these documents, the main enemies of Italy were the*Italian Communist Party(PCI) and the trade unions. These had to be isolated and cooperation with the communists (the second biggest party in Italy and one of the largest in Europe), which was proposed in the*historic compromise*by*Aldo Moro, needed to be disrupted.[7]

Gelli's goal was to form a new political and economic elite to lead Italy towards a right-wing,*authoritarian*form of democracy, with an*anti-communistpre-occupation.[12]*P2 advocated a programme of extensive political corruption: "political parties, newspapers and trade unions can be the objects of possible solicitations which could take the form of economic-financial manoeuvres. The availability of sums not exceeding 30 to 40 billion lire would seem sufficient to allow carefully chosen men, acting in good faith, to conquer key positions necessary for overall control."[7]

P2's influence

Opinions about the importance and reach of P2 differ. Some see the P2 as a reactionary, shadow government ready to take over power in case of an electoral victory of the*Italian Communist Party. Others think it was nothing more than a sordid association of people eager to improve their careers by making powerful and important connections.[13]*Nevertheless, P2 was implicated in numerous Italian scandals and mysteries.

Corriere della Sera takeover

In 1977 the P2 took control of the*Corriere della Sera*newspaper, a leading paper in Italy. At the time, the paper had run into financial trouble and was unable to raise bank loans because its then editor,*Piero Ottone, was considered hostile to the ruling Christian Democrats. Corriere's owners, the publishing house Rizzoli, struck a deal with Gelli. He provided the money with funds from the*Vatican Bank directed by*Paul Marcinkus. Ottone was fired and the paper's editorial line shifted to the right.[7][14]

The paper published a long interview with Gelli in 1980. The interview was carried out by the television talk show host*Maurizio Costanzo, who would also be exposed as a member of P2.[15]
Gelli said he was in favour of rewriting the Italian constitution towards a*Gaullist*presidential system.
When asked what he always wanted to be, he replied: "A puppet master" .


Bologna massacre

Main article:*August 1980 Bologna bombing
P2 members Gelli and the head of the secret service*Pietro Musumeci*were condemned for attempting to mislead the police investigation of the*Bologna massacre*on 2 August 1980, which killed 85 people and wounded more than 200.[17]

Banco Ambrosiano scandal

Main article:*Banco Ambrosiano
P2 became the target of considerable attention in the wake of the collapse of*Banco Ambrosiano*(one of*Milan's principal banks, owned in part by the*Vatican Bank), and the suspicious 1982 death of its president*Roberto Calvi*in London, initially ruled a suicide but later prosecuted as a murder. It was suspected by investigative journalists that some of the plundered funds went to P2 or to its members.[citation needed]

Protezione account

One of the documents found in 1981 was about a numbered bank account, the so-called "Protezione account," at the*Union Bank of Switzerland*in*Lugano*(Switzerland). It detailed the payment of US$ 7 million by the president of*ENI,*Florio Fiorini*through Roberto Calvi to the*Italian Socialist Party*(PSI) leader*Claudio Martelli*on behalf of*Bettino Craxi, the socialist Prime Minister from 1983–1987.
The full extent of the payment only became clear twelve years later, in 1993, during the*mani pulite*(Italian for "clean hands") investigations into political corruption. The money was allegedly a kickback on a loan which the Socialist leaders had organised to help bail out the ailing*Banco Ambrosiano.
Rumours that the Minister of Justice, Martelli, was connected with the account had been circulating since investigations began into the P2 plot. He always flatly denied them. However, learning that formal investigations were opened, he resigned as minister.[18]

Criminal organization

Parliamentary Commission of Inquiry

The Parliamentary Commission of Inquiry, headed by Anselmi, concluded that the P2 lodge was a secret*criminal organization. Allegations of surreptitious international relationships, mainly with*Argentina*(Gelli repeatedly suggested that he was a close friend of*Juan Perón) and with some people suspected of affiliation with the American*Central Intelligence Agencywere also partly confirmed; but soon a*political debate*overtook the legal level of the analysis.[19]*The majority report said that P2 action resulted in "… the pollution of the public life of a nation. It aimed to alter, often in decisive fashion, the correct functioning of the institutions of the country, according to a project which … intended to undermine our democracy." A minority report by*Massimo Teodori*concluded that P2 was not just an abnormal outgrowth from an essentially healthy system, as upheld by the majority report, but an inherent part of the system itself.[7]

New Italian law prohibiting "secret lodges"

Even though outlawed by Fascist dictator*Benito Mussolini*in 1925, Masonic institutions have been tolerated in Italy since the end of World War II and are quite open about their activities and membership.
However, a special law was issued that prohibited*secret lodges.
The*Grande Oriente d'Italia, after taking disciplinary action against members with P2 connections, distanced itself from Gelli's lodge.
Other laws introduced a prohibition on membership in allegedly secret organizations for some categories of state officials (especially*military officers).
These laws have been recently questioned by the*European Court of Human Rights. Following an action brought by a serving British naval officer, the European Court has established as precedent the illegality of any member nation attempting to ban Masonic membership for military officers, as a breach of their human rights.[20]

Licio Gelli's list found in 1981

On 17 March 1981, a list composed by Licio Gelli was found in his country house (Villa Wanda). The list should be contemplated with some caution, as it is considered to be a combination of P2 members and the contents of Gelli's*Rolodex. Many on the list were apparently never asked if they wanted to join P2, and it is not known to what extent the list includes members who were formally initiated into the lodge. Since 1981, some of those on the list have demonstrated their distance from P2 to the satisfaction of the Italian legal system.[21]

On 21 May 1981, the Italian government released the list.[22]*The Parliamentary Commission of Inquiry headed by Tina Anselmi considered the list reliable and genuine. It decided to publish the list in its concluding report,*Relazione della Commissione parlamentare d’inchiesta sulla Loggia massonica P2.[23]
The list contains 962 names (including Gelli's). It has been claimed that at least a thousand names may still be secret, as the membership numbers begin with number 1,600, which suggests that the complete list has not yet been found.[7]

The list included all of the heads of the secret services,
195 officers of the different armed forces (12 generals of the*Carabinieri, 5 of the financial police*Guardia di Finanza, 22 of the army, 4 of the air force and 8 admirals), as well as 44 members of parliament, 3 ministers and a secretary of a political party, leading magistrates, a few prefects and heads of police, bankers and businessmen, civil servants, journalists and broadcasters.[7]*
Also included were a top official of the*Banca di Roma, Italy's third largest bank at the time, and a former director-general of the*Banca Nazionale del Lavoro*(BNL), the country's largest.[11]

Notable people on Gelli's list

Receipt for membership of Silvio Berlusconi to the P2 masonic lodge
Some notable individuals include:

Silvio Berlusconi, businessman, future founder of the*Forza Italia*political party and*Prime Minister of Italy.[24][25]

Michele Sindona, banker linked to the*Mafia.[26]

Roberto Calvi, so-called "banker of God", allegedly killed by the*Mafia.[26][27]

Umberto Ortolani, leading P2-member.[28]

Franco Di Bella, director of*Corriere della Sera.[14][25]*Di Bella had commissioned a long interview with Gelli, who openly talked of his plans for a "democratic renaissance" in Italy—including control over the media. The interview was carried out by the television talk show host*Maurizio Costanzo, who would also be exposed as a member of P2.[15]

Angelo Rizzoli Jr., owner of*Corriere della Sera, today cinema producer.[25]

Bruno Tassan Din, general director of*Corriere della Sera.[25]

General*Vito Miceli, chief of the*SIOS*(Servizio Informazioni), Italian Army Intelligence's Service from 1969 and*SID's head from October 18, 1970 to 1974. Arrested in 1975 on charges of "conspiracy against the state" concerning investigations about*Rosa dei venti, a state-infiltrated group involved in the*strategy of tension, he later became an*Italian Social Movement*(MSI) member.[29][30]

Federico Umberto D'Amato, leader of an intelligence cell (Ufficio affari riservati) in the Italian Minister of Interior.[31][32]

General*Giuseppe Santovito, head of the military intelligence service*SISMI(1978–1981).[11][29]

Admiral*Giovanni Torrisi, Chief of the General Staff of the Army.[11][29]General*Giulio Grassini, head of the intelligence service*SISDE*(1977–1981).[11][29]

General*Pietro Musumeci, deputy director of Italy's military intelligence service, SISMI.[29]General*Franco Picchiotti.[29]General*Giovambattista Palumbo.[29]

General*Raffaele Giudice, commander of the*Guardia di Finanza*(1974–1978).[29]*Appointed by Giulio Andreotti, Giudice conspired with oil magnate*Bruno Musselli*and others in a lucrative tax fraud of as much as $2.2 billion.[11][33]

General*Orazio Giannini, commander of the*Guardia di Finanza*(1980–1981).[29]*
On the day the list was discovered Giannini phoned the official in charge of the operation, and told him (according the official's testimony to the parliamentary commission):
"You better know that you've found some lists. I'm in those lists – be careful, because so too are all the highest echelons (I understood 'of the state') ... Watch out, the Force will be overwhelmed by this."[7]

Carmine Pecorelli, a controversial journalist assassinated on 20 March 1979. He had drawn connections in a May 1978 article between the*kidnapping of Aldo Moro*and*Operation Gladio.[34]

Maurizio Costanzo, popular television talk show host of*Mediaset programmes (Mediaset is*Berlusconi's commercial television network).
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Pietro Longo, secretary of the*Italian Democratic Socialist Party*(PSDI).[35]
Fabrizio Cicchitto, member of the*Italian Socialist Party, who later joined Berlusconi's centre-right party Forza Italia.[11]
Federico Carlos Barttfeld*(Argentina), ambassador to Yugoslavia from 1991 to 1995,[5]*under-secretary of state in*Néstor Kirchner's government, relieved of his functions in 2003 following allegations of involvement in the*Dirty War.[36]
Emilio Massera*(Argentina), a member of the military junta led by*Jorge Rafael Videla*in Buenos Aires from 1976 to 1978.[5][37]
José López Rega*(Argentina), Argentinian minister of Social Welfare inPerón's government, founder of the*Argentine Anticommunist Alliance("Triple A").[5]
Aldo Alasia, (Argentina)[38]
Cesar De la Vega, (Argentina)[39]
Raúl Alberto Lastiri, (Argentina) President from 13 July 1973 until 12 October 1973[37]
Alberto Vignes, (Argentina) minister of Argentina[37]
Carlos Alberto Corti, (Argentina) admiral from Argentina[37]
Stefano Delle Chiaie, Italian neofascist who had ties with*Operation Condor*and the Bolivian regime of*Luis García Meza Tejada[40]

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