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Abz2000
10-13-2015, 10:07 PM
That was a neat way to get your attention innit? :)
what was your first reaction?
anger? the urge to shout "blasphemy!"?
let's see:

Although the term Jew appears to have existed after Judah (ra) bin Ya'qub (pbuh) bin Ishaaq (pbuh) bin Ibrahim (pbuh)
we know for sure that it wasn't a lineage before Ibrahim (pbuh) since he was a semite (descendent of Shaam bin Nuh (pbuh))
and the Quran confirms this fact, however the Prophet pbuh although descending directly from Ibrahim through Ismail (pbut) and banu Kinanah from the father's side, comes from banu An Najjar on the Mother's side.
then we find that banu kinanah jewish filtered from Ibrahim pbuh.

i came across a name "Judah ibn Quraish" and got intrigued.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judah_ibn_Kuraish



Banu Quraysh
(Arabic:*بنو قريش‎)
Adnanite,*Ishmaelite
Nisba: Qurayshi (also spelled Qureshi)
Location: Mecca, Saudi Arabia
Descended from: An-Nadr ibn Kinanah

The tribe traditionally traces a genealogical history backwards from their eponymous ancestor Mudhar to*Adam,*Abraham*and*Ismael:

According to this tradition, Quraysh is Nadhr[2]*ibn ("son of") Kinanah ibn Khuzaimah ibn Mudrikah ibn Ilyas ibn Mudhar ibn*Nazar*ibn*Ma'ad*ibn*Adnanibn Add ibn Sind ibn*Qedar[3]*ibn*Ishmael[4][4][5]*ibn*Abraham[6]*ibn*Azar[7][8]*(Terah) ibn*Nahur[9]*ibn*Serug[10]*ibn*Reu[11]*ibn*Peleg[12]*ibn*Eber*ibn*Salah[13][14][15]*ibn*Arpachshad[16]*ibn*Shem*ibn*Noah*ibn*Lamech[17]*ibn*Methuselah*ibn*Idris(Enoch) ibn*Jared*ibn*Mahalalel*ibn*Kenan*ibn*Enos*ibn*Set h*ibn*Adam.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quraysh


Jewish tribes of Arabia

Some of the Jewish tribes of Arabia historically attested include:

Banu Aws
fled*Syria*under*Ghassanid*rule, then fled Yathrib (presently known as*Medina), and after expulsion by*Muhammed, back to Syria[unreliable source?]
Banu Harith*or*Banim Chorath
Banu Jusham [unreliable source?]
Banu Najjar [unreliable source?]
Banu Ghifar
Banu Qaynuqa
Banu Sa'ida
Banu Shutayba
Banu Yar'ak ba'si
Banu Kinanah
Jafna Clan of the*Banu Thal'aba*who were exiled members of the*Banu Ghassan*- while both tribes were not Jewish, they did have Jewish members; whereas the Jafna Clan was solely Jewish[3][4][6][unreliable source?]
Banu Zaura
Banu Zurayq
Banu Quda'a*—*Himyarite*tribe of converts to*Sadducee*Judaism
Banu Qurayza*— sub-clan of the*al-Kāhinān, located in Yathrib (Medina), "principal family" fled Syria under*Ghassanid*rule, then fled Medina, after expulsion by Muhammed, back to Syria
Banu Nadir*— sub-clan of the*al-Kāhinān, located in Yathrib (Medina)
Banu Juw*— sub-clan of the*Banu Qaynuqa, Fled to North Africa.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_tribes_of_Arabia

Banu Kinanah*(also*Bani Kinanah)
(Arabic:*بنو كنانة‎) (Arabic:*بني كنانة‎)
are the largest*Mudhari*Adnanite*tribe of western*Saudi Arabia*in*Hejaz*and*Tihama.

They are descended from*Kinanah, who was a grandson of Ilyas (known as Elijah in Jewish and Christian traditions).
Kinanah (or Kinana) was an ancestor of the Islamic prophet*Muhammad:
Abu Muhammad 'Abd al-Malik bin Hisham*wrote:
Muhammad was the son of 'Abdullah, b. 'Abdu'I-Muttalib (whose name was Shayba), b. Hashim (whose name was 'Amr), b. 'Abd Manaf (whose name was al-Mughira), b. Qusayy (whose name was Zayd), b. Kilab, b. Murra, b. Ka'b, b.*Lu'ay, b. Ghalib, b. Fihr, b. Malik, b. aI-Nadr, b.*Kinanah, b. Khuzayma, b. Mudrika (whose name was 'Amir), b. Ilyas, b.*Mudar, b. Nizar, b.*Ma'add, b. Adnan, b. Udd (or Udad),....b. Ya'rub, b. Yashjub, b. Nabit, b.*Ishmael, b. Ibrahim (Abraham), the friend of the Compassionate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Kinanah



The*Banū Aws*(Arabic:*بنو أوس‎**pronounced*[ˈbænuː ʔæws], "Sons of Aws") or simply*Aws*(Arabic:*أوس‎; also Romanized as*Aus) was one of the main Arab tribes*of*Medina. The other was*Khazraj, and the two, constituted the*Ansar*("helpers [of Muhammad]") after the*Hijra.
Aws and Khazraj were known as*Banū Qayla*(بنو قيلة**[ˈbænuː ˈqɑjlæ]) in pre-Islamic era.

About 300 A.D., during the emigration of Kahlān from*Yemen*prior to the Great Flood of Maʼrib Dam, Thaʻlaba bin ʻAmr, grand father of al-Aws, separated from his tribe and settled in*Yathrib(Medina), which was then controlled by Jewish clans, and Banū Qayla were subordinate to the Jews for some time, until Mālik bin ʻAjlān of Khazraj asserts independence of the Jews, so Aws and Khazraj obtained a share of palm-trees and strongholds. Thus, about 5th century, Banū Qayla took control of Yathrib and Jews retired into the background for about a century

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Aws

The fact that they were originally Yemeni and chose to settle amongst the Jews of Al Madinah indicates a bonding relationship. (birds of a similar feather).
It appears however that inferiority complexing separated them and somehow they descended to paganism, as had the Quraish.


Banu Najjar

The*Banu Najjar*were the maternal tribe of the*Prophet's grandfather*Abdul-Muttalib, they resided in*Madinah, and after the Prophet's emigration from*Makkah*he settled with them in Madinah, and it is at their settlement that the current*Mosque of the Prophetstands.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Najjar

(najjar means "carpenter").


Jurhum

Jurhum*(also*Banu Jurhum) was a Qahtani tribe in the*Arabian peninsula.
An old*Arab*tribe, their historical abode was*Yemen*before they emigrated to*Mecca.[1]

Kaaba

Main article:*Kaaba
According to*Arabic*accounts, the tribe of the Jurhum gave protection to*Hagarand her son*Ishmael, a relationship cemented with Ishmael's marriage to a Jurhumite woman, Rala bint Mudad ibn 'Amr ibn Jurhum.[2]*The Jurhum are said to have been involved in the worship centering around the*Kaaba, the holy sanctuary rebuilt by Ishmael and his father*Abraham*and revered as a pilgrimage site.[1]*According to one tradition, their custodianship over the Kaaba ended after they were ousted by the*Khuza'a, a tribal group from the south.[1]

Well of Zamzam

Main article:*Zamzam wellIslamic*tradition further holds that Hagar and Ishmael found a spring in Mecca, the*Zamzam well, from which the Jurhum wanted to drink, and that after their ousting by the Khuza'a tribe, the Jurhum collected the treasures dedicated to the Kaaba and destroyed the Zamzam well so that nobody would find it.

In other sources

The Jurhum are attested to in Greek literature. "Isma’il grew up among the Jurhum tribe, learning the pure Arabic tongue from them. When grown up he successively married two ladies from the Jurhum tribe, the second wife being the daughter of Mudad ibn ‘Amr, leader of the Jurhum tribe."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurhum



Qahtanite

Banu Qahtan
(Arabic:*بنو قحطان‎)
Qahtanite,*Children of Eber
Nisba: Qahtani, Qahtaniyyah
Location: The southern region*of the*Arabian Peninsula, eg.*Yemen.
Descended from Qahtan*or*Joktan*(the son of*Eber)Branches(See § Qahtani origins, below.)
Religion: Indigenous polytheistic beliefs,*Nestorian Christianity,*Judaism,*Zoroastrianism, later*Islam

The terms Qahtanite and Qahtani (Arabic:*قَحْطَانِي‎;*transliterated: Qahtani) refers to*Arabs*who originate from the*southern region*of the*Arabian Peninsula, especially from*Yemen.
According to Islamic tradition, the Qahtanis are pure Arabs, unlike the*Adnanites*who are "Arabized*Arabs", descended from*Adnan.
The Qahtani people are divided into the two sub-groups of*Himyar*(Himyartes) and*Kahlan*(Kahlanis).
In fact, modern historians believe that the distinction was created much later, during the*Umayyad period, to support the cause of different political factions.

Early Islamic historians identified Qahtan with the Yoqtan (Joktan) son of*Eber*of the*Hebrew Bible*(Gen. 10:25-29).
Among the sons of Qahtan are noteworthy figures like A'zaal (believed by Arabs to have been the original name of*Sana'a, although its current name has been attested since the*Iron Age) and*Hadhramaut.
Another son is*Ya'rub, and his son Yashjub is the father of*'Abd Shams (servant of the sun), who is also called Saba.
All Yemeni tribes trace their ancestry back to this "Saba", either through*Himyar*or*Kahlan, his two sons.



Sheba*
(/ˈʃiːbə/;*Ge'ez: ሳባ,*Saba,*Arabic: سبأ,*Sabaʾ,*South Arabian*,*Hebrew:שבא, Šəḇā) was a kingdom mentioned in the*Hebrew scriptures*(Old Testament) and the*Qur'an.
Sheba features in Ethiopian, Hebrew and Qur'anic traditions.
Among other things it was the home of the biblical "Queen of Sheba" (named*Makeda*in Ethiopian tradition and*Bilqīs*in Arabic tradition).

Modern archaeological studies support the view that the biblical kingdom of Sheba was the ancient*Semiticcivilization of*Saba*in Southern Arabia,*in*Yemen, between 1200 BC until 275 AD with its capital*Marib.
The Kingdom fell after a long but sporadic civil war between several Yemenite dynasties claiming kingship,*resulting in the rise of the late*Himyarite Kingdom.
Similar description in the*Hebrew Bible is found in*Strabo's*writings and Assyrian annals about the Sabaeans
Their civilization stretched as far as*Aqaba*with small colonies to protect the trade routes, these colonies included*Yathrib*and the central Arabian kingdom of*Kindah*and northern Ethiopia where archaeologists found an ancien temple dedicated to the Sabaean chief god*El-Maqah*The study of the history and culture of this kingdom is still patchy, especially the chronology of historical events and kings.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheba

We find in the Quran that the leadership if these people in yemen was reverted to monotheism at the hands of Sulaiman (pbuh) and a cordial relationship was established with the Jews.
bye bye racism.
But IT WAS THE JEWS! Although the racism and disdain of many appears to have caused a split and religious sects such as Sabians (saabi-een) and Rahmanism came into being in Yemen, they Also had a Christian phase (Abrahah of the elephant al fil)

when looking further, we find that sheba was also closely related to Qahtan

The*Sons of Eber*or Bnei Ever (בני-עבר) a synonym
for the earliest cultural Hebrews, are first mentioned in the*Hebrew Bible*in Genesis 10:21 (text). In orthodox circles the term is understood to refer to the wider family of Hebrew peoples from whom Abraham came. Each of the names of the children in question is understood to stand for the different Hebrew nations.
In Protestant & Reform circles*Hebrews*are defined as descending from Abraham and the identification of the Bnei Ever of Genesis 10:21 remains obscure except for the eighth generation around whose descendants the biblical narratives are mainly concerned. The first contemporary dynasties of Bnei Ever consists solely of*Joktan*&*Peleg*in whose time "the earth was divided" (Gen 10:25).
In the second generation there are thirteen children of Joktan --Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, Obal, Abimael, Sheba, Havilah, Jobab and Ophir are mentioned while only*Reu*is recorded as being from Peleg.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Eber


By the 3rd century BC,*Qataban,*Hadramout*and*Ma'in*became independent from Saba and established themselves in the Yemeni arena.*

After the Roman expedition – perhaps earlier – the country fell into chaos and two clans, namely*Hamdan*and*Himyar, claimed kingship, assuming the title*King of*Sheba*and*Dhu Raydan.

Esimiphaios*was a local Christian lord, mentioned in an inscription celebrating the burning of an ancient Sabaean palace in*Marib*to build a church on its ruins.*Three new churches were built in Najran alone.
Many tribes did not recognize Esimiphaios's authority.*Esimiphaios*was displaced in 531 by a warrior named*Abraha, who refused to leave Yemen and declared himself an independent king of*Himyar. Emperor*Justinian I*sent an embassy to Yemen. He wanted the officially*Christian*Himyarites*to use their influence on the tribes in inner Arabia to launch military operations against*Persia.
Justinian I bestowed the*dignity of king*upon the Arab*sheikhs*of*Kindah*and*Ghassan*in central and north Arabia.

From early on, Roman and Byzantine policy was to develop close links with the powers of the coast of the*Red Sea. They were successful in converting*Aksum*and influencing their culture. The results with regard to Yemen were rather disappointing.
A*Kendite*prince called*Yazid bin Kabshat*rebelled against*Abraha*and his Arab Christian allies. A truce was reached once*The Great Dam of Maribhad suffered a breach. Abraha*died around 555–565; no reliable sources regarding his death are available. The*Sasanid empire*annexed*Aden*around 570 AD. Under their rule, most of Yemen enjoyed great autonomy except for*Aden*and*Sana'a. This era marked the collapse of ancient South Arabian civilization, since the greater part of the country was under several independent clans until the arrival of*Islam*in 630 AD.

Mohammed*sent his cousin*Ali*to*Sana'a*and its surroundings around 630 AD. At the time, Yemen was the most advanced region in*Arabia.
The*Banu Hamdan*confederation were among the first to accept*Islam.*
Mohammed*sent*Muadh ibn Jabal*as well to Al-Janad in present day*Taiz, and dispatched letters to various tribal leaders. The reason behind this was the division among the tribes and the absence of a strong central authority in Yemen during the days of the prophet.

Major tribes, including*Himyar, sent delegations to*Medina*during the*Year of delegationsaround 630–631 AD.

Several Yemenis accepted*Islam*before the year 630, such as*Ammar ibn Yasir,*Al-Ala'a Al-Hadrami,*Miqdad ibn Aswad,*Abu Musa Ashaari*and*Sharhabeel ibn Hasana. A man named*'Abhala ibn Ka'ab Al-Ansiexpelled the remaining Persians and claimed to be a*prophet*of*Rahman. He was assassinated by a Yemeni of*Persian*origin called*Fayruz al-Daylami. Christians, who were mainly staying in*Najran*along with*Jews, agreed to pay*Jizya, although some Jews converted to Islam, such as*Wahb ibn Munabbih*and*Ka'ab al-Ahbar.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Yemen



Yemen holds close to their religion, which for the most part is Islamic.
There is less than 1 percent of Yemen that follows other religions.
When Israel became an independent state in 1948, most of the Yemeni Jews moved to Israel, leaving the rest of the country to practice Islam together.
There are a few small Christian and Hindu groups in South Yemen and are considered the largest non Muslim group in the country.

http://www.yemen.com/religion-in-yemen/



Now i've got an idea of why the Emperor of Rome may have been so curious as to invite Abu Sufyan to his court in order to respectfully question him about the man from Quraish, he must have had access to the logs of the fil incident since it was part of a wider Roman operation.
i always wondered what had prevented the huge Roman war machine from attacking the Prophet pbuh's tiny state in Madinah which was making bold moves in Byzantine territory. Ceasar apparently prevented his subordinate the Ghassani from attacking too.

Allahu Akbar.
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