Are there any kuffaar who love the Muslims and wish them well?

[abo mussaab]

There are those who claim that the disbelievers love the Muslims and wish the good for them. They may even justify this by realistic relationships with some of them and that they did not see but every good from them (which is known). I hope you can rectify this misunderstanding. Also are their scholars different to the masses in this matter?

Praise be to Allaah.
Allaah has stated in His Book that the kuffaar bear enmity towards us and they would not spare any effort to cause us harm, and they wish us ill, and they will not be pleased until we follow their way.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitaanah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand.
Lo! You are the ones who love them but they love you not, and you believe in all the Scriptures [i.e. you believe in the Tawraat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel), while they disbelieve in your Book, the Qur’aan]. And when they meet you, they say, ‘We believe.’ But when they are alone, they bite the tips of their fingers at you in rage. Say: ‘Perish in your rage. Certainly, Allaah knows what is in the breasts (all the secrets).’
If a good befalls you, it grieves them, but if some evil overtakes you, they rejoice at it. But if you remain patient and become al-Muttaqoon (the pious — See V.2:2), not the least harm will their cunning do to you. Surely, Allaah surrounds all that they do”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:118-120]

“Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you (O Muhammad peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) till you follow their religion. Say: ‘Verily, the Guidance of Allaah (i.e. Islaamic Monotheism) that is the (only) Guidance.’ And if you (O Muhammad peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) were to follow their (Jews and Christians) desires after what you have received of Knowledge (i.e. the Qur’aan), then you would have against Allaah neither any Walee (protector or guardian) nor any helper”

[al-Baqarah 2:120]
Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“The words of Allaah, ‘Take not as (your) Bitaanah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends) those outside your religion’ mean people other than you, the followers of other religions. A man’s bitaanah (advisors, friends, etc) are his closest friends who know about his private affairs. Then he narrated the report of Ibn Abee Haatim with his isnaad from Ibn Abi’l-Dahqaanah, who said: It was said to ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him): ‘There is a slave from the people of Heerah who is literate; why don’t you employ him as a scribe?’ He said: ‘Then I would have taken a bitaanah from people other than the believers.’”

Ibn Katheer said:

“This report, along with this verse, indicates that it is not permissible to employ ahl al-dhimmah as scribes in a position of authority over the Muslims where they can become acquainted with their private affairs, where there is the fear that they may disclose them to enemies among ahl al-harb. Hence Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely’.”

From Tafseer Ibn Katheer (1/528)
Al-Qurtubee (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, forbids the believers in this verse to take close friends from among the Jews, Christians and followers of whims and desires, and to consult them and delegate their affairs to them. … Then Allaah explains the reason why He forbids being close to them, which is: ‘since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you’, i.e., they will not stop striving to corrupt you. In other words, even if they do not fight you openly, they will not stop plotting and planning.”

Then he said:

“The words of Allaah, ‘Lo! You are the ones who love them’ mean the hypocrites, as is indicated by the words ‘And when they meet you, they say, ‘We believe’’. This was stated by Abu’l-‘Aaliyah and Muqaatil. Love here refers to good will, i.e. you, O Muslims, have good will towards them but they do not have good will towards you because of their hypocrisy. And it was said that what is meant is: you want them to become Muslim and they want you to become kaafirs. And it was said that those referred to here are the Jews, and this was the view of the majority.

The word Scriptures here is generic. Ibn ‘Abbaas said: What is meant is Scriptures, and the Jews believe in some of them, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And when it is said to them (the Jews), ‘Believe in what Allaah has sent down,’ they say, ‘We believe in what was sent down to us.’ And they disbelieve in that which came after it”’ [al-Baqarah 2:91].

‘And when they meet you, they say, ‘We believe’’ i.e., in Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and that he is the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). But when they are alone amongst themselves they bite the tips of their fingers at you in rage and say to one another: Do you not see how these people are prevailing and increasing in number?”

End quote from Tafseer al-Qurtubee (4/177)
At-Tabaaree (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“What is meant by the words ‘Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you (O Muhammad peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) till you follow their religion’ is: Neither the Jews nor the Christians will ever be pleased with you, O Muhammad, so stop trying to please them and seek the pleasure of your Lord by calling them to that with which Allaah has sent you of the truth.“

End quote from Tafseer at-Tabaaree (1/565)
Our Lord, may He be glorified and exalted, states that many of the people of the Book wish that we would embrace kufr, out of envy and hatred.

He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Many of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) wish that if they could turn you away as disbelievers after you have believed, out of envy from their own selves, even after the truth (that Muhammad peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him is Allaah’s Messenger) has become manifest unto them. But forgive and overlook, till Allaah brings His Command. Verily, Allaah is Able to do all things”

[al-Baqarah 2:109].
Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said [in his Tafseer]:

“Allaah warns His believing slaves against following the path of the kuffaar of the people of the Book, and tells them of their enmity towards them, both inward and outward, and the envy that they feel towards the believers, even though they are aware of their virtue and the virtue of their Prophet.”

Allaah says concerning the people of kufr (interpretation of the meaning):

“How (can there be such a covenant with them) that when you are overpowered by them, they regard not the ties, either of kinship or of covenant with you? With (good words from) their mouths they please you, but their hearts are averse to you, and most of them are Faasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allaah)”

[al-Tawbah 9:8]
This is how they are; they please the Muslims with their words, but their hearts are filled with enmity and evil.
To sum up, even if there are some kuffaar who seem to love the believers, one of the following three scenarios must apply:

1. It is just artificial and outward show with no basis in reality, as our Lord, may He be glorified and exalted, tells us, and He knows best what their intentions are and what is in their hearts.
2. It happens with the one who has abandoned Islaam and has taken the kuffaar as close friends, and has thus become one of them, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And if any amongst you takes them (as Awliyaa’), then surely, he is one of them” [al-Maa'idah 5:51]. Hence they are pleased with him and love him.
3. It may be genuine but this is very rare, and what is rare does not prove anything. It may be due to the kaafir not adhering to his religion or because of his not caring about religion, as is the case with many of them nowadays.

What every Muslim must do is beware – as Allaah has warned him – of taking the kaafirs as close friends and confidantes and feeling at ease with them, whether the kaafir appears to be friendly or hostile, and whether he is sincere in his love or not. This is the established rule concerning which there can be no debate.
And Allaah knows best. (…)

[T L]

Salaam
Interesting post. I think this is very negative. We are a religion of peace. We are all human and share the same origin. We make our beliefs clear to them (Al-kafirun) and we keep the differences at arms length. However, see it this way, if a non-believer were to see this post, what would they feel? If any of my non-muslim friends were to read this, what would they think of me? We are not each others enemies, we co-exist. If they do not get in the way of our duties as muslims, then what harm are they? They are people, just like us, on their own journey, dealing with their own trials in life, we all have commonalities, we will all experience death. Pull them towards islam, not push them away. In even God's most strictest words, there is pure wisdom and beauty. Show mercy upon others, and God will shower His mercy on you too. From my understanding there are extremes in all types of people, and a firm believer will know when to be cautious naturally.

Jazak'Allah Khair for reading.

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:bism:

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The above scholarly article is taken from the site IslamQA, which I guessed is a salafi site, and background research into the site proved my original hypothesis correct. Thus, I'm not surprised at all by the harshness and negative tones underlying the words written here. Alhamdhullilah (thanks, praise, and credit to God), the shuyukh (Islamic teachers) (may Allah bless them) whom I follow and from whom I feel privileged to learn my Islam do not have this kind of negative attitude towards non-Muslims.

I'm not saying that some or even many non-Muslims do not fit the description put forth in the article, but I am wary of the fear-mongering.

Therefore, just a word to the wise: Grain of salt!

:wa:

[czgibson]

Greetings,

Divisive and hateful utterances like those shared in the first post contribute hugely to the present strife between certain Muslims and the rest of the world. The sooner people stop subscribing to such ignorant and bigoted beliefs, the better off we'll all be as a species.

Peace

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[M.I.A.]

Greetings,

Divisive and hateful utterances like those shared in the first post contribute hugely to the present strife between certain Muslims and the rest of the world. The sooner people stop subscribing to such ignorant and bigoted beliefs, the better off we'll all be as a species.

Peace

they really dont, its the context that they are used in that can be misinterpreted.

my misinterpretation without context goes something along the lines of supporting a football team.

the opposition within its defined limits will do most things to not see you at your best, never mind the supporters.

unfortunately it was not written in a footballing context.


to be fair good will and glad tidings are hard to find and sometimes hard to give.

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:bism:

Hi czgibzon!

Yes, I agree with you, well, at least the overall point of subscribing to the negative view of non-Muslims.

Btw, I do read the comments' section of most mainstream news sites online, and yes, while I do not turn a blind eye to the hateful utterances from many non-Muslims against Muslims, I do not take those types of comments as representative of the entire non-Muslim populace and this scholarship seems to suggest that is the case with almost all non-Muslims. Thus forms the basis of my problem with this scholarly article: It is assumptive and divisive and prone to negative exaggeration and interpretation of non-Muslims' actions.

I'd say definitely say some scholars are hard-liners and harsh, and I'm not sure what gives? I'd say this is the kind of rhetoric that lends itself to arbitrary and artificial narrative about how non-Muslims are against Muslims. IHMO, not helpful.

Greetings,

Divisive and hateful utterances like those shared in the first post contribute hugely to the present strife between certain Muslims and the rest of the world. The sooner people stop subscribing to such ignorant and bigoted beliefs, the better off we'll all be as a species.

Peace

[syed_z]

Asalaam O Alaikum to my Muslim and Non Muslim brothers and sisters...I'm glad to hear the sisters posting against this kind of Mindset. May Allah (swt) reward you sisters and brothers.


Unfortunately it is this mind set that is destroying us, the message in the original post is the misguidance which has led many astray in this Ummah, especially among the youth. In their ignorance they join groups like ISIS/Daesh and commit crimes thinking them to be Halaal (Illegal). The original post is the typical mindset of those ignorant people who commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam in the Muslim and Non Muslim world.

This literalist mindset that interprets the Verses of Quran in a literal sense and without understanding the subject as a whole, unfortunately pervades the Ummah today. May Allah (swt) save us from this mess!


There is a difference between a Kafir and a Non Muslim. There is a clear cut rule by which Allah (Swt) differentiates between a Kafir and a Non Muslim:

Surah Al Anaam.

6:131And so it is that thy Sustainer would never destroy a community for its wrongdoing so long asits people are still unaware [of the meaning of right and wrong]: (6:132) for all shall be judged according to their [conscious] deeds - and thy Sustainer is not unaware of what they do.(6:133) And thy Sustainer alone is self-sufficient, limitless in His grace.

(Assad Translation)

....If I or you wouldn't punish someone without warning, and even the law doesn't punish anyone without warning, then isn't Allah (swt) better than us?

Sheikh Irshad Soofi of South Africa explains in his Book on Madinah to Karbala Volume 1:


"We should not condemn people to hell because of our egoistic, selfcantered views. Some people condemn those who have never been given the true message of Islam to the fire. Even ibn Urafa (R.A) , one of our great scholars said that there are people on the earth who are:

kaafiru hukman la ma’nan

They are kaafir by ruling but not in meaning

This is what we would call in English, ‘a non-Muslim’. A ‘non-Muslim’ is different from a ‘disbeliever’ or kaafir. A kaafir is one who conceals the truth although he knows it to be the truth. Why this difference? Because ‘a non-Muslim’ have never heard a message; to reject or accept! Why would Allah  take somebody into account who was never presented a message? Allah  would only take a person to account if that person was exposed to the truth. Allah is just. Allah  says:

Don’t set up idols with God, once you know

The Ulama say even an idolater will not be thrown into the fire if they did not receive a ‘true’ message, from an embodiment of the truth. Remember the ‘disbelievers’ of Makkah received the message from the Holy Prophet Muhammad  whom they had called ‘the truthful’ (assaadiq) and ‘the honest’ (al-ameen).

Who is a Kaafir

The very word Kaafir ﻛﺎﻓﺮ, is the active participle of the root ﻙ ﻑ ﺭ "to cover". As a pre-Islamic term it described farmers burying seeds in the ground, covering them with soil while planting. The Holy Qur'aan says in the 57th Sura al-Hadid (Iron) Verse 20

أَعۡجَبَ ٱلۡكُفَّارَ نَبَاتُهُ ۥ
delight (the hearts of) the tillers

Thus, the word kaafir implies the meaning ‘a person who hides or covers’. Thus a kaafir in the Islamic Theological sense is the one who ‘hides or covers the truth of Islam knowingly’. All of the hadith indicating the people before Islam are in the fire relate to those who introduced these ideas like Amr ibn Luhayy the first to bring idols into Makkah. Reflect on what is being said and recognize the absolute need for sound knowledge based on the majority of our scholars. The modern age is in disarray


The original poster below took all the Verses belonging to those 'who knowingly reject and hide the truth, are enemies of Islam and Muslims' and applied to entire non Muslim world! ...without giving a second thought, being pulled like cattle to wherever their misguided religious leaders take them :(


Surah Al Araaf

(7:179)......They have hearts with which they do not understand, they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear. Those are like cattle; rather, they are more astray. It is they who are the heedless.

[syed_z]

And A point to note. Who amongst the Non Muslims dies as a Kafir/Disbeliever or Non Muslim is also something a Muslim cannot and has no right to judge. Because the matter of the hearts is only known by Al Mighty God Himself.

[جوري]

To stop subscribing is to stop being Muslim and risk extinction like the aborigines of America and Australia and everywhere your ilk pillages and rapes - I don't recall Afghanistan or Iraq et al. Invading you quite the contrary you came spreading your brand of love via drones and uprooted an entire community and planted the colonial settler state in our midst then have the temerity to preach what's divisive and hateful?
Theres only two camps since the dawn of time and the third are hypocrites plain and simple!
every time I return to this forum I find it more disgusting than how I left it!