Originally Posted by AhmedGassama
Apologies for the unintended confusion brother, i sincerely believe sister insaanah would have a valid reason.
It's way past fajr now and i need to get some sleep, gonna end on a humourous note that ought to be quite reflective:
Still reading so i'll post some of it:
In the following, notice the ahadithon mainly duff, the way the different scholars worked them, some tempered and some strange, and also notice the tendency to restrict based on the perception of it being inherently evil, also bear in mind the strategy of shaytaan in keeping people pre-occupied with the banal in place of the more weighty deeds, that way the dissonance caused in the minds when they notice that that the Prophet pbuh is recorded as having listened, yet mentioned Shaytaan when Umar (ra) came in, can be correctly rectified.
You'll also note that the men whose honour was in knighthood and bravery in Allah's way were far from singing and clinging tambourines, though poetry had it's pros, cons and debates too, and since girls were the only ones left as singers, it was most likely shunned anyway, only the transexuals were left holding the tools of the trade, bear in mind that it was always live and no recording devices, studios or headphones were involved.
The list below is a collection of ahadith from one whose very harsh bias is totally against musical instruments and singing and you'll notice from some of the overlapping yet very different "gospel according to" phenomena an indication of the polarity of the narrators - all or most in this list are "against song and
Ultimately you'll only be of one opinion when it has been debated anew and in detail based on all the information collected and understood together - once you've accepted a single and trustworthy Muslim authority and submitted the case to it.
And Allah knows best.
Now consider the understanding on poetry ( the whole chapter -number 26- is named afrer them yet trashes poets, but then we understand, a certain type):
Poetry was probably more powerful than modern day rap when it came to propaganda and "dissing".
210.*No evil ones have brought down this (Revelation):
211.*It would neither suit them nor would they be able (to produce it).
212.*Indeed they have been removed far from even (a chance of) hearing it.
213.*So call not on any other god with Allah, or thou wilt be among those under the Penalty.
214.*And admonish thy nearest kinsmen,
215.*And lower thy wing to the Believers who follow thee.
216.*Then if they disobey thee, say: "I am free (of responsibility) for what ye do!"
217.*And put thy trust on the Exalted in Might, the Merciful,
218.*Who seeth thee standing forth (in prayer),
219.*And thy movements among those who prostrate themselves,
220.*For it is He Who heareth and knoweth all things.
221.*Shall I inform you, (O people!), on whom it is that the evil ones descend?
222.*They descend on every lying, wicked person,
223.*(Into whose ears) they pour hearsay vanities, and most of them are liars.
224.*And the Poets,- It is those straying in Evil, who follow them:
225.*Seest thou not that they wander distracted in every valley?
226.*And that they say what they practise not?
227.*Except those who believe, work righteousness, engage much in the remembrance of Allah, and defend themselves only after they are unjustly attacked. And soon will the unjust assailants know what vicissitudes their affairs will take!